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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 12:03am On Aug 22
Janosky:


Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
Bible truth opposed by WAILING WAILERS.

Jesus who cried & EXPIRED in your own Bible @ Matthew 27:46,50 is eternal?

Every angel is a creature.
Achorladey awon WEREY MUMU for life.

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That's why your werey peddling brains is yet to give a bible verse that says Jesus is Angel Michael = Pope in times past grin grin grin

Jesus who cried & EXPIRED in your own Bible @ Matthew 27:46,50 is eternal?

The words of Trinitarians says that same Jesus that you believe is Michael states so. grin cheesy cheesy

Every angel is a creature.
Achorladey awon WEREY MUMU for life.[/b]
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Angel Michael is a creator. I know your werey and mumu peddling brains will start looking for ways to counter that now grin cheesy cheesy cheesygrin cheesy grin cheesy

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Ken4Christ: 6:27am On Aug 22
Michael547:

So you mean God does not have a personal name in the old testament? If yes, how do you explain psalm 83:18 and John 17:26 in the screenshot below?

How does that affect your walk with him. That you have this knowledge doesn't save you. Salvation is in the name of Jesus;

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Do you call your earthly father by his name or you call him daddy or father or papa? Jesus called him father. Well, you can't because you are not his child yet. If you are, the spirit of God in you will cry Abba Father.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:39am On Aug 22
Ken4Christ:


How does that affect your walk with him. That you have this knowledge doesn't save you. Salvation is in the name of Jesus;

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Do you call your earthly father by his name or you call him daddy or father or papa? Jesus called him father. Well, you can't because you are not his child yet. If you are, the spirit of God in you will cry Abba Father.

You're misconstruing the whole thing, there are two persons whose names are for the salvation of mankind!

@ John 17:3 Jesus said:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. KJV


Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. NIV‬


This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. NWT

But why was Peter emphasizing on only Jesus' name in those verses?

Because those listening to him were Judaists who already knew the name of Jehovah so the fact that they're already familiar with that name makes it compulsory for them to know the name of God's servants through whom we must be saved!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Ken4Christ: 7:09am On Aug 22
MaxInDHouse:


You're misconstruing the whole thing, there are two persons whose names are for the salvation of mankind!

@ John 17:3 Jesus said:



But why was Peter emphasizing on only Jesus' name in those verses?

Because those listening to him were Judaists who already knew the name of Jehovah so the fact that they're already familiar with that name makes it compulsory for them to know the name of God's servants through whom we must be saved!







My friend, the emphasis is on the name of Jesus. If you believe in Jehovah but don't believe in Jesus, you cannot be saved. Jesus was sent by God his Father and you must believe in Jesus to be saved;

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:27am On Aug 22
Ken4Christ:


My friend, the emphasis is on the name of Jesus. If you believe in Jehovah but don't believe in Jesus, you cannot be saved. Jesus was sent by God his Father and you must believe in Jesus to be saved;

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


The highlighted says it all, you must believe in the two before you can be saved!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 10:41am On Aug 22
Janosky:


Go & demand answers from your fellow Trinitarians believing that Jesus is archangel Michael.
They have provided the new testament verses for their beliefs.
Oga STOP WAILING.
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Emusan LYING miscreant deceiving himself. grin

Trinitarian Adventists church= Revelation 12:7-9.
Trinitarian John Gill= Jude 1:9.
Trinitarian Geneva Bible= Daniel 10:13.
Trinitarian Matthew Poole= Hebrew 1:4-7.

From the old testament to the new testament, your Trinitarian mentors were convinced that Jesus is archangel Michael.

Very correct.

First of all, this line of your delusion isn't new to me.

Secondly, Watchtower is a product of Seventh Day Adventist which means they actually copied that doctrine from them.

Lastly, this reinforced my point that NOT ONLY WATCHTOWER has the truth. In fact, the best caption here will be 'Watchtower simply copied the TRUTH OF TRINITARIAN'

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 10:44am On Aug 22
Ken4Christ:


How does that affect your walk with him. That you have this knowledge doesn't save you. Salvation is in the name of Jesus;

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Do you call your earthly father by his name or you call him daddy or father or papa? Jesus called him father. Well, you can't because you are not his child yet. If you are, the spirit of God in you will cry Abba Father.
So How many name does Psalms 83:18 says that God has?
what name did Jesus call in John 17:26?

Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 11:09am On Aug 22
@ Emusan do you have that screenshot shared by Janosky about Trinitarians believing Jesus is Angel Michael, not created and eternal.

I cannot lay my hands on it so far
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 12:00pm On Aug 22
achorladey:
@ Emusan do you have that screenshot shared by Janosky about Trinitarians believing Jesus is Angel Michael, not created and eternal.

I cannot lay my hands on it so far

Actually, I don't have it but I think it's from the same Matthew Poole's or Geneva Bible.

That is why you see them just screenshot the little part that suits them.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Emusan(m): 12:04pm On Aug 22
Michael547:

So How many name does Psalms 83:18 says that God has?
what name did Jesus call in John 17:26?

According to New World Translation.

If you see from any where Jesus used the name Jehovah bring it!

I am waiting!

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 2:02pm On Aug 22
Emusan:


Actually, I don't have it but I think it's from the same Matthew Poole's or Geneva Bible.

That is why you see them just screenshot the little part that suits them.

Thanks, I don see am.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 2:05pm On Aug 22
Emusan:


First of all, this line of your delusion isn't new to me.

Secondly, Watchtower is a product of Seventh Day Adventist which means they actually copied that doctrine from them.

Lastly, this reinforced my point that NOT ONLY WATCHTOWER has the truth. In fact, the best caption here will be 'Watchtower simply copied the TRUTH OF TRINITARIAN'

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😂🤣😂🤣

'
Watchtower simply copied the TRUTH OF TRINITARIAN

Their so called empire of false religion and by extension those they call christendom in derogatory manner grin grin grin


He cannot deny it.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Ken4Christ: 1:13am On Aug 26
MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted says it all, you must believe in the two before you can be saved!

You can't believe in Jesus without believing in God the Father because he qualifies to become a son of God.

But Jehovah Witness believe in God but don't believe in Jesus. So, you can't be a Christian.

If you believe in Jesus, you will believe he is God in human flesh. He is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. He said; "...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" (John 14:9)

He was never created. Rather, all things were created through him. He existed before the world began. See the statements he made in this regard;

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

The NET puts it this way;

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD WAS CREATED.

This is why he also said;

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

He taught clearly about the reality of hell which your wicked anti Christ organisation denied.

He said he is coming back but you said he isn't coming back. In fact, you said he has already come back.

What more can I say. Your founder is an agent of darkness who opposes virtually every truth of God's word. He is definitely in hell suffering for his wickedness and you will join him if you don't repent. Keep defending his lies until the devil takes your soul away.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Iamanoited: 1:49am On Aug 26
JESUS IS LORD AND SAVIOUR.
CHRIST IS "OF LIGHT: A GOOD ICON AND GOD'S LIFE".
CHRIST IS "THE FAITH: THE HOPE: PEACE OF GOD: GOD IN LOVE".
JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS AND HE IS THE PROPITIATION FOR OUR SINS.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10am On Aug 26
Ken4Christ:

But Jehovah Witness believe in God but don't believe in Jesus.

Is this about what i believe or what you think Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe?

For your information the word BELIEVE means TRUST so if you say someone doesn't believe in something it shouldn't just be an assertion your opinion should be fully backed with proof.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES carefully practice everything Jesus commanded his disciples to do so in what sense can you say JWs don't believe in Jesus?
You are scared to mention the name of your church because you don't want others to find out what you practice in your church yet you want to be addressed as a Christian is that not real cultism? undecided

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Ken4Christ: 8:34am On Aug 26
MaxInDHouse:


Is this about what i believe or what you think Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe?

For your information the word BELIEVE means TRUST so if you say someone doesn't believe in something it shouldn't just be an assertion your opinion should be fully backed with proof.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES carefully practice everything Jesus commanded his disciples to do so in what sense can you say JWs don't believe in Jesus?
You are scared to mention the name of your church because you don't want others to find out what you practice in your church yet you want to be addressed as a Christian is that not real cultism? undecided

You are a son of perdition. You will continue to defend Russell and Rutherford until you join both of them in hell. And you are doing this in spite of overwhelming evidence exposing your their lies.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:47am On Aug 26
Ken4Christ:

You are a son of perdition. You will continue to defend Russell and Rutherford until you join both of them in hell. And you are doing this in spite of overwhelming evidence exposing your their lies.

Back to default mode again!

I have told you thousand times that you should try to reason with others but since you love mentioning names you can continue with your attitude at least i've told you what i believe and you can't prove me wrong! smiley

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:25am On Aug 26
Ken4Christ:


You are a son of perdition. You will continue to defend Russell and Rutherford until you join both of them in hell. And you are doing this in spite of overwhelming evidence exposing your their lies.

Did Russell and Rutherford write John 17:3 & John 14:1 in your own Bible?

Illiterate pastor.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:25am On Aug 26
MaxInDHouse:


Back to default mode again!

I have told you thousand times that you should try to reason with others but since you love mentioning names you can continue with your attitude at least i've told you what i believe and you can't prove me wrong! smiley

Ken4 GIBBERISH, very illiterate pastor.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:32am On Aug 26
Emusan:


Actually, I don't have it but I think it's from the same Matthew Poole's or Geneva Bible.

That is why you see them just screenshot the little part that suits them.
Achorladey:


@ Emusan do you have that screenshot shared by Janosky about Trinitarians believing Jesus is Angel Michael, not created and eternal.


I cannot lay my hands on it so far
.

Emusan LYING miscreant exposed by Achorladey MUMU.

Achorladey dey chook you bad bad.

ALL angels were created.
Archangel Michael (Jesus) was created, born, begotten.

Una two MUMU,LYING miscreant.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by achorladey: 9:37am On Aug 26
Janosky:



Emusan LYING miscreant exposed by Achorladey MUMU.

Achorladey dey chook you bad bad.
LYING miscreant.
grin grin grin



See werey peddling brains back again. Since you will never have order in your life peddling never stop....

Emusan LYING miscreant exposed by Achorladey MUMU.

What is being exposed here against Emusan?

Achorladey dey chook you bad bad. LYING miscreant.

That your werey peddling brains will exposed for it lies. What did I expose about Emusan? grin cheesy grin grin

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:44am On Aug 26
Ken4Christ:


You can't believe in Jesus without believing in God the Father because he qualifies to become a son of God.

But Jehovah Witness believe in God but don't believe in Jesus. So, you can't be a Christian.

If you believe in Jesus, you will believe he is God in human flesh. He is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. He said; "...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" (John 14:9)

He was never created. Rather, all things were created through him. He existed before the world began. See the statements he made in this regard;

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

The NET puts it this way;

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory I had with you BEFORE THE WORLD WAS CREATED.

This is why he also said;

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

He taught clearly about the reality of hell which your wicked anti Christ organisation denied.

He said he is coming back but you said he isn't coming back. In fact, you said he has already come back.

What more can I say. Your founder is an agent of darkness who opposes virtually every truth of God's word. He is definitely in hell suffering for his wickedness and you will join him if you don't repent. Keep defending his lies until the devil takes your soul away.

LYING miscreant the illiterate pastor deceiving himself is LYING & denying John 17:3 & John 14:1 in public forum.

Illiterate pastor dey deny Jesus instructions and teaching:
"Believe in the God his Father & believe in Jesus the son, to have eternal life.
Illiterate pastor no believe John 17:3 & John 14:1.


Jesus is the first born of God, Hebrew 1:6.
Man is the last born of God, Job 38:4-7.

Oga repent ooOO !!!
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 9:59am On Aug 26
Emusan:


According to New World Translation.

If you see from any where Jesus used the name Jehovah bring it!

I am waiting!


Mark 12:29
Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: 'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One."


Matthew 4:10.

Jesus Christ used the name Jehovah everytime that Jesus read the holy scrolls or quoted from it wherever his Father's name Jehovah was written.

Your Father send you go assignment, you reach your destination, you no go tell your listeners the name of your Father wey send you go that assignment?

Emusan dunce. You so so empty upstairs.
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:03am On Aug 26
Ken4Christ:


How does that affect your walk with him. That you have this knowledge doesn't save you. Salvation is in the name of Jesus;

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Do you call your earthly father by his name or you call him daddy or father or papa? Jesus called him father. Well, you can't because you are not his child yet. If you are, the spirit of God in you will cry Abba Father.

Illiterate pastor, what did Jesus Christ teach you at John 17:3 & John 14:1?


Your Father send you go assignment, you reach your destination, you no go tell your listeners the name of your Father wey send you go that assignment?

John 5:43 & John 17:6,26, Jesus Christ no dey do like you, illiterate pastor deceiving himself.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20am On Aug 26
Janosky:

Did Russell and Rutherford write John 17:3 & John 14:1 in your own Bible?
Illiterate pastor.

Whenever his erroneous teachings are exposed he starts mentioning Russell and Rutherford as if they owe him money! smiley
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:24am On Aug 26
Emusan:


First of all, this line of your delusion isn't new to me.
Emusan "line of delusion" was known to his
fellow Trinitarians, Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon, John Gill,Seventh Day Adventists etc.
This Bible truth had been known long before Emusan & his ancestors were even born.
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How come that ghost leading them is leading Emusan and Emusan no get that knowledge?
Serious issues
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Emusan:


Secondly, Watchtower is a product of Seventh Day Adventist which means they actually copied that doctrine from them.

No Sir.
Jehovah's servants copied that doctrine from the holy scriptures.


Emusan:

Lastly, this reinforced my point that NOT ONLY WATCHTOWER has the truth. In fact, the best caption here will be 'Watchtower simply copied the TRUTH OF TRINITARIAN'


Did your fellow Trinitarians invent the Bible?

No !

That truth was copied from the holy Bible that Jesus archangel Michael.

Emusan dunce.

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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:26am On Aug 26
MaxInDHouse:


Whenever his erroneous teachings are exposed he starts mentioning Russell and Rutherford as if they owe him money! smiley
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Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Janosky: 10:35am On Aug 26
Ken4Christ:


My friend, the emphasis is on the name of Jesus. If you believe in Jehovah but don't believe in Jesus, you cannot be saved. Jesus was sent by God his Father and you must believe in Jesus to be saved;

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Illiterate pastor deceiving himself in public forum.
cheesy grin grin

John 7:16 " the doctrine I (Jesus) teach is NOT mine".

John 17:3 " believe the only true God his Father & believe in Jesus His Son,to have eternal life "

John 14:1 Jesus said:"believe in the God my Father & believe in me"

Illiterate pastor says NO!


Oga illiterate pastor,repent ooOO!!!!
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:39am On Aug 26
Janosky:

Illiterate pastor deceiving himself in public forum.
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John 7:16 " the doctrine I (Jesus) teach is NOT mine".
John 17:3 " believe the only true God his Father & believe in Jesus His Son,to have eternal life "
John 14:1 Jesus said:"believe in the God my Father & believe in me"
Illiterate pastor says NO!
Oga illiterate pastor,repent ooOO!!!!

Since JWs aren't shouting "Lord Jesus Lord Jesus" he feels they don't BELIEVE in Jesus! undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Ken4Christ: 5:36am On Sep 01
Janosky:

Illiterate pastor deceiving himself in public forum.
cheesy grin grin

John 7:16 " the doctrine I (Jesus) teach is NOT mine".

John 17:3 " believe the only true God his Father & believe in Jesus His Son,to have eternal life "

John 14:1 Jesus said:"believe in the God my Father & believe in me"

Illiterate pastor says NO!


Oga illiterate pastor,repent ooOO!!!!

What is the meaning of the word, gospel? And what should be the central focus of the gospel message?
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Iamanoited: 7:17am On Sep 01
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
SEYI TINUBU IS NOT AHMED TINUBU BUT HE IS TINUBU LIVING IN THE PARAPHERNALIA OF GOVERNMENT.
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by Michael547(m): 9:43am On Sep 01
Iamanoited:
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
SEYI TINUBU IS NOT AHMED TINUBU BUT HE IS TINUBU LIVING IN THE PARAPHERNALIA OF GOVERNMENT.
Between Tinubu and his Son, who is older and greater?

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