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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:38am On Aug 16
Ukraine blew up the Nordstream 2 pipeline.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-general-defied-zelenskyy-to-blow-up-nord-stream-attack-wsj-2024-8

Germans may not be happy that they have to pay higher prices for alternative gas.
One senior German official familiar with the country's police investigation into the matter told The Journal: "Our critical infrastructure was blown up by a country that we support with massive weapons shipments and billions in cash."
What's so important with Ukraine joining NATO that it provoked a war where hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost, Ukraine has lost 20% of it's territory and in an area with vast shake oil deposits.
Joe and Kamala foreign policy failures.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 6:45am On Aug 16
raumdeuter:
A few years ago, Trump was the darling of the leftist media. This was his reception on the view

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1823808656825000274?s=19

If Trump drops out today, the next Republican nominee will be hated as well.
I remember how Bush Romney and McCain were also hated by the left media now they are darlings of the Democrats

They were "Hated" on the left media because of policy and not on a personal level. The same way the Right also "Hated" Obama and called him all sorts of names. Even him wearing a tan suit became the greatest scandal of his presidency.

Others in the GOP who lost election didn't whyne and tell their VP not to certify the election. Isn't it? They accepted their loss in good faith.

Mccain stood up to a woman who tried to say Obama wasn't born in the US or was a Muslim. That was the type of politics being played by the Party of Reagan until Trump came into the picture and dabaru your party.

Mccain and Romney lost againt Obama,they put a call and congratulated him. Even Hilary congratulated Trump himself. He reach Trump time he said the election was rigged and told his supporters to storm the Capitol and told his VP to stop the legal and peaceful transfer of power

Shior

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:57am On Aug 16
happney65:


They were "Hated" on the left media because of policy and not on a personal level. The same way the Right also "Hated" Obama and called him all sorts of names. Even him wearing a tan suit became the greatest scandal of his presidency.

Others in the GOP who lost election didn't whyne and tell their VP not to certify the election. Isn't it? They accepted their loss in good faith.

Mccain stood up to a woman who tried to say Obama wasn't born in the US or wasn't a Muslim. That was the type of politics being played by the Party of Reagan until Trump came into the picture and dabaru your party.

Mccain and Romney lost againt Obama,they put a call and congratulated him. Even Hilary congratulated Trump himself. He reach Trump time he said the election was rigged and told his supporters to storm the Capitol and told his VP to stop the legal and peaceful transfer of power

Shior

Myopic. Trump is an outsider, no connections with the DC critters. He won by pointing out how corrupt DC is , he had specific plans on how to bring back jobs, how to stop illegal immigration. Etc
They hated him because they could not control him,a billionaire who could not be bought.
He would not start any war, he promised to end wars but gave the MIC the chance to make their usual cash by strengthening the military and exporting arms to Saudi Arabia.
You think that aid to Ukraine for instance doesnt have a percentage wired back to DC elites?
They went after trump from1st minute. Had Jeb won they would have been critical but not to the extent they went against Trump.

Now let me you in on a secret. If something makes liberals go stark raving mad, then that's the right thing to do
Because the liberal left is just plain evil.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 7:47am On Aug 16
basilico:


Myopic. Trump is an outsider, no connections with the DC critters. He won by pointing out how corrupt DC is , he had specific plans on how to bring back jobs, how to stop illegal immigration. Etc
They hated him because they could not control him,a billionaire who could not be bought.
He would not start any war, he promised to end wars but gave the MIC the chance to make their usual cash by strengthening the military and exporting arms to Saudi Arabia.
You think that aid to Ukraine for instance doesnt have a percentage wired back to DC elites?
They went after trump from1st minute. Had Jeb won they would have been critical but not to the extent they went against Trump.

Now let me you in on a secret. If something makes liberals go stark raving mad, then that's the right thing to do
Because the liberal left is just plain evil.

Basi baba werey.. grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:56am On Aug 16
Convicted felon trump is an awful awful disgusting man. This is the waste of life influencing basilico loco's world view.

There's gonna be a long line of people waiting to piss on his grave when he's dead and gone. Mark my words.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:50am On Aug 16
Obrigardo:
Convicted felon trump is an awful awful disgusting man. This is the waste of life influencing basilico loco's world view.

There's gonna be a long line of people waiting to piss on his grave when he's dead and gone. Mark my words.

America is roughly divided into two.
The far left are the worst of the worst in terms of hatred and vitriol.
The left is more likely to urinate on a corpse than the right .

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Maeve7: 11:07am On Aug 16
Obrigardo:
Convicted felon trump is an awful awful disgusting man. This is the waste of life influencing basilico loco's world view.

There's gonna be a long line of people waiting to piss on his grave when he's dead and gone. Mark my words.

Basilico loco grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 12:00pm On Aug 16
basilico:


America is roughly divided into two.
The far left are the worst of the worst in terms of hatred and vitriol.
The left is more likely to urinate on a corpse than the right .

I can't explain how intellectually inept you really are. You remember when felon trump whipped up the maga crowd who then marched to the capitol and the beat up capitol police, and that resulted in all the proud boys leadership serving decades in jail, oath keepers serving long jail term, and recently one of the longest jail term of 21 years was served just a year behind Enrique tarios 22 years.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:42pm On Aug 16
happney65:


They were "Hated" on the left media because of policy and not on a personal level. The same way the Right also "Hated" Obama and called him all sorts of names. Even him wearing a tan suit became the greatest scandal of his presidency.

Others in the GOP who lost election didn't whyne and tell their VP not to certify the election. Isn't it? They accepted their loss in good faith.

Mccain stood up to a woman who tried to say Obama wasn't born in the US or was a Muslim. That was the type of politics being played by the Party of Reagan until Trump came into the picture and dabaru your party.

Mccain and Romney lost againt Obama,they put a call and congratulated him. Even Hilary congratulated Trump himself. He reach Trump time he said the election was rigged and told his supporters to storm the Capitol and told his VP to stop the legal and peaceful transfer of power

Shior

Romney was 2 time governor of Massachusetts a deep blue state, he gave them Massachusetts Healthcare which is almost exactly like Obama care
The day he decided to run, he immediately became a racist and a vulture capitalist
The moment he lost he stopped being all those

Hillary that congratulated is the same one who called Trump an illegitimate president? Is it not the same Hillary who claimed it was Russian collusion that made Trump win. And the left spent years investigating the Russian collusion

2yrs ago When it looked like DeSantis might be the front runner, we started hearing how he was worse than Trump.

The only Republican that they like is the one who has lost or the one they are sure will lose like Nikki Haley

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:09pm On Aug 16
basilico:


What glitzy economy is that where groceries are a huge talking about that require a sort of price control.

Venezuela, Maduro imposed price controls. Food shortages started very soon after.

Kamala will outline her communist solution to capitalism today.

Kamala plans to give $25K to first time home owners. What will be the effect. Every home will go up by more than $25K.
It's like giving everyone money. Prices go up.
Socialism involves big govt intruding into every space.
The other one about fixing rent prices. Socialism.
Fixing the prices of groceries. Socialism.

Trump should label her a communist per see. That's how it starts, govt offers goodies because we shall tax the bourgeoisie heavily.
Next is silencing every critic like the liberals want to shutdown every opposing view.
In the extreme case the wealthy are treated as potential troublemakers to the rulers, their wealth is confiscated and they are exiled to Siberia or to Polpot killing fields.

On disqus someone mentioned after a hurricane in Florida they would rush generators immediately and make a killing . Within hours others would go for the gold rush , and in a few days the prices would hit rock bottom with some vendors almost giving them away for free . Because of demand and supply. When the state fixed the prices of gensets , it now takes weeks before the situation corrects Fewer people are willing to rush gensets whose price is already fixed by the state.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 1:19pm On Aug 16
raumdeuter:


Romney was 2 time governor of Massachusetts a deep blue state, he gave them Massachusetts Healthcare which is almost exactly like Obama care
The day he decided to run, he immediately became a racist and a vulture capitalist
The moment he lost he stopped being all those

Hillary that congratulated is the same one who called Trump an illegitimate president? Is it not the same Hillary who claimed it was Russian collusion that made Trump win. And the left spent years investigating the Russian collusion

2yrs ago When it looked like DeSantis might be the front runner, we started hearing how he was worse than Trump.

The only Republican that they like is the one who has lost or the one they are sure will lose like Nikki Haley

Dayo that is simply politics. Opponents will blacklist each other to win elections, even within the same party during their primaries. For example, we all know the name callings and insults that have been passed between Trump and J.D., but now they are on the same ticket. Name calling and bad mouthing opponents have been like that from eternity and will remain like that.

What is key here is that, when all the dusts of insults and bad labels are off, facts will remain standing. Irrespective of whatever ideology that is wrong with the Democrats, is Trump the best of GOP to prosecute the case against them? Where is the decency, honor and integrity known with GOP candidates? Once upon a time, there is no way someone with an accusation of infidelity will win a GOP ticket to the Congress not to talk of getting Presidential ticket. But who do we have here? Trump; Married 3 times, lies for fun with no remorse, someone who asked that women should be grabbed by the pu**y, a fraudster, a convicted felon, someone who mobilize the mob against the Capitol...etc These are not political made up stories or ideology issues like being extremes... These are facts about Trump. And if this is the best of GOP or by whatever means he emerged should be a serious concern for the party.

Forgets about the political parties and their different ideologies, after the elections when the dusts of propagandas are dawn.... Imagine the President and C in C of the great USA known to the rest of the world is a Convicted felon, a porn-star furker with no honor, only good at bragging and telling lies; Africa and some other 3 world countries can present someone like that as their leader, but it is a shame to a country like US.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:23pm On Aug 16
Obrigardo:


I can't explain how intellectually inept you really are. You remember when felon trump whipped up the maga crowd who then marched to the capitol and the beat up capitol police, and that resulted in all the proud boys leadership serving decades in jail, oath keepers serving long jail term, and recently one of the longest jail term of 21 years was served just a year behind Enrique tarios 22 years.


I remember very well him telling him 'fight like hell'.
Where was Kamala Harris when the pipe bomb at the DNC was discovered. Had SS done a sweep with a canine , then she passed just 20ft away from where the bomb was placed ?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:32pm On Aug 16
ObaIgwe1:


Dayo that is simply politics. Opponents will blacklist each other to win elections, even within the same party during their primaries. For example, we all know the name callings and insults that have been passed between Trump and J.D., but now they are on the same ticket. Name calling and bad mouthing opponents have been like that from eternity and will remain like that.

What is key here is that, when all the dusts of insults and bad labels are off, facts will remain standing. Irrespective of whatever ideology that is wrong with the Democrats, is Trump the best of GOP to prosecute the case against them? Where is the decency, honor and integrity known with GOP candidates? Once upon a time, there is no way someone with an accusation of infidelity will win a GOP ticket to the Congress not to talk of getting Presidential ticket. But who do we have here? Trump; Married 3 times, lies for fun with no remorse, someone who asked that women should be grabbed by the pu**y, a fraudster, a convicted felon, someone who mobilize the mob against the Capitol...etc These are not political made up stories or ideology issues like being extremes... These are facts about Trump. And if this is the best of GOP or by whatever means he emerged should be a serious concern for the party.

Forgets about the political parties and their different ideologies, after the elections when the dusts of propagandas are dawn.... Imagine the President and C in C of the great USA known to the rest of the world is a Convicted felon, a porn-star furker with no honor, only good at bragging and telling lies; Africa and some other 3 world countries can present someone like that as their leader, but it is a shame to a country like US.

You fail to note that Trump is ex president. He is running on a record of low immigration, low inflation and low gas prices.
What does a purported one night stand have to do with running the country.
You are holding GOP to a moral compass while a democratic can pretend to be a retired rank he was not and another owes her rise to sucking Will Brown dickk. Pelosi came from a mafia like family.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:34pm On Aug 16
raumdeuter:


Romney was 2 time governor of Massachusetts a deep blue state, he gave them Massachusetts Healthcare which is almost exactly like Obama care
The day he decided to run, he immediately became a racist and a vulture capitalist
The moment he lost he stopped being all those

Hillary that congratulated is the same one who called Trump an illegitimate president? Is it not the same Hillary who claimed it was Russian collusion that made Trump win. And the left spent years investigating the Russian collusion

2yrs ago When it looked like DeSantis might be the front runner, we started hearing how he was worse than Trump.

The only Republican that they like is the one who has lost or the one they are sure will lose like Nikki Haley

Democrats can reject election results without a problem.
Stacey Abrams never accepted loss also.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:42pm On Aug 16
1stGenAmerican:


Portions of the news that you’re calling a lie was echoed by The Kremlin and other Russian news sources. Are you saying that they’re also lying? The Kremlin is begrudgingly reporting casualties and confirming news of mandatory evacuations. Are they lying ? You pro-Russia monikers have been saying that Ukraine was being smashed since a week after the invasion —how long does a total smashing take? If there was any truth to it, the war would’ve been over long ago.

True Ukraine has taken territory in Russia and are holding Russian troops as hostages. Ukraine has lost 20% of its own to Russia, shale oil rich zone plus the Crimea port.
They are being encouraged to keep fighting by esp America,if they surrendered today Biden Kamala would look very weak on foreign policy just before a pivotal election 3 months away. America has squandered hundreds of billions of dollars to secure Ukraine border, while the border with Mexico only needed $25 billion to build an impregnable wall. Very poor foreign policy by Kamala Biden regime.
Another failure is the pressure America is putting on IDF not to finish off Hamas and Palestinian terrorists. So that they look good ,compare to Trump who brokered historic Abrahamic Records deals across the middle east.
Come to think of it , a hostage release takes months , Ukraine can't reach a deal with Russia until after US elections

But hey Trump slept with a porrnstar😆😆😆
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 1:51pm On Aug 16
raumdeuter:


Romney was 2 time governor of Massachusetts a deep blue state, he gave them Massachusetts Healthcare which is almost exactly like Obama care
The day he decided to run, he immediately became a racist and a vulture capitalist
The moment he lost he stopped being all those

Hillary that congratulated is the same one who called Trump an illegitimate president? Is it not the same Hillary who claimed it was Russian collusion that made Trump win. And the left spent years investigating the Russian collusion

2yrs ago When it looked like DeSantis might be the front runner, we started hearing how he was worse than Trump.

The only Republican that they like is the one who has lost or the one they are sure will lose like Nikki Haley

And what did.Republicans do to the Dems? Ohh they were rubbing their heads and telling them they are doing well isn't it? grin

The People that called Obama all sorts of names. His family and all. Tell me naa?

If Hilary called Trump an illegitimate President it was still Politics. The person he called Illegitimate, she congratulated him and even attended his swearing in. You can say whatever you like as there is freedom of speech.

But what did Trump do? He took the part of violence. Told him supporters to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Told his VP to not certify Joe Biden's election. An action nobody has ever done in the USA

But you will leave the violence Trump and his supporters caused and be talking about people not like this and that.

P.S You Republicans were against Biden dropping isn't it because you saw Trump will lose if he drops out. You claimed he was being pushed out by the Dems and all of a sudden you started supporting Biden.

The same Biden that was hiding in a basement? grin grin grin

Hypocrisy is your second Name

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:53pm On Aug 16
ObaIgwe1:


Dayo that is simply politics. Opponents will blacklist each other to win elections, even within the same party during their primaries. For example, we all know the name callings and insults that have been passed between Trump and J.D., but now they are on the same ticket. Name calling and bad mouthing opponents have been like that from eternity and will remain like that.

What is key here is that, when all the dusts of insults and bad labels are off, facts will remain standing. Irrespective of whatever ideology that is wrong with the Democrats, is Trump the best of GOP to prosecute the case against them? Where is the decency, honor and integrity known with GOP candidates? Once upon a time, there is no way someone with an accusation of infidelity will win a GOP ticket to the Congress not to talk of getting Presidential ticket. But who do we have here? Trump; Married 3 times, lies for fun with no remorse, someone who asked that women should be grabbed by the pu**y, a fraudster, a convicted felon, someone who mobilize the mob against the Capitol...etc These are not political made up stories or ideology issues like being extremes... These are facts about Trump. And if this is the best of GOP or by whatever means he emerged should be a serious concern for the party.

Forgets about the political parties and their different ideologies, after the elections when the dusts of propagandas are dawn.... Imagine the President and C in C of the great USA known to the rest of the world is a Convicted felon, a porn-star furker with no honor, only good at bragging and telling lies; Africa and some other 3 world countries can present someone like that as their leader, but it is a shame to a country like US.

Its not the opponent though, it's the media and it's wrong. You may think the US is a democracy but it's not.

You cannot have a country with a rogue media actively spreading lies, half truths and also do everything they can to shutdown alternative voices in coalition with one of the political party and still think it is a democracy.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:07pm On Aug 16
ObaIgwe1:


Dayo that is simply politics. Opponents will blacklist each other to win elections, even within the same party during their primaries. For example, we all know the name callings and insults that have been passed between Trump and J.D., but now they are on the same ticket. Name calling and bad mouthing opponents have been like that from eternity and will remain like that.

What is key here is that, when all the dusts of insults and bad labels are off, facts will remain standing. Irrespective of whatever ideology that is wrong with the Democrats, is Trump the best of GOP to prosecute the case against them? Where is the decency, honor and integrity known with GOP candidates? Once upon a time, there is no way someone with an accusation of infidelity will win a GOP ticket to the Congress not to talk of getting Presidential ticket. But who do we have here? Trump; Married 3 times, lies for fun with no remorse, someone who asked that women should be grabbed by the pu**y, a fraudster, a convicted felon, someone who mobilize the mob against the Capitol...etc These are not political made up stories or ideology issues like being extremes... These are facts about Trump. And if this is the best of GOP or by whatever means he emerged should be a serious concern for the party.

Forgets about the political parties and their different ideologies, after the elections when the dusts of propagandas are dawn.... Imagine the President and C in C of the great USA known to the rest of the world is a Convicted felon, a porn-star furker with no honor, only good at bragging and telling lies; Africa and some other 3 world countries can present someone like that as their leader, but it is a shame to a country like US.

So we can say its simply politics that is being played with Trump, Cos the left loved Trump until he decided to contest, he was friends and donors to all of them including Hillary and Kamala. No on genuinely believed the allegations they are leveling at Trump that he is Hitler, he will end democracy, he is the most dangerous president etc. So its all politics.

Swap Trump with anyone that can actually win and all those attacks directed at Trump will come to the candidate as well

Democracy is not about some people sitting in a hall and choosing the best, Its about the populace choosing whoever they wanted. Even if he/she doesnt met your standard of purity. The GOP voters decided its Trump the serial divorcee, the poorn star fucker, that they wanted.

You seem to always believe in these shady media lies. Which president does not lie? or which politician does not lie for fun?
Which president swore under oath that "I did not have sexual relations with that woman " while getting his knob sucked
Or that someone with an affair wont win the GOP ticket, when half of presidents Dem and Republicans have had affairs some while even in office

People who became presidents are men like you and I and have desires like regular men do. Half the married men will jump at an opportunity to be with Beyonce for example. Reagan the greatest Republican president had an affair, Kennedy one of the greatest Democrats had an affair, LBJ had an affair, the list of women that Clinton slept with in and out of office can fill a hall. Trump actually tried to bring all the women into a debate hall and there was no space to fill them all into

With almost 50% of US marriages ending in divorce, if that was the the standard then half of US adults wont qualify for presidency

No one is looking a president as a moral compass, if you need a moral compass go to your local church or mosque. Actually stats in US say half of preachers have been divorced at some point

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:09pm On Aug 16
The untold story of how Pelosi forced Biden to step down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13748441/Nancy-Pelosi-forced-Biden-quit-brutal-phone-call-ultimatum.html

NYT, Axios have published similar stories fingering Pelosi as the mastermind.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:10pm On Aug 16
When it looked like DeSantis might actually be the ticket holder

He became worse than Trump, and the most dangerous politician ever, Now that Trump has won the ticket, He is now back to the most dangerous man

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:13pm On Aug 16
happney65:


And what did.Republicans do to the Dems? Ohh they were rubbing their heads and telling them they are doing well isn't it? grin

The People that called Obama all sorts of names. His family and all. Tell me naa?

If Hilary called Trump an illegitimate President it was still Politics. The person he called Illegitimate, she congratulated him and even attended his swearing in. You can say whatever you like as there is freedom of speech.

But what did Trump do? He took the part of violence. Told him supporters to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Told his VP to not certify Joe Biden's election. An action nobody has ever done in the USA

But you will leave the violence Trump and his supporters caused and be talking about people not like this and that.

P.S You Republicans were against Biden dropping isn't it because you saw Trump will lose if he drops out. You claimed he was being pushed out by the Dems and all of a sudden you started supporting Biden.

The same Biden that was hiding in a basement? grin grin grin

Hypocrisy is your second Name

How is an illegitimate president still part of politics? Do you know what an illegitimate president means? Russian collusion is also part of politics. Then Trump election denialism is also part of politics then

Abi its only politics when Democrats deny election results but real threats when Trump denies election

You knew all these about Biden and yet till 1month ago you were pushing him for presidency yet calling someone out for hypocrisy?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:24pm On Aug 16
basilico:
The untold story of how Pelosi forced Biden to step down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13748441/Nancy-Pelosi-forced-Biden-quit-brutal-phone-call-ultimatum.html

NYT, Axios have published similar stories fingering Pelosi as the mastermind.

Its a coup and hunter Biden is a huge problem.
The msm are now shedding some light on hunter Biden.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 2:27pm On Aug 16
raumdeuter:


How is an illegitimate president still part of politics? Do you know what an illegitimate president means? Russian collusion is also part of politics. Then Trump election denialism is also part of politics then

Abi its only politics when Democrats deny election results but real threats when Trump denies election

You knew all these about Biden and yet till 1month ago you were pushing him for presidency yet calling someone out for hypocrisy?

Saying a president is illegitimate is under freedom of speech isn't it? But even at that what did Hilary
and others did? They accepted their defeat in peace. No violence

But what did Trump do? He went the path of violence. He told his supporters to stop it. Didn't he? Didn't he go the path of violence? Told his VP not to certify the election. Did others do such?

So henceforth all US President should take the part of violence like Trump did? Isn't it? cheesy grin

P.S. In reference to Biden,I was referring to what you people call him "Hiding in the basement " but you are now on his side and angry that he stepped down because you know his chances of winning isn't sure. The same thing you accused the dems of doing against Nikki and others

Na you gangan be the hypocrite.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:37pm On Aug 16
happney65:


Saying a president is illegitimate is under freedom of speech isn't it? But even at that what did Hilary
and others did? They accepted their defeat in peace. No violence

But what did Trump do? He went the path of violence. He told his supporters to stop it. Didn't he? Didn't he go the path of violence? Told his VP not to certify the election. Did others do such?

So henceforth all US President should take the part of violence like Trump did? Isn't it? cheesy grin

P.S. In reference to Biden,I was referring to what you people call him "Hiding in the basement " but you are now on his side and angry that he stepped down because you know his chances of winning isn't sure. The same thing you accused the dems of doing against Nikki and others

Na you gangan be the hypocrite.

Calling a president illegitimate is denying the process that made him president and that is election denialism. You can twist yourself into pretzels claiming otherwise
Hillary accepted the loss in peace? No. They spent years chasing Russian interference as the reason Trump won
The Russian probe too was that also part of politics?

Did you see Trump carry any weapon? So if illegitimate president is free speech, why is the thing Trump said too to deny and question the electoral process too not free speech

If you want to see more hypocrisy, look at the mirror
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:37pm On Aug 16
raumdeuter:


Calling a president illegitimate is denying the process that made him president and that is election denialism. You can twist yourself into pretzels claiming otherwise
Hillary accepted the loss in peace? No. They spent years chasing Russian interference as the reason Trump won
The Russian probe too was that also part of politics?

Did you see Trump carry any weapon? So if illegitimate president is free speech, why is the thing Trump said too to deny and question the electoral process too not free speech

If you want to see more hypocrisy, look at the mirror

There were planned riots should Trump win and also, leading to the election, there were riots and dems urging rioters to attack senators.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:38pm On Aug 16
Uk prime minister was kicked out of a pub

https://x.com/barrystantonGBP/status/1823417320079045001?s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:51pm On Aug 16
raumdeuter:


Hillary accepted the loss in peace? No. They spent years chasing Russian interference as the reason Trump won
The Russian probe too was that also part of politics?

Look at this sentence. This is the dishonesty of the conservative mind and how conspiracies abound in their heads.

The first sentence is "Hillary accepted the loss in peace?"
Then his next sentence "They spent years chasing Russian interference as the reason Trump won. The Russian probe too was that also part of politics?"

Notice the switch in the subject from "Hillary" to "They ". Who is "They"? Did Hillary open an investigation and run the Russia Probe? "They" always does the heavy lifting in the minds of these Maga Nuts. Raumdeuter can't say "Trump's Justice department led by a Republican Mueller" so "They" allows them to be dishonest and for them to cope in their minds with information that doesn't fit their narrative.

It's how children think and write.
Fun fact: Trump does so much better with the uneducated/undereducated.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:56pm On Aug 16
bemeruca:


There were planned riots should Trump win and also, leading to the election, there were riots and dems urging rioters to attack senators.

The quality of posts from "Republican" leaning posters in this thread is really really poor. I'm not sure I've read one which I found intelligently written.
Though, I have read a lot of posts like this, where it sounds like a bot programmed in Russian attempted to write a post in English.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:22pm On Aug 16
IjeBos:


The quality of posts from "Republican" leaning posters in this thread is really really poor. I'm not sure I've read one which I found intelligently written.
Though, I have read a lot of posts like this, where it sounds like a bot programmed in Russian attempted to write a post in English.

Maybe you should talk to seun to do something about it. Some of us are not jobless.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:27pm On Aug 16
IjeBos:


Look at this sentence. This is the dishonesty of the conservative mind and how conspiracies abound in their heads.

The first sentence is "Hillary accepted the loss in peace?"
Then his next sentence "They spent years chasing Russian interference as the reason Trump won. The Russian probe too was that also part of politics?"

Notice the switch in the subject from "Hillary" to "They ". Who is "They"? Did Hillary open an investigation and run the Russia Probe? "They" always does the heavy lifting in the minds of these Maga Nuts. Raumdeuter can't say "Trump's Justice department led by a Republican Mueller" so "They" allows them to be dishonest and for them to cope in their minds with information that doesn't fit their narrative.

It's how children think and write.
Fun fact: Trump does so much better with the uneducated/undereducated.

You don't know Clinton invented Russia hoax. Then FBI investigated it and found no evidence after wasting away Trump for 2 years

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