kkins25:


Imagine saying "Nigerians are too tribalistic" for them to govern themselves as an idiotic statement when the reality is that the statement is true.

Exactly you get.

hmmmm..
what about the "Genocide?"

What "Genocide?"

AmazonTopaz:

The University student protesters are infact the KKK.

There is nothing peaceful when protesting to cause inconvenience to people and destroying property. He was right.

Also the article wasn't a lie at the time he wrote it the Palestinians rejected another two state solution deal. If October 7th didn't convince you that Shapiro was right I don't know what will. They attacked Israel first and are indeed too "battle minded" for peace. Shapiro didn't lie.

Thank God that Walz is no different on this issue. So a lose-lose situation for leftists.
Any young Dem who is Pro-Palestine over Israel needs to read a damn book and get of TikTok induced Islamic propaganda.

These are some of the brightest minds in the US. Harvard, Columbia, Penn, MIT and Yale students. And you are arguing that they are stupid to understand what is going on in the Middle East and that they get their opinions from TikTok?
C'mon. Be realistic.

That they are some of the smartest minds is in fact why they are protesting. Our policy vis a vis Israel makes little sense.

In the end na Israel still gain am.

Leftists will soon start revolting.

AmazonTopaz:
In the end na Israel still gain am.

Leftists will soon start revolting.

Can I ask a question. Why are you so focused on Israel?
Israel is not part of the US.

IjeBos:


These are some of the brightest minds in the US. Harvard, Columbia, Penn, MIT and Yale students. And you are arguing that they are stupid to understand what is going on in the Middle East and that they get their opinions from TikTok?
C'mon. Be realistic.

That they are some of the smartest minds is in fact why they are protesting. Our policy vis a vis Israel makes little sense.

But they are equally people from the same class, who oppose what you're saying, so? What's that fallacy called again?

basilico:


Kamala Harris is Astroturfing
There. You learned a new word.

LoLz! If I was to learn a new word it won't be from you.

IjeBos:


These are some of the brightest minds in the US. Harvard, Columbia, Penn, MIT and Yale students. And you are arguing that they are stupid to understand what is going on in the Middle East and that they get their opinions from TikTok?
C'mon. Be realistic.

That they are some of the smartest minds is in fact why they are protesting. Our policy vis a vis Israel makes little sense.

They do. Even dummy Ben Shapiro took one of these students to the cleaners they get their information from TikTok. No brilliant mind will justify October 7th and carry water for terrorists. I see some of these students talk even me that didn't go to an Ivy league school is way more intelligent than they are and that is me being realistic. Are you not aware that Qatar and some Arab states donate millions to these Universities and that is in part why their students are teachers are sympathetic to these people? There is an investigation that some of these protests were orchestrated by these people so let's wait for the complete report. Those students are useful idiots who do not read.


U.S. policy with Israel makes complete sense they are both Democratic allies what U.S. policy are you expecting to be in alliance with Islamic theocrats who are anti-Democracy and liberty and will kill LGBTQ people and hamper women's rights while believing that killing people will grant them 72 virgins. This is a no brainer.

AmazonTopaz:
Exactly you get.


What "Genocide?"

The one I seeonly TikTok and Aljazeera.. hahaha...

LordReed:


LoLz! If I was to learn a new word it won't be from you.

My head hurts from laughing
I have a feeling basilico loco is a 67 year old boomer, jobless with his computer in the basement.

Really, I can't wrap my head around that, like he invented that word and so excited to let you in on a new thing?

That man must be too old

IjeBos:


Can I ask a question. Why are you so focused on Israel?
Israel is not part of the US.

I am focused on Israel because that is why leftists refused to support Biden and opposed Shapiro for being Jewish and only posted this because Walz is also pro-Israel
Two, I am focused on Israel because if Iran and Russia get their way against Israel and weaken the United States it is bye bye to Democracy and I do not want a world where China, Russia and Iran are calling the shots.
I want a Western allied Democracy and Israel and Ukraine's continued existence remains fundamental to achieving that.

AmazonTopaz:

They do. Even dummy Ben Shapiro took one of these students to the cleaners they get their information from TikTok. No brilliant mind will justify October 7th and carry water for terrorists. I see some of these students talk even me that didn't go to an Ivy league school is way more intelligent than they are and that is me being realistic. Are you not aware that Qatar and some Arab states donate millions to these Universities and that is in part why their students are teachers are sympathetic to these people? There is an investigation that some of these protests were orchestrated by these people so let's wait for the complete report. Those students are useful idiots who do not read.


U.S. policy with Israel makes complete sense they are both Democratic allies what U.S. policy are you expecting to be in alliance with Islamic theocrats who are anti-Democracy and liberty and will kill LGBTQ people and hamper women's rights while believing that killing people will grant them 72 virgins. This is a no brainer.

I am on Team Red; and even I know this is not about Israel as an entity or the US-Israel special relationship.
This is about the brutal war Netanyahu has waged.
The fatality count is too high. It has to stop.
15 young men were killed in the last 24 hours in West Bank. West Bank had nothing to do with Oct. 7.

That is the issue.
Young people do not need to read a history book to know that Israel has killed more children in the last 10 months of this war than all conflicts combined in the last 2 years.
If you can live with that, that's fine. But do not expect everyone to countenance this barbarity.

-Lord

AmazonTopaz:

They do. Even dummy Ben Shapiro took one of these students to the cleaners they get their information from TikTok. No brilliant mind will justify October 7th and carry water for terrorists. I see some of these students talk even me that didn't go to an Ivy league school is way more intelligent than they are and that is me being realistic. Are you not aware that Qatar and some Arab states donate millions to these Universities and that is in part why their students are teachers are sympathetic to these people? There is an investigation that some of these protests were orchestrated by these people so let's wait for the complete report. Those students are useful idiots who do not read.


U.S. policy with Israel makes complete sense they are both Democratic allies what U.S. policy are you expecting to be in alliance with Islamic theocrats who are anti-Democracy and liberty and will kill LGBTQ people and hamper women's rights while believing that killing people will grant them 72 virgins. This is a no brainer.

I went to one of those schools. And, we had too many resources and too much discussion to be ill informed by choice. You're talking about students who had to get close to perfect scores on the SAT's (which test reasoning) and then 3.8 to 4.2's in school. Sorry, they are not getting their information on tik tok.

You are over generalizing way too much here.

If you think the money that is donated to these schools from Middle East countries is something you are mistaken. It is a drop in the bucket of pledged endowment money by very wealthy people including Jewish people. Look at the endowment figures.

In fact you should step foot on some of these campuses, read the names of the buildings and then visit their Hillel center and you'll understand how crazy what you are saying sounds.

This is simply about what people can see with their own eyes and it makes matters worse that these students do have the knowledge to understand the disparate treatment that has been going on. Even with the "peace plan" you say the Palestinians wouldn't accept. A "peace plan" if the position were reversed Israel wouldn't accept.

AmazonTopaz:

I am focused on Israel because that is why leftists refused to support Biden and opposed Shapiro for being Jewish and only posted this because Walz is also pro-Israel
Two, I am focused on Israel because if Iran and Russia get their way against Israel and weaken the United States it is bye bye to Democracy and I do not want a world where China, Russia and Iran are calling the shots.
I want a Western allied Democracy and Israel and Ukraine's continued existence remains fundamental to achieving that.

The Vp will have little say in this policy area.

And actually Israel is weakening the US right now. It is making our support of Ukraine hypocritical. It is also dividing supplies and armaments we could be giving Ukraine. It is driving our countries like IRan and Russia closer together. It is also costing us tons of money (how much do you think it costs to send troops to shoot down missiles because Israel had to assassinate someone in a sovereign country)? How much money do you think it will cost us to bribe all those Middle Eastern countries to help us shoot down those missiles?

The US understands that part of war and having power is a hearts and minds campaign. Israel seems not to care. And we are getting equated with that. And that in the long run makes us weaker. Terrorists aren't born but created. That's why the US tries so hard to "project"(whether it's true or not) a global image of justice.

kkins25:


But they are equally people from the same class, who oppose what you're saying, so? What's that fallacy called again?

Huh?

AmazonTopaz:

They do. Even dummy Ben Shapiro took one of these students to the cleaners they get their information from TikTok. No brilliant mind will justify October 7th and carry water for terrorists.

Opposing Israel's response against Palestine is not "carrying water for terrorists". It is opposing Israel's genocide, especially when Israel's treatment prior to October 7 is considered.

And no, I don't do tiktok.

LordAdam16:


I am on Team Red; and even I know this is not about Israel as an entity or the US-Israel special relationship.
This is about the brutal war Netanyahu has waged.
The fatality count is too high. It has to stop.
15 young men were killed in the last 24 hours in West Bank. West Bank had nothing to do with Oct. 7.

That is the issue.
Young people do not need to read a history book to know that Israel has killed more children in the last 10 months of this war than all conflicts combined in the last 2 years.
If you can live with that, that's fine. But do not expect everyone to countenance this barbarity.

-Lord

This is about the first post of yours I can quote without deleting your -Lord.

I am team blue.

Walz will get positive reviews easily, republicans will be punching in the air again.

AmazonTopaz:

Nope the attack against Shapiro was because he is Jewish.

Walz, Kelly and Beshear all share the same view on Israel as does Shapiro. I argue that Shapiro is even moderate because he called out Netanyahu and supports a two state solution.

Walz took photos with Netanyahu, told the Pro-Palestine protesters to get lost in Minnesota, Kelly clapped and attended Bibi's address to Congress. Beshear is Pro-Israel.

If those people truly cared about their cause they will oppose all four of them but you know what they are only targeting the Jew. It was never about Palestine but antisemitism. I am terminally online sometimes I read between the words in their opposition to Shapiro it was antisemitism.

I really don't see it as antisemitism meanwhile lots of senior Democrats in Pennsylvania are backing Walz so there's nothing much to worry about

IjeBos:


If it is Walz, 2 thoughts on the pick.
1.) Shapiro is still young, doesn't want him to try to upstage her. Same route George Bush II went with Dark Vader ummm Shoot him in the face err Dick Cheney.

2.) They polled his past Muslim comments and they didn't like what they found.

Identity politics. Shapiro is Jewish. Kamala needs the votes of those who chant " Death to o America, death to America".
Especially in Dearborn.
Shapiro at 20 years old wrote an op-ed where he clearly stated that the Palestinians will never love the Jews.. I have the receipts don't dare me on that. Had he asked for my opinion then , I woulda told him him the hatred starts from the madrassa, mosques..From the cradle to the grave.

sanpipita:


I really don't see it as antisemitism meanwhile lots of senior Democrats in Pennsylvania are backing Walz so there's nothing much to worry about

I am talking about the left's attack on him.

If you are active on Twitter you will see it.

budaatum:


Opposing Israel's response against Palestine is not "carrying water for terrorists". It is opposing Israel's genocide, especially when Israel's treatment prior to October 7 is considered.

And no, I don't do tiktok.

Chanting "From the River to the sea" is carrying water for terrorists who say that their goal is to annihilate the Israeli state.

Chanting that the Jews are evil is carrying water for terrorists.

Defending October 7th as justified or calling it a hoax is carrying water for terrorists

Chanting a third intifida is carrying water for terrorists.

Justifying October 7th is carrying water for terrorists.

All these things I mentioned were what we all saw during the protest.

It is not a genocide because unfortunately thousands of people are dying.

There is no proof of Israel having the intent to erase Palestinians because of their religion and race. They didn't start the war, they have never started a war. I know what a genocide is this war is not one of them.
If it were a genocide plot the Palestinian population would not be growing every year.

IjeBos:


The Vp will have little say in this policy area.

And actually Israel is weakening the US right now. It is making our support of Ukraine hypocritical. It is also dividing supplies and armaments we could be giving Ukraine. It is driving our countries like IRan and Russia closer together. It is also costing us tons of money (how much do you think it costs to send troops to shoot down missiles because Israel had to assassinate someone in a sovereign country)? How much money do you think it will cost us to bribe all those Middle Eastern countries to help us shoot down those missiles?

The US understands that part of war and having power is a hearts and minds campaign. Israel seems not to care. And we are getting equated with that. And that in the long run makes us weaker. Terrorists aren't born but created. That's why the US tries so hard to "project"(whether it's true or not) a global image of justice.

That is why Netanyahu must go.
In as much as the VP does not drive policy unless you are Dick Cheney there is no proof or reason to believe that Kamala Harris will be any different from Biden on those issues.


I am not worried about the money. It is the price you pay for being a world leader there is no power without money.

LordAdam16:


I am on Team Red; and even I know this is not about Israel as an entity or the US-Israel special relationship.
This is about the brutal war Netanyahu has waged.
The fatality count is too high. It has to stop.
15 young men were killed in the last 24 hours in West Bank. West Bank had nothing to do with Oct. 7.

That is the issue.
Young people do not need to read a history book to know that Israel has killed more children in the last 10 months of this war than all conflicts combined in the last 2 years.
If you can live with that, that's fine. But do not expect everyone to countenance this barbarity.

-Lord

I agree that Netanyahu doesn't want this war to end either way with Hamas in power the blood shed will always continue unfortunately.

They need to read a book to know that the Hamas controlled ministry of Health in Gaza inflates fatality counts and any info they give you must be very scrutinized.

It is in Gaza that we get to know that only women and children are dying from this war and not the terrorists. They conflate everything together to deceive folks like you. They have never released death toll of Hamas fighters yet we know that they are thousands of them, give me a fvcking break.
Only women and children cannot be dying in Gaza.

AmazonTopaz:

Chanting "From the River to the sea" is carrying water for terrorists who say that their goal is to annihilate the Israeli state.

Perhaps you should stop listening to tiktok chants and go read why intelligent people oppose what Israel is doing in Palestine.

I don't want to "annihilate the Israeli state". I just don't want the genocidal annihilation of Palestinians by Israel.

AmazonTopaz:

There is no proof of Israel having the intent to erase Palestinians because of their religion and race.

Really? So, chasing Palestinians off their land so it can be occupied by newly arrived Israelis is not sufficient proof for you or do you just not believe what you can find with google?

Please AmazonTopaz. I know you are far more intelligent than basilico.

IjeBos:


I went to one of those schools. And, we had too many resources and too much discussion to be ill informed by choice. You're talking about students who had to get close to perfect scores on the SAT's (which test reasoning) and then 3.8 to 4.2's in school. Sorry, they are not getting their information on tik tok.

You are over generalizing way too much here.

If you think the money that is donated to these schools from Middle East countries is something you are mistaken. It is a drop in the bucket of pledged endowment money by very wealthy people including Jewish people. Look at the endowment figures.

In fact you should step foot on some of these campuses, read the names of the buildings and then visit their Hillel center and you'll understand how crazy what you are saying sounds.

This is simply about what people can see with their own eyes and it makes matters worse that these students do have the knowledge to understand the disparate treatment that has been going on. Even with the "peace plan" you say the Palestinians wouldn't accept. A "peace plan" if the position were reversed Israel wouldn't accept

@bold, Israel literally compromised to give East Jerusalem under Ehud Barak that was a big compromise. Israel has mostly agreed to every peace plan that I know of the PLO under Arafat rejected every deal. Every of them, that is not a people that want peace they don't want Israel to exist and unless they embrace peace this unfortunate war will continue that is why Shapiro was right in that 1993 article.

Also, I stand by what I said those students I see on TV defending Hamas or being pro-Palestine are dumb and ill informed or those schools are not sending their best. They are getting their information on TikTok and SAT scores are not the only measure for intelligence. Ted Cruz, Hawley, Alito and Thomas even dumbo Kavanaugh went to those schools.

budaatum:


Really? So, chasing Palestinians off their land so it can be occupied by newly arrived Israelis is not sufficient proof for you or do you just not believe what you can find with google?

Please AmazonTopaz. I know you are far more intelligent than basilico.

It was never their land.

IT WAS NEVER THEIR LAND

They were not a sovereign state but under the occupied Ottoman Empire before then the Caliphs, Byzantines, Romans etc.

There is a reason why they were called Arabs living in Palestine before adopting the Palestinian name in the 1970s to 80s to add more credence to their state hood claims.

There was never a time in history were Palestinians self-governed Palestine which had Jews and Christians living on it.
They were not chased, they declared war in 1948 and lost and in war when you lose you flee.

AmazonTopaz:

They conflate everything together to deceive folks like you.

Ahh. I get you now.

You ignore whatever Palestinians say by convincing yourself it is conflated, and those of us who don't think like you do are deceived.

The next step from the above is, we are ignorant. I'm sure you've heard that too after they say you are deceived that the Jan6 sightseers were tourists and the trouble makers were the FBI.

budaatum:


Perhaps you should stop listening to tiktok chants and go read why intelligent people oppose what Israel is doing in Palestine.

I don't want to "annihilate the Israeli state". I just don't want the genocidal annihilation of Palestinians by Israel.

I am not on TikTok.
I am intelligent and I do not oppose Israel because I have read enough from neutral sources to have a stand on this issue and the Palestinians are not innocent.

They cheered Hamas on October 7th and voted for a terrorist organisation that has under Article 7 in their manifesto to annihilate the Jewish State.

It is Hamas and the Palestinians who want to annihilate Jews (a genocide) by the way who you should accuse of genocide. They are not militarily superior to Israel in any capacity but they have a dangerous ideology that dying while killing Jews is a matyrdom that is sick.

budaatum:


Ahh. I get you now.

You ignore whatever Palestinians say by convincing yourself it is conflated, and those of us who don't think like you do are deceived.

The next step from the above is, we are ignorant. I'm sure you've heard that too after they say you are deceived that the Jan6 sightseers were tourists and the trouble makers were the FBI.

Buda, has the Hamas ministry of Health in Gaza given you the death toll figures of Hamas fighters, can you answer why it is only women and children making the death toll?

AmazonTopaz:


It was never their land.

IT WAS NEVER THEIR LAND

Its not going to be easy for you to convince me that land that my great grandfather inherited from his father and that my father inherited from my grandfather and willed to me was never my land because I never called it Palestine.

We grew olives on the land in question. And if you knew anything about ancient olive trees you'd know it does not fruit in the generation that planted it.

But you are going to forgive me for not labouring the point with you. Bemeruca exhausted me already with the argument you are starting all over again here and I don't have the desire to repeat myself.

AmazonTopaz:

They do. Even dummy Ben Shapiro took one of these students to the cleaners they get their information from TikTok. No brilliant mind will justify October 7th and carry water for terrorists. I see some of these students talk even me that didn't go to an Ivy league school is way more intelligent than they are and that is me being realistic. Are you not aware that Qatar and some Arab states donate millions to these Universities and that is in part why their students are teachers are sympathetic to these people? There is an investigation that some of these protests were orchestrated by these people so let's wait for the complete report. Those students are useful idiots who do not read.


U.S. policy with Israel makes complete sense they are both Democratic allies what U.S. policy are you expecting to be in alliance with Islamic theocrats who are anti-Democracy and liberty and will kill LGBTQ people and hamper women's rights while believing that killing people will grant them 72 virgins. This is a no brainer.

I always ranked you at the same level with Obrigardo. But today I've been forced to like two posts from you.