Kingsempires:
is the Way he understood the Bible

No! He knew exactly what he was doing.

Don't forget, to Jws Jesus is Angel Michael and Jesus is the first created being.

By doing so, he wants to justify why Michael is so POWERFUL THAN OTHER ANGELS and reason it can only be Jesus Christ.

Kingsempires:
I don't still understand your narration

I have a lot to do today but i purposely stayed back because of you so if i discover you're not ready for knowledge i will leave you with your friends.

According to Paul there are those who have authority among angels in heaven. 1Corinthians 8:5 compared to Psalms 82:1

But who is the angel that always represents Jehovah? Exodus 13:21;14:19

It's the same angel who always comes to the rescue of God's people {Daniel 10:13; 12:1; Jude :9} because he's the commander of all the angels in heaven {Matthew 25:31} Satan is also one of the angels having authority in heaven that's why the Bible talked about angels under Satan's control but against Michael the overall commander Satan and his army are no match! Revelations 12:7-9

So if all the chief angels are archangels is Satan also an archangel?

Kingsempires:
is the Way he understood the Bible

I think i've done enough so choose between their teaching and mine, henceforth any question you have ask them because i won't respond to your questions again.

Thanks for your time!

MaxInDHouse:


I think i've done enough so choose between their teaching and mine, henceforth any question you have ask them because i won't respond to your questions again.

Thanks for your time!

So showing you Bible verse is now my teaching

Well, I know you'll still repeat that lie million times but just as Our Lord and Savior says "You shall know the Truth and The Truth shall set you free"

@kingsempires you see why I told you that he knew exactly what he was doing.

Arch means Chief
Archangel will mean Chiefangel

Daniel talks about CHIEF PRINCE and Michael is ONE OF THEM.

You see the reason he can't answer my question since

Emusan:


So showing you Bible verse is now my teaching

Well, I know you'll still repeat that lie million times but just as Our Lord and Savior says "You shall know the Truth and The Truth shall set you free"

@kingsempires you see why I told you that he knew exactly what he was doing.

Arch means Chief
Archangel will mean Chiefangel

Daniel talks about CHIEF PRINCE and Michael is ONE OF THEM.

You see the reason he can't answer my question since

Can you answer his questions?

If you can then teach him about your god!

MaxInDHouse:
So if all the chief angels are archangels is Satan also an archangel?

Arch means CHIEF

So if you can just erase that delusion on your head you won't ask again, if all chief(arch) angels are arch(chief)angels is Satan also an arch(chief)angel?

You're deliberately using the key word ARCHANGEL as if it doesn't have meaning.

Only a liar, fraudster and manipulator that does that.

@kingsempires you see how he kept using the word ARCHANGEL but refused to break it down, do your research you will find out that ARCHANGEL simply means CHIEF ANGEL.

Then compare that to the last part of his statement which I quoted.

In fact, below is a Marian dictionary meaning of Archangel

MaxInDHouse:


Can you answer his questions?

If you can then teach him about your god!

If he didn't ask me question, don't bother yourself on that.

The fact here is that, Michael isn't the ONLY ARCHANGEL according to the scripture as you boldly lied before!

Emusan:


Arch means CHIEF

So if you can just erase that delusion on your head you won't ask again, if all chief(arch) angels are arch(chief)angels is Satan also an arch(chief)angel?

You're deliberately using the key word ARCHANGEL as if it doesn't have meaning.

Only a liar, fraudster and manipulator that does that.

@kingsempires you see how he kept using the word ARCHANGEL but refused to break it down, do your research you will find out that ARCHANGEL simply means CHIEF ANGEL.

Then compare that to the last part of his statement which I quoted.

In fact, below is a Marian dictionary meaning of Archangel

The funny thing with you is that when talking about the understanding of God's word you rush to world philosophers whose works you can't present as evidence of accurate knowledge.

When Jesus walked the earth himself and his disciples were considered as novice before the great scholars of his time {Act 4:13} so instead of jumping into dictionaries to interpret God's word think about the FRUITAGE of such a translator if their translation doesn't meet up with the motive of bearing disciples who are zealously preaching and industriously teaching about God's Kingdom then their interpretation is not ACCURATE! Matthew 7:15-20

Emusan:

If he didn't ask me question, don't bother yourself on that. The fact here is that, Michael isn't the ONLY ARCHANGEL according to the scripture as you boldly lied before!

Only the truth will WORK and make disciples who are doing the work lies will only end up as arguments in the mouths of it's carriers!

Kingsempires:
is the Way he understood the Bible

Oga kingsempires....Below is Daniel chapter 10:13 in the screenshot below.
You can see that the Title 'Chief Prince' does not mean 'ArchAngel'. The Hebrew word for 'Prince' is not the same for Angel. Jesus Christ is called the Archangel only in the New Testament and it is usually in singular and not in plural to show that there is actually one Archangel.

Below in the screenshot is also commentaries from The GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S, both from bible hub who says that Michael in Daniel 10:13 refers to Jesus Christ even though these sources believe in the Trinity.

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing with you is that when talking about the understanding of God's word you rush to world philosophers whose works you can't present as evidence of accurate knowledge.

When Jesus walked the earth himself and his disciples were considered as novice before the great scholars of his time {Act 4:13} so instead of jumping into dictionaries to interpret God's word think about the FRUITAGE of such a translator if their translation doesn't meet up with the motive of bearing disciples who are zealously preaching and industriously teaching about God's Kingdom then their interpretation is not ACCURATE! Matthew 7:15-20

Another shalaye

What is the meaning of ARCH?

Michael547:

Oga kingsempires....Below is Daniel chapter 10:13 in the screenshot below.
You can see that the Title 'Chief Prince' does not mean 'ArchAngel'. The Hebrew word for 'Prince' is not the same for Angel.

So what is the meaning of archangel?

Jesus Christ is called the Archangel only in the New Testament and it is usually in singular and not in plural to show that there is actually one Archangel.

I challenge you to provide the verse where Jesus was CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Below in the screenshot is also commentaries from The GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S, both from bible hub who says that Michael in Daniel 10:13 refers to Jesus Christ even though these sources believe in the Trinity.

Now Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's are correct simply because the link Daniel to Jesus.

But do you agree with the two on John 1:1?

MaxInDHouse:
Only the truth will WORK and make disciples who are doing the work lies will only end up as arguments in the mouths of it's carriers!

What incoherent......

Read what you type again and make sense out of it

Emusan:


So what is the meaning of archangel?



I challenge you to provide the verse where Jesus was CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT



Now Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's are correct simply because the link Daniel to Jesus.

But do you agree with the two on John 1:1?

You don't have to challenge me....you can challenge GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S commentaries below on Daniel 10:13 even though they believe in Trinity.
Good bye.

Michael547:

You don't have to challenge me....you can challenge GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S commentaries below on Daniel 10:13 even though they believe in Trinity.
Good bye.

Many people have challenged them already and that is the reason you can only cherry pick the part that suit your side.

Now do someone who believe in Trinity will believe Jesus is an Angel?

You didn't answer the question I asked also.

What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

PROVIDE THE VERSE WHERE JESUS WAS CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

Emusan:


Many people have challenged them already and that is the reason you can only cherry pick the part that suit your side.

Now do someone who believe in Trinity will believe Jesus is an Angel?

You didn't answer the question I asked also.

What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

PROVIDE THE VERSE WHERE JESUS WAS CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

Lol.....ok do you agree with them on John 1:1?
If yes, why don't you agree with them on Daniel 10:13?
Are you also cherry picking?

Michael547:

Lol.....ok do you agree with them on John 1:1?
If yes, why don't you agree with them on Daniel 10:13?
Are you also cherry picking?

Answer the rest of my question.

What is the meaning of Archangel?

Provide the verse where Jesus was called ARCHANGEL in the New Testament.

Emusan:


Answer the rest of my question.

What is the meaning of Archangel?

Provide the verse where Jesus was called ARCHANGEL in the New Testament.

I do not have to answer you....you don't have to have a case with me. My submission was not directed at you.

Below are commentaries of people who believe that Michael in Daniel 10:13 is Jesus Christ and i agree with them just as you agree with them on John 1:1.

Michael547:
I do not have to answer you....

You need to as long you quote me.

you don't have to have a case with me.

Then stop coming to Nairaland.

I never asked you any question.

You did above!

Below are commentaries of people who believe that Michael in Daniel 10:13 is Jesus Christ and i agree with them just as you agree with them on John 1:1.

I never said I agree with them on anything.
You did that to justify your own cherry pick.

Which I'm very sure, if we jump into the discussion of John 1:1 using the same PEOPLE your tune will change and you won't be soo bold to say YES I AGREE WITH THIS PEOPLE.

You will hardly see me quoting commentary to support my point.

What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

WHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT JESUS WAS CALLED ARCHANGEL?

I don't know why you are not proud to provide a verse where Jesus was called ARCHANGEL in the New Testament which would have end all this in second.

Emusan:


You need to as long you quote me.



Then stop coming to Nairaland.



You did above!



I never said I agree with them on anything.
You did that to justify your own cherry pick.

Which I'm very sure, if we jump into the discussion of John 1:1 using the same PEOPLE your tune will change and you won't be soo bold to say YES I AGREE WITH THIS PEOPLE.

You will hardly see me quoting commentary to support my point.

What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

WHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT JESUS WAS CALLED ARCHANGEL?

I don't know why you are not proud to provide a verse where Jesus was called ARCHANGEL in the New Testament which would have end all this in second.

Do you agree on GENEVA STUDY BIBLE AND MATTHEW POOLE'S commentaries on John 1:1?
Yes or no?

Michael547:

Do you agree on GENEVA STUDY BIBLE AND MATTHEW POOLE'S commentaries on John 1:1?
Yes or no?

What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

Where in the New Testament Jesus was called ARCHANGEL?

These are my questions before you think of asking yours.

If you answer them, then you'll get answer to yours.

Emusan:


What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

Where in the New Testament Jesus was called ARCHANGEL?

These are my questions before you think of asking yours.

If you answer them, then you'll get answer to yours.

I won't answer your questions since you won't answer mine. Goodbye sir.

Michael547:

I won't answer your questions since you won't answer mine. Goodbye sir.

Martin Luther his Trinitarian mentor is a believer of Jesus the archangel Michael.

He should get answers from his mentor every other Reformer & pastors listed in the screenshots.

All of them nah him Oga.

Dan 10:13  But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia. 

michael isn't Jesus Christ, michael is one of the chief princes
and Jesus/the Word, made the chief princes
Jesus/the Word, made everything that is made
Jesus/the Word is not one of His own creation, He is not one the chief princes, but above them - He made them

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him (Jesus/the Word), and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

Janosky:


Martin Luther his Trinitarian mentor is a believer of Jesus the archangel Michael.

He should get answers from his mentor every other Reformer & pastors listed in the screenshots.

All of them nah him Oga.

This same guy told me before that every other church is correct apart from the JWs.
I don tell am to go argue with him fellow Trinitarians about Daniel 10:13. At least e no go talk say na JW men for warwick talk say Michael na Jesus.

Michael547:

I won't answer your questions since you won't answer mine. Goodbye sir.

Who first asked question?

After you lied against God and His word, I understand

The wicked runeth when no one pursued him

Janosky:


Martin Luther his Trinitarian mentor is a believer of Jesus the archangel Michael.

He should get answers from his mentor every other Reformer & pastors listed in the screenshots.

All of them nah him Oga.

Is Martin Luther not your own oga?

I'm glad everyone on your list was never an author of a single verse in the scripture.

Well, as usual your cherry pick will make you discard them when the table turns.

Emusan:


Who first asked question?

After you lied against God and His word, I understand

The wicked runeth when no one pursued him

Oga you first quoted me.....I was talking to Kingsempires and not you.
Oga it is not my fault that your fellow Trinitarians, GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S agree that Michael is Jesus in Daniel 10:13.
I thought you said all other churches are right apart from the JWs? Go and meet your people.

Michael547:

Oga you first quoted me.....

This line is stale already.

I was talking to Kingsempires and not you.

Did kingsempires first quoted you or ask you to talk to him?

Cut the crab Mr.

You lied about God and His word, you were asked to support your lie with scripture you begin to tell stories instead of you to be happy to show everyone WHERE GOD'S SHOW JESUS WAS THE ONLY DIRECTLY CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

Oga it is not my fault that your fellow Trinitarians, GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S agree that Michael is Jesus in Daniel 10:13.

They are not God's word.

That you saw a part of their work that dance to your tune or agreeing with your lie doesn't mean you agreed they are actually PART OF 144,000 ruling with Jesus Christ in heaven now or they TEACH THE TRUTH.

No matter how many times you repost those cherry pick screenshot, it will always show your hypocrisy!

I thought you said all other churches are right apart from the JWs?

Yes! because you jws claimed other churches are wrong and only you are right!

Or do you believe another is right apart from jws?

Go and meet your people.

You don't need to tell me, I'm always with my people.

Or did complain to you?

johnw47:


lost false jw mad max

Jesus is definately not a brother to liars, the paranoid, blasphemers, etc
you do so lie:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Who did the devil murder?
What lies does he speak of?


Mind you, I’m not in anyway against your statement, I just want to learn.

Emusan:


This line is stale already.



Did kingsempires first quoted you or ask you to talk to him?

Cut the crab Mr.

You lied about God and His word, you were asked to support your lie with scripture you begin to tell stories instead of you to be happy to show everyone WHERE GOD'S SHOW JESUS WAS THE ONLY DIRECTLY CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.



They are not God's word.

That you saw a part of their work that dance to your tune or agreeing with your lie doesn't mean you agreed they are actually PART OF 144,000 ruling with Jesus Christ in heaven now or they TEACH THE TRUTH.

No matter how many times you repost those cherry pick screenshot, it will always show your hypocrisy!



Yes! because you jws claimed other churches are wrong and only you are right!

Or do you believe another is right apart from jws?



You don't need to tell me, I'm always with my people.

Or did complain to you?

So why are you not agreeing with Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary na on daniel 10:13.....are they not your people again?

TBIZZY:
Who did the devil murder?
What lies does he speak of?
Mind you, I’m not in anyway against your statement, I just want to learn.

Joh 8:44  You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 

looks like you don't believe God's Word

God said you shall not eat or touch the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden
or you will die
the devil deceived eve to eat the fruit knowing it would cause her to die, that's murder
and that's a lie right from the beginning, read the bible yourself for more