LordReed:


An interesting read. However there is one factor the writer doesn't contend with. Religion. It is perhaps simultaneously the biggest and the least spoken about driver of this situation. A lot of religious sentiments will need to be dismantled to go in the direction the writer suggests.

that is why i said that idiot you are chatting with is driven by hate.
Iran has been in a cold war with Saudi Arabia for decades and it is due to religion, dominant Sunni vs dominant Shiite. it was because of the war they lost to Iraq they decided to use proxies like Houthis and Hamas to do their dirty business. They said they were going to bomb Israel after the leader of Hamas was killed in Iran. Why haven't they retaliated? because they don't want their city to be bombed. they directed hamas and Hezbollah to attack Israel but the victims should be the aggressors because they are winning.

LordReed:


An interesting read. However there is one factor the writer doesn't contend with. Religion. It is perhaps simultaneously the biggest and the least spoken about driver of this situation. A lot of religious sentiments will need to be dismantled to go in the direction the writer suggests.

But, the author isn't arguing to disengage fully from Israel. The author is arguing for normalizing the relationship and getting it back to where Israel is the junior partner and the US is the senior party. Or the US engaging in ISrael in a way that advances our own interests rather than allowing Israel to advance their interests while hurting ours.

Look it we have Americans getting killed by Israel, while the US is the lone country using it's sway to prevent votes that would otherwise be more or less unanimous in the UN. Our uncritical support of Israel has made them worse off, not better. Has allowed their government to move far right and put them in the situation where their PM has an arrest warrant by the Haque. It's very shortsighted and Israel has handcuffed us to their public immorality.

IjeBos:


But, the author isn't arguing to disengage fully from Israel. The author is arguing for normalizing the relationship and getting it back to where Israel is the junior partner and the US is the senior party. Or the US engaging in ISrael in a way that advances our own interests rather than allowing Israel to advance their interests while hurting ours.

Look it we have Americans getting killed by Israel, while the US is the lone country using it's sway to prevent votes that would otherwise be more or less unanimous in the UN. Our uncritical support of Israel has made them worse off, not better. Has allowed their government to move far right and put them in the situation where their PM has an arrest warrant by the Haque. It's very shortsighted and Israel has handcuffed us to their public immorality.

Mr. harvard with redundancies.

All you said is BS.
you have no clue what the interests of the United States are. again, keep hatred aside. Jew hatred runs in your veins.
Hamas killed an American citizen no issues for you.

IjeBos:


There has been debate about this. Is what Israel offers the US greater than what we can achieve in the Middle East with the goodwill of a just peace.

Here is one analysis
https://www.cato.org/commentary/israel-strategic-liability-united-states

"The Biden administration (and America) faces a choice: continue following the Netanyahu government into the abyss, or forcefully pressure it to change course."

budaatum:


"The Biden administration (and America) faces a choice: continue following the Netanyahu government into the abyss, or forcefully pressure it to change course."

Change course from what?

bemeruca:


Change course from what?

From the blind support of Israel.

budaatum:


From the blind support of Israel.

What do you suggest Israel, us and hamas do?

bemeruca:


What do you suggest Israel, us and hamas do?

Sit down and resolve their differences instead of trying to eliminate each other.

budaatum:


Sit down and resolve their differences instead of trying to eliminate each other.

Very funny.
If Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi can sit down and resolve the issue of Israel, maybe the problem is Palestine. Israeli soldiers risk their lives for Arabs captured by Hamas. These Arabs were once on the other side.

To sit down and resolve the issues, hostages must first be released, then hamas must surrender

IjeBos:


But, the author isn't arguing to disengage fully from Israel. The author is arguing for normalizing the relationship and getting it back to where Israel is the junior partner and the US is the senior party. Or the US engaging in ISrael in a way that advances our own interests rather than allowing Israel to advance their interests while hurting ours.

Look it we have Americans getting killed by Israel, while the US is the lone country using it's sway to prevent votes that would otherwise be more or less unanimous in the UN. Our uncritical support of Israel has made them worse off, not better. Has allowed their government to move far right and put them in the situation where their PM has an arrest warrant by the Haque. It's very shortsighted and Israel has handcuffed us to their public immorality.

Even to change the relationship to where Israel is the junior partner and the US is the senior party will involve contending with religious sentiment.

Obrigardo:
Maga cultists are stupid brooo.
They have no shame. What the foorrrkk is this lol

Oh Blessed immaculate mother!

Bless me Ultima.
Receive ya blessings Kamala ma'am.

Side by side

https://youtube.com/shorts/xMECbdxn9uY?si=FHx_GsjYqzyXbzJO

bemeruca:


Very funny.
If Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi can sit down and resolve the issue of Israel, maybe the problem is Palestine. Israeli soldiers risk their lives for Arabs captured by Hamas. These Arabs were once on the other side.

To sit down and resolve the issues, hostages must first be released, then hamas must surrender

Israel-Palestine began before Hamas, and Hamas is a reaction. But you'd never agree, so further conversation is pointless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxLDYkX7l9A

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerjzxlpvdo

IjeBos:


This is how nuts and how ridiculous Trump was. He was arguing that the key rate of 1% was too high.
Trump tried his hardest to turn America into Nigeria. He ran roughshod over every institution.
If he gets a second term he may well succeed.

Oh, I get it...
From what I looked up, Trump did criticize the interest rates, but The Reserve had no option than to lower interest. The COVID and some of old Trump's policies, especially the ChiNA tarrifs. 😁. ChiNA.

budaatum:


Israel-Palestine began before Hamas, and Hamas is a reaction. But you'd never agree, so further conversation is pointless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxLDYkX7l9A

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerjzxlpvdo

I would argue, Hamas has existed from the very beginning. Only they weren't called Hamas. Hamas is the bigotry Manifest. And that has led to the manifestation of zionist bigotry.

That said, I don't think the Arabs will accept to live side by side with Isreal.

Otherwise, they would have done so already.

There cannot be sitting at the table with such kind of folks. Reminds of uni days. "we won't allow a Christian elect to lead as Student union government president, therefore no SUG. Either that or flames."

I kid you not.

Quite unfortunate.

budaatum:


Israel-Palestine began before Hamas, and Hamas is a reaction. But you'd never agree, so further conversation is pointless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxLDYkX7l9A

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerjzxlpvdo

Hamas is not a reaction. Before hamas the PLO existed. They caused a lot of havoc in the Middle East including multiple assassination attempts on the king of Jordan, They colluded and supported Sadam in his invasion of Kuwait. we all knew the US kicked the Iraqis out of Kuwait. at the end of that war, Kuwait expelled thousands of Palestinian refugees in the country. They went to Lebanon when they were expelled from Jordan with the help of Pakistan (killing more than 25k Palestinians) it's called black September. Guess what happened in Lebanon when they took them in; Civil war. again, just as they did in Jordan, they formed a state within a state. Lebanon is shit today and Palestinians are one of the reasons.

Hamas is not a reaction, Hamas is a continuation of their desire to exterminate Israel right from the day the nation was created. Others gave up that ambition and embraced peace except for the Palestinians and their devil Iran

kkins25:


I would argue, Hamas has existed from the very beginning. Only they weren't called Hamas. Hamas is the bigotry Manifest. And that has led to the manifestation of zionist bigotry.

That said, I don't think the Arabs will accept to live side by side with Isreal.

Otherwise, they would have done so already.

There cannot be sitting at the table with such kind of folks. Reminds of uni days. "we won't allow a Christian elect to lead as Student union government president, therefore no SUG. Either that or flames."

I kid you not.

Quite unfortunate.

Bwahahahahaha!

bemeruca:


Hamas is not a reaction. Before hamas the PLO existed. They caused a lot of havoc in the Middle East including multiple assassination attempts on the king of Jordan, They colluded and supported Sadam in his invasion of Kuwait. we all knew the US kicked the Iraqis out of Kuwait. at the end of that war, Kuwait expelled thousands of Palestinian refugees in the country. They went to Lebanon when they were expelled from Jordan with the help of Pakistan (killing more than 25k Palestinians) it's called black September. Guess what happened in Lebanon when they took them in; Civil war. again, just as they did in Jordan, they formed a state within a state. Lebanon is shit today and Palestinians are one of the reasons.

Hamas is not a reaction, Hamas is a continuation of their desire to exterminate Israel right from the day the nation was created. Others gave up that ambition and embraced peace except for the Palestinians and their devil Iran

Very correct. Fatah Abbas has not held elections at the West Bank because Hamas will win hands down. Palestinians prefer Hamas to Fatah.
Hamas won Gaza elections in 2006 and then forcefully routed out Abbas faction.
The smug West thinks Abbas is a partner in peace, he is not. His aim is to bleed concessions from Israel until they eradicate the Jews either by genocide or right of return where Arabs who are descendants of those who fled 1948 war are allowed to return to Israel and become the majority.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha!

This rapist felon is going to die in jail, trust me.
The number of republicans who will vote against this wannabe tyrant will shock the world.

57 DAYS TO GO!

57 days to retire fake pastor olaadegbu and basilico loco!

Hey basilico loco,
Isn't it shameful that you expect nothing from the rapist felon at the debate but you'll want more from Kamala Harris.
Are you feeling the shame just yet?

Obrigardo:
Hey basilico loco,
Isn't it shameful that you expect nothing from the rapist felon at the debate but you'll want more from Kamala Harris.
Are you feeling the shame just yet?

You posted someone saying democrats have moved to the middle.
Lies. They have moved far left Kamala is the most liberal senator ever. Her policies are a stepping stone to communism.

As for debate Kamala is the one who wants to change the rules as agreed to in the first debate . She is prepping for debate, Joe has been on vacation. Who is running the country? You guess is as good as mine She is a front, the real welders of power are behind the scenes pushing the media narrative. They have recreated her , from one of the most unpopular candidate to the best there ever was. All without her answering a single question. Joe wasn't to step down because he knew Kamala Harris will not hack it. The deep state knew Joe would lose Obama wanted the DNC convention to pick the candidate. They made Joe humiliate himself and got rid of him. But Joe endorsed her forcing all of the players to go along with her.

Election election. The heat is on

basilico:


Very correct. Fatah Abbas has not held elections at the West Bank because Hamas will win hands down. Palestinians prefer Hamas to Fatah.
Hamas won Gaza elections in 2006 and then forcefully routed out Abbas faction.
The smug West thinks Abbas is a partner in peace, he is not. His aim is to bleed concessions from Israel until they eradicate the Jews either by genocide or right of return where Arabs who are descendants of those who fled 1948 war are allowed to return to Israel and become the majority.

Abbas does not have the strong desire Hamas to eliminate Israel which is why the Palestinian people prefers hamas. Promises that can only bring destruction instead of peace

Project 2025

happney65:
Project 2025

Kamala Harris is a.liar. project 2025 was crafted by Trump allies as part of a policy paper His campaign had no input.

A community of 60,000 suddenly got an influx of 20,000 Haitians. Their pets are now in jeopardy because the Haitians are eating their cats, sheep, dogs, ducks and geese.

A new report claims that Haitian immigrants are eating residents’ pets and wildlife in Springfield, Ohio, leading residents to warn each other to protect their pets.

“Springfield Ohio residents are warning their pets and wildlife like ducks and geese are being eaten by Haitians,” The Calvin Coolidge Project wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “One neighbor said she saw her cat being carved up by the Haitians. Another neighbor said a police officer told her this is happening to dogs, ducks and geese.”

basilico:


You posted someone saying democrats have moved to the middle.
Lies. They have moved far left Kamala is the most liberal senator ever. Her policies are a stepping stone to communism.

As for debate Kamala is the one who wants to change the rules as agreed to in the first debate . She is prepping for debate, Joe has been on vacation. Who is running the country? You guess is as good as mine She is a front, the real welders of power are behind the scenes pushing the media narrative. They have recreated her , from one of the most unpopular candidate to the best there ever was. All without her answering a single question. Joe wasn't to step down because he knew Kamala Harris will not hack it. The deep state knew Joe would lose Obama wanted the DNC convention to pick the candidate. They made Joe humiliate himself and got rid of him. But Joe endorsed her forcing all of the players to go along with her.

basilico loco, na wa for you ooo
You seem to think that the US presidency is a dictatorship one man rule. Why dont you understand that the presidency is a whole set of team with experts manning cabinet posts?

I understand why you think that way because you see nothing wrong with the rapist felon dreaming of being a dictator and his love for dictators.

basilico:
A community of 60,000 suddenly got an influx of 20,000 Haitians. Their pets are now in jeopardy because the Haitians are eating their cats, sheep, dogs, ducks and geese.

A new report claims that Haitian immigrants are eating residents’ pets and wildlife in Springfield, Ohio, leading residents to warn each other to protect their pets.

“Springfield Ohio residents are warning their pets and wildlife like ducks and geese are being eaten by Haitians,” The Calvin Coolidge Project wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “One neighbor said she saw her cat being carved up by the Haitians. Another neighbor said a police officer told her this is happening to dogs, ducks and geese.”

Another brain dead idiotic lie again.

You see how I busted your Venezuelan gang hoax and you shut up?

This is so easy to debunk too.

Not that the ghost town is bustling with any thing to begin with but let's leave it to low IQ idiots like you to copy paste for us without deep fact checking.

What a clown. 🤡

basilico:


Kamala Harris is a.liar. project 2025 was crafted by Trump allies as part of a policy paper His campaign had no input.

While everyone says you are a sucker for even believing that. Oh and shady Vance wrote the forward for the henchman's book and every word out of his mouth has been front, right, center project 2025.

Are you this foolish?