Michael547:

Alright....sorry they are dead....but their teaches and views are held by many people today who believe in the Trinity.

Good that means not only Watchtower holds the Truth.

Do you agree?

So please go and convince your fellow Trinitarians first.

Give me the address of those who still believe their teaching first, at least we can verify if they still hold unto the same teaching today.

Michael547:

So who has authority of interpretation today? Is it you?

COMMENTARY

INTERPRETATION

Are common words you can find their meaning in dictionary, and if you don't have one Google is very much available.

If anyone has AUTHORITY over it Watchtower won't exist today not to talk of you believing lies.

Emusan:


COMMENTARY

INTERPRETATION

Are common words you can find their meaning in dictionary, and if you don't have one Google is very much available.

If anyone has AUTHORITY over it Watchtower won't exist today not to talk of you believing lies.

Oga so who has authority/interpretation today? Who should we listen to?

Emusan:


Good that means not only Watchtower holds the Truth.

Do you agree?



Give me the address of those who still believe their teaching first, at least we can verify if they still hold unto the same teaching today.

Oga the Seventh day Adventist members today believe that Michael is Jesus and they hold the Trinity doctrine. Go and convince them.

Michael547:
Oga so who has authority/interpretation today? Who should we listen to?

Now using style to drift away from the earlier points.

Do you agree that you lied that "Jesus was called ARCHANGEL Michael ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT"?

Emusan:


Now using style to drift away from the earlier points.

Do you agree that you lied that "Jesus was called ARCHANGEL Michael ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT"?

Oga don't ask me questions.....ask your fellow Trinitarians. Why are you also drifting from the question of who has Authority/interpretation of scriptures today?

Michael547:

Oga the Seventh day Adventist members today believe that Michael is Jesus and they hold the Trinity doctrine. Go and convince them.

I'm glad,

So, Seventh Day Adventist who produced Russell got it RIGHT and Jesus didn't choose them but the people Jesus chosen were still confused and teaching flip-flops about the identity of the person who choose them

Well, did SDA tell you they are student of Geneva study Bible and Matthew Poole's?

Emusan:


I'm glad,

So, Seventh Day Adventist who produced Russell got it RIGHT and Jesus didn't choose them but the people Jesus chosen were still confused and teaching flip-flops about the identity of the person who choose them

Well, did SDA tell you they are student of Geneva study Bible and Matthew Poole's?

Oga are Seventh day Adventist true Christians?
Yes or no?

Kingsempires:
wetin dey happen

Is it possible you ask your friends to present their own teachings to you instead of following whatever Jehovah's Witnesses have deliberated in the past?

Michael547:
Oga don't ask me questions.....

You're very dull for this.
You type your rubbish and ask questions but telling others not to do the same.

ask your fellow Trinitarians.

I already did

Why are you also drifting from the question of who has Authority/interpretation of scriptures today?

See this one, I'm always drifting but you are the very person who has not answer these questions since the beginning of this discussion.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was ONLY CALLED ARCHANGEL MICHAEL? As you earlier said on this thread.

Since I asked these questions, the thread has added more than 2 pages.

So who is drifting from question between you and I?

Michael547:

Oga are Seventh day Adventist true Christians?
Yes or no?

Yes! If they see themselves as ONE.

So Oga, are Seventh Day Advent TRUE CHRISTIAN since they believe Jesus is Angel Michael?

Emusan:


Just as you're wasting your time telling me to go and convince them.

Where are they today?

You have their address?

The people you're talking about are ALL LONG DEAD before even C.T Russell was born.

Rather, I'll tell you to go and ask them if their view is still the same today.

Looool

[quote author=Michael547 post=131604538]
So who has authority of interpretation today? Is it you?[/quote
It is Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

Emusan:


COMMENTARY

INTERPRETATION

Are common words you can find their meaning in dictionary, and if you don't have one Google is very much available.

If anyone has AUTHORITY over it Watchtower won't exist today not to talk of you believing lies.

The same authority that says Jesus is not created and Jesus is eternal. That part of authority is not part of what they want

Michael547:

Oga the Seventh day Adventist members today believe that Michael is Jesus and they hold the Trinity doctrine. Go and convince them.

Jehovah's Witnesses get brothers in faith that Michael is Jesus and Michael547 don't worship with them

Emusan:


Now using style to drift away from the earlier points.

Do you agree that you lied that "Jesus was called ARCHANGEL Michael ONLY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT"?

Agree ke, na to start looking for questions he cannot ask his own authority

Emusan:


I'm glad,

So, Seventh Day Adventist who produced Russell got it RIGHT and Jesus didn't choose them but the people Jesus chosen were still confused and teaching flip-flops about the identity of the person who choose them

Well, did SDA tell you they are student of Geneva study Bible and Matthew Poole's?

Jehovah cannot chose SDA because they didn't teach Angel Michael is Pope

Michael547:

Oga are Seventh day Adventist true Christians?
Yes or no?

They are true Christians just like Jehovah’s witnesses since they both agree that Angel Michael is Jesus

It is only true Christians that teach that as part of their better performing performance group

MaxInDHouse:


Is it possible you ask your friends to present their own teachings to you instead of following whatever Jehovah's Witnesses have deliberated in the past?

This one looking for room to save his head and face from lies and manipulations packed into his brains by his taskmasters

Emusan:


You're very dull for this.
You type your rubbish and ask questions but telling others not to do the same.



I already did



See this one, I'm always drifting but you are the very person who has not answer these questions since the beginning of this discussion.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was ONLY CALLED ARCHANGEL MICHAEL? As you earlier said on this thread.

Since I asked these questions, the thread has added more than 2 pages.

So who is drifting from question between you and I?

No be the same student that was afraid to learn and afraid of failure the other time

Emusan:


Yes! If they see themselves as ONE.

So Oga, are Seventh Day Advent TRUE CHRISTIAN since they believe Jesus is Angel Michael?

Wahala

Michael547 wetin dey mind to type regarding this?

Emusan:


Yes! If they see themselves as ONE.

So Oga, are Seventh Day Advent TRUE CHRISTIAN since they believe Jesus is Angel Michael?

Lol....are you not funny....what do you mean that If they see themselves as one?
Do you see yourself as one with them?

So if the Seventh day Adventist are true Christians irrespective of their interpretation of Daniel 10:13, then why are you bothered about my view of that verse?

Emusan:


You're very dull for this.
You type your rubbish and ask questions but telling others not to do the same.



I already did



See this one, I'm always drifting but you are the very person who has not answer these questions since the beginning of this discussion.

1. What is the meaning of ARCHANGEL?
2. Where in the New Testament Jesus was ONLY CALLED ARCHANGEL MICHAEL? As you earlier said on this thread.

Since I asked these questions, the thread has added more than 2 pages.

So who is drifting from question between you and I?

Go and ask your fellow Trinitarians those questions. I won't answer them.

Michael547:

Oga the Seventh day Adventist members today believe that Michael is Jesus and they hold the Trinity doctrine. Go and convince them.

But those people don't worship on sunday like us

Kingsempires:
But those people don't worship on sunday like us

Yeah....true....there is no commandment on the specific day to worship in the bible for Christians.

MaxInDHouse:


Is it possible you ask your friends to present their own teachings to you instead of following whatever Jehovah's Witnesses have deliberated in the past?

what is that that the JWS deliberated in the past ?

Michael547:

Yeah....true....there is no commandment on the specific day to worship in the bible for Christians.

. responds to the point of Kingsempires the questions asked by Emusan threaten the cover or lid placed over your lies

achorladey:


. responds to the point of Kingsempires the questions asked by Emusan threaten the cover or lid placed over your lies

Make I wait for maxinDhouse To answer the question

Kingsempires:

what is that that the JWS deliberated in the past ?

Before Jesus told his disciples that John is the expected Elijah who were God's people expecting?

gohf:
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

Jesus is not the Father, but he is the physical manifestation of the Father.

He is God in very essence. His statements affirm this truth. But on earth, he functioned as a man became of his mission but he is a God being.

Can an ordinary man make statements like;

Before Abraham was, I am.

He accepted worship. Man does not accept worship.

Read John 17 and listen to his conversation with his Father.

Jesus is fully God but he is not the father.

The Father is invisible. If you want to see the Father, look at Jesus.

Ken4Christ:


Jesus is not the Father, but he is the physical manifestation of the Father.

He is God in very essence. His statements affirm this truth. But on earth, he functioned as a man became of his mission but he is a God being.

Can an ordinary man make statements like;

Before Abraham was, I am.

He accepted worship. Man does not accept worship.

Read John 17 and listen to his conversation with his Father.

Jesus is fully God but he is not the father.

The Father is invisible. If you want to see the Father, look at Jesus.

So what is the name of the Father?

Michael547:

So what is the name of the Father?

Is that your problem? The Old Testament Saints called him by different names but Jesus calls him Father. So, I call him Father also.