IjeBos:


Your argument is all over the place.
So, subsidies and handouts are ok if you're a billionaire.
You should probably take a look at how some of these people became billionaires.

raumdeuter:


Everyone pays what the law requires them to, Anyone who doesnt will be jailed.
You pay what the law requires you and you call it fair share, a billionaire pays what the law requires him and you say he should pay fair share?

Who determines fair share if not the law

cococandy:
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If you don’t know that the billionaire class haven’t been paying their fair share of taxes, you should have researched before talking about it. If you knew, then you’re choosing to lie.

So, you’re either being disingenuous or you’re unprepared for the conversation. Either way it shows I was right in the beginning to say I wasn’t going to go back and forth with you.

raumdeuter:


Try to become one of these billionaires too so you can get your own subsidies and handouts

cococandy:


The same law that’s filled with bought politicians?

If I paid zero or 1.1% taxes, I’d be in jail

Pls go be disingenuous somewhere else

IjeBos:


Raum: I think socialism and welfare are bad.
Me: What about all the subsidies(socialism and corporate welfare) people like Musk get?
Raum: That socialism and welfare is good.

In fact do you think Tesla/Musk getting extra help in form of subsidies and rebates, to produce EV's, in order to level the playing field with Gas cars was good or bad?

bemeruca:


Repeating Biden's senile remark.

You want to steal their wealth or just like most socialist leftist you want to steal their wealth?

What is their fair share? You know that phrase means nothing right?

IjeBos:


Raum: I think socialism and welfare are bad.
Me: What about all the subsidies(socialism and corporate welfare) people like Musk get?
Raum: That socialism and welfare is good.

In fact do you think Tesla/Musk getting extra help in form of subsidies and rebates, to produce EV's, in order to level the playing field with Gas cars was good or bad?

raumdeuter:


Bezos can pay 0% if thats what the law says, You are paying what you are because thats what the law says, If I ask you why are you not paying 90% as taxes you will say its what the law states

How come the Democratic politicians have not changed the law since? in 2020 Democrats won every thing from Presidency to Senate to Congress, why didnt they change the law? Because they dont intend to and just use the line to gather votes without any intentions to do anything about it

Trump said it best in his debate with Hilary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXB0GebRrQ

raumdeuter:


Its the phrase they use to rile up their base

Someone paying 30% for example, how did he know he is paying his fair share? Your fair share is determined by law
Any billionaire who is not following the law and paying what the law demands should be in jail

cococandy:
Exactly. The law says he can pay less than me because the law is in his pocket.

Or wait I thought you said she wanted to install communism? Now she intends to do nothing about it?

At some point you have to pick a side. It gets olds dancing to whatever tune you think will win the argument

You have validated all I said. No need for the needless back and forth

bemeruca:


If that is true by now they would have locked Elon and trump up for not paying their fair share. I don't understand how people are easily deceived

raumdeuter:


Become Musk so you can get what he is getting in welfare, subsidies and handout

If you could have been Musk you would have done that a long time ago

IjeBos:
You went from 'welfare is bad' to 'get it if u can'.
You're a study in intellectual dishonesty.

cococandy:


I know people are going to twist it to say she means because a neurosurgeon drives a Ferrari then a store clerk should too.

When equality of outcomes simply means that if a neurosurgeon shouldn’t die of hunger or lack of adequate healthcare then it should be the same for a low wage worker. Access to basic human needs shouldn’t be restricted to only the wealthy and high class.

bemeruca:


You don't know what socialism is. Subsidy they get is for you to be able to afford their product by making it cheap.

Government wants you to buy EVs so they want it affordable. If you cannot distinguish the difference here then I feel sorry for you

The help Tesla is getting is to bring cost down. They cannot sell at loss.

cococandy:
Exactly. The law says he can pay less than me because the law is in his pocket.

Or wait I thought you said she wanted to install communism? Now she intends to do nothing about it?

At some point you have to pick a side. It gets olds dancing to whatever tune you think will win the argument

You have validated all I said. No need for the needless back and forth

IjeBos:



Here is a rule for you. If you read something I write and think I am mistaken about something, 99.99% of the time it'll be because you are mistaken and have missed the point of what I am writing.
Why?
You have the intellectual depth of a puddle of water.

bemeruca:


Repeating Biden's senile remark.

You want to steal their wealth or just like most socialist leftist you want to steal their wealth?

What is their fair share? You know that phrase means nothing right?

IjeBos:


You went from 'welfare is bad' to 'get it if u can'.
You're a study in intellectual dishonesty.

kkins25:


That's not what the law says.. Thats the principle of economics.. Do you have any, or the slightest idea what you're typing at all?

bemeruca:


Shutup you think welfare/socialism is the same as subsidy.

kkins25:


Or, is it the same, "I'll clear corruption in two weeks(even though I have no plans yet), vote for me" kind of thing.

raumdeuter:

Try to become one of these billionaires too so you can get your own subsidies and handouts

IjeBos:
Listen, cococandy wrote a good post on what it is like having a discussion with Raum and most conservatives on here.
And like clockwork he proves her right, again.

IjeBos:


I have a degree in Economics. You?
Again, I gave you the rule.

bemeruca:


And you don't know this basic thing.
This is why DEI is bad.

How do you equate subsidy to welfare?

Do you think Elon needs money from Govt to survive or the Govt is pushing an agenda of replacing combustion engine so they subsidy EV production so dumbos like you can buy it at cheap.
So how does the government wanting to promote the growth of EVs by investing in it = welfare?

AmazonTopaz:
This post just dropped

You guys should take a look at this. They just finished Trump

The talking point about Minneapolis will die down now. Harris's campaign is very good.

Watch this.

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1821285528504877347?s=19

IjeBos:


I told you the rule. If you are asking these questions based on something I said, assume there is answer out there and you are the one misunderstanding or just too stupid to understand.
Let's go even further, take this argument you are making and sit with it.. maybe for a week giving how vapid you are.. and maybe you'll see the correlation.

I just find you really dense and don't even want to invest energy leading you to the water.

IjeBos:


I told you the rule. If you are asking these questions based on something I said, assume there is answer out there and you are the one misunderstanding or just too stupid to understand.
Let's go even further, take this argument you are making and sit with it.. maybe for a week giving how vapid you are.. and maybe you'll see the correlation.

I just find you really dense and don't even want to invest energy leading you to the water.

AmazonTopaz:


Sanpipita, and just yesterday I was scared that Republicans will use Minneapolis as their biggest asset against Walz but Trump and his big mouth.

The entire BLM protest thing has been nuttered.
Trump is cooked.

1stGenAmerican:
😂😅
TRUMP HAS A VERY BUSY SCHEDULE AHEAD!
-10 days until his Election Fraud Trial Begins
-42 days before he is sentenced for his 34 previous convictions

What’s funnier? As a convicted felon, he’s losing the right to vote! A presidential candidate that can’t vote?
Trump can’t even vote for himself! 😂🤣 Reminds me of all the January 6th idiots who weren’t registered voters and are sitting in jail. 😂😅

MAGA, hold this L—and there’s many more coming your way! 😂😅