People talk about oyo empire, Benin empire ,Sokoto emirate and mock the Igbo for not having emperors.
The simple truth is that the quality of life and freedom the ancient igbos enjoined likewise minority tribes, without emperors was superior to states with emperors.

The masses of the oyo,Benin,Fulani etc were more or less SLAVES serving their emperors,while the igbos largely lived a more free and independent life.

There were less wars in ancient Igbo land because they didn't have kings,kings were the major proponents and propagators of wars,enabling them to live a more decent ,organised and peaceful live.

Though the Aro system ruined things for the Igbo,if not they wouldn't have fallen victim to slavery.

The Yoruba suffered from successive constant wars because of the very oyo empire they hold dear.

The hausa-fulani were basically slaves in all their history due to their kings and later Fulani emirs.

Kingless societies were better societies,ask the anioma who resisted slavery and resisted the British the longest in Nigeria.

Unnecessary comparison.

What is the essence of writing about Igbo ancient democracy when there are no more kings in other parts of Nigeria?

The message would have been delivered without mentioning others.

Na that unnecessary comparison dey make some people to dey over react

Drop a link to any book that has a historical documentation of their "Ancient Democracy"

Make references too

No just bamboozle us with random passages from an article of your personal opinion

CyrusVI:
Drop a link to any book that has a historical documentation of their "Ancient Democracy"

Make references too

No just bamboozle us with random passages from an article of your personal opinion

It is well-known in all sources that igbos had no Kings but practiced democracy through clan chiefs and age groups societies. Didn't you learn this in your University?🤡

babasolution:
People talk about oyo empire, Benin empire ,Sokoto emirate and mock the Igbo for not having emperors.
The simple truth is that the quality of life and freedom the ancient igbos enjoined likewise minority tribes, without emperors was superior to states with emperors.

The masses of the oyo,Benin,Fulani etc were more or less SLAVES serving their emperors,while the igbos largely lived a more free and independent life.

There were less wars in ancient Igbo land because they didn't have kings,kings were the major proponents and propagators of wars,enabling them to live a more decent ,organised and peaceful live.

Though the Aro system ruined things for the Igbo,if not they wouldn't have fallen victim to slavery.

The Yoruba suffered from successive constant wars because of the very oyo empire they hold dear.

The hausa-fulani were basically slaves in all their history due to their kings and later Fulani emirs.

Kingless societies were better societies,ask the anioma who resisted slavery and resisted the British the longest in Nigeria.

the so Igbos that were so disorganized n disoriented that the white came n gave them warrant chiefs?

The same Igbos that lack unity that small tribes capture them n take them as slaves?

Go n read Reno omokri expose about it n u will b ashamed of yourself

victory36:
It is well-known in all sources that igbos had no Kings but practiced democracy through clan chiefs and age groups societies. Didn't you learn this in your University?🤡

what we learnt was that they were so disorganized n disoriented and whites gave them warrant chiefs

They were regarded as "barba****s" in one history book cause they never allow one to speak but say different things d same time

Don't forget same thing is still happening today

Some want Biafra
Some want obi
Some want restructuring n co


If in doubt read Reno omokri expose about them

70 PERCENT OF IGBO LAND GOT VIA CONQUEST OF OTHER TRIBE

Factcheck0001:
the so Igbos that were so disorganized n disoriented that the white came n gave them warrant chiefs?

The same Igbos that lack unity that small tribes capture them n take them as slaves?

Go n read Reno omokri expose about it n u will b ashamed of yourself

ariesbull:
70 PERCENT OF IGBO LAND GOT VIA CONQUEST OF OTHER TRIBE

I don't get

Please make yourself clear

Factcheck0001:
what we learnt was that they were so disorganized n disoriented and whites gave them warrant chiefs

They were regarded as "barba****s" in one history book cause they never allow one to speak but say different things d same time

Don't forget same thing is still happening today

Some want Biafra
Some want obi
Some want restructuring n co


If in doubt read Reno omokri expose about them

this shows that they had democracy and freedom of thought unlike some other tribesmen who literally aligned with the British to conquer their own tribe

Emperor Obi of Ajaokuta.

victory36:
this shows that they had democracy and freedom of thought unlike some other tribesmen who literally aligned with the British to conquer their own tribe

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I love this......

Highly intellectual reasoning.

Factcheck0001:
what we learnt was that they were so disorganized n disoriented and whites gave them warrant chiefs

They were regarded as "barba****s" in one history book cause they never allow one to speak but say different things d same time

Don't forget same thing is still happening today

Some want Biafra
Some want obi
Some want restructuring n co


If in doubt read Reno omokri expose about them

What about those people whose kingdom and lands were snatched from them. Their tradition changed and Oba killed, and they will given an Emir till today?

Do they also practice democracy as well?

Smartcitizen:





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I love this......

Highly intellectual reasoning.

people described as barbarians lack organisation if u don't know

Smartcitizen:




What about those people whose kingdom and lands were snatched from them. Their tradition changed and Oba killed, and they will given an Emir till today?

Do they also practice democracy as well?

please who are those people?

Let me get u clear before I reply u

Factcheck0001:
please who are those people?

Let me get u clear before I reply u

Fact check naa!

Is that not your name again?


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Is like saying monkeys and goats have best democracy / are replublican because the are disorganized and have no leaders

Smartcitizen:




Fact check naa!

Is that not your name again?


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let me take u down memory lane

U Igbos always try to throw a subtle bash at yorubas with Ilorin right, to every Ilorin lost by yorubas at least 4 settlement are lost by Igbos with tears till date

Go to Kwara n u will see Yoruba settlement n yorubas living comfortable without any animosity, my brother can that b said about Igbos in south south

U lost all the south south state n not only that u have been severely dealt with in south south with utter disregard

Hope u remember how wike dealt with Igbos in rivers n jailed their women for 3 months without bathing?

Hope u remember how asari called u slaves in a land they wrestled from u?

Do u remember how Reno omokri gave your story?

Hope u remember how they changed all Igbos street names n even declare they don't have anything doing with Igbos?

Have u forgotten d case of abandoned properties?

Let me just stop here, note for one thing u Igbos want to mock yorubas for there are 4 things they can mock u with

I don fact check u

Factcheck0001:
the so Igbos that were so disorganized n disoriented that the white came n gave them warrant chiefs?

The same Igbos that lack unity that small tribes capture them n take them as slaves?

Go n read Reno omokri expose about it n u will b ashamed of yourself

How organised were the other tribes,eg the Yoruba who fought 16 years civil war,destroying their own peoples?

Prior to that they collapsed their own so called empire oyo and became refugees in Ibadan and Abeokuta.

The Yorubas were also massively sold as slaves despite their emperors

BLACK

Factcheck0001:
let me take u down memory lane

U Igbos always try to throw a subtle bash at yorubas with Ilorin right, to every Ilorin lost by yorubas at least 4 settlement are lost by Igbos with tears till date

Go to Kwara n u will see Yoruba settlement n yorubas living comfortable without any animosity, my brother can that b said about Igbos in south south

U lost all the south south state n not only that u have been severely dealt with in south south with utter disregard

Hope u remember how wike dealt with Igbos in rivers n jailed their women for 3 months without bathing?

Hope u remember how asari called u slaves in a land they wrestled from u?

Do u remember how Reno omokri gave your story?

Hope u remember how they changed all Igbos street names n even declare they don't have anything doing with Igbos?

Have u forgotten d case of abandoned properties?

Let me just stop here, note for one thing u Igbos want to mock yorubas for there are 4 things they can mock u with

I don fact check u

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I just tried to see if you are real Yoruba man by checking your hypocrisy level with that first message and you confirmed very very well.

Did I mention Kwara? But you formed ignorant and later come out bold after displaying your hypocrisy.

For corrections,

The places you claimed we lost are still answering our names, speaks our language and are ruled by Igbos.

Your wicked Nigerian policies wants to separate them with your divide and rule system that has never ever made their life better.

If they are better, what was the reason for the Niger Delta struggle, killings and Amnesty programs?

Una go fail from now till ever more....


AMEN.

Smartcitizen:





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I just tried to see if you are real Yoruba man by checking your hypocrisy level with that first message and you confirmed very very well.

Did I mention Kwara? But you formed ignorant and later come out bold after displaying your hypocrisy.

For corrections,

The places you claimed we lost are still answering our names, speaks our language and are ruled by Igbos.

Your wicked Nigerian policies wants to separate them with your divide and rule system that has never ever made their life better.

If they are better, what was the reason for the Niger Delta struggle, killings and Amnesty programs?

Una go fail from now till ever more....


AMEN.

which name are they answering?

Please y are they not sitting at home in south south?

Ancient Democracy where Twins were considered abominations

Ancient Democracy where certain people were labelled Osus.

Ancient Democracy where women were pursued from her husband's house if she didn't have a son.

Ancient Democracy where sick people were labelled cursed.

Well it's a know fact that igbos are the best

danvon:
Ancient Democracy where Twins were considered abominations

Ancient Democracy where certain people were labelled Osus.

Ancient Democracy where women were pursued from her husband's house if she didn't have a son.

Ancient Democracy where sick people were labelled cursed.

It was the times,things like this were done all over the world, even the whites considered as who some considered as having developed systems were burning women on stakes accused of witchcraft

Factcheck0001:
which name are they answering?

Please y are they not sitting at home in south south?

See this one o!

You think all the south east are sitting at home?

Let me shock you and you can FACT CHECK it as you always claim to do.....

Check if Umuahia Abia state capital observes SIT AT HOME...... That's Nnamdi Kanu's place after all.

You will never understand us and that's why we can never be in same ship with you people.


It's just a matter of time my dear......

babasolution:


It was the times,things like this were done all over the world, even the whites considered as who some considered as having developed systems were burning women on stakes accused of witchcraft

Twins were not considered abominations in Yoruba land and Human sacrifice was abolished centuries in most Western cultures and even among Fulanis. Mind you they didn't have the superior democracy.

If you committed the same crimes everyone without 'Ancient Democracy' are commiting then why would you claim to be better than them

babasolution:
People talk about oyo empire, Benin empire ,Sokoto emirate and mock the Igbo for not having emperors.
The simple truth is that the quality of life and freedom the ancient igbos enjoined likewise minority tribes, without emperors was superior to states with emperors.

The masses of the oyo,Benin,Fulani etc were more or less SLAVES serving their emperors,while the igbos largely lived a more free and independent life.

There were less wars in ancient Igbo land because they didn't have kings,kings were the major proponents and propagators of wars,enabling them to live a more decent ,organised and peaceful live.

Though the Aro system ruined things for the Igbo,if not they wouldn't have fallen victim to slavery.

The Yoruba suffered from successive constant wars because of the very oyo empire they hold dear.

The hausa-fulani were basically slaves in all their history due to their kings and later Fulani emirs.

Kingless societies were better societies,ask the anioma who resisted slavery and resisted the British the longest in Nigeria.

How come Igbos made up the highest number of slaves from West Africa?
And you claim citizens of empires or kingdoms were slaves by being in their own kingdoms?

babasolution:


I mentioned the Aro system, which later crept up and failed them,but the Yorubas equally had high numbers sold to SLAVERY, likewise the Hausas.

The monarchial emperor system was no BETTER

The Aro system was established in the 17th century, while slave trade was very much ongoing during the 15th century.

The Aro system seemed to organise various Igbo groups in order to establish coordinated governance, and like other traditional systems may have prescribed slavery as a form of punishment in their justice system. But it's doubtful it was the major factor which contributed to the high figures.

It's more likely, prior to the Aro system, there were multiple smaller groups who may have taken advantage of one another, depending on influence or strength, and may have sold members of 'weaker' groups as slaves for economic gain.
This definitely doesn't sound like a democratic setting!

danvon:


Twins were not considered abominations in Yoruba land and Human sacrifice was abolished centuries in most Western cultures and even among Fulanis. Mind you they didn't have the superior democracy.

If you committed the same crimes everyone without 'Ancient Democracy' are commiting then why would you claim to be better than them

It was simply a better ideology because it allowed people to live more freely,this is based on the fact that igbos are mocked for not having supposed "statehood" with emperors.

Human sacrifice was not stopped in yorubaland or Benin till the 19th century.

If you know the real act's of the emperors you'll hate them.

Research on the life and times of say the oyo rulers you'll understand my point of view BETTER.

Most of them ruled with gross impunity, though there were checks,but it didn't stop their gross impunity

NaMe4:


How come Igbos made up the highest number of slaves from West Africa?
And you claim citizens of empires or kingdoms were slaves?

I mentioned the Aro system, which later crept up and failed them,but the Yorubas equally had high numbers sold to SLAVERY, likewise the Hausas.

The monarchial emperor system was no BETTER

So who fought the

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aro-Ibibio_Wars

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%E2%80%93Igala_wars

Without strength in numbers many igbos towns/ villages minus aros were easy pickings for slavery .

Ibadan was a military town, non monarch. They still waged wars on the ekiti and others.

ednut1:
So who fought the

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aro-Ibibio_Wars

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%E2%80%93Igala_wars

Without strength in numbers the igbos minus aros were easy pickings for slavery

No one wasn't easy pickings for SLAVERY, the Hausa's even far from the coast were sold by their own LORDS to slavery first to Arabs and later to the coast,Yorubas also fell to SLAVERY by their own hands with constant instability and wars in their polity.only BENIN were somewhat shielded from slavery ,only due to their monarchs disposition to SLAVERY otherwise they too would have been victims,so in all emperor system was no BETTER

ednut1:
So who fought the

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aro-Ibibio_Wars

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%E2%80%93Igala_wars

Without strength in numbers many igbos towns/ villages minus aros were easy pickings for slavery .

Ibadan was a military town, non monarch. They still waged wars on the ekiti and others.

Ibadan was formed in the 19th century from victims of wars( refugees)