Michael547:

So when I say that MightySparrow is Jealous, am I calling you the personal name of your God?

How do we also explain the name we find in Psalms 83:18 in the screenshot below?

No matter how much you twist the obvious, it doesn't change anything.
The verse qouted is the writer's opinion, his own favourite name.

I say also, ' that the whole world may know that your name alone is Jealous.'

This is a revealed name of God that I like to call my own God.

As said earlier, if you have problem with it, go and hug transformer.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus commanded his disciples to be zealous in the work he assigned to them so that's what i'm always doing with any opportunity i have but when there is no agreement he commanded his disciples to PEACEFULLY take their leave because he knew it's not easy to convince a person to drop his beliefs. Matthew 10:16

So if you and i can't reach an agreeable point it's better to keep what each person believes and go our separate ways calling someone names simply because of difference in beliefs is UNCHRISTIAN!

And you are advising me who is doing the same work of my Master and Lord to take rest!

What do you high on?

achorladey:
We are not even talking about dead monikers of his paapaa with as much post as the one he is using currently

Adding those ones will even make the matter complicated.

Someone who makes an average of 2 posts per hour for his time on Nairaland is advising me that my average post per day are just two to take a rest

Emusan:

Doing the same work of my Master and Lord!

Let's honor this statement if it's true. Matthew 10:16

MaxInDHouse:

Let's honor this statement if it's true. Matthew 10:16

Who and who is 'US'?

Are you now worshipper of Our God?

Well, not only Matt 10:16 we will honor but every Word of God for they are SPIRIT AND LIFE.

Emusan:


Adding those ones will even make the matter complicated.

Someone who makes an average of 2 posts per hour for his time on Nairaland is advising me that my average post per day are just two to take a rest

😂🤣😂🤣😂

Emusan:

Who and who is 'US'?
Are you now worshipper of Our God?
Well, not only Matt 10:16 we will honor but every Word of God for they are SPIRIT AND LIFE.

OK!

MaxInDHouse:



OK!

Good!

Wonderful thread!

MightySparrow:


No matter how much you twist the obvious, it doesn't change anything.
The verse qouted is the writer's opinion, his own favourite name.

I say also, ' that the whole world may know that your name alone is Jealous.'

This is a revealed name of God that I like to call my own God.

As said earlier, if you have problem with it, go and hug transformer.

Ok..... if you were to quote psalm 83:18 the way you just did up there, would that not mean that you are twisting and contradicting the writer of that psalm?

Are you saying that the writer of psalm 83:18 lied when he said that the name 'alone' of your God is Jehovah?

MaxInDHouse:


The group name "CHRISTIANS" came because God's people took up an assignment that His only begotten Son Jesus who is called Christ gave them so whoever becomes part of this group and work with them is a Christian but that group name is not to include ancient servants of God who never knew Jesus neither work with him.

From Abel till the day of John the baptist all the servants of God had a hidden group name that wasn't used it's recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 43:10 which reads:

“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none.

The above quotation wasn't meant for the Israelites as a nation because God was talking to people who are loyal to Him and only Him as their God in view of this apostle Paul in his letter to the Hebrew speaking congregation defined faith:

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

The demonstrations of some in ancient times is evidence of their faith in God that He is real to them and Paul began mentioning names like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Sarah, Joseph, Moses, Rahab, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, as well as Samuel. All these people never saw Jesus nor did the work Jesus assigned to his disciples therefore they are not Christians.
So what did Paul has to say about them?
In the Bible book of Hebrews 12:1 we read:

So, then, because we have such a great cloud of WITNESSES surrounding us, let us also throw off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us

Paul referred to all servants of God in ancient times as WITNESSES and Jehovah called all His loyal worshipers the same group name {Isaiah 43:10} there has been many group names used for His worshipers in the past starting with:
• ISRAELITES.
• JEWS.
• THE WAY.
• CHRISTIANS.

None among those group names survived the attack of Satan's agents as he continues to initiate his own agents right in their midst each time God assemble them to serve as example to the world around them.
In fact Jesus himself foretold of the future of CHRISTIANITY when he told them a parable of a sower who planted fine seeds in his farmland but his enemies came and oversowed the land with weeds {Matthew 13:24-30} in that illustration Jesus concluded that during the harvest he will send out his angels to gather only the fine seeds and keep them in his store but as for the weeds they will also be gathered in their bundles for burning.

So when did this separation work began?
In the Bible book of Revelations 18:4 we read:

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues"

This means sincere, faithful and loyal individuals will humbly disassociate themselves from false religions in the last days before the destruction of the world empire of false religion and they will continue preaching zealously and industriously teaching in their neighborhood because Jesus is the voice that called them they will not abandon the assignment he gave his disciples rather they will be reenergized due to the call by an endtime group called the faithful and discreet slave {Matthew 24:45} this small group will continue to direct them in doing the work without let up because they must do it until the conclusion of this system of things {Matthew 28:20} when the end of all badness will come! Matthew 24:14

While all these is going on Satan will not give up he will try to initiate his agents right in the midst of God's servants in the endtime but because Jesus has began ruling in heaven since the year 1914 Satan and his agents won't have any power to stop God's people rather their actions globally will render them silent in a spiritual sense {Isaiah 54:17} that's why they will become frustrated claiming they are JW PIMO who are Physically In (God's organization but) Mentally Out (of God's organization)

These are the agents of Satan that God is talking about in the Bible book Isaiah 65:13-15
You will notice that they prefer the name CHRISTIANS so much that they keep fighting against God's organization but instead of them to take their leave they remain.
Their group started their work again right after the death of Charles Taze Russell as they continued to fight against this organization, some of them went out to form their own group claiming Christians but aren't doing the work assigned but the rest of them refused to leave they are the ones maligning God's organization due to the bitterness of their father {John 8:44} so when Jehovah decided to call His own worshipers by another group name Satan's agents became totally confused because that organization is invincible.

So we are the real disciples of Christ (CHRISTIANS actively doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples) but due to all the atrocities committed by the AntiChrist {1John 2:18} Jehovah began calling us by the long hidden group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Bros abi neighbour, I have shown you from the scripture that the new name is CHRISTIAN. I can't take anything coming from your head. You should know me na. I can't take such things from my penticostal people how much more from JW.

Stop writing essay for me. Just give one or two scriptures that clearly says that "Jehovah's witness" is the new name.

Boomark:

Bros abi neighbour, I have shown you from the scripture that the new name is CHRISTIAN. I can't take anything coming from your head. You should know me na. I can't take such things from my penticostal people how much more from JW. Stop writing essay for me. Just give one or two scriptures that clearly says that "Jehovah's witness" is the new name.

Neighbor, i'm not asking you to believe or take what i discovered in my own personal research i responded because you were told that i said something that's why i explained in details how i figured it out on my own (note) ON MY OWN not what Jehovah's Witnesses believe collectively.

So if i never asked my fellow believers to take it why you?
Please each Bible scholar is free to make his or her own personal research regarding what he believes such treasures aren't meant to be shared until someone ask why the believer is so strongly attached to his religious group.

Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:


Neighbor, i'm not asking you to believe or take what i discovered in my own personal research i responded because you were told that i said something that's why i explained in details how i figured it out on my own (note) ON MY OWN not what Jehovah's Witnesses believe collectively.

So if i never asked my fellow believers to take it why you?
Please each Bible scholar is free to make his or her own personal research regarding what he believes such treasures aren't meant to be shared until someone ask why the believer is so strongly attached to his religious group.

Thanks!

See this lying liar.

So, you agree now that Jws don't have ONE LINE OF THOUGHT anymore.

But when are you sending your PERSONAL RESEARCH to your headquarter about your NEW DISCOVERY or do you think others Jws are not worthy to know the truth about this PEESONAL RESEARCH?

Emusan:

See this lying liar.
So, you agree now that Jws don't have ONE LINE OF THOUGHT anymore.
But when are you sending your PERSONAL RESEARCH to your headquarter about your NEW DISCOVERY or do you think others Jws are not worthy to know the truth about this PEESONAL RESEARCH?

My personal research is spiritual as no single JW will pray or worship with you if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

WHY?

Well many just believe that it's due to the way we do pray which negates how other religions do pray but the secret is in the new group name:

We must pray with only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14; John 17:8-9

Aemmyjah:




The name Christian was given by Divine Providence. So Jehovah had a hand or intervention in making this unique group have a name and that will not seem to promote any divisive sect favoring Jewish disciples against Gentile disciples (like the nation of Israel) but they are united. It could not have been from faithless humans or in mockery of the disciples that they adopt the name cos it seem to come from divine proclamation or providence as you read. It is just that a quick glance at the verse make it look like it was the unbelievers or the Jews that gave them the name but no, it was by Divine Providence, some translation uses the word, divine appointment or proclamation
Jesus Christ is the head of the Christian congregation which he symbolically calls his wife. Just as a wife bears her husband name, the name Christian has a deeper meaning. Another word was The Way. The unbelievers used Sect to describe them.
For instance, I could say it was in Columbus, Ohio in 1931 that the Bible students began to be called Jehovah's Witnesses by Divine Providence. Without careful investigation, one may think it was the neighbors that gave us that name maybe cos we were using God's name unlike others but with available information, we know it was adopted then and announced by Rutherford. Were some of the neighbors beginning to use Jehovah to describe us before then? Personally , I don't know but it is possible someone may have used, 'Jehovah people is here'. The name Jehovah was rarely used then but we were already using it and making it known long before 1931 until the name was officially adopted but DIVINE PROVIDENCE so using Jehovah name before then was kind of new or strange to the people cos that was not what they were taught in Churches but formerly it was International Bible Student Association but we did not see any need of a distinguishing name. We are also known as Kingdom Proclaimers or Kingdom publishers cos we tell about the kingdom . It is only unbelievers that give us name like wickedness, cultists, poor , brainwashed, sect and pedophiles. Similarly, in the first century, since preaching about exercising faith in Jesus Christ as the way of salvation to both Jews and Greeks was completely new but that was what they were known for since the day of Pentecost, someone could say, 'These Jesus Christ people are here', 'The preachers of Christ are here', I am not saying it happened but it's possible but the name CHRISTIAN did not crept his way into the congregation as a mockery or mere description of some people telling about Jesus. It was given by DIVINE PROVIDENCE. Possibly at a meeting then with the brothers, a prominent member could have announced it and they joyfully carried it

Sadly but true to what Jesus and Paul foretold, the entire group fell into apostasy much later and the name Christian does not even show or prove one knows Jesus or even put faith in him. It was used in wars to spread the gospel (political false gospel) and today, politicians, lesbians, criminals,etc openly acknowledge they are Christians. Even an atheist where he wants to fill a form and he's asked to choose between Muslim, Christian will likely choose Christian even though he may hate the group but he had a Christian background. The name Christian is now like a tradition, it is even politicized and used as a State religion. The name Christian is still valid as it describes ones personal relationship with Jesus Christ but it is also a misnomer. A Muslim that says he wants to be a Christian can simply enter any religious building claiming faith in Jesus whereas they do nonsense and we have several thousands of Christendom denomination that contradict themselves in beliefs and practices and what they Bible teaches. We , Jehovah's Witnesses don't want to identify with Christendom so the name Jehovah's Witnesses is very fitting and by Divine Providence. This is the time of Restoration. The name does not describe who we are but what we do. We also exercise faith in Jesus Christ and we're Christian but not as a religious-political group and that's why we don't associate with other groups.
Good morning Boomark
Honestly, you're amazing too. For a week, I was banned and could simply read messages. I enjoy much of your comments honestly. You're like a honeybadger, it can face a pride of lion and it won't give up. Personally, I'm trying hard to limit my comments here cos I feel sometimes, it leads to arrogance in knowledge, insults which are really unchristian and I feel I am using pride and using myself as a tool to those who hate us to paint a bad image on Jehovah's Witnesses and I feel bad really. I'll rather be insulted than allow our good name to be tarnished and the best way to do so as I've seen is not even responding to some comments or posts or mentions even when triggered to or to defend the organization so the good people know about us should not be seen as a show
The guy that is asking for certificate of evangelism or whatever reported me to a brother of mine here who was kind of reproving in his comments that I called him stupid. True and that's really regrettable but he asked me a question who was stupid between me and him. Was he expecting me to say it was me? I should have ignored but I said it was him and he insulted my father. He did not mention that one. He did not mention that he call others demonic. An ex-certified evangelist indeed

Thanks my friend.

Some questions can put people in trouble.

But you know that other people can still claim that the name of their church is more fitting and a divine providence. No one has monopoly of claim. But all claims that are unscriptural are false. Christian name is the one we have seen so far in the scripture that came through divine providence. There is no other.

achorladey:



No proof anywhere na man made concoction swallowed by MaxInDHouse

He has admitted that it was his personal research. So we have agreed to reject his research for lacking in evidence.

Michael547:

Would it be proper if I say that my name is Jealous, or I say that someone is Jealous?

Would that mean that I am bearing the name of the Almighty God or giving someone else that name?

I would like to come into this matter. Still looking for where it all started.

Boomark:

We have agreed to reject his research.

I don't even expect members of Watchtower to accept it talkless you because i'm not the faithful and discreet slave feeding Jesus' sheep.

But one thing is certain:

Call yourself by the group name CHRISTIAN no member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization will welcome a prayer from you neither will they accept to worship with you elsewhere except inside the Kingdom Hall of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

That's food for thought!

Michael547:

Ok..... if you were to quote psalm 83:18 the way you just did up there, would that not mean that you are twisting and contradicting the writer of that psalm?

Are you saying that the writer of psalm 83:18 lied when he said that the name 'alone' of your God is Jehovah?

Are truthful for denying the name 'jealous'?

Boomark:


Thanks my friend.

Some questions can put people in trouble.

But you know that other people can still claim that the name of their church is more fitting and a divine providence. No one has monopoly of claim. But all claims that are unscriptural are false. Christian name is the one we have seen so far in the scripture that came through divine providence. There is no other.

Christian has now become like a traditional self identity
Many don't know what real Christian mean

Boomark:




He has admitted that it was his personal research. So we have agreed to reject his research for lacking in evidence.

The court of Boomark of God shall arise then

Emusan:


And you are advising me who is doing the same work of my Master and Lord to take rest!

What do you high on?

Imperfect spiritual food of 9 GODS of men housed in USA.

Michael547:

Ok..... if you were to quote psalm 83:18 the way you just did up there, would that not mean that you are twisting and contradicting the writer of that psalm?

Are you saying that the writer of psalm 83:18 lied when he said that the name 'alone' of your God is Jehovah?

You were not busy twisting your head when you asked him to accept your Psalms 83:18.

Boomark:


Bros abi neighbour, I have shown you from the scripture that the new name is CHRISTIAN. I can't take anything coming from your head. You should know me na. I can't take such things from my penticostal people how much more from JW.

Stop writing essay for me. Just give one or two scriptures that clearly says that "Jehovah's witness" is the new name.

Your neighbor will not listen, respect is not reciprocal in his diary. You are not fit to instruct him

MaxInDHouse:


Neighbor, i'm not asking you to believe or take what i discovered in my own personal research i responded because you were told that i said something that's why i explained in details how i figured it out on my own (note) ON MY OWN not what Jehovah's Witnesses believe collectively.

So if i never asked my fellow believers to take it why you?
Please each Bible scholar is free to make his or her own personal research regarding what he believes such treasures aren't meant to be shared until someone ask why the believer is so strongly attached to his religious group.

Thanks!

Liar and manipulator. Does who bear the name CHRISTIAN don't belong to Jesus Christ. The name cursed by Jehovah and bastardised

Emusan:


See this lying liar.

So, you agree now that Jws don't have ONE LINE OF THOUGHT anymore.

But when are you sending your PERSONAL RESEARCH to your headquarter about your NEW DISCOVERY or do you think others Jws are not worthy to know the truth about this PEESONAL RESEARCH?

He knows that lies and manipulations of his we have debunked numerous times. That thing lie fly.

MightySparrow:


Are truthful for denying the name 'jealous'?

I never denied any name.
I have asked you countless times if 'Jealous' is the unique name for your God and you've said yes.

Why have you not accepted that 'Jehovah' is the name 'alone' attributed to your God according to Psalms 83:18 in the screenshot below.

Below also in the screenshot is what your God told Moses by himself in Exodus 6:3. Can you explain this verse in connection with Psalms 83:18?

Boomark:


Thanks my friend.

Some questions can put people in trouble.

But you know that other people can still claim that the name of their church is more fitting and a divine providence. No one has monopoly of claim. But all claims that are unscriptural are false. Christian name is the one we have seen so far in the scripture that came through divine providence. There is no other.

The person you responded to draw strong influence from the lies and manipulations of MaxInDHouse

Aemmyjah:


Christian has now become like a traditional self identity
Many don't know what real Christian mean

What does real Christian mean?

We cannot just wake up one day and decide to reject what God has made to happen. You are opposing God's will with your human thoughts.

MaxInDHouse:


I don't even expect members of Watchtower to accept it talkless you because i'm not the faithful and discreet slave feeding Jesus' sheep.

But one thing is certain:

Call yourself by the group name CHRISTIAN no member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization will welcome a prayer from you neither will they accept to worship with you elsewhere except inside the Kingdom Hall of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

That's food for thought!

That self righteousness

Call yourself by the group name CHRISTIAN no member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization will welcome a prayer from you neither will they accept to worship with you elsewhere except inside the Kingdom Hall of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

MaxInDHouse holds the mouth of other Christian denominations to ransom regarding praying. The last time they checked the hearer of prayer is not MaxInDHouse

Aemmyjah:


Christian has now become like a traditional self identity
Many don't know what real Christian mean

Define real Christian

Don't just tell us the Jehovah's witnesses are real Christian

Boomark:


What does real Christian mean?

We cannot just wake up one day and decide to reject what God has made to happen. You are opposing God's will with your human thoughts.

He is coming back to explain real Christian based on the lies and manipulations packed into his brains by his GODS of men housed in USA.