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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:22pm On Aug 16
achorladey:



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They are masters at revising lies. Revisionist grin grin grin

they certainly are smiley

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:29pm On Aug 16
I914 the year of freedom! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:31pm On Aug 16
MaxInDHouse:
1914!

MaxInDHouse: In the year 1914 Jesus returned to restructure his group! smiley

MaxInDHouse: Jesus and the year 1914!

MaxInDHouse: Jesus returned to restructure his group in the year 1914! smiley

^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences

lost false jw mad max

repeating the truth as Christians do is good
but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again as you false jw's do is mental disease, your habitual lying is of course of the devil, and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion and lies in many threads:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:46pm On Aug 16
1914 Jesus was enthroned in heaven! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 2:49am On Aug 17
MaxInDHouse:
1914 Jesus was enthroned in heaven! smiley

there are many false dates from you so called Jehovah's witnesses/false prophets,
another one:

Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).



lost false jw mad max
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38am On Aug 17
God's Kingdom was established in heaven in the year 1914!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 7:05am On Aug 17
MaxInDHouse:
God's Kingdom was established in heaven in the year 1914!

there are many false dates from you so called Jehovah's witnesses/false prophets,
here again is another one:

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).



lost false Jw mad max
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22am On Aug 17
johnw47:


there are many false dates from you so called Jehovah's witnesses/false prophets,
here again is another one:

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).



lost false Jw mad max


Are you ready to learn?
Because John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all his first century Jewish disciples were saying "the kingdom of God is at hand" some 2,000 years ago! Matthew 3:2; 4:17; 10:7

To Jews listening back then John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all their disciples were FALSE PROPHETS!

WHY?

Because they failed to listen CAREFULLY to the message instead they were focusing on how quickly God's kingdom will come to solve their problems and after some times even 99% of Jesus' disciples left him believing he has run mad for spewing gibberish after taking them to and fro all the districts of Judea telling them lies that God's Kingdom is at hand yet no kingdom came! John 6:66

So if you want to know what all these things means calm down and learn because God's people did not just started talking about God's Kingdom in recent times it began some 2,000 years with John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and thousands of Christians all saying:

The kingdom of the heavens is at hand (close by)

Yet this is year 2,024 they are still saying it so it's not just about Jehovah's Witnesses but what the true God commanded all His servants like John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Jewish Christians and their modern day brothers known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES to continue preaching and teaching globally!

Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23am On Aug 17
Jesus was enthroned as king of God's Kingdom in the year 1914!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:25am On Aug 17
MaxInDHouse:
Are you ready to learn?
Because John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all his first century Jewish disciples were saying "the kingdom of God is at hand" some 2,000 years ago! Matthew 3:2; 4:17; 10:7
To Jews listening back then John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all their disciples were FALSE PROPHETS!
WHY?
Because they failed to listen CAREFULLY to the message instead they were focusing on how quickly God's kingdom will come to solve their problems and after some times even 99% of Jesus' disciples left him believing he has run mad for spewing gibberish after taking them to and fro all the districts of Judea telling them lies that God's Kingdom is at hand yet no kingdom came! John 6:66
So if you want to know what all these things means calm down and learn because God's people did not just started talking about God's Kingdom in recent times it began some 2,000 years with John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and thousands of Christians all saying:
The kingdom of the heavens is at hand (close by)
Yet this is year 2,024 they are still saying it so it's not just about Jehovah's Witnesses but what the true God commanded all His servants like John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Jewish Christians and their modern day brothers known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES to continue preaching and teaching globally!

lost false jw mad max

many jews back then thought Jesus and john etc. were false prophets
they still do, and as much as you would like to show that Jesus and john etc. are false prophets, you and the jews are wrong

however you false jw's have been false prophets since you became a sect, that is true



you are still posting idols(pictures) of your idols(other false jw's) of course

Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45am On Aug 17
johnw47:

many jews back then thought Jesus and john etc. were false prophets
they still do,
So your repetitive claims regarding FALSE PROPHETS is out of place! wink
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:07pm On Aug 17
MaxInDHouse:

So your repetitive claims regarding FALSE PROPHETS is out of place! wink

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

oh duh very confused and dum lost false jw mad max

of course you love to think of Jesus as a false prophet, just like you say He is a deceiver
but your false jw sect certainly are false prophets, having made many false prophecies and setting many dates
that didn't come to fruition

here is some, let me know if you want more:

Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).

Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5)

The Last Days began 1799 (The Harp of God, 1928 ed., p. 235–36, 239).


1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1Jn_4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

^^ the false prophet spirits have been tested, and they have been found to be:
paranoid, liars, blasphemers, mentally unstable, etc.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:56am On Aug 18
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was enthroned as king of God's Kingdom in the year 1914!

there are many false dates from you so called Jehovah's witnesses/false prophets,
another one:

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).


Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1Jn_4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

^^ the false prophet spirits have been tested, and they have been found to be:
paranoid, liars, blasphemers, mentally unstable, etc.


lost false jw mad max

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:38am On Aug 18
Are you working with Jesus today?
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 8:23am On Aug 18
MaxInDHouse:
Are you working with Jesus today?

says lost fraud jw mad max who believes so much revolves around 1914
while other false jw's say differently:

Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5)


Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1Jn_4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

^^ the false prophet spirits have been tested, and they have been found to be:
paranoid, liars, blasphemers, mentally unstable, etc.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MightySparrow: 8:48am On Aug 18
johnw47:


there are many false dates from you so called Jehovah's witnesses/false prophets,
another one:

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).


Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1Jn_4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

^^ the false prophet spirits have been tested, and they have been found to be:
paranoid, liars, blasphemers, mentally unstable, etc.


lost false jw mad max

The gray matter of these folks has been replaced with pap.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25am On Aug 18
Are you working with Jesus today? smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:39am On Aug 18
MightySparrow:


The gray matter of these folks has been replaced with pap.

you can say that again smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:43am On Aug 18
MaxInDHouse:
Are you working with Jesus today? smiley

lost false jw mad max, you a false prophet etc. etc. are not, that's for sure


watchtower lies to everyone including so called Jehovah's witnesses, read on

jwfacts dot com

1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy
One of the most misleading statements in Watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the “start” of the conclusion of this system of things. Rather, Watchtower falsely predicted 1914 to be the “end” of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the earthly paradise.

It is important to know what Watchtower preached would happen in the years leading up to and including 1914, and compare this with what it now claims was said.

What Watchtower said
prior to 1914

"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226


What Watchtower claims it said
prior to 1914

"The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8

The contradictory statements above help identify two critical facts:

1. Watchtower falsely predicted this system would end in 1914
2. Watchtower is not entirely honest about its history
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Aug 18
Are you working with Jesus today? smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Aug 18
In the year 1914 Jesus returned! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:29pm On Aug 18
MaxInDHouse:
In the year 1914 Jesus returned! smiley

lost false jw mad max

re 1914 etc, you false jw prophets are all on different pages, of course


Governing Body member Samuel Herd makes the statement in Watchtower's 2016 documentary The Kingdom 100 Years and Counting;

"At the kingdom's birth in 1914, the Bible Students were not exactly sure what was going to happen, but they knew it would be a pivotal year."

This is a fabrication, as Watchtower was dogmatic as to exactly what was going to occur in 1914. Expectations for 1914 were forcefully presented as fact, as shown in the following quotes.

● "the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest" Thy Kingdom Come (1911 ed.) p.228
● "the Day of Vengeance ... will end in October, 1914" The Day of Vengeance p.547
● "the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination" The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.) page 77
- page 78
● "we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun" The Time Is At Hand (1889 ed.) p.101
● "we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99
● "October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon" Watch Tower 1911 Jun 15 p.190 (reprints p.4842)
● "Christendom, will have passed away, as already shown in prophecy." Thy Kingdom Come (1891 ed.) p.153

The early followers were as convinced they knew what was going to happen in 1914 as current followers are convinced the Great Tribulation and Armageddon will come at any moment, resulting in the destruction of all worldly people. This is because the same manipulative terminology used prior to 1914 is still used in Watchtower publications to this day.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:08am On Aug 19
In the year 1914 Jesus returned! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:27am On Aug 19
the mentally unstable believe false prophets:

1914 is the pivotal date for the existence of Jehovah's Witnesses, currently explained as the date:

● the Gentile times ended
● Jesus started ruling in heaven
● the Last Days began

1914 is the basis for the interpretation of the majority of other Bible prophecies. Most importantly, this was the time during which Jesus is said to have come to inspect and cleanse the Watchtower Society, resulting in Jesus choosing it in 1919 to be the only organization he works though in our time, and the only means of salvation.

The current understanding is significantly different to the original teachings. Prior to 1914, the Watchtower believed:

● The Last Days began 1799
● Jesus Parousia started 1874
● Jesus started ruling in heaven in 1878
● The Gentile Times would end in 1914, resulting in the:
○ end of Armageddon
○ fall of false religion
○ end of all earthly governments
○ heavenly and earthly resurrections
○ paradise on earth

The 1914 doctrine has changed by necessity, and continued to change in the twenty first century, as it has been falsified by the progression of history. It has progressed from:

1. The last days started in 1799, ending in 1914.
2. The last days started in 1914, ending within a single lifetime/generation of those born prior to 1914.
3. The last days started in 1914, with an unspecified ending, after a period of an "overlapping generation."

The ability of the Watchtower to accurately foretell the meaning of 1914 is a great source of faith for Jehovah's Witnesses, unaware of what Watchtower said prior to 1914. Nothing Russell said about 1914 came to pass. For Russell and early Watchtower followers, the 2nd of October 1914 was expected to be the the conclusion of this system of things.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:54pm On Aug 19
Jesus returned in the year 1914! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:48pm On Aug 19
The Gentile times have ended, How we clapped our hands < funny

“Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, “Good morning, all.” But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: “The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day.” “How we clapped our hands!” exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: “We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward—but of course there was nothing like that, really.” Sister Merrill adds: “After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I’m not. Everything is moving right on schedule!’ Again we clapped our hands.”” Yearbook 1975 pp.72,73

The expectation was 1914 would see the final end of worldly kingdoms, replaced by God's Kingdom fully established on earth.

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99

From the 1911 edition forward, this quote gave an additional year for these events to be fully accomplished, extending to A.D.1915.
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:11pm On Aug 19
As with Freemasonry & Adventist, Russell used pyramidology

Russell's 1914-pyramid-chart below

Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:39am On Aug 20
1914
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:56am On Aug 20
Watchtower quotes prior to 1914
Russell taught that Jesus invisible presence began in 1874 and rulership in 1878.

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D.:" Studies in Scriptures Series - The Day of Vengeance (1897) p.621

The heavenly kingdom was shown Scripturally to begin before the end of the Gentile Times.

"But the kingdom of God is to be set up before the days of the Gentile end, for "in the days of theses kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom; and it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms" (Dan. 2:44)."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (Barbour & Russell, 1877) p.27

As shown at Freemasonry & Adventist Links, Russell used pyramidology to support this belief. (picture above)
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:35am On Aug 20
The year 1914!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:32pm On Aug 20
Prior to forming the Watchtower, Russell wrote that 1914 would see the end of all governments.

“… the seven times will end in A.D. 1914; when Jerusalem shall be delivered forever, and the Jew say of the Deliverer, “Lo, this is our God, we have waited for Him and He will save us.” When Gentile Governments shall have been dashed to pieces; when God shall have poured out of his fury upon the nation, and they acknowledge him, King of Kings and Lord of Lords.” Bible Examiner C. T. Russell Oct 1876

Russell originally was a follower of the teachings of Barbour, and together they co-authored works such as the 1877 book Three Worlds, and the Harvest of This World. After splitting from Barbour in June 1879, Russell began publishing the magazine Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence in July 1879. This became distinctly his own religion with the incorporation of the organization "Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society" shortly thereafter. Russell continued to publish many of the prophetic interpretations he had received from Barbour, as can be seen in what follows when comparing Three Worlds and Watchtower quotes.

1874 to 1914 were described as the greatest period of trouble in human history, the period of Armageddon itself, with the end of trouble to be in 1914.
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:01am On Aug 21
In the year 1914 God gave Jesus the scepter!

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