@ Matthew 11:11-14 we read:

Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he (John the baptist) is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come.

And @ Matthew 17:10-13 we read:

However, the disciples put the question to him: “Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” In reply he said: “E·liʹjah is indeed coming and will restore all things. However, I say to you that E·liʹjah has already come, and they did not recognize him but did whatever they wanted with him. In this way also, the Son of man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples perceived that he spoke to them about John the Baptist

From the two highlighted scriptures we found out that Jesus is implying that John the baptist is the long awaited Elijah. Malachi 4:5

First of all the Jews knew very well that Elijah was not a Jew rather he was a Samaritan and secondly he was taken up to heaven by chariots of fire. So if Elijah should return he could have either been born in Samaria or descended from heaven just as he was taken but instead he was born among the Jews.

So if we want to explain using the scriptures to help a modern day Judaist what evidence does Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples have in the Old Testament to ascertain that John the baptist was truly Elijah?

Jesus' disciples often ask him questions when they are not fully convinced of what he said but when they are convinced they continue to savor they information as they digest it.
What convinced you that Jesus was right when he said John the baptist is Elijah to come?

MaxInDHouse:
@ Matthew 11:11-14 we read:

Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he (John the baptist) is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come.

And @ Matthew 17:10-13 we read:

However, the disciples put the question to him: “Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” In reply he said: “E·liʹjah is indeed coming and will restore all things. However, I say to you that E·liʹjah has already come, and they did not recognize him but did whatever they wanted with him. In this way also, the Son of man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples perceived that he spoke to them about John the Baptist

From the two highlighted scriptures we found out that Jesus is implying that John the baptist is the long awaited Elijah. Malachi 4:5

First of all the Jews knew very well that Elijah was not a Jew rather he was a Samaritan and secondly he was taken up to heaven by chariots of fire. So if Elijah should return he could have either been born in Samaria or descended from heaven just as he was taken but instead he was born among the Jews.

So if we want to explain using the scriptures to help a modern day Judaist what evidence does Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples have in the Old Testament to ascertain that John the baptist was truly Elijah?

✝ Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: "

KJV Bible

Do you now see that Jesus Christ is the Lord in this scripture. He sent Elijah aka John the Baptist before His coming. Malachi 4:5 said that Yahweh will send Elijah.

Youareforgiven:

✝ Malachi 4:5
"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: "
KJV Bible
Do you now see that Jesus Christ is the Lord in this scripture. He sent Elijah aka John the Baptist before His coming. Malachi 4:5 said that Yahweh will send Elijah.

Of course Jesus is Lord but he is not the LORD whom he came to REPRESENT! Psalms 110:1

However you didn't answer the question asked!

MaxInDHouse:


Of course Jesus is Lord but he is not the LORD whom he came to REPRESENT! Psalms 110:1

However you didn't answer the question asked!

This Lord is said to be coming to His temple. He is the owner of the temple. If this Lord is not Yahweh or Jehovah then Jehovah has a rival. But it is Jehovah as you people call him. Jehovah Lord God is One, but yet Three.

Except you will deny that this temple is not the temple that Solomon built for Yahweh.

Youareforgiven:

Jehovah Lord God is One, but yet Three.

Where did you find this in the scriptures?

Jesus and Moses confirmed that Jehovah is ONE Jehovah! Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

Youareforgiven:


This Lord is said to be coming to His temple. He is the owner of the temple. If this Lord is not Yahweh or Jehovah then Jehovah has a rival. But it is Jehovah as you people call him. Jehovah Lord God is One, but yet Three.

Except you will deny that this temple is not the temple that Solomon built for Yahweh.

You are making very Good points.

MaxInDHouse:
@ Matthew 11:11-14 we read:

Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he (John the baptist) is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come.

And @ Matthew 17:10-13 we read:

However, the disciples put the question to him: “Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” In reply he said: “E·liʹjah is indeed coming and will restore all things. However, I say to you that E·liʹjah has already come, and they did not recognize him but did whatever they wanted with him. In this way also, the Son of man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples perceived that he spoke to them about John the Baptist

From the two highlighted scriptures we found out that Jesus is implying that John the baptist is the long awaited Elijah. Malachi 4:5

First of all the Jews knew very well that Elijah was not a Jew rather he was a Samaritan and secondly he was taken up to heaven by chariots of fire. So if Elijah should return he could have either been born in Samaria or descended from heaven just as he was taken but instead he was born among the Jews.

So if we want to explain using the scriptures to help a modern day Judaist what evidence does Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples have in the Old Testament to ascertain that John the baptist was truly Elijah?

Nice post.
But I have a few questions.
Matthew 17:11
Jesus Christ said John the Baptist would restore all things. Can you list the things that John restored.
Secondly, John will turn the heart of the father's to the children and the heart of the children to their fathers? How did he do it. Who are the father's and who are their children.

tctrills:

Nice post.
But I have a few questions.
Matthew 17:11
Jesus Christ said John the Baptist would restore all things. Can you list the things that John restored.
Secondly, John will turn the heart of the father's to the children and the heart of the children to their fathers? How did he do it. Who are the father's and who are their children.

Thanks for your time but i don't think i will like to discuss with you since we never agreed on who is a Christian!

MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for your time but i don't think i will like to discuss with you since we never agreed on who is a Christian!

Ok because I did not buy into you church doctrine, you will not discuss with me .
I guess you should have stated that this was a thread for only those who believe in JW doctrines.

But then for the sake of others on the thread, can you attempt the above questions
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tctrills:

Ok because I did not buy into you church doctrine, you will not discuss with me .
I guess you should have stated that this was a thread for only those who believe in JW doctrines.

But then for the sake of others on the thread, can you attempt the above questions
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I will only attend to people whose heart is not twisted like claiming a first century Jewish man already had those who have been PRACTICING what he has not even taught when he has not even been born.

So thanks for the interest but i am for people who are willing to admit their errors not those sticking to it despite seeing their blunders.

What is the evidence Jesus had claiming that John the baptist was Elijah?

MaxInDHouse:


I will only attend to people whose heart is not twisted like claiming a first century Jewish man already had those who have been PRACTICING what he has not even taught when he has not even been born.

So thanks for the interest but i am for people who are willing to admit their errors not those sticking to it despite seeing their blunders.

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Sticking to errors that those that bear the name CHRISTIAN don't belong to Jesus

tctrills:

Ok because I did not buy into you church doctrine, you will not discuss with me .
I guess you should have stated that this was a thread for only those who believe in JW doctrines.

But then for the sake of others on the thread, can you attempt the above questions
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Don't worry he will start looking for you when he has reasons to blackmail you over your comments and conversations with him before.


For now those issues regarding faith and believe expressed in the words of the those Israelites who lived before Jesus came to the earth still hurts

MaxInDHouse:
@ Matthew 11:11-14 we read:

Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he (John the baptist) is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come.

And @ Matthew 17:10-13 we read:

However, the disciples put the question to him: “Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” In reply he said: “E·liʹjah is indeed coming and will restore all things. However, I say to you that E·liʹjah has already come, and they did not recognize him but did whatever they wanted with him. In this way also, the Son of man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples perceived that he spoke to them about John the Baptist

From the two highlighted scriptures we found out that Jesus is implying that John the baptist is the long awaited Elijah. Malachi 4:5

First of all the Jews knew very well that Elijah was not a Jew rather he was a Samaritan and secondly he was taken up to heaven by chariots of fire. So if Elijah should return he could have either been born in Samaria or descended from heaven just as he was taken but instead he was born among the Jews.

So if we want to explain using the scriptures to help a modern day Judaist what evidence does Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples have in the Old Testament to ascertain that John the baptist was truly Elijah?

so who was those two prophet that was killed by the paste in the book of Revelation

Kingsempires:
so who was those two prophet that was killed by the paste in the book of Revelation

If only you will welcome a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.

I can guarantee that you will know them just ask for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:


I will only attend to people whose heart is not twisted like claiming a first century Jewish man already had those who have been PRACTICING what he has not even taught when he has not even been born.

So thanks for the interest but i am for people who are willing to admit their errors not those sticking to it despite seeing their blunders.

Now that you have returned, I hope you find the courage to answer my questions in your other thread.
I hope you wouldn't change your mind again when I start hitting with questions

tctrills:

Now that you have returned, I hope you find the courage to answer my questions in your other thread.
I hope you wouldn't change your mind again when I start hitting with questions

Can anyone practice what they never learned?

MaxInDHouse:


Can anyone practice what they never learned?

Ok we are going back in circles. I already explained to you that you can learn something without learning what it is called.
I can go to a village and teach the kids the butterfly stroke in swimming but just because they don't know it's called butterfly stroke doesn't mean they don't know how to do it.
I am not the one getting irritated. You have asked this question 10 time. Please go straight to your point.

tctrills:

I can go to a village and teach the kids the butterfly stroke in swimming.

If they had been TAUGHT they have qualified to be called in any competition that has to do with that task but those who have not been taught can never ever be qualified.

MaxInDHouse:


If they had been TAUGHT they have qualified to be called in any competition that has to do with that task but those who have not been taught can never ever be qualified.

Good so even if they can't define butterfly stroke when asked as long as they can do it, they are good to go right?
That's what I have been saying all night. Please what have I said that you disagree with?

tctrills:

Please what have I said that you disagree with?

People that lived and died before Jesus started his earthly ministry can't be Christians.

If you continue arguing blindly on that then don't bother quoting me!

MaxInDHouse:


People that lived and died before Jesus started his earthly ministry can't be Christians.

If you continue arguing blindly on that then don't bother quoting me!

Just because your pastor told you so doesn't make it so. Read your Bible and stop listening to your false teachers

ELIJAH TOO WAS "INAMIMO", HOLY GHOST FIRE.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD SUFFERS VIOLENCE AND VIOLENCE TAKES IT BY FORCE.

NO GREATER HUMAN THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST. HE WAS BEHEADED ON A PLATE. AND THAT WAS HIS VISA FOR LIFE AND RESURRECTION.

JESUS DOESN'T NEED ANY PROOF. JESUS IS THE LORD, THE LIFE AND THE RESURRECTION.

JESUS DOESN'T NEED ANY PROOF. JESUS IS THE LORD, THE LIFE AND THE RESURRECTION.

AND HE IS THE PROPITIATION FOR OUR SINS.

tctrills:

Just because your pastor told you so doesn't make it so. Read your Bible and stop listening to your false teachers

OK keep to your lane!

MaxInDHouse:

OK keep to your lane!

I have never seen you this uncomfortable. I suspect something here

tctrills:

I have never seen you this uncomfortable. I suspect something here

You are DERAILING the thread so instead of raising something different stick to the topic of discussion.

What proof did Jesus have saying John the baptist is Elijah?

MaxInDHouse:

You are DETAILING the thread so instead of raising something different stick to the topic of discussion.

What proof did Jesus have saying John the baptist is Elijah?

Now you can't answer my question you ask yours.
Jesus Christ was entitled to revelation and communication from heaven. So if John was Elijah, he would know.
I am not detailing my questions are based 9n verses that were quoted

tctrills:

Jesus Christ was entitled to revelation and communication from heaven. So if John was Elijah, he would know.

The name "Jesus" was never mentioned in the Old Testament and that's the only scripture to be referenced in the first century to back anything someone say.

Can you adequately use the old testament to prove that Jesus was right with that statement at Matthew 11:13-15?