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"Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 11:00am On Aug 24
I remember those days they keep forcing us to memorize those John 3:3 and John 3:7:

New International Version
“Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” John 3:3

New International Version
‘You must be born again.’ John 3:7

But now our Bible scholars says it has changed to Born from above

New Revised Standard Version
Jesus answered him, “Very truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above.” John 3:3

New Revised Standard Version
Do not be astonished that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ John 3:7

I agree anōthen means from above; by analogy, from the first; by implication, anew.

But we should agree that born anew/again is not equal to born from above!

Born again is old school! Born from above is new school!!! But why did Jesus fail to clear all this? grin

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Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Bmaster(m): 11:16am On Aug 24
Bible's original language wasn't English.


Forget the language,what matters is the message

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Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by 2special(m): 11:31am On Aug 24
The scriptures can't be broken no matter how you try to twist it.
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 2:04pm On Aug 24
Bmaster:
Bible's original language wasn't English.


Forget the language,what matters is the message

What's the Bible's original language?

What's Jesus's original language?
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 2:04pm On Aug 24
2special:
The scriptures can't be broken no matter how you try to twist it.

Simply explain the OP to make sense!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Petalss(m): 2:14pm On Aug 24
AntiChristian:
I remember those days they keep forcing us to memorize those John 3:3 and John 3:7:

Are you an ex-Christian ?
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by 2special(m): 2:18pm On Aug 24
AntiChristian:


Simply explain the OP to make sense!
your aim is to drag Christians into unnecessary argument with you which I won't, believe whatever you want and I believe whatever I want.....
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 2:24pm On Aug 24
Petalss:


Are you an ex-Christian ?

Not really!

Na boarding house we go o!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 2:25pm On Aug 24
2special:
your aim is to drag Christians into unnecessary argument with you which I won't, believe whatever you want and I believe whatever I want.....

Alright. I like your excuse to run away!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Petalss(m): 2:30pm On Aug 24
AntiChristian:


Not really!

Na boarding house we go o!
Okay
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 2:33pm On Aug 24
Petalss:

Okay

And they wanna fishers of men! grin
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Ojuntana: 8:09am On Aug 29
AntiChristian:
I remember those days they keep forcing us to memorize those John 3:3 and John 3:7:

New International Version
“Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” John 3:3

New International Version
‘You must be born again.’ John 3:7

But now our Bible scholars says it has changed to Born from above

New Revised Standard Version
Jesus answered him, “Very truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above.” John 3:3

New Revised Standard Version
Do not be astonished that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ John 3:7

I agree anōthen means from above; by analogy, from the first; by implication, anew.

But we should agree that born anew/again is not equal to born from above!

Born again is old school! Born from above is new school!!! But why did Jesus fail to clear all this? grin
You islamists claim there's only one God and one Qur'an

Yet there are different versions of the Qur'an and all over, they refer to Allah as "We"?

So which is it. Is Allah only one person or a legion of spirits since the Qur'an refers to Allah as "We"?
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Expanse2020(m): 8:51am On Aug 29
Ojuntana:

You islamists claim there's only one God and one Qur'an

Yet there are different versions of the Qur'an and all over, they refer to Allah as "We"?

So which is it. Is Allah only one person or a legion of spirits since the Qur'an refers to Allah as "We"?
So we is what disturbing you I bet you no pass secondary education that why you can be altering this sentence from brain.. go and study English and WE generally to know the meaning
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Expanse2020(m): 8:52am On Aug 29
AntiChristian:
I remember those days they keep forcing us to memorize those John 3:3 and John 3:7:

New International Version
“Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” John 3:3

New International Version
‘You must be born again.’ John 3:7

But now our Bible scholars says it has changed to Born from above

New Revised Standard Version
Jesus answered him, “Very truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above.” John 3:3

New Revised Standard Version
Do not be astonished that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ John 3:7

I agree anōthen means from above; by analogy, from the first; by implication, anew.

But we should agree that born anew/again is not equal to born from above!

Born again is old school! Born from above is new school!!! But why did Jesus fail to clear all this? grin
Na so Dem brain wash us in that useless nursery and primary school na God save us....

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Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by Ojuntana: 9:01am On Aug 29
Expanse2020:

So we is what disturbing you I bet you no pass secondary education that why you can be altering this sentence from brain.. go and study English and WE generally to know the meaning
What kind of buffoonery is this? We is first person plural in English
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 9:58am On Aug 29
Expanse2020:

Na so Dem brain wash us in that useless nursery and primary school na God save us....

Na real brainwash! I suppose swear for them with all those lies!

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Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 9:59am On Aug 29
Ojuntana:

You islamists claim there's only one God and one Qur'an

Yet there are different versions of the Qur'an and all over, they refer to Allah as "We"?

So which is it. Is Allah only one person or a legion of spirits since the Qur'an refers to Allah as "We"?

That's not what is being discussed here!

Ojunta e looto!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by terrezo2002(m): 10:57am On Aug 29
Jesus Christ said " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"
All you need is to believe in Jesus..You don't need to argue with anyone or any book. Just keep believing.
The atheists, Muslims, and every other persons wants to prove the truth wrong. They are able to do that because all they have in them are lies.

Saul on the way to Damascus tried going against the truth. The day of encounter with the Truth, all the lies disappeared.

Saul became Paul. The once enemy of the Truth became a defender of the Truth.

I remembered years ago of someone who said all manner of things of Jesus out of ignorance. Later that week, he came to tell us he met Jesus in revelation. He became a defender of the Truth.

When anyone spill out words of ignorance, you don't need to argue with them because there is no amount of clarification you give that can remove the lies in them. What they need is an encounter by the Spirit of God.
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 9:35am On Sep 03
terrezo2002:
Jesus Christ said " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"
If he truly said such then what is the context?


All you need is to believe in Jesus..You don't need to argue with anyone or any book. Just keep believing.
Show us the people Jesus told to believe in him?

The atheists, Muslims, and every other persons wants to prove the truth wrong. They are able to do that because all they have in them are lies.
Where's the truth? Where are the lies?

Saul on the way to Damascus tried going against the truth. The day of encounter with the Truth, all the lies disappeared.
That scammer Paul/Saul. He told you he met Satan not Jesus! And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14.

Saul became Paul. The once enemy of the Truth became a defender of the Truth.
There was no name change! Saul is the Hebrew name while Paul is the Roman name. Remove those lies from your skull please!

I remembered years ago of someone who said all manner of things of Jesus out of ignorance. Later that week, he came to tell us he met Jesus in revelation. He became a defender of the Truth.
How did he know he met Jesus? Has he met Jesus before? Even your Jesus said many will come in his name falsely! Devils masquerading as Angels of light.

When anyone spill out words of ignorance, you don't need to argue with them because there is no amount of clarification you give that can remove the lies in them. What they need is an encounter by the Spirit of God.

Abeg which spirit? Spirit no dey!
All na lie!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by terrezo2002(m): 10:46am On Sep 03
AntiChristian:
If he truly said such then what is the context?


Show us the people Jesus told to believe in him?

Where's the truth? Where are the lies?

That scammer Paul/Saul. He told you he met Satan not Jesus! And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14.

There was no name change! Saul is the Hebrew name while Paul is the Roman name. Remove those lies from your skull please!

How did he know he met Jesus? Has he met Jesus before? Even your Jesus said many will come in his name falsely! Devils masquerading as Angels of light.



Abeg which spirit? Spirit no dey!
All na lie!
Like I said in my post, no amount of clarification can remove the lies in you. You need an encounter with Jesus.
Bye
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 12:04pm On Sep 03
terrezo2002:

Like I said in my post, no amount of clarification can remove the lies in you. You need an encounter with Jesus.
Bye

I can't encounter Jesus cos i never met him before!

If i see any Satan come to me i go quick rebuke am!

Abeg no dey tell lies again o!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by terrezo2002(m): 1:31pm On Sep 03
AntiChristian:


I can't encounter Jesus cos i never met him before!

If i see any Satan come to me i go quick rebuke am!

Abeg no dey tell lies again o!
Okay.
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by advocatejare(m): 2:10pm On Sep 03
AntiChristian:


I can't encounter Jesus cos i never met him before!

If i see any Satan come to me i go quick rebuke am!

Abeg no dey tell lies again o!
Even Muhammad your master couldn’t resist the jinn that pinned him down thrice in Hira, his wife Khadijah had to help him flash her private part to the jinn to temporarily send it away

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Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 7:54am On Sep 05
advocatejare:

Even Muhammad your master couldn’t resist the jinn that pinned him down thrice in Hira, his wife Khadijah had to help him flash her private part to the jinn to temporarily send it away

See lies!

You're born to lie sha!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by advocatejare(m): 8:02am On Sep 05
AntiChristian:


See lies!

You're born to lie sha!
grin Taqiyya won’t save you here. I have your receipt

Was that not the same way you denied the occurrence of the battle of the camel which was a civil war in Islam that was led by Aisha against Ali?

May God deliver you from the spirit of lies.

Now check below for the evidence that Khadijah flashed her private part to “scare” jinn Jibril away

Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 8:42am On Sep 05
advocatejare:

grin Taqiyya won’t save you here. I have your receipt

Was that not the same way you denied the occurrence of the battle of the camel which was a civil war in Islam that was led by Aisha against Ali?

May God deliver you from the spirit of lies.

Now check below for the evidence that Khadijah flashed her private part to “scare” jinn Jibril away

Ibn Hisham is the Qur'an and Sunnah?

Sorry! I have something meaningful to do with my time.
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by advocatejare(m): 8:47am On Sep 05
AntiChristian:


Ibn Hisham is the Qur'an and Sunnah?

Sorry! I have something meaningful to do with my time.
Ibn Hisham is a Sira. Quran, Hadith and Sira are the three books of Islam
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 9:10am On Sep 05
advocatejare:

Ibn Hisham is a Sira. Quran, Hadith and Sira are the three books of Islam

Is it one of the text of Islam to derive judgement?
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by advocatejare(m): 9:23am On Sep 05
AntiChristian:


Is it one of the text of Islam to derive judgement?
We are not talking about judgement, we are talking about history of Islam and Muhammad, his life before he became a “prophet”, his birth and childhood. The things that tell us who he truly was!
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 10:19am On Sep 05
advocatejare:

We are not talking about judgement, we are talking about history of Islam and Muhammad, his life before he became a “prophet”, his birth and childhood. The things that tell us who he truly was!

So who authenticated it?

Is it Sahih?
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by advocatejare(m): 11:38am On Sep 05
AntiChristian:


So who authenticated it?

Is it Sahih?
Who authenticated all Muhammad’s childhood stories we were told in ile kewu?
Re: "Born Again" Or "Born From Above" Biblical Hullabaloo! by AntiChristian: 10:28am On Sep 06
advocatejare:

Who authenticated all Muhammad’s childhood stories we were told in ile kewu?

No one told you all of them were correct!

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