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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 9:13pm On Aug 17
❗️Did Elon Musk really just supply a militarised Cyber Truck to Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov to help the Russian war effort? 🤣🇷🇺🇺🇸

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 9:13pm On Aug 17
😁🇷🇺Warlords and North African dictators around the world are going to be so jealous of Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov's new ride.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Stoplying: 9:17pm On Aug 17
Ska333ko:
😁🇷🇺Warlords and North African dictators around the world are going to be so jealous of Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov's new ride.
He's neither a warlord, nor a dictator. He's actually the equivalent of a governor in Nigeria and he also is a honorary general in the military of Russia. I've got to go, see (some of) you maybe after the war. 🏂🏿

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 9:20pm On Aug 17
The Russian Armed Forces found NATO machine gun belts with Arabic markings near Kursk

Boxes of NATO standard ammunition with Arabic markings were found in armored cars of the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed in the Kursk region. This was reported by an officer of the Marine Corps unit with the call sign “Wind”.

📝 “In the burned armored column, boxes with machine gun belts with 12.7 mm cartridges for NATO type M2 Browning machine guns were found,” the officer said.

The Arabic markings indicate that the ammunition was originally intended for use by the US Army and its allies in the Middle East.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 9:22pm On Aug 17
🇷🇺 The Russian Armed Forces are suppressing attempts to break through the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk direction around the clock

Russian forces are suppressing attempts to break through Ukrainian Armed Forces units in the Kursk direction around the clock. This was stated by the commander of the Akhmat special forces, Major General Apty Alaudinov.

📝 “All these attempts end in the destruction of the enemy and the burning of his equipment. We are destroying the enemy’s reserves,” he noted.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:24pm On Aug 17
LordAdam16:


From the early days of the War, a strategic concern had been building.
We've seen many instances of Russia destroying concentrations of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine.
However, Ukraine has been able to amass large aggregations of men and materiel across the country without Russia taking them out.
Maybe it's due to AD. Or Ukraine doing too many things at the same time (since they outsource a lot of the planning to the 14 Eyes and the West), that RU has to prioritize. But that inability made the Kursk incursion a possibility.

All they had to do was designate a Kalibr or Iskander for every grouping that exceeds 2,000 men - enough to cause damage - and run down the clock on the Eastern Front.

Add that to the list of limitations. They also can't stop the free flow of weapons into Ukraine. And they also can't destroy Ukrainian military industry since they can always just move underground. This has been a boon for the production of small drones, since they import parts from Asia which does not have the same deficiencies as the West.

Essentially, Ukraine cannot win the war. But they can be a very costly nuisance. The Kursk gambit reflects this.
It shouldn't lead to anything significant, but it was always an asterisk. Ukraine amassed soldiers on the borders of Belarus, Transnistria, and Russia. They could have pushed into any of the three. Belarus would be a provocation since they aren't currently a belligerent. Moldova firmly opposed moving into Transnistria. So they went into Kursk. The partisan infiltrations into Belgorod over the past 18 months provided critical insight into Russian defenses and response times. They also softened the underbelly with the deep strikes on airfields and radars.

Russia has the trump card because they have the superior force, a lot of land, larger population, and an intact MIC.
By some estimates, Ukraine can only support an incursion of about 100KM. That's the farthest they can go before supply chain and logistic snags wreck them. The deeper they go in, the larger the defense perimeter of the Ukrainians, which they'll have to man with more troops. It also allows Russia lots of surface area to press for pinchers through the flanks. It is a strategic gift.
It's the Prigozhin affair again. Let them roll in and make Russia the newest cemetery for Ukrainians.
From a PR perspective, this is not ideal. But if I can see it, I'm pretty certain Command would have told Putin that his slow, methodical approach would always have this as a potential outcome. Got to take the good with the bad.

This is also reminiscent of the Kharkov offensive. Ukraine had swift, lightspeed attacks. Captured a lot of ground. It fizzled out. They've been on the backfoot since. And right now a repeat seems implausible. Russia is learning a lot on the fly right now.

I had called for a general mobilization since last year. Equip a 5m man army. Take everything east of Dnieper and connect a land bridge to Transnistria. End the war and prepare for other theaters. Russia will need a lot of operators and resources to back its clients in Africa - Libya, Sudan, CAR, and its new Sahel friends; the Middle East (Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon); its Asian commitments - the Big One (a potential Taiwan invasion), North Korea, India, expanding its Pacific Fleet; and South America - Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela, and maintaining its strategic interests on the continent.

But Putin wants a slow war . And that provides more time and boundless opportunities for more ship sinking, airfield strikes, terrorism and assassination, taking out pricey radar and AD installations, and Kursk-like incursions. These are the drawbacks of a slow war. Right now, many in the West think a Russian mobilization and all-out attack is justified, but Putin still would not bite.

Certainly Netanyahu has provided a stark contrast even though he has not and cannot achieve his objectives. He has helped buttressed the merits of Putin's approach. Ultimately, this is how he has opted to fight this war. When Medvedev fought the Georgian War, he deployed troops at a 5:1 advantage, disabled Georgian air and naval forces. Then it became a turkey shoot.

-Lord

Your logical deductions vis-a-vis the Ukrainian Kursk incursion and the perceived Russian limitations are not only reasonably sound, but also truthfully captures what has now metamorphose as the stark reality of border wars--somethings would always go through, no matter the party's A2/AD and OSINT capability.

We see this reality playing out many times in the Lebanese/Israeli border front lines where even the most sophisticated AD systems of the IDF is unable to keep tabs on certain missiles and drones launched from Lebanon by Hezbollah. But, we are talking about a war theatre that is densely and sophisticatedly policed than any other war zone currently ongoing anywhere in the world. NATO's "All-Seeing Eve" works around the clock in favour of Ukraine, making it possible for the Ukros to know in advance about certain Russian planned activities, like when White Swans takes off from certain airfields, allowing the Ukrainians to take preemptive and counter measures. But, even at that, Russia has, by its own capabilities and strategic strength, always find a way to hit multiple Ukrainian targets, including ones that appeared to be the most secretively concealed and fiercely defended.

For those who has been following this war, Russia's Intel and it's precision ability to locate, target, and destroy or paralyzed high priority Ukrainian targets, including underground weapons depots, secret command posts, and highly concealed troops and armament movements and deployment, has never been in doubt. This is why border wars are the most difficult of all wars. You may occasionally sneak in some drones and missiles undetected by the enemy, but you can NEVER hide huge troops and armament movements in this kind of war theatre that is highly saturated with eyes in the skies, ears among the enemy, and give aways by captives. This is where the Question Mark appears at the end of the Ukrainian Kursk incursion.

Moving forces from major front lines and forming 6-8 brigades and deploying them to the Sumy region from where the counter attack originated, COULDN'T have gone unnoticed by Russian intelligence. In fact, Ukraine started evacuating populations in the Sumy Region prior to the Kursk incursion. These are glaring signs of something ominous in the offing, which, in my opinion, couldn't have gone unnoticed by the Russians. Except someone can convince me that they're this highly incompetent and unserious. Moreover, one Russian arty man confirmed to Russian sources that they knew before hand that the Ukros were planning to attack the region. Whether they deliberately allowed it or just simply dismissed it as one of those normal Ukro crazy suicide raids is something only time would tell.

Nevertheless, going by your logical deductions, it's yet possible that Ukraine could have pulled this off giving the facts (like you rightly mentioned) that they have over times 'soften the belly,' thus paving the way for this incursion, not to mention that the area was barely defended.

Be that as it may, what the Ukrainians aimed to achieve from this audacious move is something we all will have to wait to unravel. Like you rightly said, if this was a PR move, then it's already dead on arrival. Some soldiers fighting in the Donetsk front said recently that, the morale boost the Kursk incursion gave them has waned out due to the higher losses in manpower and territories Ukraine is losing recently at breathtaking speed. Russia has not pulled troops that are directly engaged in the front lines in Donetsk to go after the Ukros in Kursk. Instead, they have sent reserves to deal with the situation, which is very bad for Ukraine. In fact, one Ukrainian commander stated that his troops located in one of the hot spots in the Donetsk area has only four mortal guns to defend their positions, and that they can only fire 10 mortals per day for each gun. This is so because majority of the high-end assets are being transferred to the Sumy- Kursk fronts to try and stop the advancing Russia reserves. Now, we see why the front lines in the East are collapsing faster than previous times. What they hoped to achieve against Russia is gradually becoming a noose around their own neck.

Like you and Stoplying have rightly noted, this incursion is a show of desperation, the last kick of a dying horse, a last ditch attempt to appear 'relevant' to its western sponsors, some of whom are now willing to dump the 'failed Ukrainian project'. Now that Elensky has lost 3 more HIMARS, 3 Patriots, and 1 Iris-T AD systems in course of this incursion, I wonder what more the coke sniffer is willing to sacrifice just to hold on to large swats of empty land that has no strategic value.

Either way, Ukraine will not come out of this victorious.

On Putin's choice of war, I have never questioned his tactics with regards to the pace at which things are being done. Yes, I understand people saying Russia could have ended this have they declared an all-out war on Ukraine, and mobilized for a quick and decisive victory. Well, I can't say that reasoning is flawed or emotionally driven, giving the facts that Russia is a wsr machine and possess that exact capability to end the war quickly. But then, that is exactly what the US wanted. A quick and devastating onslaught that would have made Gaza pale in comparison considering the size, population density and urbanization of Ukraine. In fact, had Russia taken that route, most of us wouldn't be here talking about Genocide in Gaza today. Netanyahoo and his fellow Anglo-zionist, genocidal sympathizers on this thread and across Europe would have seen a perfect excuse to obscure their devilish deeds. It would have been a perfect excuse for the western elite to establish their whataboutism, and paint Russia the beast they have always called it and wanted it to be in the eyes of all nations.

When that US General said that Kiev would fall in 3 days if Russia invaded, he wasn't mincing words. They knew Russia has the capability to achieve that, and they were hoping and goading Russia to take that route. But, instead, Russia rolled out the famous 'Z' letter underscoring its SMO choice, rather than the Russia we saw in Aleppo in 2015 or in Georgia in 2008. The Putin's slow, methodical grinding of the Ukrainian armed forces isn't just the best option because it gives Russia the time to adapt to and counter NATO's Massive and formidable Intelligence capabilities, and gain immense first-hand knowledge of NATO weapon qualities and capabilities, it has enabled Russia to expose to the entire world the double standards of the west. This has both caused a tectonic shift in many nations foreign policy and alignment preferences. Many nations across the globe are now linking up economically and politically with Russia and China. Instead of Russia being isolated. It's the west that's being told to get the hell out in places like Africa, and in Asia and the Middle East, nations now call their bluff.

Again, a quick all out destruction of Ukraine would have mean Russia killing its own people in the East and destroying parts of its own history, which is something the western demons have always wanted. Slavs killing Slavs. The refugee crisis would have been unprecedented. And come to think of it: even in this slow methodical pace, none of the wicked sponsors of this crisis in Europe and beyond are housing more Ukrainians than those currently in Russia. So. Is in Russia's best interest to take it slowly because the slower it goes, the stronger Russia becomes while the west continue to weaken economically and divided politically.

As for mad man Zelensky, invading Russia isn't a problem, living to tell the tale is the PROBLEM.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 9:33pm On Aug 17
🇺🇦 It is reported that near Sudzha the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already lost more than two hundred soldiers in three days

⚫️According to Ukrainian media, the bodies of Ukrainian militants are being taken to overcrowded morgues in the city of Sumy.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 9:54pm On Aug 17
⚡The Belarusian armed forces are deploying their units near the border with Ukraine.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 9:56pm On Aug 17
WrriterNg:



Nope they were colonized by Spain.

The US colonized them. The US defeated the Spaniards and took over the Philippines, along with Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam.

They even considered turning Philippines into a US state or territory at some point.

The US colonization is why Filipinos speak English even though they usually have Spanish surnames.

No one really talks about the colonization. Even the Americans don't talk much about it.

You can see it here - https://history.state.gov/milestones/1899-1913/war
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:04pm On Aug 17
Alamkir:


So you are not even going to show us small pics

grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:05pm On Aug 17
Gbadebo19:

Person wey know say dem no born im father well.
His accomplices in crime have fled this topic since the day the police report changed from pending to processing.

You must be an idiot. I saw Alamkir's post in the morning but decided to lock up since I have no interest in exposing you.

But it appears you just have to be a slowpoke. Say who dey fear you? That you're what? You think so highly of yourself though you're nothing.

I've posted it. Foolish boy.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 10:09pm On Aug 17
⏺⏺ The waste heap of the Severnaya mine came under the control of the Russian Armed Forces

▪️ In the Toretsk direction, our fighters continue to liberate territories from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, military correspondents report.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:11pm On Aug 17
Gbadebo19:

It's not by shouting on Nairaland.
You can also go to Twitter and search for me there, then come back here and post my pics and location.
That shouldn't be too hard to do, should it?

I have done just that. Oya. Take it to the bank.

Police report changed to processing mean say wetin? Na wereey you be. Very foolish adult human.

1993 pikin behaving like kindergartner. You will be 31 this year yet you have very little sense in your head.

You finished school, law school, you didn't go. Nysc, you didn't go. So what are you doing?

Or you've gone into stealing full-time? Because that appears to be the only thing you're good at other than being racist towards your fellow black man and calling them black monkeys.

You better grow up and start taking your life serious.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:13pm On Aug 17
Gbadebo19:
Really dumb humans here.
The lame defense of these unrepentant criminals is akin to a thief who stole from a house and defends himself by saying the owner is at fault for leaving his own windows and door open.
He posted his own full name here yen yen yen.

You posted your full name here, yes or no? You were caught stealing and there was even a witness, yes or no?

Criminal calling others criminal. Thief.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:17pm On Aug 17
Dream25:

Pls drop that your name again so I can search for you and your pictures..
I'll post it here and other thread on nairaland.. cheesy

Moshood Adeniji Gbadebo
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:17pm On Aug 17
Gbadebo19:

It isn't hard. Just go back about 5 pages on this thread. You will find it.
Your case is like someone who asks for a fight and staggers backwards for about 10km. Who doesn't know he is actually scared of fighting.
Please remember to tag me to the post when you do so, so that I can see it.

He doesn't need to go find it. I've helped him already 😛
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:18pm On Aug 17
Elon Musk sef... He should go to court. Just like the owners of TikTok

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 10:19pm On Aug 17
🇷🇺 Footage of liquidated Ukrainian militants in the Kursk region

📝 “This will happen to everyone who came to our land,” say Russian fighters.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 10:22pm On Aug 17
Pokrovsky direction: the left wing of the Russian operational group broke the external defense of the VSU around the settlement of Novoželanoye and entered its northern parts.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:41pm On Aug 17
WrriterNg:
Where is pansophist, Appleyard And Gerrard5?



They haven't posted here in a while

I'm here bro. Just tired of all the nonsense detractors here.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:14pm On Aug 17
shoodboi2:


I have done just that. Oya. Take it to the bank.

Police report changed to processing mean say wetin? Na wereey you be. Very foolish adult human.

1993 pikin behaving like kindergartner. You will be 31 this year yet you have very little sense in your head.

You finished school, law school, you didn't go. Nysc, you didn't go. So what are you doing?

Or you've gone into stealing full-time? Because that appears to be the only thing you're good at other than being racist towards your fellow black man and calling them black monkeys.

You better grow up and start taking your life serious.
It's a free world.
Keep using my pics to shine.
Being jobless to the extent of posting another person's pics shows how much of low self esteem you have.
It is obvious your informant is pained that I even graduated.
Your sifia pains soothes me.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:15pm On Aug 17
shoodboi2:


He doesn't need to go find it. I've helped him already 😛
And how much recognition have you earned.
How much better has your life become?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:16pm On Aug 17
shoodboi2:


I have done just that. Oya. Take it to the bank.

Police report changed to processing mean say wetin? Na wereey you be. Very foolish adult human.

1993 pikin behaving like kindergartner. You will be 31 this year yet you have very little sense in your head.

You finished school, law school, you didn't go. Nysc, you didn't go. So what are you doing?

Or you've gone into stealing full-time? Because that appears to be the only thing you're good at other than being racist towards your fellow black man and calling them black monkeys.

You better grow up and start taking your life serious.
If all of these make you sleep at night. It is totally fine by me. As long as you remain a burden to yourself and your family.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:23pm On Aug 17
shoodboi2:


Here you go: This is gbadebo
But wait, is it my handsomeness that makes you glued to my social media profile?
Or the fact that I am better than you in all ramifications.
Ordinary writing ability, you so dumb you classified it as AI.
Cos I really don't understand how useless and jobless a can be to have time to the extent of finding someone up and down on social media.
It is normal to be pained when you think it is never gonna get better for someone and you are shamed when they suddenly get ahead of you in life. I feel your pain nigger.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:28pm On Aug 17
shoodboi2:


He doesn't need to go find it. I've helped him already 😛
No wonder you don't have any progress in life.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 11:37pm On Aug 17
Gbadebo19:

No wonder you don't have any progress in life.

You are obviously pained. I will leave you to continue making your noise. Next time you cross the red lines, we will continue.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kremlingrad: 11:48pm On Aug 17
Kingsnairaland:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrtShMuU/

Ukraine nato boys recording themselves running out of kursk using star link to post it

Saying he hopes to reach Ukraine in peace lol

Keep playing..

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kremlingrad: 11:50pm On Aug 17
Appleyard:


Your logical deductions vis-a-vis the Ukrainian Kursk incursion and the perceived Russian limitations are not only reasonably sound, but also truthfully captures what has now metamorphose as the stark reality of border wars--somethings would always go through, no matter the party's A2/AD and OSINT capability.

We see this

Two Pokemons deceiving themselves with Epistles

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Faithti(m): 12:09am On Aug 18
Isn't it funny that Russians in sudza and kursk are not protesting against the Ukrainians
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Dream25: 12:27am On Aug 18
Faithti:
Isn't it funny that Russians in sudza and kursk are not protesting against the Ukrainians
And you're in Kursk to know this or anything happening there?..

Are you joyandfaith?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mille: 3:22am On Aug 18
Ska333ko:
☠️🇺🇦🇷🇺The mayor of Lvov...He writes that many corpses are brought from the Kursk Region

Kudos to Lubomir Kramarivsky. Didn't have children at 41 but somehow managed to drop two offsprings during the war.

That's what I hate about war. Every man with a story and a changed family dynamics is somehow relegated to a numbered statistics. The ones who however push them to war live a very sheltered life. What concerns a man from Lviv if a person from far way Donetsk decides to identify as Russian instead of Ukrainian.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 6:03am On Aug 18
shoodboi2:


You are obviously pained. I will leave you to continue making your noise. Next time you cross the red lines, we will continue.
When am done with you, you will ask for tears like this, you won't find.

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