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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by TBIZZY(m): 12:02pm On Aug 19
johnw47:


Joh 8:44  You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 

looks like you don't believe God's Word



God said you shall not eat or touch the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden
or you will die
the devil deceived eve to eat the fruit knowing it would cause her to die, that's murder
and that's a lie right from the beginning, read the bible yourself for more

No no, c’mon, the devil did not lie here, he told the actual truth, he only made them disobey.

We can all accept, according to text in the bible,that it was God that actually lied to them about the fruit.
Maybe he did that on a purpose.


That aside, how is the devil a murderer?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 3:22pm On Aug 19
Michael547:

So why are you not agreeing with Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary na on daniel 10:13.....are they not your people again?

You're doing this just to dodge my questions but I will keep bringing them up for you.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

2. Where in the New Testament was it stated that Jesus is the ONLY ARCHANGEL?




Why are you afraid of using God's word to support your claim INSTEAD of holding to a commentaries something you can't even share among your hall people?

Like I pointed above, not that you believe both people behind Geneva Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary HAVE THE TRUTH NOR CURRENTLY AMONG THOSE RULING WITH CHRIST IN HEAVEN.

For instance, both Geneva Bible and Matthew already say Jesus is Michael (according to your cherry pick part) more than 100 years yet Watchtower that claim Jesus came in 1914 and has chosen them were still confused on the identity of who MICHAEL IS?

From being Pope to this back to pope to that blablabla....

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 3:23pm On Aug 19
TBIZZY:
No no, c’mon, the devil did not lie here, he told the actual truth, he only made them disobey.
We can all accept, according to text in the bible,that it was God that actually lied to them about the fruit.
Maybe he did that on a purpose.
That aside, how is the devil a murderer?

bye dummy

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 3:28pm On Aug 19
Emusan:


You're doing this just to dodge my questions but I will keep bringing them up for you.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

2. Where in the New Testament was it stated that Jesus is the ONLY ARCHANGEL?




Why are you afraid of using God's word to support your claim INSTEAD of holding to a commentaries something you can't even share among your hall people?

Like I pointed above, not that you believe both people behind Geneva Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary HAVE THE TRUTH NOR CURRENTLY AMONG THOSE RULING WITH CHRIST IN HEAVEN.

For instance, both Geneva Bible and Matthew already say Jesus is Michael (according to your cherry pick part) more than 100 years yet Watchtower that claim Jesus came in 1914 and has chosen them were still confused on the identity of who MICHAEL IS?

From being Pope to this back to pope to that blablabla....


Looool!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 3:30pm On Aug 19
Michael547:

You don't have to challenge me....you can challenge GENEVA STUDY BIBLE and MATTHEW POOLE'S commentaries below on Daniel 10:13 even though they believe in Trinity.
Good bye.

TRINITARIANS aka false Christians aka christendom teach the truth niyen grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 3:30pm On Aug 19
Michael547:

I do not have to answer you....you don't have to have a case with me. My submission was not directed at you.

Below are commentaries of people who believe that Michael in Daniel 10:13 is Jesus Christ and i agree with them just as you agree with them on John 1:1.


Looool japa grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 3:36pm On Aug 19
Emusan:


You're doing this just to dodge my questions but I will keep bringing them up for you.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?

2. Where in the New Testament was it stated that Jesus is the ONLY ARCHANGEL?




Why are you afraid of using God's word to support your claim INSTEAD of holding to a commentaries something you can't even share among your hall people?

Like I pointed above, not that you believe both people behind Geneva Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary HAVE THE TRUTH NOR CURRENTLY AMONG THOSE RULING WITH CHRIST IN HEAVEN.

For instance, both Geneva Bible and Matthew already say Jesus is Michael (according to your cherry pick part) more than 100 years yet Watchtower that claim Jesus came in 1914 and has chosen them were still confused on the identity of who MICHAEL IS?

From being Pope to this back to pope to that blablabla....
Oga leave me and JWs out of this.....go and meet your fellow Trinitarians who says that Michael is Jesus.
When you are done convincing them, we can now have a discussion.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 3:40pm On Aug 19
Emusan:


This line is stale already.



Did kingsempires first quoted you or ask you to talk to him?

Cut the crab Mr.

You lied about God and His word, you were asked to support your lie with scripture you begin to tell stories instead of you to be happy to show everyone WHERE GOD'S SHOW JESUS WAS THE ONLY DIRECTLY CALLED ARCHANGEL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.



They are not God's word.

That you saw a part of their work that dance to your tune or agreeing with your lie doesn't mean you agreed they are actually PART OF 144,000 ruling with Jesus Christ in heaven now or they TEACH THE TRUTH.

No matter how many times you repost those cherry pick screenshot, it will always show your hypocrisy!



Yes! because you jws claimed other churches are wrong and only you are right!

Or do you believe another is right apart from jws?



You don't need to tell me, I'm always with my people.

Or did complain to you?




Nairaland and reasoning skills....


Michael547: I thought you said all other churches are right apart from the JWs?

Emusan: Yes! because you jws claimed other churches are wrong and only you are right!

Or do you believe another is right apart from jws?

Dilemma for Michael547 instantly grin grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 3:42pm On Aug 19
Michael547:

Oga leave me and JWs out of this.....go and meet your fellow Trinitarians who says that Michael is Jesus.
When you are done convincing them, we can now have a discussion.

He knows they never believed Michael is Pope and that criteria was used by Jesus to select them as true Christians grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:37pm On Aug 19
Michael547:

Oga leave me and JWs out of this.....go and meet your fellow Trinitarians who says that Michael is Jesus.
When you are done convincing them, we can now have a discussion.

I wonder why they won't settle with their fellow worshipers on matters but wants JWs to agree with them! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 4:58pm On Aug 19
MaxInDHouse:


I wonder why they won't settle with their fellow worshipers on matters but wants JWs to agree with them! smiley

When they say they agree with fellow worshipers you will come with your 41000 teaching conflicting and contradicting teachings grin grin grin grin

It is not an utter embarrassment that Rutherford your religious organization were busy teaching Michael is Pope grin grin grin grin

The same Michael Russell didn't agree is an Angel grin grin grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by TBIZZY(m): 7:53pm On Aug 19
undecided

johnw47:


bye dummy

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40pm On Aug 19
achorladey:


When they say they agree with fellow worshipers you will come with your 41000 teaching conflicting and contradicting teachings grin grin grin grin

It is not an utter embarrassment that Rutherford your religious organization were busy teaching Michael is Pope grin grin grin grin

The same Michael Russell didn't agree is an Angel grin grin grin grin

Did Russell and Rutherford said different things at the same time?

Ọmọ the light is getting brighter so Russell and Rutherford will agree with what the organization says today if they are alive now! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 9:13pm On Aug 19
MaxInDHouse:


Did Russell and Rutherford said different things at the same time?

Ọmọ the light is getting brighter so Russell and Rutherford will agree with what the organization says today if they are alive now! smiley

Your mini hibernation don end come join me for here grin

Did Russell and Rutherford said different things at the same time?

They said it at different timezones one was in Australia the other one was in Middle East grin grin grin

Ọmọ the light is getting brighter so Russell and Rutherford will agree with what the organization says today if they are alive now!

Had your madness and insanities peddling brains worked well you will see that

Jesus the Lord who the Bible called Lord and Savior cannot be the same Pope who your religious organization called the chief of Babylon the great. That is what you call light getting brighter. Na Bridget no be brighter. grin grin grin grin

Jehovah gba mi ooooo grin grin

Russell: Jesus is not even Angel Michael but Lord, son of God

Rutherford: Angel Michael is Pope, which is now Jesusgrin grin

MaxInDHouse: Light is getting brighter

Jesus: But when your eye is unhealthy, your whole body is filled with darkness. And if the light you think you have is actually darkness, how deep that darkness is

You are doing yourself with that your lies and manipulations filled brains telling you that your light getting brighter. grin grin grin


cc Emusan, Courz, FxMasterzgrin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18pm On Aug 19
achorladey:

Your mini hibernation don end come join me for here grin
They said at different timezones one was in in Australia the other one was in Middle East grin grin grin
Had your madness and insanities peddling brains worked well you will see that
Jesus the Lord who the Bible called Lord and Savior cannot be the same Pope who your religious organization called the chief of Babylon the great. That is what you call light getting brighter. Na Bridget no be brighter. grin grin grin grin
Jehovah gba mi ooooo grin grin
Russell: Jesus is not even Michael but Lord, son of God
Rutherford: Michael is Pope grin grin
MaxInDHouse: Light is getting brighter
Jesus: But when your eye is unhealthy, your whole body is filled with darkness. And if the light you think you have is actually darkness, how deep that darkness is
You are doing yourself with that your lies and manipulations filled brains telling you that your light getting brighter. grin grin grin

So since both of them never contradicted each other while they're alive it simply the light is GETTING BRIGHTER! Proverbs 4:18 wink
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 9:22pm On Aug 19
MaxInDHouse:


So since both of them never contradicted each other while they're alive it simply the light is GETTING BRIGHTER! Proverbs 4:18 wink

To ensure your madness and insanities peddling brains remain in that state. Contradictions does not matter or hold when they Russell and Rutherford) are both not alive during same time. Contradiction is not contradiction when people are not alive at the same time. It is light getting brighter grin grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:29pm On Aug 19
achorladey:

To ensure your madness and insanities peddling brains remain in that state. Contradictions does not matter or hold when they Russell and Rutherford) are both not alive during same time. Contradiction is not contradiction when people are not alive at the same time. It is light getting brighter grin grin grin grin

Both of them didn't contradict each other while they were alive that's what light getting brighter means! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 9:42pm On Aug 19
MaxInDHouse:


Both of them didn't contradict each other while they were alive that's what light getting brighter means! smiley

It suit your madness and insanities peddling brains that they contradicted one another while one is dead the other alive grin grin grin grin

That's what contradiction meant for your lies and manipulations filled brains that when one person is dead and the other alive it is called light is getting brighter.

1+1 =. 2 = Russell

1+1 = 3 = Rutherford

MaxInDHouse: It is not contradiction in his madness and insanities peddling brains because Russell is dead and Rutherford is alive rather, it is light getting brighter. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


@ Courz, Emusan and FxMasterz who do this guy like this? 🤣🤣😂🤣

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 7:25am On Aug 20
achorladey:


It suit your madness and insanities peddling brains that they contradicted one another while one is dead the other alive grin grin grin grin

That's what contradiction meant for your lies and manipulations filled brains that when one person is dead and the other alive it is called light is getting brighter.

1+1 =. 2 = Russell

1+1 = 3 = Rutherford

MaxInDHouse: It is not contradiction in his madness and insanities peddling brains because Russell is dead and Rutherford is alive rather, it is light getting brighter. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


@ Courz, Emusan and FxMasterz who do this guy like this?
wetin dey happen
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 8:22am On Aug 20
Kingsempires:
wetin dey happen

Jesus is not Angel Michael and is son = Russell

Angel Michael is Pope = Rutherford

According to MaxInDHouse the above is light is getting brighter on who Jesus really is and that Russell and Rutherford are not contradicting one another about who Jesus is.


Na wetin dey happen.

Should I say 1+1 = 2

and you say 1+1 = 3 as being members of the same church MaxInDHouse says we are not contradicting one another about the truth. Light is only getting brighter about what 1+1 really equals to grin grin grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 9:05am On Aug 20
achorladey:


Jesus is not Angel Michael and is son = Russell

Angel Michael is Pope = Rutherford

According to MaxInDHouse the above is light is getting brighter on who Jesus really is and that Russell and Rutherford are not contradicting one another about who Jesus is.


Na wetin dey happen.

Should I say 1+1 = 2

and you say 1+1 = 3 as being members of the same church MaxInDHouse says we are not contradicting one another about the truth. Light is only getting brighter about what 1+1 really equals to grin grin grin grin
This one that they are saying Jesus is Angel micheal. Na that one dey suprise me shocked

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 9:12am On Aug 20
Kingsempires:
This one that they are saying Jesus is Angel micheal. Na that one dey suprise me shocked

When they say the same Angel Michael is Pope wetin we go call that one? grin grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Kingsempires(m): 9:45am On Aug 20
achorladey:


When they say the same Angel Michael is Pope wetin we go call that one? grin grin grin
"JESUS CHRIST" !!! shocked

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 1:26pm On Aug 20
Kingsempires:
This one that they are saying Jesus is Angel micheal. Na that one dey suprise me shocked
Oga below is commentaries from Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary saying that Jesus is Michael in the bible. They both believe in the Trinity. They are not JWs. So why una still dey mention JW?

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 2:54pm On Aug 20
Michael547:
Oga leave me and JWs out of this.....go and meet your fellow Trinitarians who says that Michael is Jesus.

I can't leave you and Jws out of this even though I never involve Jws in the first place.

My simple questions which you failed to addressed since are for YOU not Jws.

So I don't know why you want me to go and meet fellow Trinitarians who says Jesus is Michael rather than YOU provide the answer from the scripture you used earlier.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was CALLED ONLY ARCHANGEL?

These are questions from the scripture and not from any one...

When you are done convincing them, we can now have a discussion.

I don't need to convince them.

Consider this scenario, Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's have been done since 1500's & 1600's but at around 1900's Watchtower was teaching that ARCHANGEL Michael is the Pope.

Now, imagine Jws been confronted with Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's where they teach that Jesus is the ARCHANGEL Michael.

Jws would call them all sort of imprinted names flipping different pages of Watchtower and cherry pick Bible verses to show Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's were wrong and they are the one who hold the TRUTH.

Today, if those Jws could come back to life and their fellow Jws now using the same Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's to support their claim that Jesus was truly the ARCHANGEL Michael, I'm such they'll look stupid and more confused (even in usual sense that is what they always look like)

So, using the materials of those you once called/currently call all sort of imprinted names when you still believe that THEY HOLD NO TRUTH should be your great concerns.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 3:03pm On Aug 20
Emusan:


I can't leave you and Jws out of this even though I never involve Jws in the first place.

My simple questions which you failed to addressed since are for YOU not Jws.

So I don't know why you want me to go and meet fellow Trinitarians who says Jesus is Michael rather than YOU provide the answer from the scripture you used earlier.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was CALLED ONLY ARCHANGEL?

These are questions from the scripture and not from any one...



I don't need to convince them.

Consider this scenario, Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's have been done since 1500's & 1600's but at around 1900's Watchtower was teaching that ARCHANGEL Michael is the Pope.

Now, imagine Jws been confronted with Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's where they teach that Jesus is the ARCHANGEL Michael.

Jws would call them all sort of imprinted names flipping different pages of Watchtower and cherry pick Bible verses to show Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's were wrong and they are the one who hold the TRUTH.

Today, if those Jws could come back to life and their fellow Jws now using the same Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's to support their claim that Jesus was truly the ARCHANGEL Michael, I'm such they'll look stupid and more confused (even in usual sense that is what they always look like)

So, using the materials of those you once called/currently call all sort of imprinted names when you still believe that THEY HOLD NO TRUTH should be your great concerns.
You are wasting your time with me. Go and convince your fellow Trinitarians first

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 3:05pm On Aug 20
Michael547:

Oga below is commentaries from Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's commentary saying that Jesus is Michael in the bible. They both believe in the Trinity. They are not JWs. So why una still dey mention JW?

Did Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's tell you they are SPEAKING FOR THE WHOLE TRINITARIANS?

Even those your screenshots were COMMENTARIES not AUTHORITY and if they are around today, their might have changed.

So, why do you want to force their COMMENTARIES on ALL TRINITARIANS as if THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO MADE COMMENTARY for the whole Bible?

You people are the same person who will claim WE DON'T AGREE AMONG OURSELVES but here you are you want to change narration that robs oil in your palms.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 3:06pm On Aug 20
Emusan:


Did Geneva Study Bible and Matthew Poole's tell you they are SPEAKING FOR THE WHOLE TRINITARIANS?

Even those your screenshots were COMMENTARIES not AUTHORITY and if they are around today, their might have changed.

So, why do you want to force their COMMENTARIES on ALL TRINITARIANS as if THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO MADE COMMENTARY for the whole Bible?

You people are the same person who will claim WE DON'T AGREE AMONG OURSELVES but here you are you want to change narration that robs oil in your palms.
If the commentaries are not authority, are you now the authority?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 3:09pm On Aug 20
Michael547:

You are wasting your time with me. Go and convince your fellow Trinitarians first

Just as you're wasting your time telling me to go and convince them.

Where are they today?

You have their address?

The people you're talking about are ALL LONG DEAD before even C.T Russell was born.

Rather, I'll tell you to go and ask them if their view is still the same today.

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 3:11pm On Aug 20
Michael547:

If the commentaries are not authority, are you now the authority?

You read the word COMMENTARY and you are calling it AUTHORITY.

Did you read it from their books they are passing AUTHORITY?

Well, if you think it's AUTHORITY then the same authority has bind you for every page of their books.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 3:14pm On Aug 20
Emusan:


Just as you're wasting your time telling me to go and convince them.

Where are they today?

You have their address?

The people you're talking about are ALL LONG DEAD before even C.T Russell was born.

Rather, I'll tell you to go and ask them if their view is still the same today.

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Alright....sorry they are dead....but their teaches and views are held by many people today who believe in the Trinity. So please go and convince your fellow Trinitarians first.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 3:15pm On Aug 20
Emusan:


You read the word COMMENTARY and you are calling it AUTHORITY.

Did you read it from their books they are passing AUTHORITY?

Well, if you think it's AUTHORITY then the same authority has bind you for every page of their books.
So who has authority of interpretation today? Is it you?

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