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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Wainey: 4:03pm On Aug 17, 2024
Ojiofor:


You want ndi Igbo to present angels as candidate while you support Anini and Osunbor from your tribe to become president of Nigeria.Are you kidding me? Is Tinubu the best Yoruba can offer?A drug lord and certificate forger according to his criminal records both in Nigeria and in US.
he is better than obi

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 4:03pm On Aug 17, 2024
Ojiofor:


You want ndi Igbo to present angels as candidate while you support Anini and Osunbor from your tribe to become president of Nigeria.Are you kidding me? Is Tinubu the best Yoruba can offer?A drug lord and certificate forger according to his criminal records both in Nigeria and in US.
Don't mind the idiots abeg

They hate igbos but too much of cowards to openly admit it

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Softmirror: 4:03pm On Aug 17, 2024
Now they are praising Abacha. undecided

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 4:05pm On Aug 17, 2024
Wainey:
what did Ngozi Iweala say about Obi? Pls don't tarnish her fine image.
As for Reno, we are talking about competent character and not achievements also if u talk about achievements, he was a special adviser to a president. Duhhh
Who be this one?
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 4:05pm On Aug 17, 2024
Good question, thinking about his I believed that Igbos were focused on the PDP guaranteeing us the presidency and may not have even noticed how the presidency guarantee was not part of the (new at the time)1999 constitution.
When Obasanjo handed over to YaraDua it must have been a big betrayal to Igbos, who voted PDP because of their clause in the PDP constitution to rotate the presidency.

They even continued to religiously support PDP in 2019 when it selected Atiku but with Peter Obi as vice-president. I guess PDP failing to give the presidential ticket to Igbos in 2023 must have been the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
Salewa97:
Toh

Why are some of you always looking for scapegoat instead of facing the reality?

Where were the Igbo leaders in all this?
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 4:07pm On Aug 17, 2024
I would choose Abacha over Tinubu or even Obasanjo in a heartbeat!
Softmirror:
Now they are praising Abacha. undecided
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Wainey: 4:15pm On Aug 17, 2024
mrvitalis:

Ok... Compare reno n NOI is that even reasonable?

Same reno that praised Obi for years till he left PDP?
don't compare achievements, it doesn't mean u are winning, it's a sign of low intelligence, that is why u Igbo lose in everything, cos u love to measure shoulders.
Reno is a winner, Ngozi Iweala is also.
Reno didn't to Obi what he did to Buhari.
He has only criticized Obi so far and bring facts to defend his claim, in case of Buhari, Reno didn't just criticize but also insulted him and even went as far as called his cattle "homosexual cows"

And this was the time u all loved Reno, hypocrites

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by mrvitalis(m): 4:20pm On Aug 17, 2024
Wainey:
don't compare achievements, it doesn't mean u are winning, it's a sign of low intelligence, that is why u Igbo lose in everything, cos u love to measure shoulders.
Reno is a winner, Ngozi Iweala is also.
Reno didn't to Obi what he did to Buhari.
He has only criticized Obi so far and bring facts to defend his claim, in case of Buhari, Reno didn't just criticize but also insulted him and even went as far as called his cattle "homosexual cows"

And this was the time u all loved Reno, hypocrites
Igbos lose at everything? Mehn this is the last response you would ever see from me

You are not worth it

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by 9jatriot(m): 4:21pm On Aug 17, 2024
First of all, you inadvertently agree that you lied about Obj writing his own constitution for Nigeria.

In this new lie, you say Obj could have changed a constitution by inserting a section just to please you. Now, if you know how Nigeria is run presently, you would know that to change the constitution, you will have to go down up to the level of State Houses of Assembly of the 36 states before anything can be done, yet you want Obj to just go to his bedroom and edit the constitution just to make you happy.

OALandAgents:
Obasanjo as the president elect had ample time to insist on introducing Abacha's 1995 draft constitution instead of the hurriedly re-hatched 1979 constitution that was presented and implemented as the 1999 constitution.
Do not make it seem that Obasanjo had no say, after all he made some amendments to the 1999 constitution throughout his tenure but still failed to introduce the presidency guarantee for each geopolitical zone.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Ojiofor: 4:22pm On Aug 17, 2024
mrvitalis:

Don't mind the idiots abeg

They hate igbos but too much of cowards to openly admit it

Once Igbo is involved they will set certain standards they do not set for themselves.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by PressMyButton: 4:23pm On Aug 17, 2024
mrvitalis:

I started supporting Obi after he defeated Osibanjo in the vice presidential debate

If you show me any attack on obi from me after that date you get 100k

You want igbos to present a saint

But u all supported Buhari and tinubu?
Lmaooo
After he defeated Osinbajo in a VP debate?, who scored the debate?, where's the official poll results?, you no even dey fear?, that 3rd class olodo defeated a complete genius?, was it his fake statistics that swept you off your feet?, Lol. Guy you need a correct slap.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Ojiofor: 4:25pm On Aug 17, 2024
Wainey:
he is better than obi

In your dreams.
That he snatched and run away with electoral victory does not mean he is better than Obi.Only in Nigeria will someone of Tinubu badly damaged criminal character will come out to contest an election talkless of winning.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by 9jatriot(m): 4:25pm On Aug 17, 2024
Do not let them sell you a big lie by hiding it inside many statements so that it sounds like the truth.

The first question you should ask that fellow was in what debate did Obi defeat Osingbajo? Man to man, starboy diismattled Obi when he was using container economics to try to explain macro and micro economics.

Even then, upon further review, it was noticed that many of the statistics that Obi was churning out, turned out to either be outright lies or at best lambas.
Wainey:
defeating Osinbajo doesn't automatically mean he is better than Tinubu.
We have heard of his records as a governor and it wasn't pleasant.
As bad as Tinubu is, there are people that still talked good about him, but no single person talked good about Obi.
Obi could be a good debater but his he is zero in actual governance, talking is cheap, action nai be the real blood.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by 9jatriot(m): 4:28pm On Aug 17, 2024
God bless you, I have not even seen your response before I made mine. @ Wainey, please do not allow that particular fellow to gaslight you.

PressMyButton:

After he defeated Osinbajo in a VP debate?, who scored the debate?, where's the official poll results?, you no even dey fear?, that 3rd class olodo defeated a complete genius?, was it his fake statistics that swept you off your feet?, Lol. Guy you need a correct slap.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Wainey: 4:31pm On Aug 17, 2024
Ojiofor:


In your dreams.
That he snatched and run away with electoral victory does not mean he is better than Obi.Only in Nigeria will someone of Tinubu badly damaged criminal character will come out to contest an election talkless of winning.
there was no evidence he snatched electoral victory.
It's just ur sentiment

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 4:34pm On Aug 17, 2024
Did Obj try to amend the 1999 constitution to insert the guarantee presidency and failed? No!

If you are the new president when a new constitution is introduced, you cannot pretend that you have no power to choose what the constitution that is being introduced with your presidency is like.

You really believe that the military generals who selected Obasanjo, never got his input on abandoning Abacha's draft constitution and replacing it with the 1999 constitution that gives Igbos no guarantee of the presidency? Is that what you think?
9jatriot:
First of all, you inadvertently agree that you lied about Obj writing his own constitution for Nigeria.

In this new lie, you say Obj could have changed a constitution by inserting a section just to please you. Now, if you know how Nigeria is run presently, you would know that to change the constitution, you will have to go down up to the level of State Houses of Assembly of the 36 states before anything can be done, yet you want Obj to just go to his bedroom and edit the constitution just to make you happy.

Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Ojiofor: 4:38pm On Aug 17, 2024
Wainey:
there was no evidence he snatched electoral victory.
It's just ur sentiment

Just like Chicago university found no evidence he forged certificate even though he graduated from non existing Government College Lagos in 1970.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Wainey: 4:44pm On Aug 17, 2024
Ojiofor:


Just like Chicago university found no evidence he forged certificate even though he graduated from non existing Government College Lagos in 1970.
that's still ur sentiment, Chicago university confirmed he graduated

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Munamu: 4:57pm On Aug 17, 2024
OALandAgents:
Many igbos online are not aware of even recent Nigerian history.

If Obj makes any small gesture that appear to support any candidate or cause that Igbos support , we Igbos would start hailing Obasanjo to high heavens, not realising that he is the main reason that we have yet to have a guarantee of an Igbo being president.

You see, General Abacha when he was poisoned in 1998 was just weeks away from introducing a new constitution which would have guaranteed an Igbo presidency.

The constitution (1995 draft constitution) that Abacha was about to implement, provided that each of the country's 6 geopolitical zones would get the presidency on a rotational basis.

Obasanjo jettisoned this draft constitution when he became president in 1999 and introduce our current 1999 constitution, which gives no guarantees for Igbos to get the presidency. At the end of his presidency, Obasanjo handed power to YaraDua (Northerner) and his VP Jonathan(SS).

Today Obasanjo could and often makes cheap speeches and gestures that seem supportive of Igbo aspirations or views and ignorant Igbos youths would hail him.





So it is obasanjo that introduced 1999 constitution Abi? Oga pls face your okrika business and stop spreading ffake news grin

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Munamu: 4:58pm On Aug 17, 2024
OALandAgents:
Many igbos online are not aware of even recent Nigerian history.

If Obj makes any small gesture that appear to support any candidate or cause that Igbos support , we Igbos would start hailing Obasanjo to high heavens, not realising that he is the main reason that we have yet to have a guarantee of an Igbo being president.

You see, General Abacha when he was poisoned in 1998 was just weeks away from introducing a new constitution which would have guaranteed an Igbo presidency.

The constitution (1995 draft constitution) that Abacha was about to implement, provided that each of the country's 6 geopolitical zones would get the presidency on a rotational basis.

Obasanjo jettisoned this draft constitution when he became president in 1999 and introduce our current 1999 constitution, which gives no guarantees for Igbos to get the presidency. At the end of his presidency, Obasanjo handed power to YaraDua (Northerner) and his VP Jonathan(SS).

Today Obasanjo could and often makes cheap speeches and gestures that seem supportive of Igbo aspirations or views and ignorant Igbos youths would hail him.





So it is obasanjo that introduced 1999 constitution Abi? Oga pls face your okrika business

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Ojiofor: 4:59pm On Aug 17, 2024
Wainey:
that's still ur sentiment, Chicago university confirmed he graduated

It is a fact because the collage he claimed to have graduated in 1970 was created in 1974, isn't that a clear fraud to you?

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by gawu1: 5:01pm On Aug 17, 2024
franchasofficia:
We Igbos do not carry grudges for too long especially when a former Igbo hater or antagonist realizes his or her mistake and turns a new leaf, we forgive and move on.


Obasanjo must have realized his mistakes of seeing Igbos as the bad guys and wanted to correct his lifelong mistakes before he returns back to his maker, just like Theophilus Danjuma and many other retired Northern Generals except the Satan of Daura Buhari who swore to carry his hatred for Igbos to his grave undecided


So leave OBJ alone bra
How is Buhari sworn enemy of Igbo?
Buhari twice made Igbo men his vice in two occasion he pursued his presidential ambition before he won at the last attempt. At each of these attempt the Igbo refused to vote for him. The truth is that if they had voted for him that would have been the shortest way to realization of Igbo presidency. If Igbo were his sworn, do you think he would have even attempted to make them his vice? Rather, the fact shows that the Igbo have decided to make Buhari their sworn enemy for reasons known among the Igbo themselves.
You can't hate someone but expect him to love you back.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by naijapips04: 5:11pm On Aug 17, 2024
franchasofficia:
We Igbos do not carry grudges for too long especially when a former Igbo hater or antagonist realizes his or her mistake and turns a new leaf, we forgive and move on.


Obasanjo must have realized his mistakes of seeing Igbos as the bad guys and wanted to correct his lifelong mistakes before he returns back to his maker, just like Theophilus Danjuma and many other retired Northern Generals except the Satan of Daura Buhari who swore to carry his hatred for Igbos to his grave undecided


So leave OBJ alone bra

Speak for yourself uchu. Obasanjo ensured we will never have an Igbo presidency again in 2023 by fronting Peter Obi. He worked for Tinubu as it is clear now

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Tunde835(m): 8:00pm On Aug 17, 2024
Igbos don suffer for Nigeria they neva smell presidency. Even vice presidency they miss road while Yorubas have been president twice and vice president once. It's mostly Yoruba and Hausa that are draging presidency.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by blacknp(m): 8:06pm On Aug 17, 2024
OALandAgents:
Obasanjo as the president elect had ample time to insist on introducing Abacha's 1995 draft constitution instead of the hurriedly re-hatched 1979 constitution that was presented and implemented as the 1999 constitution.
Do not make it seem that Obasanjo had no say, after all he made some amendments to the 1999 constitution throughout his tenure but still failed to introduce the presidency guarantee for each geopolitical zone.
Obasanjo as the president elect had ample time to insist on introducing Abacha's 1995 draft constitution instead of the hurriedly re-hatched 1979 constitution that was presented and implemented as the 1999 constitution.

He should implement the draft constitution of same Sani Abacha that incarcerated him?

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by blacknp(m): 8:08pm On Aug 17, 2024
naijapips04:


Speak for yourself uchu. Obasanjo ensured we will never have an Igbo presidency again in 2023 by fronting Peter Obi. He worked for Tinubu as it is clear now
Spot on, blood is thicker than water, let franchasofficia be deceiving itself.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Abagworo(m): 8:10pm On Aug 17, 2024
Obasanjo killed the Igbo chances by replacing Odili with Jonathan as Yar'adua deputy. However it only postponed it by giving the Southern minority a chance which Igbos also supported.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by blacknp(m): 8:12pm On Aug 17, 2024
Abagworo:
Obasanjo killed the Igbo chances by replacing Odili with Jonathan as Yar'adua deputy. However it only postponed it by giving the Southern minority a chance which Igbos also supported.
In their mumurism for Pdp, Obasanjo was aware, that was why he didn’t choose an Igbo man as Yaradua’s running mate.

The old papa hypocrite had the chance to correct his wrongs, but he failed again in his self righteousness.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by AntiMarxist: 8:18pm On Aug 17, 2024
So the only way you think you can get your tribal candidate is through zoning ?

And afterwards you will say that's democratic ?

Citing being victims of tribalism and demanding full tribalism to assume the seat of power exposes how daft you sound.


This is how your politicians both in the PDP and APC were demanding for the ticket to be zoned to you guys.


If you think anyone will just hand you power because it is your turn as you claim, then you are all heavily delusional.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Max24: 9:37pm On Aug 17, 2024
Time to cancell baba obj by Obidients. From Oba of Benin it's now the turn of OBJ. Fingers crossed !

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 10:29pm On Aug 17, 2024
In a political system that operates tribalism, enshrining rotational presidency in the constitution is a very reasonable way to ensure every geopolitical zone gets a fair opportunity to hold the presidency.
AntiMarxist:
So the only way you think you can get your tribal candidate is through zoning ?

And afterwards you will say that's democratic ?

Citing being victims of tribalism and demanding full tribalism to assume the seat of power exposes how daft you sound.


This is how your politicians both in the PDP and APC were demanding for the ticket to be zoned to you guys.


If you think anyone will just hand you power because it is your turn as you claim, then you are all heavily delusional.

Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 10:35pm On Aug 17, 2024
It was not Abacha's draft constitution, rather it is Nigeria's draft constitution, that is why doing what is best for the country should be prioritize above personal squabbles and egos.
blacknp:

He should implement the draft constitution of same Sani Abacha that incarcerated him?

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