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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:33pm On Aug 16
Gbadebo19:

You obviously are the one who is not a lawyer.
Go back to section 62 of your evidence act. Don't let me start disgracing you pls. grin

We're discussing International Law and International issues and you're mentioning Nigerian Evidence Act...you don't know what you're talking about?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:33pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


Where did i write Hamas controlled the PNA? I wrote that it was LED by Hamas and Fatah. The PNA before the elections had onboard both Hamas and Fatah, along with all Palestinian factions. The PA today is basically just Fatah

Wikipedia literally states:
"After Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections on 25 January 2006, Ismail Haniyeh was nominated Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority, establishing a Palestinian national unity government with Fatah"
Don't misquote me either.
You wrote led by Hamas and Fatah.
I responded to mean controlled by Fatah, Hamas merely held membership.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:38pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


We're discussing International Law and International issues and you're mentioning Nigerian Evidence Act...you don't know what you're talking about?

Oh, sorry for the digression.
I still stand by my view. I am just more accustomed to make reference to Nigerian law when issues arise.
Yes, I still stand by my view. A quick run through of my law and social change notes revealed that books have been used, so you still need to go back to school grin grin
You can see the case of Katanga (heard by the ICC) where a book written by a journalist was considered as evidence of war crimes in tbe Republic of Congo.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:39pm On Aug 16
Only few on this thread have the level of knowledge to competently dissect the range of news on this thread, i.e. an International level of analysis

Many are just lost, but it's a free thread for anyone to post

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:42pm On Aug 16
Gbadebo19:

Oh, sorry for the digression.
I still stand by my view. I am just more accustomed to make reference to Nigerian law when issues arise.
Yes, I still stand by my view. A quick run through of my law and social change notes revealed that books have been used, so you still need to go back to school grin grin
You can see ICC vs Katanga where a book written by a journalist was considered as evidence of war crimes in tbe Republic of Congo.

A lawyer shouldn't be debating if books are a source of law, that is 100level stuff

Go learn about International Law

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:44pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


A lawyer shouldn't be debating if books are a source of law, that is 100level stuff

Go learn about International Law
You are now jettisoning your initial position. You said books are not admissible sources of evidence, I replied and told you they are, now instead of conceding, you twisting the argument. It is allowed. It is our trade. Isn't it?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:50pm On Aug 16
Gbadebo19:

You are now jettisoning your initial position. You said books are not admissible sources of evidence, I replied and told you they are, now instead of conceding, you twisting the argument. It is allowed. It is our trade. Isn't it?

This is my last reply to you

Can you quote the Bible as evidence in either the International Criminal Court or the International Court of Justice or even the UN to justify your claims on Palestine and israel?

In Nigeria, the only books that are sources of law are legal books proffering legal opinions and they are secondary sources used only to buttress an argument supported by the primary sources(statutes or case laws)

The Bible will not be admissible as a book of history, whether in Nigeria or elsewhere

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:50pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


A lawyer shouldn't be debating if books are a source of law, that is 100level stuff

Go learn about International Law
Reply me like a lawyer yen yen yen
Now, you have been replied like a lawyer with a legal case provided as back up. The matter suddenly becomes 100 level stuff. Mtcheeew
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:53pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


This is my last reply to you

Can you quote the Bible as evidence in either the International Criminal Court or the International Court of Justice or even the UN to justify your claims on Palestine and israel?

In Nigeria, the only books that are sources of law are legal books proffering legal opinions and they are secondary sources used only to buttress an argument supported by the primary sources(statutes or case laws)

The Bible will not be admissible as a book of history, whether in Nigeria or elsewhere
I only used the Bible to buttress that books are admissible sources of evidence. As a matter of practicality in court, I will never quote the Bible but will quote the "dead sea scrolls." They are archaeological discoveries.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:55pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


This is my last reply to you

Can you quote the Bible as evidence in either the International Criminal Court or the International Court of Justice or even the UN to justify your claims on Palestine and israel?

In Nigeria, the only books that are sources of law are legal books proffering legal opinions and they are secondary sources used only to buttress an argument supported by the primary sources(statutes or case laws)

The Bible will not be admissible as a book of history, whether in Nigeria or elsewhere
You are mixing it up. We are not talking about books as sources of law, but rather about admissibility of evidence.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 3:57pm On Aug 16
Social media, especially nairaland, are the revenge of the uneducated. They put everybody at the same level, in here people who would never be at the same platform in real life exchange with each other. Here a guy whom is not qualified to be your student would act as if he were at your level or superior to you. People say the dumbest argument and keep on going as if they were some secret geniuses. Many in here obey a logic which is unknown to educated people.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:01pm On Aug 16
Gbadebo19:

You are mixing it up. We are not talking about books as sources of law, but rather about admissibility of evidence.

The book we're talking about is the Bible and its contents being used as proof to negate the claim of israel's occupation

This is a non-starter and no real lawyer would even bring this up

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:02pm On Aug 16
Stoplying:
Social media, especially nairaland, are the revenge of the uneducated. They put everybody at the same level, in here people who would never be at the same platform in real life exchange with each other. Here a guy whom is not qualified to be your student would act as if he were at your level or superior to you. People say the dumbest argument and keep on going as if they were some secret geniuses. Many in here obey a logic which is unknown to educated people.

I agree ๐Ÿ’ฏ

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:13pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


The book we're talking about is the Bible and its contents being used as proof to negate the claim of israel's occupation

This is a non-starter and no real lawyer would even bring this up
I don't even understand you anymore.
I based my position of Israel not being an occupying country on the fact that the name Palestine was made up by Hadrian, a Roman emperor in order to wipe out all traces of Jewish history in a place originally known as Judea. That is a position supported by several scholars, it is not in the Bible. You were the one who brought up Bible matter when the argument digressed into whether books are admissible as evidence or not.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by BoldBrainz(m): 4:13pm On Aug 16
Stoplying:
Social media, especially nairaland, are the revenge of the uneducated. They put everybody at the same level, in here people who would never be at the same platform in real life exchange with each other. Here a guy whom is not qualified to be your student would act as if he were at your level or superior to you. People say the dumbest argument and keep on going as if they were some secret geniuses. Many in here obey a logic which is unknown to educated people.

Absolutely not me sitting here and watching that supposed Lawyer confidently arguing that religious books are admissible as evidential notes in Court cases๐Ÿ˜‚.

Just when the argument is about to fall on his head, he twists like a python trying to shed an old skin layer and conjures up another line of absurdity.

Whoever paid that boy's fees to go study Law in the University, should rather have invested those finances in a poultry business. Nigga wears ignorance with an abundance of confidence that beggars pity and disbelief.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 4:16pm On Aug 16
Gbadebo19:

"Genetically" according to the research carried out in your grandfather's compound abi. Let's even assume you are right. Is it not Jews killing Jews? Why are you now foaming in the mouth?
@ the bold
The reader or guest :Don't be surprised,it is the absence of home training, but don't worry I will transfer his case to schoolboi as soon as possible
Google is your friends

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:17pm On Aug 16
Stoplying:
Social media, especially nairaland, are the revenge of the uneducated. They put everybody at the same level, in here people who would never be at the same platform in real life exchange with each other. Here a guy whom is not qualified to be your student would act as if he were at your level or superior to you. People say the dumbest argument and keep on going as if they were some secret geniuses. Many in here obey a logic which is unknown to educated people.
On what basis do you classify yourself as educated? Even in the face of facts that challenge yours, you have refused to yield because you believe only your own sources are facts.
Information doesn't work that way.
Philosophically speaking, human beings on the most basic level believe information based on a existing bias.
You are not in anyway different from the people you argue with.
The concept of truth is a fallacy that doesn't exist.
That's why arguments should be for the sake of arguments not going ahead to cyber stalk.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 4:18pm On Aug 16
Ska333ko:
for the sake of argument

Thank you.

Now who is a Jew.


Is being Jewish an ethnicity or a religion.


Or is it both
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:27pm On Aug 16
Ska333ko:
@ the bold
The reader or guest :Don't be surprised,it is the absence of home training, but don't worry I will transfer his case to schoolboi as soon as possible
Google is your friends



No time to waste with people like you. An article without links is what suits your definition of research.
You can educate yourself here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#:~:text=Comparison%20of%20Jews%20and%20Palestinians,-See%20also%3A%20Genetic&text=Genetic%20studies%20on%20Jews%20have,was%20similar%20but%20not%20identical.
If you have any sense, as late as 2010, Palestinians are closer to Arabs.
As for your friend that you quoted, it is just a matter of time before that one lands in jail. When was the last time you saw his criminal accomplices respond here?

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:28pm On Aug 16
Gbadebo19:

I don't even understand you anymore.
I based my position of Israel not being an occupying country on the fact that the name Palestine was made up by Hadrian, a Roman emperor in order to wipe out all traces of Jewish history in a place originally known as Judea. That is a position supported by several scholars, it is not in the Bible. You were the one who brought up Bible matter when the argument digressed into whether books are admissible as evidence or not.

So International Law, the UN Charter, the ruling of the ICJ, the Internationally recognised borders of Palestine, International Humanitarian Law, International Human Rights Law, the records of the Bristish mandate on Palestine and the establishment of the state of israel, all don't matter because of your history lesson and personal opinion?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:36pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


So International Law, the UN Charter, the ruling of the ICJ, the Internationally recognised borders of Palestine, International Humanitarian Law, International Human Rights Law, the records of the Bristish mandate on Palestine and the establishment of the state of israel, all don't matter because of your history lesson and personal opinion?

๐Ÿ™†๐Ÿฟโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฟโ€โ™‚๏ธ
And did Israel not respect all of those prior to the relentless attacks from those regions? We don't need to argue back and forth on this now, Israel didn't go beyond its borders upon the establishment of Israel. Several attacks from those regions forced its hand.
For crying out loud, the preamble of the Hamas constitution is basically a destruction of Israel. What are we arguing self? You are just being sympathetic to a nation that is looking for any way possible to obliterate Israel but being currently unable to do so, is playing the victim. Refer to the image below.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:41pm On Aug 16
Majority of the people on this thread are just terrorists in the making.
How can a nation have the preamble of its constitution as the destruction of another nation and yet, in all your so called intelligence you believe they are innocent.
The targeted nation now puts up defensive posture and you term it as "occupation"
We will all die one day, but the hypocrisy here stinks.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 4:41pm On Aug 16
Lawag3:


Has hamas blown up a hospital in Gaza during this war yes or NO. I guess they did it on purpose.


Let me school you a little there are war zones and humanitarian zones in Gaza. In you stroll into the war zone you may get mistaken for a Hamas operative why? Don't Hamas wear uniform.


No they don't. Could you please tell me why?

Let me give you a hint.
It's the same reason they operate form houses mosque schools and hospitals.



Why are Goyims always like this
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:48pm On Aug 16
Mr A and Mr B have built houses next to each other. The only thing Mr A teaches his children is how to kill and totally eliminate Mr Bs children and has even enacted a document to be passed on from generation to generation to that effect
Should Mr B stand still and watch?
Basic human reasoning answers No.
Mr A tries the first time and fails, as a result, Mr B occupies the verandah of his house and pushes him to the rooms. It goes on and on until Mr A is restricted to the backyard. Now, Mr A is claiming occupation.
Mr A is definitely a mad man.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 4:52pm On Aug 16
WrriterNg:


I fear the relationship between both countries have deteriorated beyond repair. It won't be like a Crimea kind of reunification.

Getting rid of spies won't cut it anymore.

Have you been to Taiwan social media spaces? They are taking cue from Ukraine and harboring the same hatred for China.

They no longer consider themselves as Chinese. This is what happens when you've been fed with non stop western propaganda for years.

There's no 'both countries " here, most of the world do not recognise Taiwan as an independent country, they're still seen as part of China.

When the west are put in their place, those encouraging divisions everywhere else but their region would have less influence over this issue.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by jjj37: 4:55pm On Aug 16
It's very embarrassing that a young man and his enablers, of mostly productive age could live and breathe on this platform since morning, arguing on imaginative things, replying themselves like lunatics, taking grudges and planning actions offline that do not even tally with their reputations here online.. If i may ask, is spending time online, arguing with people you mostly do not know, on issues you do not understand a prerequisite/criteria to becoming a usefull person in real life.?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:01pm On Aug 16
jjj37:
It's very embarrassing that a young man and his enablers, of mostly productive age could live and breathe on this platform since morning, arguing on imaginative things, replying themselves like lunatics, taking grudges and planning actions offline that do not even tally with their reputations here online.. If i may ask, is spending time online, arguing with people mostly you do not know, on issues you do not know a prerequisite/criteria to becoming usefull in real life.?

This thread is one of the most qualitative threads on Nairaland, with the most substance and there's a gameplan to rubbish it with half-assed takes on issues.
All who have been enlightened by this thread owe it a defense and the upkeep of its value

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Raynald: 5:02pm On Aug 16
I enjoyed the past 3 pages
It was educative
And I think Zelenksky knew all this risk
I heard there is a nuclear power plant close to the border
Maybe that's his aim
I think if Ukrainians capture that,they finally have something reasonably to negotiate with
Cause if not,what the hell is he doing,cause no way Russia will negotiate with them cause they captured sudza

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 5:13pm On Aug 16
โšกBig Boys:

Russia unveils Motylek drone, carrying 250 kg FAB-250 aerial bomb.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 5:15pm On Aug 16
IMEI:


This thread is one of the most qualitative threads on Nairaland, with the most substance and there's a gameplan to rubbish it with half-assed takes on issues.
All who have been enlightened by this thread owe it a defense and the upkeep of its value

Right?


Because where are all these new monikers wrecking havoc on this thread popping up from?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:24pm On Aug 16
WrriterNg:


Right?


Because where are all these new monikers wrecking havoc on this thread popping up from?

They mostly popped up after Nairaland's crash and reboot and are mostly clones...Viciously pro-west and pro-israel

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 5:26pm On Aug 16
Lawag3:



Are Palestinians Hebrews/ Jew or Arab.


Smart man answer that question.


Anyway what you said is just speculation.


Palestinians and Jews are related though. Even if the Jew also has european ancestry along side his Jewish ancestry.
don't forget that you've not solved the issue of how himars operates

I'm not speculating, I'm a man of fact, maybe David Ben guriong was also speculating

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