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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 4:10pm On Sep 10
iamoyindamola:

This is where I disagree, why will he stay when he knows he won’t get more than 5-10 minutes per match when he can go and play 75+ per match elsewhere
Na 10 Porto give am o stop playing
He is a confirm starter
Blue Ray is actually right. Arteta was more concern in making Viera a Saka deputy than Odegaard deputy which he was thought to be. If he was getting minutes when odegaard Is off, he wouldn't be unhappy.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:19pm On Sep 10
germaphobe:

Blue Ray is actually right. Arteta was more concern in making Viera a Saka deputy than Odegaard deputy which he was thought to be. If he was getting minutes when odegaard Is off, he wouldn't be unhappy.
You guys are not getting it
This guy wants more minutes, telling someone that think he deserves to play to stay on bench will make him more angry just like ramsdale
If arteta can’t convince ramsdale to be keeping cup matches then he can’t viera to stay on bench and wait for opportunities that won’t pass 10 minutes
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:31pm On Sep 10
iamoyindamola:

You guys are not getting it
This guy wants more minutes, telling someone that think he deserves to play to stay on bench will make him more angry just like ramsdale
If arteta can’t convince ramsdale to be keeping cup matches then he can’t viera to stay on bench and wait for opportunities that won’t pass 10 minutes

You are the one that is not getting it.

1. Ramsdale is Arsenal number 1 who lost his place between the pole to a goalkeeper on loan.

2. He was unfortunate we didn't do well in most cup competitions last year so you can understand his frustrations watching Raya keep all through the rest of the season in the league.

3. Viera on the other hand was never a starter at Arsenal; he came to Arsenal knowing he will play limited number of matches.

4. He was unfortunate with injuries and when he was fit eventually Arteta really didn't give him chance. We had a lot of matches we had enough goal advantage last year that Arteta should've given Viera at least 15 minutes but he didn't.

5. Arteta basically showed Viera was not part of his plans in the forseeable future and that made Viera to want to seek playing opportunities elsewhere cos he won't make it to Portugese national team call-up if things continue that way for him at Arsenal.

6. I didn't say Arteta should've kept him against his will, I'm only saying Arteta made him an unhappy player by his actions and inactions.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:33pm On Sep 10
Fkforyou:


I agree with you.

It’s an opportunity for the team to show their mental strength and for the coach to show his creativity.

I just don’t want any negativity about our fixtures.

We have to work with what we have.

The embolden separates the greats and has been one factor hindering the success (I trust some people to misconstrue the meaning of success and start throwing tantrums) of this team under Arteta's leadership. I always say, my biggest issue with Arteta and his coaching is the continuous inability of the team to adapt to on/ off field changes.

While these injuries are serious and impactful, they are part of the game and the reason you build a roster to adapt whenever they happen. Even with these injuries, we should be looking at Arteta with confidence knowing he can find a way to get us the needed results pending when our players recover.

This constant doom and gloom after an injury doesn't bode well with me. Replacing Odegaard is going to be tough but please, does it mean we should end season now? I believe if we play a pragmatic game, we should get a W against Spuds. Losing to those DIRTS is a no no for me, I no dey use am play.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:58pm On Sep 10
BlueRayDick:


You are the one that is not getting it.

1. Ramsdale is Arsenal number 1 who lost his place between the pole to a goalkeeper on loan.

2. He was unfortunate we didn't do well in most cup competitions last year so you can understand his frustrations watching Raya keep all through the rest of the season in the league.

3. Viera on the other hand was never a starter at Arsenal; he came to Arsenal knowing he will play limited number of matches.

4. He was unfortunate with injuries and when he was fit eventually Arteta really didn't give him chance. We had a lot of matches we had enough goal advantage last year that Arteta should've given Viera at least 15 minutes but he didn't.

5. Arteta basically showed Viera was not part of his plans in the forseeable future and that made Viera to want to seek playing opportunities elsewhere cos he won't make it to Portugese national team call-up if things continue that way for him at Arsenal.

6. I didn't say Arteta should've kept him against his will, I'm only saying Arteta made him an unhappy player by his actions and inactions.
Same way for ramsdale
There was a stats last season 90% of our starter played 35+ matches than any team
These players knows he doesn’t rotate even in dead rubber matches
Why won’t they be unhappy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 6:03pm On Sep 10
Your team vs Spurs?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 6:49pm On Sep 10
Jodera:


Omorr, arsenal without Odegaard, I don't know oo cos I don't know who's really creative that we have left (no Esr, no Viera sef). If they can just put Zinny there, I'll be happy but I doubt.

Na real mechanical ball we go okay that day cheesy
Zinny is the best option tbh but I know Arteta has other plans grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:08pm On Sep 10
⚫🟢🔴Arsenal being forced by the Premier League and PGMOL to play in the black away kit on Sunday at Spurs.

Arsenal wanted to play in red but the kit was deemed to ‘feature too much white’ so there were fears it would clash with Spurs’ kit.

(Charles Watts)

Normally, na black Dem dey wear go funeral. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:38pm On Sep 10
Shegzdave:

Zinny is the best option tbh but I know Arteta has other plans grin
This is the best time to play Zinny. If there's any time to do so, it's now where there's no much options and Zinny himself is 3rd choice.

A good performance from Zinny will make him automatically 2nd choice to Odegaard. Way way better than 3rd choice Lb and even in his preferred position sef

I wish Arteta fit just shock us
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 9:32pm On Sep 10
shocked shocked

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by toluxe0075: 10:07pm On Sep 10
We want to win the league and perhaps the champions league but it’s Havertz and Gabriel Jesus that are main strikers 😂😂😂

No wahala now. As usual, we will cope with various excuses at the end of the season.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:11pm On Sep 10
Jodera:

This is the best time to play Zinny. If there's any time to do so, it's now where there's no much options and Zinny himself is 3rd choice.

A good performance from Zinny will make him automatically 2nd choice to Odegaard. Way way better than 3rd choice Lb and even in his preferred position sef

I wish Arteta fit just shock us

Hopefully🤞

Zinny is better at that position and he’s gonna be second choice like you said instead of that LB he’s playing
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:24pm On Sep 10
toluxe0075:
We want to win the league and perhaps the champions league but it’s Havertz and Gabriel Jesus that are main strikers 😂😂😂

No wahala now. As usual, we will cope with various excuses at the end of the season.
The way I am looking at it excuses go surplus
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:46am On Sep 11
mostob:
shocked shocked
Oya na.

Injuries wan mean us this int'l break grin grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:47am On Sep 11
Shegzdave:
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Hopefully🤞

Zinny is better at that position and he’s gonna be second choice like you said instead of that LB he’s playing
Exactly...
Plus more boosted confidence
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by toluxe0075: 10:09am On Sep 11
iamoyindamola:

The way I am looking at it excuses go surplus
I just pray they turn up o including our midfielders and defenders. Our fierce rival is too ruthless for us to give room for complacency and depend on hope. Liverpool had to do 99 points to be sure the bald headed monster don’t deny them the EPL title again.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:39am On Sep 11
The doctor of the Norwegian National Team to @vgsporten about Martin Ødegaard’s injury:

- Injuries like this takes minimum 3 weeks. Everything else is bonus. And it can take longer time

- Both Ståle (the national coach) and I know that next national games (10th of October) he will be very doubtful.

- They are investigating the MR now. There is probably no breach in his foot.

- Ancle- injuries are very painful straight away. Martin had extreme pain. He was very worried #ArsenalFanaticsNews
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:44am On Sep 11
toluxe0075:

I just pray they turn up o including our midfielders and defenders. Our fierce rival is too ruthless for us to give room for complacency and depend on hope. Liverpool had to do 99 points to be sure the bald headed monster don’t deny them the EPL title again.
You don dey drop the excuse already. 😂😂😂
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:57am On Sep 11
Jodera:

Oya na.

Injuries wan mean us this int'l break grin grin
Ake sef was stretchered out yesterday.

I don't think we should have any issue regarding the match against Spurs though. Their tactic is very vulnerable due to the high line they play. We just need to have runners behind. Zinchenko wouldn't have much to do defensively so he should be able to give us something attack-wise.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by toluxe0075: 11:08am On Sep 11
mostob:
You don dey drop the excuse already. 😂😂😂
Omo!!! I hope we turn out to be the ruthless team of the season so my excuse will not stand.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:56am On Sep 11
mostob:
The doctor of the Norwegian National Team to @vgsporten about Martin Ødegaard’s injury:

- Injuries like this takes minimum 3 weeks. Everything else is bonus. And it can take longer time

- Both Ståle (the national coach) and I know that next national games (10th of October) he will be very doubtful.

- They are investigating the MR now. There is probably no breach in his foot.

- Ancle- injuries are very painful straight away. Martin had extreme pain. He was very worried #ArsenalFanaticsNews

Issorait.

We need an emergency to Odegaard absence ASAP

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:57am On Sep 11
mostob:
Ake sef was stretchered out yesterday.

I don't think we should have any issue regarding the match against Spurs though. Their tactic is very vulnerable due to the high line they play. We just need to have runners behind. Zinchenko wouldn't have much to do defensively so he should be able to give us something attack-wise.
The hope is if Zinny starts in midfield.

If he starts in defence, I'll be afraid cos their high press fit choke am
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:46pm On Sep 11
Jodera:

The hope is if Zinny starts in midfield.

If he starts in defence, I'll be afraid cos their high press fit choke am
Defence ke? When timber, Calafiori and Kiwior dey. Tomi and Tierney may soon be back sef. I don't see Zinchenko playing LB for us anytime soon.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:49pm On Sep 11
Jodera:


Issorait.

We need an emergency to Odegaard absence ASAP
We should be fine if Arteta doesn't fumble.
BTW, just read that Partey has never played 4 consecutive matches for us starting from GW1.
Don't know how true it is but man is about breaking that record.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:38pm On Sep 11
mostob:
We should be fine if Arteta doesn't fumble.
BTW, just read that Partey has never played 4 consecutive matches for us starting from GW1.
Don't know how true it is but man is about breaking that record.

It always amuses me when I see people say "If Arteta doesn't fumble". What of if the players don't fumble too?

Look at that last game for example; Areta fielded his best 11, he used the same tactics that has been winning him games and then Rice decided to fumble.

Sometimes players fumble too o.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:46pm On Sep 11
BlueRayDick:


It always amuses me when I see people say "If Arteta doesn't fumble". What of if the players don't fumble too?

Look at that last game for example; Areta fielded his best 11, he used the same tactics that has been winning him games and then Rice decided to fumble.

Sometimes players fumble too o.
Lol
Who's the coach again
If players fumble is it not the job of a coach to correct it
If students fail no be teacher they get fault
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 3:01pm On Sep 11
iamoyindamola:

Lol
Who's the coach again
If players fumble is it not the job of a coach to correct it
If students fail no be teacher they get fault

So all the students that failed while you were in the university you honestly believe it is the lecturers' fault? Those that were busy doing Yhaoo, those that were doing olosho, those that refused to read their books; all of them failed because of the lecturer right?

If you check my post you quoted again, I mentioned that there are instances when coaches do all the right thing by using the best 11 and adopting the best tactics yet some players fumble. It is similar to when a lecturer comes to class all through semester, teaches well in class and set exams based on what he taught in class; yet some students will not read and fail.

I never said coaches should not be blamed when they fumble like chnaging the winning formula for no justifiable reason or adopting a tactics that leads to a loss.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:38pm On Sep 11
mostob:
Defence ke? When timber, Calafiori and Kiwior dey. Tomi and Tierney may soon be back sef. I don't see Zinchenko playing LB for us anytime soon.
Toorrhh..
It'll be a massive waste to lay off Zinny talents in bench when he can be fully harnessed in midfield

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:41pm On Sep 11
BlueRayDick:


So all the students that failed while you were in the university you honestly believe it is the lecturers' fault? Those that were busy doing Yhaoo, those that were doing olosho, those that refused to read their books; all of them failed because of the lecturer right?

If you check my post you quoted again, I mentioned that there are instances when coaches do all the right thing by using the best 11 and adopting the best tactics yet some players fumble. It is similar to when a lecturer comes to class all through semester, teaches well in class and set exams based on what he taught in class; yet some students will not read and fail.

I never said coaches should not be blamed when they fumble like chnaging the winning formula for no justifiable reason or adopting a tactics that leads to a loss.
My point is manager should be able to correct players mistake
He's getting paid to do that not excuses that saka miss a sitter
Kai do this and that
We suppose dan pass that level, as rice collect red his job is for him to let us see through the game which he did good job
If someone says I hope arteta doesn't fumble he also right because he has done that in the past
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:43pm On Sep 11
mostob:
We should be fine if Arteta doesn't fumble.
BTW, just read that Partey has never played 4 consecutive matches for us starting from GW1.
Don't know how true it is but man is about breaking that record.

Yeah, Partey hasn't started 4 straight matches from Gw1 for us. I saw the stats late last week too and I confirmed it to be true.

I just hope we win Tottenham Sha but we also have a big week ahead of us.

Odegaard injury really cameth at the wrongest time embarassed

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 3:46pm On Sep 11
iamoyindamola:

My point is manager should be able to correct players mistake
He's getting paid to do that not excuses that saka miss a sitter
Kai do this and that
We suppose dan pass that level, as rice collect red his job is for him to let us see through the game which he did good job
If someone says I hope arteta doesn't fumble he also right because he has done that in the past

The problem here is that you are reading my post with a preconceived agenda.

Just look at this ur post now , look at the bolded part I highlight; You have just ended up making my point for me. Arteta did not do anything wrong in the match, it was Rice that made an error that turned a winnable match into a draw. Rice fumbled and Arteta did good like you admitted. I never said a coach is not paid to deliver on his job.

So why did you have an issue with my initial post ? Like you literally ended up making the same point I made earlier.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:51pm On Sep 11
BlueRayDick:


The problem here is that you are reading my post with a preconceived agenda.

Just look at this ur post now , look at the bolded part I highlight; You have just ended up making my point for me. Arteta did not do anything wrong in the match, it was Rice that made an error that turned a winnable match into a draw. Rice fumbled and Arteta did good like you admitted.

So why did you have an issue with my initial post ? Like you literally ended up making the same point I made earlier.

Rice fumbled and it's part of the game to get red card
Arteta also fumbled by not cautioning rice and partey in half time talk or even removing one of them
Everyone knows if your DMs are on yellow the rate of tackles will reduce

But everything is agenda because arteta is involved 😁

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