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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:57am On Sep 11
Obrigardo:


Deranged maga cultist is in a complete and total meltdown. So he masks his disappointment in his rapist overlord by veering off topic and off tangent.

I also watched the debate and what you have been putting down is really an emotional outburst. To someone who didn't watch it, they would still think are delusional.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by COOL10(m): 7:10am On Sep 11
Here are TRUE screenshots of what Trump's supporters have been saying across multiple platforms.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 7:18am On Sep 11
LordReed:


Right. A person talking of a stupid conspiracy as if it was real didn't hurt his campaign. Goes to show.

You might not like that takeaway, but it is factual.
Look up mainstream polls of who won the Trump-Clinton debates. Clinton won virtually all of them in the three debates.
An actual clean sweep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_debates

She still lost the election.
You're focused on the conspiracy but 11m+ people illegally entered the country.
Some of these illegals have murdered, raped, and committed a range of violent crimes.
The plurality of Americans are now open to deportations.
They recall that Trump closed the border and built walls. And when Biden-Harris came in, they opened the border and stopped the wall construction.
A conspiracy is not changing this reality.

Trump pointed this discrepancy out, in a crude way, sure; but he did nonetheless.
And he also did on the flip-flopping, on foreign policy, her record, and more.
Kamala did well in baiting Trump and getting him to waste precious time on inanities.
But he still got the hits in. And Americans will see that.

The same CNN Snap poll that showed Kamala handily winning the debate 63-37, showed Trump actually increasing his lead on the economy by 2 points compared to a pre-debate base poll.
So there are people who watched the debate, probably thought Kamala won, and came away with the conclusion that Trump is better on the economy.
Now, why would they think that?

Since 2016, the consensus on Trump is that he is not polished, he is brawny and always wants to get into confrontations.
Last night did not change that perception. It also did not change the perception that his 4 years were better on the economy, immigration, and foreign policy.
That is why raum and others (myself included) are saying he's still in this.

-Lord

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by COOL10(m): 7:18am On Sep 11
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:19am On Sep 11
Twitter user says she was wearing audio enabled earrings .
Nothing is beyond democrats when it comes to cheating

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:24am On Sep 11
To prove bias the moderators at the onset of the debate should have settled the matter of project 2025 . They should have asked Trump to state unequivocally whether it's his byproduct and since it's not , they should not have allowed Kamala to use any lies about project 2025.
That would have sent her home immediately.
They let her lie over and over about project 2025.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:30am On Sep 11
ObaIgwe1:


It was at this point he started losing it. He went bananas the moment Harris got into her skin talking about his rally's crowd.

The guy is just a bully that was rightly put in place. There were lots of talk about Harris getting on his skin before the debate... But I didn't expect Harris to get on his skin so easily as she did.

Obama was right... Trump is too obsessed with crowd size... For me, he can easily be flattered or provoked into wrongdoing... Not an ideal candidate to be a commander in chief.

Can you just do a summary..How specific are Kamala plans vis-a-vis ze Trump ones. What did people learn objectively from the debate.
Trump closing was good. Why now when she had 3.5 years.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:31am On Sep 11
wolesmile:


Even with this from his supporter?

Go on X and see how his American supporters are crying foul that it's either ABC gave Kamala the questions beforehand, or that her handlers are the ones that set the questions.
You can analyse the outcome more than his real supporters, right?

ABC didn't give the questions.
They gave her the answers.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:48am On Sep 11
basilico:


Really the whole debate was about letting her run wild on vague promises and going for the jugular on Trump. I commented long before the debate was over that he wasn't answering the questions as he should have, they fact checked closed the topic and moved on.
That was no debate.

Trump actually did win that debate. It was clear as darkness before daylight. Republicans were warned that ABC moderating this debate will be like leading a goat down a lions den and asking the Pride of lions to take care of the goat. We all knew how it would end. But I’m really impressed with the way Trump performed. I think he knew how it would turn out too, so he, at some point, towards the end basically used the remaining time to wipe the floor with Harris. And boy, he did a fantastic job of that.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 7:48am On Sep 11
LordAdam16:


You might not like that takeaway, but it is factual.
Look up mainstream polls of who won the Trump-Clinton debates. Clinton won virtually all of them in the three debates.
An actual clean sweep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_debates

She still lost the election.
You're focused on the conspiracy but 11m+ people illegally entered the country.
Some of these illegals have murdered, raped, and committed a range of violent crimes.
The plurality of Americans are now open to deportations.
They recall that Trump closed the border and built walls. And when Biden-Harris came in, they opened the border and stopped the wall construction.
A conspiracy is not changing this reality.

Trump pointed this discrepancy out, in a crude way, sure; but he did nonetheless.
And he also did on the flip-flopping, on foreign policy, her record, and more.
Kamala did well in baiting Trump and getting him to waste precious time on inanities.
But he still got the hits in. And Americans will see that.

The same CNN Snap poll that showed Kamala handily winning the debate 63-37, showed Trump actually increasing his lead on the economy by 2 points compared to a pre-debate base poll.
So there are people who watched the debate, probably thought Kamala won, and came away with the conclusion that Trump is better on the economy.
Now, why would they think that?

Since 2016, the consensus on Trump is that he is not polished, he is brawny and always wants to get into confrontations.
Last night did not change that perception. It also did not change the perception that his 4 years were better on the economy, immigration, and foreign policy.
That is why raum and others (myself included) are saying he's still in this.

-Lord

Right. He is only just a little crazy so it's OK. LoLz.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 7:53am On Sep 11
LordReed:


Right. He is only just a little crazy so it's OK. LoLz.

Take it up with Americans.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:54am On Sep 11
LordAdam16:


You might not like that takeaway, but it is factual.
Look up mainstream polls of who won the Trump-Clinton debates. Clinton won virtually all of them in the three debates.
An actual clean sweep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_debates.

-Lord

I knew a “reasonable” person here has “Lord” with his moniker. Definitely not Reed. It was Adam.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:35am On Sep 11
LordAdam16:


Take it up with Americans.

-Lord

Yeah sure. LoLz.

Are you a US citizen by any chance?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:36am On Sep 11
ono:


I knew a “reasonable” person here has “Lord” with his moniker. Definitely not Reed. It was Adam.

I know you like crazy, don't lie to yourself. LoLz.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 8:43am On Sep 11
The Debate was sweet. Happy I woke up at the very nick of time. Trump was running Helter skelter. Kamala really got to the miserable Man's skin

cheesy cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 8:44am On Sep 11
LordReed:


Yeah sure. LoLz.

Are you a US citizen by any chance?

My postulations are evidence-based.

CNN's flash poll after the debate had this inference:

Debate watchers’ views of Trump, meanwhile, shifted little – 39% rated him favorably and 51% unfavorably following the debate, similar to his pre-debate numbers among the same voters.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html

Trump is a known quantity. Harris had a decent performance, but Trump held his own.
As I said at the start, you don't have to like this position or even accept it. But that's the objective take.

-Lord

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wolesmile(m): 8:48am On Sep 11
COOL10:




Do you people ever get tired of telling lies? It's becoming disgusting at this point. It's best to keep quiet than to speak and end up looking stupid. You called the guy in the picture a Trump supporter, but I just checked his profile and saw that he's not.


His profile clearly reads "Never Trump", "Weak and Gay", "MSNBC analyst" and his posts are filled with anti-Trump rhetorics, yet you called him a Trump supporter. Y'all are disgusting, just like the unrepentant liar you support.


Next time you decide to quote me, you'd do well to tell the truth. If that's too hard for you then you're better off taking your lies elsewhere because they won't work on me.


Here's the guy's profile:


Oh...
So you think my comment about Trump's supporters is about Tim?
Hell no.
Go on X.
If you can't find their rants, I'll give a lot of handles with thousands of comments about their wailing.
I am not American. I don't live in the US. Na Naija concern me. But Trump was warped at that debate.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:57am On Sep 11
happney65:
The Debate was sweet. Happy I woke up at the very nick of time. Trump was running Helter skelter. Kamala really got to the miserable Man's skin

cheesy cheesy

What are her policies besides creating an opportunity income ?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 9:00am On Sep 11
basilico:


What are her policies besides creating an opportunity income ?

Una still get mouth talk my friend basilico the loco. cheesy cheesy

You better go and sleep

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Konkoja: 9:14am On Sep 11
happney65:


Una still get mouth talk my friend basilico the loco. cheesy cheesy

You better go and sleep

🤣🤣🤣
These MAGA goons are shameless just like their god 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:14am On Sep 11
That was a tag team. Why the moderators did not call out Kamala lies. Fir instance on insulin. Who cast the first stone?

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The President signed four sweeping executive orders on Friday, which together will significantly lower the cost of prescription drugs while increasing access to life-saving medications such as insulin:

The first order directs federally qualified health centers to pass along massive discounts on insulin and epinephrine from drug companies to low-income Americans.
The second order will allow the safe, legal importation of prescription drugs from Canada and other countries where the price for identical drugs is lower.
The third order will prohibit secret deals between drug manufacturers and pharmacy “benefit manager” middlemen, ensuring patients directly benefit from available discounts at the pharmacy counter.
The fourth order ensures the United States pays the lowest price available among economically advanced countries for Medicare Part B drugs. The United States often pays 80 percent more for these drugs than other developed nations.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by COOL10(m): 9:26am On Sep 11
wolesmile:

Oh...
So you think my comment about Trump's supporters is about Tim?
Hell no.
Go on X.
If you can't find their rants, I'll give a lot of handles with thousands of comments about their wailing.
I am not American. I don't live in the US. Na Naija concern me. But Trump was warped at that debate.


Guy, you lied and I exposed your lies. Accept your L in peace and stop trying to save face by telling more lies. You'll only end up disgracing yourself further for all the people on this thread to see.


I already corrected you. Now go and sin no more.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 9:30am On Sep 11
Konkoja:


🤣🤣🤣
These MAGA goons are shameless just like their god 🤣🤣🤣

Extremely shameless my brother.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:33am On Sep 11
Got a question for the dumb maga cultists like basilico loco.

Why do you think the Army will respect a convicted felon when he can't even be accepted into the draft or volunteer as a convicted felon?

It's rhetorical by the way coz you dipshits don't have any coherent take on it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:36am On Sep 11
basilico:


What are her policies besides creating an opportunity income ?

I remember you were acting like a sleuth posting Kamalaharris.com campaign website, saying you found no policies etc.
But now she's posted them there for the world to see, you revert back to the stale maga tactic - willful ignorance.

You got no shame bro.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 9:56am On Sep 11
LordAdam16:


My postulations are evidence-based.

CNN's flash poll after the debate had this inference:



https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html

Trump is a known quantity. Harris had a decent performance, but Trump held his own.
As I said at the start, you don't have to like this position or even accept it. But that's the objective take.

-Lord

I asked a simple question and after this lengthy response you still didn't answer the simple question.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:56am On Sep 11
Obrigardo:


I remember you were acting like a sleuth posting Kamalaharris.com campaign website, saying you found no policies etc.
But now she's posted them there for the world to see, you revert back to the stale maga tactic - willful ignorance.

You got no shame bro.

She posted them on Sunday, nothing specific.
She copied from joe Bidens website.Are you aware of this?

I feel for you.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:57am On Sep 11
LordReed:


I asked a simple question and after this lengthy response you still didn't answer the simple question.

You found someone else to repeat your one - liners?
Are you married by any chance?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 10:01am On Sep 11
basilico:


You found someone else to repeat your one - liners?
Are you married by any chance?

Someone asked me to take it up with Americans and I ask if he's a US citizen. Now tell me what your question has to do with this conversation.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:05am On Sep 11
Kamala vHarris is 5' 4 1/4", and Trump is 6'3", giving

She seemed as tall as Trump on stage.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:12am On Sep 11
https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-abc-debate-moderators-tell-multiple-lies-actively-assist-harris-in-debate-cmc/

It was 3 vs Trump. They let get away with lies, challenged Trump without letting him justify .
There should be a law against media being an arm of political parties.
Muir record. 80% positive for Kamala and 85% negative on Trump past few months.
The media no longer hides it's intentions and biases
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wolesmile(m): 10:30am On Sep 11
COOL10:



Guy, you lied and I exposed your lies. Accept your L in peace and stop trying to save face by telling more lies. You'll only end up disgracing yourself further for all the people on this thread to see.


I already corrected you. Now go and sin no more.
Lied?
Do you even know what lying means?
And for your information, know how to address people on this faceless forum. I am not your guy. I am old enough to father you, with more life experiences.

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