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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by jaephoenix(m): 5:11pm On Aug 23
SIRTee15:


Your basis on why U are atheist is very weak.
Come here let's discuss metaphysical and I will show U atheism makes no sense.
lack of intellectual cognitive rationalisation is what breeds atheism.
U just need intelligent discussion and atheism will fly out of your brain, it makes no sense.
U can't be better than philosophers who concluded on law of infinite regress.
First u have to bring evidence about the existence of the metaphysical before we tango
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by kingxsamz(m): 5:36pm On Aug 23
SIRTee15:


Your basis on why U are atheist is very weak.
Come here let's discuss metaphysical and I will show U atheism makes no sense.
lack of intellectual cognitive rationalisation is what breeds atheism.
U just need intelligent discussion and atheism will fly out of your brain, it makes no sense.
U can't be better than philosophers who concluded on law of infinite regress.

No, lack of belief in a god/gods is what makes me an atheist. I don't need to be a scientist or study the works of philosophers to not believe in fairy tales. "God" is a made up concept. There's no sense in believing in a god. I don't need to have "intelligent discussions" with folks who believe in talking snakes, donkeys and all of that magical bs to justify being an atheist. Same way you don't need all of that to not believe in Unicorns and dragons.
I'll rather admit to having no knowledge of the origin of the universe than cope with ancient myths.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by kingxsamz(m): 5:41pm On Aug 23
SIRTee15:


Lots of people already challenged him but of course he cowardly ran away.
One even challenged him on rain maker.

If U not going to stick out your neck for him then don't bring him here
2.5m means nothing to me.
I'm not dealing with him...I'm dealing with U.
Don't waste my time by deferring to things U can't beat your chest on.

Lots of people where?
Have you contacted him? Were you one of those who contacted him and he turned you down?
FYI, it's more than 5 million now. You can't tell me that means nothing.
Also, I'm just another anonymous person on Nairaland, but if you prove him wrong and win his prize, you'd be proving a lot of people wrong. It'll go viral and the case will be sealed once and for all. You don't need to focus on convincing me.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 6:56pm On Aug 23
Judas1X:

Bwahahahaaa grin! Mehn, you're stupid as fucck! grin grin grin grin

[b]The whole point of being a lawyer is to advocate for one side only! Also just listen to how stupid and inconsistent you sound....

See, you are purely mad and moronically stupid. I just pointed out that it is because the opponent already has a lawyer on his side but like stones and mad people, the info is incapable of entering your foolish mad heads.

For you not to understand this simple statement just proves you are ncapable of understanding anything.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 7:06pm On Aug 23
Everyday247:

This is kinda true in a sense. There are intelligent theists and there are dumb theists. Also there are intelligent atheists and there are dumb atheists. Most of the time it's usually intelligent atheists arguing against dumb theists, thats why these debates always appear to lean in favour of atheists.
Many theists are not properly prepared for debates. And just tend to dive in recklessly hence making them easy pickings. FXmasterz has the right idea to prepare before hand. One should always prepare before coming for a debate.

Accurate and True.

Everyday247:

BTW, you know I'm one of them, right? grin

Not really. You just registered this year so, i never met you before.

And interesting a fair atheist, i wonder if the zombies are gomna bite you and you would change some posts thereafter.

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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:10pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:
The Existence of a Creator: A Challenge to Atheists
I had an argument with Jaephoenix a few days ago. He was completely floored and ran away from the discussion. I observed that unlike what used to be the norm, none of his fellow atheists came to his rescue. I have presented the argument in a more organized way and hereby table it as an open challenge to all atheists worldwide.

Now, let's begin:
Atheism posits that complex designs and functionality in the natural world can be explained without the need for a Creator. However, I argue that certain features of the natural world demonstrate intelligent design, purposefulness, and complexity, necessitating the existence of a Creator.

Key Points:
1. Intelligent Design: Complex structures like the eye exhibit intelligent design, with multiple components working together to achieve a specific purpose (sight).
2. Purposefulness: The eye's design serves a clear purpose, unlike natural processes that may create complex but purposeless structures.
3. Complexity: The eye's complexity and functionality cannot be explained by random natural processes alone.
4. Universality: The eye is a common feature across many living organisms, suggesting a deliberate design rather than a random occurrence.
5. Variety: The existence of different types of eyes (e.g., human, insect, octopus) implies a Creator who adapted designs for specific purposes.
6. Creator vs. Intelligent: The argument focuses on the existence of a Creator, not necessarily an intelligent or supernatural one.
7. Natural Processes: While natural processes can create complex structures, they lack purposefulness and intentionality, unlike the eye's design.
8. Emergence: Complex systems can exhibit emergent properties, but these do not necessarily explain the eye's purposeful design.
9. Evolutionary Explanations: Incremental adaptive changes may contribute to the eye's development, but they do not fully account for its complexity and purposefulness.
Conclusion:
The existence of complex, purposeful designs like the eye necessitates the existence of a Creator. This challenges atheistic views that rely solely on natural processes to explain the natural world. While the nature and identity of this Creator are open to discussion, the evidence from intelligent design, purposefulness, and complexity demands consideration of a Creator's role in shaping the world around us.

here is the reality of life:
if you take away science today from everybody's mind and throw away all the science books etc, then in 100years, there will be the exact same science/books back in people's life because science is eternal (you cant fake it)... but if you take away ALL religion and religious books from this world, then in 100years there will be a new bunch of holy scammers with brand new gods and strategy and brand new scam to try to enslave people. FACT!!!!

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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 7:20pm On Aug 23
Judas1X:


Jesu! Stray bullet don knack StillDFool, sorry, StillDTruth cheesy cheesy.

StillDtruth you're the only Christian I know that sleeps on Nairaland religion section crying about atheists and fighting with them. It can only be you they are talking about here embarassed.

See display of madness! Nothing was shot at me but.who shall tell the mad devil?grin

And of course satan's demon is complaining that i spoil his feeding.here hence the cry covered in deranged and maniacal laughter and madness grin

Anyway, what else shall a mad demon do than to display madness? grin
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 7:42pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:

And with this yardstick you just created, can you be said those be a lawyer?

Is this a yardstick? Clear proof you are mad and incapable of understanding anything.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:00pm On Aug 23
MrBrownJay1:


here is the reality of life:
if you take away science today from everybody's mind and throw away all the science books etc, then in 100years, there will be the exact same science/books back in people's life because science is eternal (you cant fake it)... but if you take away religion and religious books from this world, then in 100years there will be a new bunch of holy scammers with new gods and strategy and brand new scam to try to enslave people. FACT!!!!
That's not fact. It's fallacy.

Please face the topic and don't detail the thread.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:03pm On Aug 23
Judas1X:


Preparing? Dude, he ran away cheesy grin!

Are you still here? I didn't run away. I've been busy but I'm now back online to read all my mentions.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:05pm On Aug 23
Judas1X:


Jessicarabbit, pls don't debate this subhuman battling with AI. It is obvious that he is mentally compromised. Might as well debate with a basket.

At least AI is more intelligent than you. While the AI put forth a solid rebuttal before taking a bow, you couldn't even put forth a single rebuttal. You're a mere noise maker
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 8:05pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:

Lol. Its obvious you don't even know your onions as a lawyer. Which arguments have you laid forth, apart from casting unconfirmed claims here

See proof of madness. You think people are mad and blind because you are? grin
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 8:17pm On Aug 23
kingxsamz:

You didn't wish me death today. Or did you forget? 😂

Your madness and painfull suffering is already taking you there slowly.like an escalator.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:19pm On Aug 23
Judas1X:


Dude stop being a wuss.
You don't need a lawyer. This is a debate, not the law court. Have you never watched a real debate in your miserable life? Who are the parties involved. Can you name them?
Who is this pestilent fellow that's full of cursing and all vulgarity? Is this how filthy atheists can be?
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:22pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:

Then point us to those intelligent theists. This dress on Nairaland are just misfits
Meanwhile, you don't measure up to anything when intelligent atheists are being considered.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by Everyday247: 8:24pm On Aug 23
StillDtruth:


Accurate and True.



Not really. You just registered this year so, i never met you before.

And interesting a fair atheist, i wonder if the zombies are gomna bite you and you would change some posts thereafter.
lol, we've met before Na. Check well. grin
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by jaephoenix(m): 8:25pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:

That's not fact. It's fallacy.

Please face the topic and don't detail the thread.
Whats the name of the fallacy? Or did you learn what fallacy is today?
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by jaephoenix(m): 8:27pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:


At least AI is more intelligent than you. While the AI put forth a solid rebuttal before taking a bow, you couldn't even put forth a single rebuttal. You're a mere noise maker
AIs don't tackle on sensitive topics, you dolt! That's how they are programmed. Once it gives its own views, it politely backs out
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by jaephoenix(m): 8:27pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:

Meanwhile, you don't measure up to anything when intelligent atheists are being considered.
Okay grin
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by StillDtruth: 8:43pm On Aug 23
Everyday247:
lol, we've met before Na. Check well. grin

Ah! If you speak like this, i won't think you.an atheist oo.

I know i spoke to you.maybe 1 or 2 weeks back but ithought you would be an occasional commenter.

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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by MrBrownJay1(m): 8:44pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:
That's not fact. It's fallacy.

you are right... religion IS indeed fallacy with not a single iota of proof, while science is the opposite.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:45pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:

Whats the name of the fallacy? Or did you learn what fallacy is today?

Go and find a dictionary. I'm not using a legal term. I'm simply speaking English. If you want to give it a name, go find a lawyer.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by kingxsamz(m): 8:55pm On Aug 23
StillDtruth:


Your madness and painfull suffering is already taking you there slowly.like an escalator.

A mad man in his own world. Chai.
I feel bad for you sha.
It's sad that mad people do not understand that they're mad. Please try and seek help, it's already getting too late. 🙏🏿
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 8:59pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:

Please bring screenshot I beg you grin

You were perambulating all through the discussion. You couldn't even take any meaningful position. You always replied me addressing what I didn't say and leaving the real matters unattended to. I constantly reminded you of what we were discussing during the argument. Lastly, you were inferring what I didn't say, and I responded to you in the first screenshot below to show me where I said what you inferred. You couldn't even address the issue.

After I asked you to show me where I said what you said, you absconded. You didn't reply again since you had nothing to say. 5 days after that you quoted me with an empty quote. I have screenshot that quote so that your lying and deceitful self would not go back to add flesh to that empty quote and bring it here as evidence of a response. You're an unrepentant liar. You first lied that we had no such debate, then when you were exposed, you lied again that you weren't defeated. Now, show me the post you made in response to the last question I asked you bellow? That was the same way you were lying on that same thread that you didn't call me a retard until I exposed you. What else can an atheist do than to lie and walk deceitfully. You of all atheists here are the most shameless.

Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 9:01pm On Aug 23
MrBrownJay1:


you are right... religion IS indeed fallacy with not a single iota of proof, while science is the opposite.

How did you prove science? By going to where the proofs are. Isn't it?
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 9:05pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:



My friend, we're here to discuss the bolded above. Put the long talks aside. Now face the topic since you have now admitted you do not believe in the existence of a Creator. I can't tell you who the Creator is until you first believe there's a Creator

The above is your quote.
You're a very dishonest man. You used this antics on me. Kept denying something you said



You're very unintelligent my guy. I'm ashamed of you.

So, you don't know the difference between believing in a Creator and believing there's a Creator?

Show me where I said you should believe in a Creator!

You're a very unintelligent and dishonest atheist!
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 9:08pm On Aug 23
Judas1X:


Hello cool.

I should probably correct you and let you know that I'm not entirely a biased guy. The fact that I enjoy coming down hard on Christians doesn't mean I'm not capable of deciphering strong logical arguments from the weak ones. I've read everything you wrote here and I agree what the angle you're pushing,... but Fxmasterz sounds like a pussy azz nigga to me. Look how quickly he folded when you tried to make the debate as official as possible grin cheesy grin. These low rent apologists don't recognize what a real debate is. Nairaland don make them feel say na by trolling and insults. That's why I refuse to debate them normally myself. I still make my reasoned arguments, but I also make sure I insult them mercilessly for hours unending until they fold like wet tissues.

But this one that StillDTruth StillDFool is running upandan like a headless chicken trying to stop people from replying to you, e be like say you really did a number on him. Kudos cheesy cheesy.

You're just running your mouth wild on this thread without any meaningful contribution other than to abuse people and call them names. What sort of human being are you? Do you have any moral training at all?

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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 9:10pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:

Jesus the son of Andromeda!
Is that how you challenged and won an AI?
lol 😆
Please show us a screenshot of the debate.
That is how you ranted that you floored me

I have provided proof of your flooring. Go and and disprove me.
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by FxMasterz: 9:13pm On Aug 23
jaephoenix:
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So who created this very complex and powerful entity that created all those?

Have you now agreed that all these things were Created?
Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by Judas1X: 9:29pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:


You're just running your mouth wild on this thread without any meaningful contribution other than to abuse people and call them names. What sort of human being are you? Do you have any moral training at all?

Bro you're a soft pussy azz nigga! What? Did I say anything wrong? Aren't you and your boyfriend StillDFool making up baseless excuses to run away from a debate? I said you are a pussy. Are you getting emotional cheesy?

Don't worry about me abusing people. This is how've I chosen to engage you Christians in this forum since una no wan get sense. You guys who frequent these sections within the last five years or so are just a bunch of trolls and liars, and it annoys me when I see atheists try to be reasonable with you guys. I prefer to speak to you guys in the language you will understand.

If you want to debate with me, then let's go. I'll take all you bitches down, no matter how many of you there are. Your collective brain cells can't match up to my smallest fingernail. And if you really know your illegitimate boyfriend StillDFool, you'll know that he's one of the most prominent trolls in this section, always dishing out insults and curses, but then he'll scamper like a lil bitch when someone like me decides to really give it to him grin grin.

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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by Judas1X: 9:40pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:

Who is this pestilent fellow that's full of cursing and all vulgarity? Is this how filthy atheists can be?

I'm the sand in the garri of duplicitous monkeys like you and StillDFool cool.

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Re: This Completely Destroys Atheism and Renders Atheists Speechless by MrBrownJay1(m): 9:46pm On Aug 23
FxMasterz:
How did you prove science? By going to where the proofs are. Isn't it?

religion is based on mambo jambo "he say she say" baseless assumptions made by some men without a single proof.... science is FACTS that can easily be proven for the next 100 generations after us. what you religious people say is as clueless as me saying that your invisible god in the sky is actually Harry Potter OR Daenerys Targaryen the mother of dragon, and you cant prove me wrong?

jesus, NOT A SINGLE PROOF!
heaven, NOT A SINGLE PROOF!
Angels, NOT A SINGLE PROOF!
god, NOT A SINGLE PROOF!

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