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Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 10:12am On Aug 16
Differences between the Gods of religion and Olodumare of Yoruba spirituality.

Olodumare has 400 deputies and takes only peer reviewed decisions unlike Allah that has no peers.

Olodumare like a true CEO or King never stands up to do anything by itself unlike Allah that has no need for helpers. It and not He or she is used because spirits do not have gender in heaven but only have gender of current or last incarnation.

Olodumare unlike Jehovah is not omniscient. Olodumare is a spirit and spirits only have access to all knowledge known to all human beings dead or alive and not more than that. They can liaise with each other to get any needed knowledge but what has never been known to any human being at all is not known to any irunmale or spirit so far Earth is concerned.

Olodumare unlike Jehovah and Allah is not a jealous being. It has peers and those peers just like Olodumare are spirits of ancestors that can be worshiped by those on Earth that are their children.

Olodumare does not forgive people their sins as you have to sort yourself out with who you offended by Olodumare’s rules.


Note

According to my IFA research, only a mature spirit with last or current incarnation as female can enter the God grid and once you enter the God grid you will remain inside for three hundred years during all of which you can only incarnate as female. There are tens of thousands of spirits inside the God grid and there are also millions of unincarnated spirits in the grid as well.
Therefore if Olodumare has a gender, that gender is female but spirits do not really have gender. However the roles they play in heaven in relation to Earth is determined by the gender of their last or current incarnation.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 10:18am On Aug 16
lawani:
Differences between the Gods of religion and Olodumare of Yoruba spirituality.

Olodumare has 400 deputies and takes only peer reviewed decisions unlike Allah that has no peers.

Olodumare like a true CEO or King never stands up to do anything by itself unlike Allah that has no need for helpers. It and not He or she is used because spirits do not have gender in heaven but only have gender of current or last incarnation.

Olodumare unlike Jehovah is not omniscient. Olodumare is a spirit and spirits only have access to all knowledge known to all human beings dead or alive and not more than that. They can liaise with each other to get any needed knowledge but what has never been known to any human being at all is not known to any irunmale or spirit so far Earth is concerned.

Olodumare unlike Jehovah and Allah is not a jealous being. It has peers and those peers just like Olodumare are spirits of ancestors that can be worshiped by those on Earth that are their children.

Olodumare does not forgive people their sins as you have to sort yourself out with who you offended by Olodumare’s rules.


Note

According to my IFA research, only a mature spirit with last or current incarnation as female can enter the God grid and once you enter the God grid you will remain inside for three hundred years during all of which you can only incarnate as female. There are tens of thousands of spirits inside the God grid and there are also millions of unincarnated spirits in the grid as well.
Therefore if Olodumare has a gender, that gender is female but spirits do not really have gender. However the roles they play in heaven in relation to Earth is determined by the gender of their last or current incarnation.

How did you get all this information?
Does Olodumare have a book that we can read to get to know him?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 11:50am On Aug 16
Michael547:

How did you get all this information?
Does Olodumare have a book that we can read to get to know him?
God does not write books. Only human beings do that. My book will hopefully come out before the end of 2024 and many things will be explained therein. I got my information via IFA divination
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:02pm On Aug 16
lawani:

God does not write books. Only human beings do that. My book will hopefully come out before the end of 2024 and many things will be explained therein. I got my information via IFA divination

With the highlighted you mean each person is free to write whatever they feel about your Olodumare, right?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 1:25pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:


With the highlighted you mean each person is free to write whatever they feel about your Olodumare, right?

Yes, people are free to write as they are free to speak. It is when they say they must not be peer reviewed that we can have problems.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:39pm On Aug 16
lawani:
Yes, people are free to write as they are free to speak. It is when they say they must not be peer reviewed that we can have problems.

What does the highlighted means? undecided
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 1:49pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:


What does the highlighted means? undecided
Any written work that is not a holy book can be peer reviewed and discredited or upheld as is the case with any academic submission since the writers are just human beings.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:03pm On Aug 16
lawani:
Any written work that is not a holy book can be peer reviewed and discredited or upheld as is the case with any academic submission since the writers are just human beings.
So how do we ascertain the holy book that is authentic so that we can all uphold it and submit to what is written in it? undecided
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 3:31pm On Aug 16
lawani:

God does not write books. Only human beings do that. My book will hopefully come out before the end of 2024 and many things will be explained therein. I got my information via IFA divination
You mean Ifa has been communicating with only you?
If no, why do you need to write a book?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 3:39pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:

So how do we ascertain the holy book that is authentic so that we can all uphold it and submit to what is written in it? undecided
All holy books are dangerous books that turn human beings into what God never intended. Dont take anyone's word for it that any written work is above peer review. There is nothing written by a human being or a group of human beings that is above peer review.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 3:44pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

You mean Ifa has been communicating with only you?
If no, why do you need to write a book?
Ifa is a spirit language. It does not communicate with only me. Any qualified babalawo can communicate with the spirit world via ifa.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 3:51pm On Aug 16
lawani:
Ifa is a spirit language. It does not communicate with only me. Any qualified babalawo can communicate with the spirit world via ifa.
Alright.....why do you need to write a book?
Did the spirit ask you to do that?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:14pm On Aug 16
lawani:
All holy books are dangerous books that turn human beings into what God never intended. Dont take anyone's word for it that any written work is above peer review. There is nothing written by a human being or a group of human beings that is above peer review.
What and what are the expected results of this PEER REVIEW?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 4:29pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

Alright.....why do you need to write a book?
Did the spirit ask you to do that?
The world has been turned upside down with 'holy books' and they are said to be unquestionable. They have gotten people hypnotized with threats of damnation and etc for people that attempt to peer review those books. It is high time we rise against religion by approaching spirituality academically and that is what i am doing with my upcoming book.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 4:33pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:

So how do we ascertain the holy book that is authentic so that we can all uphold it and submit to what is written in it? undecided
you dont get the point. HOLY BOOKS ARE DEMONIC. That is the point.

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Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 4:41pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:

What and what are the expected results of this PEER REVIEW?
A UNANIMOUS DISCREDIT OF THE BIBLE AND THE QURAN.

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Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:08pm On Aug 16
lawani:

Any written work that is NOT a holy book can be peer reviewed and discredited or upheld as is the case with any academic submission since the writers are just human beings.

lawani:

you dont get the point. HOLY BOOKS ARE DEMONIC. That is the point.


Please can you explain what you meant by the two highlighted?
First you said any written work that is NOT a holy book and now you're saying Holy books are demonic. What exactly are you trying to say? undecided

lawani:
A UNANIMOUS DISCREDIT OF THE BIBLE AND THE QURAN.

So your own personal Eledumare book should replace the Bible and Quran, right? undecided
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 5:16pm On Aug 16
lawani:
The world has been turned upside down with 'holy books' and they are said to be unquestionable. They have gotten people hypnotized with threats of damnation and etc for people that attempt to peer review those books. It is high time we rise against religion by approaching spirituality academically and that is what i am doing with my upcoming book.
So your book has nothing to do Ifa, It is targeted at other religious book?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 5:18pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:





Please can you explain what you meant by the two highlighted?
First you said any written work that is NOT a holy book and now you're saying Holy books are demonic. What exactly are you trying to say? undecided



So your own personal Eledumare book should replace the Bible and Quran, right? undecided
I will not put caveats of damnation of unbelievers in my books. It will not be a holy book. It is a consciousness descent for anybody to adopt a holy book.

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Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 5:25pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

So your book has nothing to do Ifa, It is targeted at other religious book?
My book is about ifa and i used ifa to answer several questions about human existence but i am not claiming my positions are absolute truths. My book is not a holy book but an academic submission.

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Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:28pm On Aug 16
lawani:
I will not put caveats of damnation of unbelievers in my books. It will not be a holy book. It is a consciousness descent for anybody to adopt a holy book.
So it's just your own book and nothing more.

Thanks! smiley
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 5:56pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:

So it's just your own book and nothing more.

Thanks! smiley
But why do you need teleguidance?. Learn as an adult to be critical of every conclusion. That is how to live to the full as a human being. Why are you short changing yourself sir? Buddha specifically told his followers not to not take any of his submissions as absolute truth

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Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 6:15pm On Aug 16
lawani:
My book is about ifa and i used ifa to answer several questions about human existence but i am not claiming my positions are absolute truths. My book is not a holy book but an academic submission.
Do you mean that Ifa has not revealed the absolute truth to you since you communicate directly with Ifa through divination?

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Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 6:16pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:





Please can you explain what you meant by the two highlighted?
First you said any written work that is NOT a holy book and now you're saying Holy books are demonic. What exactly are you trying to say? undecided



So your own personal Eledumare book should replace the Bible and Quran, right? undecided
holy books are demonic because how else do you explain a book containing all sorts of self contradictory nonesense that has been used to justify the senseless killings of millions being touted as the word of God?. Christianity and islam are just new excuses or more reasons for human beings to hate and kill themselves. Is there any thing of value they added to human civilization?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 6:18pm On Aug 16
lawani:
holy books are demonic because how else do you explain a book containing all sorts of self contradictory nonesense that has been used to justify the senseless killings of millions being touted as the word of God?. Christianity and islam are just new excuses or more reasons for human beings to hate and kill themselves. Is there any thing of value they added to human civilization?
Do you mean that Jesus taught people to kill and hate other people?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 6:20pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

Do you mean that Ifa has not revealed the absolute truth to you since you communicate directly with Ifa through divination?
i am a scientist. I dont believe in absolute truths. Everything can be reviewed or updated.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 6:23pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

Do you mean that Jesus taught people to kill and hate other people?
JESUS WAS A FUNDAMENTALIST JEW WHO ASSOCIATED HIMSELF ONLY WITH JEWS AND NOT WITH GENTILES. HE WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. PAUL WAS THE FIRST CHRISTIAN WHO STARTED CONVERTING GENTILES. Jesus was a poor homeless jewish nationalist who lived during the first century. He was blown out of proportion by christianity
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 6:51pm On Aug 16
lawani:
JESUS WAS A FUNDAMENTALIST JEW WHO ASSOCIATED HIMSELF ONLY WITH JEWS AND NOT WITH GENTILES. HE WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. PAUL WAS THE FIRST CHRISTIAN WHO STARTED CONVERTING GENTILES. Jesus was a poor homeless jewish nationalist who lived during the first century. He was blown out of proportion by christianity
Ok....Did Jesus teach people to hate and kill others?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 6:53pm On Aug 16
lawani:
i am a scientist. I dont believe in absolute truths. Everything can be reviewed or updated.
Are you saying that Instructions coming directly from Ifa through you should be reviewed and updated?

Are you saying that some of Ifa's Instructions may not be correct?

By what standards should we who do not hear from Ifa review Ifa's Instructions through you?
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 7:10pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

Ok....Did Jesus teach people to hate and kill others?
he himself acted violently in the bible when he beat people out of the synagogue. He preached something like pacifism of love your enemies which he himself did not follow since he never forgave a repentant Judas iscariot. He condemned him to perdition. However the question is not what jesus preached but what christianity brought to humanity. Crusades, inquisitions, divisions among peoples and what have you. That is the issue
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by lawani: 7:15pm On Aug 16
Michael547:

Are you saying that Instructions coming directly from Ifa through you should be reviewed and updated?

Are you saying that some of Ifa's Instructions may not be correct?

By what standards should we who do not hear from Ifa review Ifa's Instructions through you?
anybody can become a Babalawo within a few years and laymen dont peer review works in any field of the academia. However in the academia once your public position is that your work can not be peer reviewed, that work is more or less automatically discredited.
Re: Differences Between The Gods Of Religion And Olodumare Of Yoruba Spirituality. by Michael547(m): 7:29pm On Aug 16
lawani:
anybody can become a Babalawo within a few years and laymen dont peer review works in any field of the academia. However in the academia once your public position is that your work can not be peer reviewed, that work is more or less automatically discredited.
So you mean only babalawos can actually review your writings?

Has any babalawo written about Ifa prior to you?

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