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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 10:41pm On Aug 17, 2024
1979-83 We had an Igbo as a vice president, in the person of the Late Alex Ekwueme which was in the Shehu Shagari civilian administration that Obasanjo's military regime handed power to.
Tunde835:
Igbos don suffer for Nigeria they neva smell presidency. Even vice presidency they miss road while Yorubas have been president twice and vice president once. It's mostly Yoruba and Hausa that are draging presidency.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 10:47pm On Aug 17, 2024
Because we are no good at playing politics . Other tribes strategize by build bridges and cutting deals amongst themselves and other tribes but we Igbos do not.
That is why I say we are politically immature and should perhaps just focus on ourselves , and our strengths to continue to dominate the business and commerce and leave politics for other tribes to control.
mrvitalis:

Igbos lose at everything? Mehn this is the last response you would ever see from me

You are not worth it
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 11:03pm On Aug 17, 2024
Yes his presidency introduced it and he had to have consented to it at the very least. He also never tried to reintroduce the rotational presidency in his several amendments of the constitution over his 8 year tenure.
Munamu:






So it is obasanjo that introduced 1999 constitution Abi? Oga pls face your okrika business and stop spreading ffake news grin
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Toosure70: 11:11pm On Aug 17, 2024
9jatriot:
Which kind lie be this? When exactly did Obj draft this new constitution?

If your lie lie write up is to be believed then what you are saying is that Obasanjo was sworn in with one constitution whereas he went on to create another constitution which only you and your whatsapp group know when it was done.

don't mind the dead brain

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 11:39pm On Aug 17, 2024
So you believe a president who enters office with a new constitution does not have any say in what is contained in that constitution?

Common now, let us use some common sense here!
Toosure70:
don't mind the dead brain
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by AntiMarxist: 12:41am On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
In a political system that operates tribalism, enshrining rotational presidency in the constitution is a very reasonable way to ensure every geopolitical zone gets a fair opportunity to hold the presidency.

Not going to work.

Best thing to do is return to regional governance using the existing 6 geopolitcal regions.

Go and develop and govern yourselves in your region using whatever resources you have instead of hoping on using the current centrist system selfishly.

The reason you guys are all crying for Ibo presidency shows how tribalistic your ambitions are.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by AntiMarxist: 12:44am On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
So you believe a president who enters office with a new constitution does not have any say in what is contained in that constitution?

Common now, let us use some common sense here!

You are being extremely annoying and irritating with this your atypical IPOB irrational daft conspiracy.

How and when did Obasanjo decide to single handedly edit and ammend the constitution ?

Were both the Legislature and judiciary that are also supposed to uphold the constitution sleeping ? What of the respective state assemblies and governors ?

You people always bring up daft and silly conspiracies.

Show us the original constitution that had provisions for rotational presidency.

You IPOB cretins have really reduced the quality of this forum with your stupid posts and threads .

The day you all fck off back to your Facebook IPOB group page , they better off this site will be.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Tunde835(m): 3:54am On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
1979-83 We had an Igbo as a vice president, in the person of the Late Alex Ekwueme which was in the Shehu Shagari civilian administration that Obasanjo's military regime handed power to.
I'm talking about 1999 demorcracy till date.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 4:43am On Aug 18, 2024
Comprehension seems to be your problem; Please carefully re-read my original post and try to comprehend.
I even mentioned or at least implied on this thread that IPOB is taking advantage Igbo youth ignorance and political immaturity to deceiving them. I detest IPOB and everything they stand for because they are deceiving the Igbo youths and do not mean well for Ndi Igbo as they claim and pretend to do.

I never said that Obasanjo single-handedly wrote the 1999 constitution, I do not have enough information to know, but I do know that no president would resume with a new constitution without making an input or at least agreeing with the constitution being introduced.

I also never claimed that Obasanjo single-handedly amended the constitution, but he did amend it severally during is 8 years tenure. He never tried to amend it to provide for rotational presidency that Abacha's 1995 draft constitution, that he rejected, made provisions for.
AntiMarxist:


You are being extremely annoying and irritating with this your atypical IPOB irrational daft conspiracy.

How and when did Obasanjo decide to single handedly edit and ammend the constitution ?

Were both the Legislature and judiciary that are also supposed to uphold the constitution sleeping ? What of the respective state assemblies and governors ?

You people always bring up daft and silly conspiracies.

Show us the original constitution that had provisions for rotational presidency.

You IPOB cretins have really reduced the quality of this forum with your stupid posts and threads .

The day you all fck off back to your Facebook IPOB group page , they better off this site will be.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 4:55am On Aug 18, 2024
Your opinion doesn't matter, the 1995 draft constitution was developed through many weeks of consultations with Nigerian in a national conference and it is the will of the Nigerian people.

What Obasanjo and General Abdulsalami presented to us as 1999 constitution was imposed on us and is undemocratic and invalid for all intents and purposes.

The question of regional governance is another idea that we cannot allow to be imposed on us especially not by an dishonest , corrupt , kleptomaniac and tribal bigot like Tinubu. There has to be a nationwide national conference and referendum on the issue.
AntiMarxist:


Not going to work.

Best thing to do is return to regional governance using the existing 6 geopolitcal regions.

Go and develop and govern yourselves in your region using whatever resources you have instead of hoping on using the current centrist system selfishly.

The reason you guys are all crying for Ibo presidency shows how tribalistic your ambitions are.

Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Throwback: 5:10am On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
It was not Abacha's draft constitution, rather it is Nigeria's draft constitution, that is why doing what is best for the country should be prioritize above personal squabbles and egos.
9jatriot:
Which kind lie be this? When exactly did Obj draft this new constitution?

If your lie lie write up is to be believed then what you are saying is that Obasanjo was sworn in with one constitution whereas he went on to create another constitution which only you and your whatsapp group know when it was done.


The OP is the perfect example of ignorance on steroids.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by fregeneh(m): 7:53am On Aug 18, 2024
Ojiofor:


It is a fact because the collage he claimed to have graduated in 1970 was created in 1974, isn't that a clear fraud to you?
thats a miss normal right there.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by AntiMarxist: 8:53am On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents, you are spewing total trash here.

Can you tell us when this phantom 1995 draft constitution was approved by Abacha ?

Which constitution was used by the IBB military junta during the very brief third Republic transition ?

How did the 1999 constitution come to replace this draft 1995 constitution ?


Which decree by Abacha approved this phantom 1995 constitution ?

The only thing I could get from your rants here is that of your support for the sponsored amnendment bill by your SE legislators that is currently pending in the Senate to introduce rotational Presidency.

At no time in history of Nigeria has there been any talk of rotational presidency in any of our constitutions. Rather the talk for one is being now proposed by your Ibo legislators.

Lastly, I see you hold same hatred for a return to regionalism or state autonomy just like all your politicians have done since independence .

I have said it here time without number that the greatest opposition to restructuring and devolving of central authority is the Ibo and not the north. You have proved my point once again.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Ojiofor: 10:30am On Aug 18, 2024
fregeneh:
thats a miss normal right there.

Tifnubu is a scam thatsall.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by AntiMarxist: 10:33am On Aug 18, 2024
Ojiofor:


Tifnubu is a scam thatsall.

Copium

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 4:11pm On Aug 18, 2024
Clearly you do not even know the meaning of the word "ignorance"
Throwback:


The OP is the perfect example of ignorance on steroids.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 5:41pm On Aug 18, 2024
I only state facts Obasanjo was at the very least in agreement with taking out rotational presidency from the constitution that was introduced at the start of his presidency.

Fact number 2: Obasanjo's government amended the 1999 constitution severally during his 8 years as president but never even attempted to add the rotational presidency clause to the 1999 constitution amendments.

Fact number 3: Obasanjo at the end of the his presidency did not give the presidential candidate ticket or VP ticket to an Igbo

Internet is your friend and re-read my original post and try to comprehend.
AntiMarxist:


Can you tell us when this phantom 1995 draft constitution was approved by Abacha ?

Which constitution was used by the IBB military junta during the very brief third Republic transition ?

How did the 1999 constitution come to replace this draft 1995 constitution ?


Which decree by Abacha approved this phantom 1995 constitution ?

The only thing I could get from your rants here is that of your support for the sponsored amendment bill by your SE legislators that is currently pending in the Senate to introduce rotational Presidency.

At no time in history of Nigeria has there been any talk of rotational presidency in any of our constitutions. Rather the talk for one is being now proposed by your Ibo legislators.

Lastly, I see you hold same hatred for a return to regionalism or state autonomy just like all your politicians have done since independence .

I have said it here time without number that the greatest opposition to restructuring and devolving of central authority is the Ibo and not the north. You have proved my point once again.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by SmartyPants(m): 5:51pm On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
I only state facts Obasanjo was at the very least in agreement with taking out rotational presidency from the constitution that was introduced at the start of his presidency.

Fact number 2: Obasanjo's government amended the 1999 constitution severally during his 8 years as president but never even attempted to add the rotational presidency clause to the 1999 constitution amendments.

Fact number 3: Obasanjo at the end of the his presidency did not give the presidential candidate ticket or VP ticket to an Igbo

Internet is your friend and re-read my original post and try to comprehend.

I read your original post and the only conclusion I could arrive at is that you are one heck of an ignorant dude. Imagine the lunacy of claiming Obasanjo introduced the 1999 Constitution. After being corrected instead of retracting the nonsense, you are changing mouth.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OMBIIGA: 6:28pm On Aug 18, 2024
Point of corrections Gen A.A, approved the 1999 constitution.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 6:56pm On Aug 18, 2024
You can't comprehend and I can't help you.
SmartyPants:


I read your original post and the only conclusion I could arrive at is that you are one heck of an ignorant dude. Imagine the lunacy of claiming Obasanjo introduced the 1999 Constitution. After being corrected instead of retracting the nonsense, you are changing mouth.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 7:06pm On Aug 18, 2024
So you believe Obasanjo who is senior to Gen Abdulsalami and incoming president wasn't consulted on the constitution that that was to be used by his incoming administration?
The point is Obasanjo agreed with and failed to attempt any amendments to insert the presidency guarantee for Igbos and other geopolitical zones that was in the jettisoned draft constitution that Abacha was on the verge of introducing.
OMBIIGA:
Point of corrections Gen A.A, approved the 1999 constitution.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by SmartyPants(m): 7:22pm On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
You can't comprehend and I can't help you.

Be quiet my friend! You've been corrected by so many persons. Shut up and learn quietly.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Didi2d(m): 7:27pm On Aug 18, 2024
Ibo's in the house, or should I say Nigerians in the house.
There is this neighbour of mine, he seriously needs financial assistance, his kids have stopped going to school and they are starving.
The other neighbour he's sharing prepaid meter with have disconnected his light since last year cos he couldn't contribute.

Anytime I see him I feel pity for him, but me sef dey manage. So felt like bringing it here.

He doesn't know am doing this, but if you can help please try.
Nigeria hard
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 8:01pm On Aug 18, 2024
How have you corrected me, by claiming that Obasanjo had no say in the decision to ditch the 1995 draft constitution, even though his incoming government would resume with the constitution? Very unlikely! in fact it's impossible!
SmartyPants:


Be quiet my friend! You've been corrected by so many persons. Shut up and learn quietly.
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Munamu: 8:39pm On Aug 18, 2024
OALandAgents:
Yes his presidency introduced it and he had to have consented to it at the very least. He also never tried to reintroduce the rotational presidency in his several amendments of the constitution over his 8 year tenure.


Get your facts right my son. Abdulsalam introduced the 1999 constitution. I understand your pain, but pls tell it to igoo aristocrats who sold out the Igbo presidency for crumbs. An example is your uncle igbokwe in lagos. The ex commissioner for gutter affairsgrin
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 9:26pm On Aug 18, 2024
You missing the point of the thread. Clearly Obasanjo agreed with Abdulsalami decision to ditch the 1995 draft constitution which would have guaranteed all geopolitical zones the chance to have the presidency.

Furthermore , Obasanjo handed over after his 8 years without even giving Igbos the VP ticket.

Obasanjo's govt amended the flawed 1999 constitution severally over his 8 years but still failed to even attempt to add the provision for rotational presidency , which would have guaranteed an Igbo president by now.
Munamu:



Get your facts right my son. Abdulsalam introduced the 1999 constitution. I understand your pain, but pls tell it to igoo aristocrats who sold out the Igbo presidency for crumbs. An example is your uncle igbokwe in lagos. The ex commissioner for gutter affairsgrin
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by OALandAgents: 10:48pm On Aug 18, 2024
Igbo were likely convinced by Alex Ekwueme that supporting the PDP was the shortest route to an Igbo presidency , and I am sure in 1999 Ekwueme was given assurances by Obasanjo and PDP founders that Igbos would get their chance for the presidential ticket in the not too distant future.
25 years later and PDP has yet offer the presidential ticket to an Igbo man.

Obasanjo's administration led this PDP scam and betrayal of the Igbos.

He finished his 8 years in 2007 and couldn't even give the Igbos the VP ticket.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Deadlytruth(m): 8:26am On Aug 19, 2024
OALandAgents:
1979-83 We had an Igbo as a vice president, in the person of the Late Alex Ekwueme which was in the Shehu Shagari civilian administration that Obasanjo's military regime handed power to.
Aguiyi Ironsi was also a one time ruler of Nigeria

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Deadlytruth(m): 8:28am On Aug 19, 2024
Tunde835:
Igbos don suffer for Nigeria they neva smell presidency. Even vice presidency they miss road while Yorubas have been president twice and vice president once. It's mostly Yoruba and Hausa that are draging presidency.
I never knew Aguiyi Ironsi and Zik were Hausa and Yoruba. Thanks for this revelation

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Deadlytruth(m): 8:35am On Aug 19, 2024
AntiMarxist:
OALandAgents, you are spewing total trash here.

Can you tell us when this phantom 1995 draft constitution was approved by Abacha ?

Which constitution was used by the IBB military junta during the very brief third Republic transition ?

How did the 1999 constitution come to replace this draft 1995 constitution ?


Which decree by Abacha approved this phantom 1995 constitution ?

The only thing I could get from your rants here is that of your support for the sponsored amnendment bill by your SE legislators that is currently pending in the Senate to introduce rotational Presidency.

At no time in history of Nigeria has there been any talk of rotational presidency in any of our constitutions. Rather the talk for one is being now proposed by your Ibo legislators.

Lastly, I see you hold same hatred for a return to regionalism or state autonomy just like all your politicians have done since independence .

I have said it here time without number that the greatest opposition to restructuring and devolving of central authority is the Ibo and not the north. You have proved my point once again.

Words on marble. That is the truth of the whole matter. Igbos opened the eyes of the North to the filthy sweetness of unitary system, and ever after tasting it,the North has refused to let the feeding bottle go.

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Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by lecturer22: 8:40am On Aug 19, 2024
The question is, did Obasanjo target Igbo specifically? If no, then you're talking nonsense..

Although Obasanjo is one of our biggest problem in Nigeria
Re: How Obasanjo Killed Off Guaranteed Igbo Presidency by Munamu: 10:50am On Aug 19, 2024
OALandAgents:
You missing the point of the thread. Clearly Obasanjo agreed with Abdulsalami decision to ditch the 1995 draft constitution which would have guaranteed all geopolitical zones the chance to have the presidency.

Furthermore , Obasanjo handed over after his 8 years without even giving Igbos the VP ticket.



I think I get you right, but don't forget that it is the duty of the national Assembly to make or amend laws for the nation. This is specified in section 4 of the 1999 constitution as amended. A president does not have absolute veto power.









Obasanjo's govt amended the flawed 1999 constitution severally over his 8 years but still failed to even attempt to add the provision for rotational presidency , which would have guaranteed an Igbo president by now.

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