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Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by SEGLIZ: 12:39pm On Sep 01
StillDtruth:


Ta!

Thieves on the pulpit.

Even you, wish to be like them.

It is definitely not God Who sent them for God knows the power of One.

So if indeed they were God sent, the whole world would come to them which is of course convenient and restfull rather than they fly gloriously all over the world, living abundantly whereas, their suppises sheep are hungry, sick, homeless and jobless.

Neither Christ nor the disciples did this but of course thieves carrying bibles would not like to see their plans condemned.








even you will become a thief on the pulpit if the opportunity presents itself.

go check them most of those things are gift from people like you that value their existence or has benefited of Jesus Christ through them.

you critics of pastors always claim they steal the tithes that is meant for the Church. NO, to be emphatic. the tithes is meant for them and no one else, according to God instructions.

I will like make known that there are those that are not called by God but just saw religion (being system without a strong regulatory) as a way of making quick money.

still genuine men of God deserves good things of life like you and I.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by pseudaria: 12:40pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


That I just used those as examples does not mean those are the only places to go. They've been to cannibal creeks even in the hinterlands of East and Central Africa. Please go and educate yourself.

Lies upon lies. Ordinary villages for ogun state their leg never reach na for east Africa they wan see them. Your GO should leave Chicago conference where he is sure of min 50000$ to a backwater swamp where he will even spend his own money. 🙌🙄🤨
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by miketayo(m): 12:41pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


Just as there is no justification for you having clothes even if they were gifted to you.

The jets are instruments of work. Not luxury.

Visionless people are the only ones who see the jets as luxuries instead of instruments.

It's not luxury, yet you have none. I know people like you, you drop logical reasoning and follow what your fellow man tells you. I m sure you won't even listen to Jesus if he tells you these men aren't his apostles.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 12:44pm On Sep 01
miketayo:


It's not luxury, yet you have none. I know people like you, you drop logical reasoning and follow what your fellow man tells you. I m sure you won't even listen to Jesus if he tells you these men aren't his apostles.

I don't need it. I'm not yet busy enough to need a jet.

Let Jesus say it first. You're not Jesus, so please rest.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by Youareforgiven(m): 12:44pm On Sep 01
ItuExchange:
Speaking on the issue of pastors owing private jets; Olu Johnson said that it was of necessity for some pastors to own such, as it was not to showoff but rather to propagate the gospel of the kingdom.

“Sincerely, I do not blame pastors that have private jet in our time and season. Pastor Adeboye is busier than the president of Nigeria – the president of Nigeria oversees only this nation, I don’t know if we can know how many nations Pastor Adeboye is overseeing from Redemption Camp.

“The man is overseeing 197 nations: I have missed some of our very important meetings where I am the host for flight schedules; if I had the means, maybe I would have hired a flight and wouldn’t have missed those programmes. Some institutions and individuals in this nation have their private jets; if the work of a pastor has become enormous like the work of Pastor Adeboye or Oyedepo, I sincerely subscribe that if they can afford it or the church can afford it; it is necessary.” – Rev. Olu Johnson

I have no problem with there private jet or no private jet. My concern is what they are preaching to the weary souls. Sadly, majority of them is found wanting.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by victorDanladi: 12:44pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


A lot of people talk very ignorantly, and sin without knowing it.

The works these General Overseers do are quite enormous. They have appointments, speaking engagements, meetings and other occasional urgencies in several nations each week. Sometimes, two appointments in two different nations in one day. They fly to Germany in the morning for a meeting and by evening are in the United Kingdom for a preaching engagement while also needing to rush back home same night to prepare for an important service on the morrow.

They're not getting jets for luxury but to enable them accomplish more, enjoy easier navigations around the world and prolong their lives in spite of their heavy schedules.
Are they more busy than the president of the country that you vilify for having a jet for his office?
If you yab the president with the excuse that there is hunger in the land...are their no members of the church that needs to travel out too but couldn't because of funds or that are hungry?

Ndi touch not my anointed,but they can touch the p3si
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by emapeteum(m): 12:45pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


They're doing all they can in their own power to justify their heavenly rewards. Go and do yours and stop complaining.
You are not in a position to say that pls.The scripture is not meant for private interpretation. Damina is actually right
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 12:49pm On Sep 01
pseudaria:


Lies upon lies. Ordinary villages for ogun state their leg never reach na for east Africa they wan see them. Your GO should leave Chicago conference where he is sure of min 50000$ to a backwater swamp where he will even spend his own money. 🙌🙄🤨

Go and read their documentaries. I can vividly remember Oyedepo's visit to Koma Hills. He was the first ever clothed man to visit that place in its history. Google it and educate yourself. Go and see what Koma hill is today.

You guys talk a lot of nonsense through ignorance and envy. You commit sin against innocent people who lives efforts and details you do not know. The judgement of God would come upon you guys at the right time.

A man is doing what God sent him to do and puts his life at risk as a result. You sit in your comfort zones to condemn him because he was gifted some jets. Wait first, let God arise and do judgement.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by okeke6969: 12:50pm On Sep 01
Travelling to preach gospel to people who brought the gospel to us🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 12:51pm On Sep 01
emapeteum:

You are not in a position to say that pls.The scripture is not meant for private interpretation. Damina is actually right

Follower of Damina.

I have not done any scripture interpretation in my response to you.

Go and sit down and ask for forgiveness if you have nothing to say.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by Onyedikachi231: 12:51pm On Sep 01
ItuExchange:
Speaking on the issue of pastors owing private jets; Olu Johnson said that it was of necessity for some pastors to own such, as it was not to showoff but rather to propagate the gospel of the kingdom.

“Sincerely, I do not blame pastors that have private jet in our time and season. Pastor Adeboye is busier than the president of Nigeria – the president of Nigeria oversees only this nation, I don’t know if we can know how many nations Pastor Adeboye is overseeing from Redemption Camp.

“The man is overseeing 197 nations: I have missed some of our very important meetings where I am the host for flight schedules; if I had the means, maybe I would have hired a flight and wouldn’t have missed those programmes. Some institutions and individuals in this nation have their private jets; if the work of a pastor has become enormous like the work of Pastor Adeboye or Oyedepo, I sincerely subscribe that if they can afford it or the church can afford it; it is necessary.” – Rev. Olu Johnson

Thieves...
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by BadBradley: 12:57pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


He's not as busy as these men of God. Does the Prime minister of UK have multiple appointments in different nations of the works every week as these people?
which multiple appointments in different countries your god get?
Deceiver.

Go and see as the UK Prime minister and US president get old and grey with work and your gods with multi appointments across the globe are not showing any signs of fatigue or labour.

Criminals like you live and survive by fleecing people with broken minds and feeble spirits

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Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by chatinent: 1:00pm On Sep 01
Many have brains, but others are equipped with d9gshit.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by miketayo(m): 1:02pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


I don't need it. I'm not yet busy enough to need a jet.

Let Jesus say it first. You're not Jesus, so please rest.

What happen to delegation and virtual meetings.
Well it's the same way people like you blindly defend corrupt leaders, it's not new
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by MightySparrow: 1:05pm On Sep 01
hardbody:


So they don't understand delegation in management. They must be live in a location for God to hear them because he stopped being ubiquitous. Business leaders in all those other locations should be able to manage their business units (church branches) while the GO concentrates in the HQ. Most of the people tithing for the private jet and it's maintenance trekk to and from walk. May my brain not be messed up by a fellow man.

That is exactly what I am talking about. Cynics will never see anything good in another ministry. As far as I know for Oyedepo a d Adeboye. Rich members of their congregations voluntarily contributed when they saw the need.
You don't seem to have brain to be messed up. In these ministries are movers and shakers in this world. There are some of their members all over the world that you cannot dust their shoes.

Anyway, the lives is always some kind.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by Onyedikachi231: 1:06pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


Lol. But that's not the way it should be. We're still limited in knowledge and therefore cannot decide right and wrong for everyone. Do not judge or call people devils. Tomorrow, when more knowledge comes to you, you'll call them saints. Just as you can see better today regarding your actions yesterday. You'll still see better tomorrow regarding your actions of today.

Many years ago, I used to think that buying jets for men of God is evil as you are thinking today. But after my own personal experience with ministry, I saw why it was necessary for them. Without it, they wouldn't be able to accomplish much. Jesus said, "Go ye into the world and preach the gospel." He didn't tell us to wait for the people to come to us.

It seems you believe that these people are fake. Well, maybe I'm also fake to you as well. But you see, people who are into religion always see others as fake, and are always angry when others don't do what they thought they should have done. But people who have met Jesus don't reason like that. God loves sinners and wants them to come into Righteousness. God does not hate sinners. He only hates the sins they commit. Infact, God loves sinners. That's why Jesus had to die for everyone. He didn't die for the righteous. He died for sinners.

We are commanded to pity sinners. Not to be angry with them or call them mad.

Jude 1:23

"...and for others, save, snatching them out of the fire; and on others have mercy with fear, hating even the tunic polluted by the flesh."

Save them, hate only the garment of sin they wear but have mercy on those wearing those garments and save them from the fire.

And let me also add that these men of God do a lot of charity work which they don't announce. Charity worth several millions of dollars yearly from their personal pockets.

Oyedepo doesn't earn any salary as a person. Most of what he has are gifts including the jets.

What can you say of this behavior and is this pastor truly from God or just a scamming imbecïle.

During 2011 or so, Jonathan's administration removed subsidy, this pastor called for a 1 million march against the government for causing hardship for Nigeria citizens through subsdy removal, he actually did it.

Fast forward to now that we have another dumb career criminal in also rock, Not only did he remove subsidy, all his policies has been antipeople and criminal in nature, do you know what that pastor did?

He instead of organising another one million match or speak against the government about the roughness of life in Nigeria, remember, this time around things are 1 million times worse than the Jonathan's period, he is saying his people should go and pray, does it mean during Jonathan's time that there was no need for prayers or that if we had prayed then, this calamity wouldn't have befallen us.

So tell me, what kind of pastor is that that is slippery, a betrayal to his own gullible followers? Is he from God too?

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Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by Aprocco: 1:07pm On Sep 01
StillDtruth:


So if indeed they were God sent, the whole world would come to them which is of course convenient and restfull rather than they fly gloriously all over the world, living abundantly whereas, their suppises sheep are hungry, sick, homeless and jobless.

Neither Christ nor the disciples did this but of course thieves carrying bibles would not like to see their plans condemned.


May you see the light of truth and salvation.
Same Jesus you quote commanded us to go to the uttermost part of the earth to preach the gospel.

Bible recorded many instances of Jesus, Disciples, Paul traveling on ships to minister beyond their borders.

These GOs you criticize have obeyed a commandment after God's heart and have so doing drawn your condemnation and consequent prize from God their sender. Just imagine what you have drawn for yourself.

May God show you mercy.







Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by emapeteum(m): 1:09pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


Follower of Damina.

I have not done any scripture interpretation in my response to you.

Go and sit down and ask for forgiveness if you have nothing to say.
I don't follow Damina nor any of the pastors. I look into the scripture and try to follow that which was laid.i don't agree with Damina in everything but he speaks the truth sometimes
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by TAYO124: 1:10pm On Sep 01
corrected.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by TAYO124: 1:13pm On Sep 01
ItuExchange:
Speaking on the issue of pastors owing private jets; Olu Johnson said that it was of necessity for some pastors to own such, as it was not to showoff but rather to propagate the gospel of the kingdom.

“Sincerely, I do not blame pastors that have private jet in our time and season. Pastor Adeboye is busier than the president of Nigeria – the president of Nigeria oversees only this nation, I don’t know if we can know how many nations Pastor Adeboye is overseeing from Redemption Camp.

“The man is overseeing 197 nations: I have missed some of our very important meetings where I am the host for flight schedules; if I had the means, maybe I would have hired a flight and wouldn’t have missed those programmes. Some institutions and individuals in this nation have their private jets; if the work of a pastor has become enormous like the work of Pastor Adeboye or Oyedepo, I sincerely subscribe that if they can afford it or the church can afford it; it is necessary.” – Rev. Olu Johnson

In a yeye country like Nigeria where we import almost everything the purchase of an aircraft is not wise rather it is far cheaper to hire one as need arises.
You have to be a multimillionaire in dollars or other foreign currency to own aircraft in Nigeria today.

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Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by bamayo(m): 1:14pm On Sep 01
They have not justified the reason for possessing private jets at all. What's the impact of thier numerous churches on the society? Nothing. Have churches reduced crime in Nigeria? The answer is no. When the impart of church has not yet be felt in Nigeria so, why taking the gospel to 197 countries. The reason why people are criticizing them is not because of thier gospel has no impact. Atleast the gospel should reduce crime in Nigeria. Instead of buying private jets, why can't they use the money to build industries?
Industries will have much impart on our society than big cathedrals. Many people are Into crime because there's no job. I don't think building gigantic churches, buying jets which will take the church alot of fortune to maintain is the best options. They are just behaving like Nigeria politicians, who are not productive. Provide industries, most of our challenges will be solved immediately
But the churches will never do that. More industries means less people in the church and less money and church will gradually fade
The reasons why so many people are in the church is because they are less busy. Busy people don't have time for church. Busy people don't have time for some prayer points like because most of the prayer points are not necessary

StillDtruth:


It is babies who are limited in knowledge and cannot decide right and wrong.

Adults eg Adam, Cain, Pharoah, Moses, the isrealites and Amelekites, Buhari, Tinubu and even you knew right and wrong even though you would say thay all have limited knowledge.

So this holds no water.



As i said The real preaching is by being a true example of Christ likeness which means, whether you preach or not your family neighbours and community are the ones who call you a Christian because they will never find you doing or participating in any evil thing.

And not by going up and down making noises

Christ has already being preached and over preached but among the preachers and all can we say that they are good examples of Christ? No! They are as the people they preach to.

And that is just the meaning of sin and wrongdoing and lip service. The very people Christ condemned in Mathew 15:8



The bible said it, all must work. We all know gifts are not given unless he made bloated promises or he is a witch like simon.the sourcerer.

As great as Moses and the prophets were.did people give them gifts? No.

Or inspite of all The Lord, Jesus did and gave who gave Him many a plenty gifts?

These men are babalawos and todays Simon the sourcerer. They are not of God!


The bible already shows us what real men of God are like and what always happens to them.

Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by Talismann: 1:18pm On Sep 01
take time to notice those who would disagree with the OP on the immense importance of a jet to these men, they are poverty striken and think with a poverty striken brain and poverty infused mentality.

When I began touching money, I realized that everyone even needs their own jet if they can afford it.


Being dead broke is worse than death itself, it is the only root of evil.

I will be never be poor.

It's a waste of time explaining to people who see the wealthy as the reason they are in deep poverty.

Taaaa
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by kpompey: 1:18pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


Adeboye does not own Redeem. He's an employee of the church too. A salary earned. How does the policy of the Church have anything to do with him if all the members of the church are not opposed to it. What's your now concern?

They have visited places more dangerous than Bornu where cannibals are the major threats. They have established branches in Bornu too and even in dangerous fanatical Islamic nations.
No, Adeboye is in lagos and abroad, unknown brainwashed pastors who are missionaries are in Borno.Elijah never send someone to Baal, he faced Baal himself
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 1:26pm On Sep 01
kpompey:

No, Adeboye is in lagos and abroad, unknown brainwashed pastors who are missionaries are in Borno.Elijah never send someone to Baal, he faced Baal himself

Lol. You don't know Adeboye. So, go and sit down. Lol.

Let me give you a gist. Adeboye still carries blocks and joun builders whenever there is building work in the church. Even you will never do that as a person. Yet you have the mouth to criticize someone whose private activities you're absolutely oblivious of.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 1:28pm On Sep 01
emapeteum:

I don't follow Damina nor any of the pastors. I look into the scripture and try to follow that which was laid.i don't agree with Damina in everything but he speaks the truth sometimes

Then before you criticize, search out for the truth and hold on to it. I don't follow any of the pastors I'm defending too. I am defending them based on my knowledge of their private activities.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by kpompey: 1:29pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


Yes, they can make their first Sons or any other son as their successors if they believe they're the only ones who'll remain true to the founding vision after their departure. Except God says otherwise, it's not a sin!

For the fact that the father is a pastor, the son is automatically a pastor. Did you know the number of bishop that pull out from winners when Oyedepo named his son as his successor. Even Abioye that they started together was ignored. Keep fooling around.99 percent of churches in Nigeria are business ventures.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by GorillaApp(m): 1:29pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


A lot of people talk very ignorantly, and sin without knowing it.

The works these General Overseers do are quite enormous. They have appointments, speaking engagements, meetings and other occasional urgencies in several nations each week. Sometimes, two appointments in two different nations in one day. They fly to Germany in the morning for a meeting and by evening are in the United Kingdom for a preaching engagement while also needing to rush back home same night to prepare for an important service on the morrow.

They're not getting jets for luxury but to enable them accomplish more, enjoy easier navigations around the world and prolong their lives in spite of their heavy schedules.

Rubbish.

Have you heard the word, 'to delegate before?
they can't be everywhere and do everything. jesus did not cover the whole world. he delegated you and i to do so.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 1:30pm On Sep 01
Onyedikachi231:


What can you say of this behavior and is this pastor truly from God or just a scamming imbecïle.

During 2011 or so, Jonathan's administration removed subsidy, this pastor called for a 1 million march against the government for causing hardship for Nigeria citizens through subsdy removal, he actually did it.

Fast forward to now that we have another dumb career criminal in also rock, Not only did he remove subsidy, all his policies has been antipeople and criminal in nature, do you know what that pastor did?

He instead of organising another one million match or speak against the government about the roughness of life in Nigeria, remember, this time around things are 1 million times worse than the Jonathan's period, he is saying his people should go and pray, does it mean during Jonathan's time that there was no need for prayers or that if we had prayed then, this calamity wouldn't have befallen us.

So tell me, what kind of pastor is that that is slippery, a betrayal to his own gullible followers? Is he from God too?

Adeboye is now approaching 90. He's not as young as he was in 2011. He has spoken heavily against this government from his pulpit. What else do you want him to do at his age?
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by kpompey: 1:30pm On Sep 01
FxMasterz:


Lol. You don't know Adeboye. So, go and sit down. Lol.

Let me give you a gist. Adeboye still carries blocks and joun builders whenever there is building work in the church. Even you will never do that as a person. Yet you have the mouth to criticize someone whose private activities you're absolutely oblivious of.
You know Adeboye, please show us the propaganda evidence.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 1:32pm On Sep 01
miketayo:


What happen to delegation and virtual meetings.
Well it's the same way people like you blindly defend corrupt leaders, it's not new

Virtual meetings to lay hands on people and pray for them? Are you the one who would be telling an organization how to conduct its meetings? Please listen to yourself. It appears you're just being envious.
Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by FxMasterz: 1:34pm On Sep 01
BadBradley:
which multiple appointments in different countries your god get?
Deceiver.

Go and see as the UK Prime minister and US president get old and grey with work and your gods with multi appointments across the globe are not showing any signs of fatigue or labour.

Criminals like you live and survive by fleecing people with broken minds and feeble spirits

Go and ask for the itinerary of any of these parties first. They have the at least 3 years booked ahead for them while they're still struggling to fulfil appointments for the current year. The UK president doesn't even know yet where he'll be in December!

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