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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:32am On Aug 21
petesunday:
Ghadaffi was not a saint. Was Obama a saint? What gave the right to someone who is not a saint to murder another person who is not a saint simply because they are richer and more powerful?

You said the US had legal backing. Don't equate the support of 40 or so puppet NATO as legality. Did the UN approve it?

Answer yes or no.


Please stop mentioning me, I don't entertain clowns nor their quotes, go read up the UNSC resolution 1973
The UNITED NATIONS SERCURITY COUNCIL gave the go ahead for military intervention in Libya

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 8:34am On Aug 21
What about when a Jewish settler kills a Palestinian and gets protected by the Zionist regime, what do you think will happen?
Lawag3:


So when a Palestinian that kills a Jew escape into the west bank what do you expect will happen.


Israel violates Palestinian reproductive rights and their population is still growing even in the face of decades of genocide.


Religious persecution? You do know Israel has more Muslims than Palestine has Jews? That is if any of them are Jews. Alqasa mosque is open to every moslem even Palestinians.

My man don't be foolish

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 8:41am On Aug 21
You are talking about a sham resolution without the support of Russia and China who are permanent members.
The NATO alliance also far exceeded the UN mandate to 'defend' only and not support any parties thereby leading Russia to object later on.

Meanwhile, you haven't answered my question on Syrian oil.

obedience4:



Please stop mentioning me, I don't entertain clowns nor their quotes, go read up the UNSC resolution 1973
The UNITED NATIONS SERCURITY COUNCIL gave the go ahead for military intervention in Libya



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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 8:44am On Aug 21
obedience4:



Please stop mentioning me, I don't entertain clowns nor their quotes, go read up the UNSC resolution 1973
The UNITED NATIONS SERCURITY COUNCIL gave the go ahead for military intervention in Libya



forget about libya who gave US the right to occupy syria ?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:55am On Aug 21
petesunday:
You are talking about a sham resolution without the support of Russia and China who are permanent members.
The NATO alliance also far exceeded the UN mandate to 'defend' only and not support any parties thereby leading Russia to object later on.



You see this is the reason I don't want to engage with you in the first place, There seems to be a modus operandi about you guys jumping from pillar to post instead of simply accepting correction,first you ask for legality now you called a UNSC resolution a sham.

They are three ways to vote in a UNSC resolution, either you vote YES or No or you simply Abstain, If the Russians or Chinese never wanted the resolution to stand they had the power to vetoed the process and the US and Co won't have any legal framework to used to attack Libya.

Nigeria, Gabon, South Africa were the three Africa countries holding the Africa slots in the UNSC during the resolution and voted "Yes" I guess nigeria, Gabon,and south Africa are also NATO countries.

I will not be entertaining anymore discuss from you
Have a nice day
.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mysticwarrior(m): 8:57am On Aug 21
Cancri:
for a resolution to be pass all 5 permanent must agreed to it, some may abstain

For example if the USA proposed a military intervention in Russia for the genocide of Ukrainians, all members including Russia must either vote in favour or abstain from voting.
But Russia have vetoed all resolution.
If you don't understand this oversimplified answer, then you are a dumb motherfucker
That question was not meant for you but you quickly jumped out to help your allied to contest my question at the same time failed to answer the question.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:02am On Aug 21
soqmeov:

A reporter once asked the dumb US secretary of state how they came to the conclusion that on one hand, China is commiting genocide against Uyghurs in Xinjiang (without any substantial or sensible evidence),while on the other, they haven't seen any sign of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza(despite overwhelming evidence).
It's no surprise that their fanboys are saying the same crap.
🤡🇺🇸🤡🇺🇸🤡

It's the normal double standards of the west.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:04am On Aug 21
FoolishBoy419:


Honestly, I can understand their support for the West (visa things 😂) but it takes a special level of mental retardation to believe China is committing genocide while Israel is not.

Call it reverse zombiesm.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 9:08am On Aug 21
Watcharena:
forget about libya who gave US the right to occupy syria ?

The moment isis started killing US citizens and beheading them on live videos, the US exercise its rights to defend its citizens and interests, As syria was the epicentre of the ISIS's operations.

Also the Syria government had lost its ability to defend its sovereignty and territorial intergerity thus could not deal with the ISIS's problem, hence the US had to step in.

same thing Iran did when ISIS's became a problem for them too, they also went into Syria, and fought ISIS's

Also kindly answer what rights does Russia have for invading and annexing Ukrainian territories, I will be waiting for your response on the legal framework on the Russia war in Ukraine and the annexing of Ukrainian lands.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 9:09am On Aug 21
How many times has the UNGA condemned Israel?
obedience4:



Stop mentioning me, go and research more about the UNSC, You clearly do not have an iota of idea of what you are vigorously agureing about.

All the resolutions the US tried to pass through the security Council about the Ukraine war was vetoed by RUSSIA. All permanent members of the UNSC, the US, FRANCE, UK, CHINA, RUSSIA. All have veto powers meaning they could easily block any resolution by the UNSC, which the Russians have done so far.

The UNGA "United nations general assembly" has pass a resolution condemning the Russia invasion of Ukraine, also they passed a resolution asking Russia to withdraw its forces against Ukraine.

The united nations security council "UNSC" the major decision body within the UN has failed to pass even a formal communique about the Ukraine war because Russia has voted all resolution brought forward by the US concerning the war in Ukraine.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 9:13am On Aug 21
Beating about the bush as usual.
Meanwhile I have caught you red handed lying about US stealing oil from Syria.

obedience4:



You see this is the reason I don't want to engage with you in the first place, There seems to be a modus operandi about you guys jumping from pillar to post instead of simply accepting correction,first you ask for legality now you called a UNSC resolution a sham.

They are three ways to vote in a UNSC resolution, either you vote YES or No or you simply Abstain, If the Russians or Chinese never wanted the resolution to stand they had the power to vetoed the process and the US and Co won't have any legal framework to used to attack Libya.

Nigeria, Gabon, South Africa were the three Africa countries holding the Africa slots in the UNSC during the resolution and voted "Yes" I guess nigeria, Gabon,and south Africa are also NATO countries.

I will not be entertaining anymore discuss from you
Have a nice day
.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 9:16am On Aug 21
Okay. USA was one of the earliest funders of ISIS and there is a lot of evidence supporting this. How do you fund terrorists to destabilisea sovereign country, then occupy the country under the guise of fighting the terrorists you funded?

Meanwhile, do you now agree US is stealing Syria's oil?

obedience4:


The moment isis started killing US citizens and beheading them on live videos, the US exercise its rights to defend its citizens and interests, As syria was the epicentre of the ISIS's operations.

Also the Syria government had lost its ability to defend its sovereignty and territorial intergerity thus could not deal with the ISIS's problem, hence the US had to step in.

same thing Iran did when ISIS's became a problem for them too, they also went into Syria, and fought ISIS's

Also kindly answer what rights does Russia have for invading and annexing Ukrainian territories, I will be waiting for your response on the legal framework on the Russia war in Ukraine and the annexing of Ukrainian lands.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mysticwarrior(m): 9:19am On Aug 21
Appleyard:


It's the normal double standards of the west.
That was how the same west came out with a questionable pretext about Saddam having WMDs leading them to invade Iraq.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 9:19am On Aug 21
1. The Ukrainian territories of Donbass were once part of Russia and they were being persecuted by the Ukrainian regime for deciding to secede.

2. Ukraine announced openly its decision to join NATO, an alliance openly against Russia. Also, it has always being a trend for US to put military bases on NATO territory. Russia doesn't want to be a sitting duck, so it went in.


obedience4:


The moment isis started killing US citizens and beheading them on live videos, the US exercise its rights to defend its citizens and interests, As syria was the epicentre of the ISIS's operations.

Also the Syria government had lost its ability to defend its sovereignty and territorial intergerity thus could not deal with the ISIS's problem, hence the US had to step in.

same thing Iran did when ISIS's became a problem for them too, they also went into Syria, and fought ISIS's

Also kindly answer what rights does Russia have for invading and annexing Ukrainian territories, I will be waiting for your response on the legal framework on the Russia war in Ukraine and the annexing of Ukrainian lands.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 9:21am On Aug 21
Iran and Russia were invited by the Syrian govt. US was not.
obedience4:


The moment isis started killing US citizens and beheading them on live videos, the US exercise its rights to defend its citizens and interests, As syria was the epicentre of the ISIS's operations.

Also the Syria government had lost its ability to defend its sovereignty and territorial intergerity thus could not deal with the ISIS's problem, hence the US had to step in.

same thing Iran did when ISIS's became a problem for them too, they also went into Syria, and fought ISIS's

Also kindly answer what rights does Russia have for invading and annexing Ukrainian territories, I will be waiting for your response on the legal framework on the Russia war in Ukraine and the annexing of Ukrainian lands.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Dvdpity: 9:44am On Aug 21
obedience4:


The moment isis started killing US citizens and beheading them on live videos, the US exercise its rights to defend its citizens and interests, As syria was the epicentre of the ISIS's operations.

Also the Syria government had lost its ability to defend its sovereignty and territorial intergerity thus could not deal with the ISIS's problem, hence the US had to step in.

same thing Iran did when ISIS's became a problem for them too, they also went into Syria, and fought ISIS's

Also kindly answer what rights does Russia have for invading and annexing Ukrainian territories, I will be waiting for your response on the legal framework on the Russia war in Ukraine and the annexing of Ukrainian lands.

You are just mad, what is USA doing in Syria? If your Citizens are not safe in another country, you pull them out, back to your own country. You have no right to invade a country miles away from your border on whatever pretenses.

USA is just a terrorist country. Killing women and children as they see fit and justifying their war crimes with threats and media gratifications.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 9:53am On Aug 21
petesunday:
1. The Ukrainian territories of Donbass were once part of Russia and they were being persecuted by the Ukrainian regime for deciding to secede.

2. Ukraine announced openly its decision to join NATO, an alliance openly against Russia. Also, it has always being a trend for US to put military bases on NATO territory. Russia doesn't want to be a sitting duck, so it went in.




Your hypocrisy stinks, how was the dombass once part of Russia, 🤣🤣🤣, Ukraine and Russia were all once under the Soviet Union, now let's take your imaginary assertions that dombass was once a Russian territory is that a legal right to invade another country, because the bakassi peninsular was once under Nigeria control, it would now be legal for Nigeria to wake up one day and invade Cameroon
You are even worse than VIc
.

So your thinking is that a sovereign nation like Ukraine can't decide which alliance it can join because of Russia, so if Cuba were to join a military alliance with Russia the US should invade it, oga stop mentioning me oooo, I take God beg you.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 9:56am On Aug 21
petesunday:
Beating about the bush as usual.
Meanwhile I have caught you red handed lying about US stealing oil from Syria.


In regards to your Syria oil theft, I read the links all I see were mere propaganda from the Chinese, there is nothing substantial about your links. I couldn't find any evidence of any oil theft

Stop feeling good about that all you posted was propaganda

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:17am On Aug 21
Dvdpity:


You are just mad, what is USA doing in Syria? If your Citizens are not safe in another country, you pull them out, back to your own country. You have no right to invade a country miles away from your border on whatever pretenses.

USA is just a terrorist country. Killing women and children as they see fit and justifying their war crimes with threats and media gratifications.


Do you even know how terrorist work, yet isis although based in the middle east was able to carry out attacks in Turkey, France, Belgium and the USA.
The USA and others should not intervene they should let the ISIS's group continue to grow continue to carry out attacks aboard the same ISIS'S that had also established official "provinces" in LIBYA, EGYPT (Sinai Peninsula), SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN, ALGERIA, Afghani3stan, PAKISTAN, NIGERIA and the North Caucasus. The group even received pledges of allegiance and published media releases via groups in SOMALIA, BANGLADESH, INDONESIA, MYANMAR,THAILAND and the PHILIPPINES, yet you don't want the world to interfer because they don't share borders with syria
.


Ode but you can justify Russia invasion of Ukraine, Russia ain't a terrorist state for killing women and children in Ukraine, you are either a terrorist, a potential terrorist or you are terrorism sympathetic.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:39pm On Aug 21
petesunday:
What about when a Jewish settler kills a Palestinian and gets protected by the Zionist regime, what do you think will happen?

I deal in facts boy any Jewish settler that kills a Palestinian and has been proven guilty is usually punished. Unlike Palestinians who protect and celebrate their martyr
Like hamas.

Goldstein killed Palestinians in a mosque open fire on them

Goldstein was widely denounced in Israel and by communities in the Jewish diaspora,[8] with many attributing his act to insanity.[9] Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin on live TV condemned the attack, describing Goldstein as a "degenerate murderer" and "a shame on Zionism and an embarrassment to Judaism

Which Palestinian leader have ever done that?

Kach was an extremist Jewish party do you know what happened to this party?

The party was ultimately also barred from standing in the 1992 election, and both organisations were banned outright in 1994 by the Israeli cabinet under 1948 anti-terrorism laws,[5] following statements in support of Baruch Goldstein's massacre of 29 Palestinians at the Cave of the Patriarchs (Goldstein himself was a Kach supporterHowever, it was barred from participating in the next election in 1988 under the revised Knesset Elections Law banning parties that incited racism. After Kahane's ass-assi-nation in 1990,( by the way he was killed by mossad he was Jewish by the way that believed all Palestinians must die)

Both groups are designated as terrorist organisations by Israel

Unlike it's equivalent Hamas supported by majority of Palestine.

Disprove what I said up their.

I have a video of the trial of the soldiers who sexually abused a Palestinian prisoner. The lawyer who defended them said its was a legitimate mode of torture every one in the court booed him although two of the soldiers were released the rest are in prison awaiting their sentences.


Show me a Palestinians equivalent

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:42pm On Aug 21
petesunday:
The native Americans are still being deprived and segregated till today. Some of their communities still lack basic amenities.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/12/12/569910574/native-americans-feel-invisible-in-u-s-health-care-system



My man is that genocide? You said genocide are Black's in America not suffering even worse (although I blame them) are they being genocided.


I'm not suprised most of you don't know what genocide is.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:53pm On Aug 21
petesunday:
In the Bible, the Israelites continue growing in population despite persecution from Egyptians. Mind you, cultural assimilation into another culture can lead to declining population. Israel is killing Palestinians rn mass, China is assimilating the Uighurs but you think China is worse abi?


They were not being genocided and according to the bible the persecution only happened under one particular pharaoh. Gaza's genocide is has lasted for more than 70 years.

Now anserw this question truthfully is the total deaths of Palestinians since the first nakbah up to a million.

One thing you should know is that the Israelites / Jews never generally assimilate from captivity in Egypt they lived in Goshen not among the Egyptians .


In Babylon the story of Daniel and his friends not eating the kings food and not worshipping his God should tell you something.


In Persia same thing Esther was a Jewish queen of Persia the Jews were allowed to kill their enemies by the Persian king on a Jewish celebration and they are accounts of Jews celebrating the Passover in Persia.


In Rome the Jews were literally killed for not assimilating and accepting Christianity.


And that's why no matter where you are as a Jew if you are ask who liberated the Jews form Egypt the answer will be Moses.


Forcefully arresting millions of Uighur men forcing the women to abort their babies forcing the children to attend government owned boarding schools renoucing Islam stopping them from learning the Uighur language is better.


Palestinians die in wars began by Palestinians they always almost attack first. Hamas use them as shields using their schools hospital and other CIVILLIAN infastrustures. Deny this fact and if you can't deny it what should Israel do let them be did the Russian you all love not blow up a children's hospital for this same reason?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 1:03pm On Aug 21
Fighttillvictory:
you seems to be the foolish one for you to say the biafran genocide was not a genocide.

When did I say that? I ask if it was a genocide? Many here do not consider that a genocide a war of three years over 2 million dead. A genocide of over 70 years less than 700k dead
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 1:04pm On Aug 21
Fighttillvictory:
you seems to be the foolish one for you to say the biafran genocide was not a genocide.

And by the way Bleep off next time understand the context before you argue
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mille: 1:31pm On Aug 21
Lawag3:


I deal in facts boy any Jewish settler that kills a Palestinian and has been proven guilty is usually punished. Unlike Palestinians who protect and celebrate their martyr
Like hamas.

Goldstein killed Palestinians in a mosque open fire on them

Goldstein was widely denounced in Israel and by communities in the Jewish diaspora,[8] with many attributing his act to insanity

You must think you're talking to kindergarteners. Widely denounced in Israel yet there is an annual memorial event held for the terrorist.

We have addressed the issue of Goldstein and other Jewish terrorists before here when one overzealous Christian claimed there are no Jewish terrorists.

Or will you tell me this is not the statement on the plaque attached to his grave?

To the holy Baruch Goldstein, who gave his life for the Jewish people, the Torah , and the land of Israel.”

Abi is it not this same Israel who just last month protested for the right to rape Palestinian prisoners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheO4qknRUA?si=5upecPC5BAlmxUh3

It will not be well with you for spreading falsehood. Useless Christian terrorist.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 1:51pm On Aug 21
petesunday:
Okay. USA was one of the earliest funders of ISIS and there is a lot of evidence supporting this. How do you fund terrorists to destabilisea sovereign country, then occupy the country under the guise of fighting the terrorists you funded?

Meanwhile, do you now agree US is stealing Syria's oil?

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 2:00pm On Aug 21
Lawag3:


When did I say that? I ask if it was a genocide? Many here do not consider that a genocide a war of three years over 2 million dead. A genocide of over 70 years less than 700k dead
what is called genocide according to your dictionary

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 2:35pm On Aug 21
obedience4:



Do you even know how terrorist work, yet isis although based in the middle east was able to carry out attacks in Turkey, France, Belgium and the USA.
The USA and others should not intervene they should let the ISIS's group continue to grow continue to carry out attacks aboard the same ISIS'S that had also established official "provinces" in LIBYA, EGYPT (Sinai Peninsula), SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN, ALGERIA, Afghani3stan, PAKISTAN, NIGERIA and the North Caucasus. The group even received pledges of allegiance and published media releases via groups in SOMALIA, BANGLADESH, INDONESIA, MYANMAR,THAILAND and the PHILIPPINES, yet you don't want the world to interfer because they don't share borders with syria
.


Ode but you can justify Russia invasion of Ukraine, Russia ain't a terrorist state for killing women and children in Ukraine, you are either a terrorist, a potential terrorist or you are terrorism sympathetic.
Clown you are.. Seems you don't know anything about how US policy works.
The same anti-goverment rebels US arms are the same people that becomes terrorist, they know the risk yet they do it.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 2:51pm On Aug 21
Vic2023:
what is called genocide according to your dictionary

Why are you asking me some of you have used that word more times in the last 8 months than you have since you were born.

Let me just say this what makes a genocide is the intent to exterminate to completely cleans


According to some of you Israel has been intent on wiping out Palestinians since 1948. If it's true this sould be the longest genocide ever. But it isn't genocide do not span 7 decades without showing any effect on the population of the people being killed take a look at other genuine accounts of genocide.


Oct 7 was just a day an over a thousand Jews were killed

In a month that will be 30k if we follow the first day rate.


In 8 months that will be over 200k dead.


Let's not forget that Hamas has deliberately placed Palestinians in harms way.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:59pm On Aug 21
American mercenary gone too soon fighting for UAF

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 3:01pm On Aug 21
Australian BushMaster destroyed in Kursk

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 3:03pm On Aug 21
mobilization in Ukraine.. Mothers are protecting their son

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