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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Jamieabi: 2:11pm On Sep 12 |
Is it abuja or Lagos ? seyewest: |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by seyewest(m): 2:20pm On Sep 12 |
Cashmadam: Thank you I will do just that. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by seyewest(m): 2:20pm On Sep 12 |
Jamieabi:Abuja |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by sanyaolurilwan(m): 3:35pm On Sep 12 |
Hello Bosses in the House, Please how are you getting free biometrics appointment in Ikeja, Lagos now? Each time i see a free time, the checkout option isn't coming up. Please help a poor man... |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by seyewest(m): 3:53pm On Sep 12 |
sanyaolurilwan:I'm facing the same issue. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 4:31pm On Sep 12 |
Jamie1000:Yellow card is needed with egypt airlines… After the situation my sister faced at abuja airport a few months ago.. it’s like they are in agreement and are sharing the dividends. No need to wait at the airport, go to the hotel provided. You will see others like you. 2 Likes |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Jannyfranc: 4:35pm On Sep 12 |
Check around 11 or 12 am , then click self service. sanyaolurilwan: |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by sanyaolurilwan(m): 4:45pm On Sep 12 |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Kenelekan: 5:05pm On Sep 12 |
I thought they said all applications are considered based on their individual merits…… meaning it’s not connected with circumstance of last applications LadyCaplin: |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Cashmadam: 5:13pm On Sep 12 |
Kenelekan: That is the official statement. However, trust me. The circumstances of previous applications affect new applications. They will never admit that in writing but that is a fact. 6 Likes |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 8:22pm On Sep 12 |
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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Jamie1000: 8:38pm On Sep 12 |
giselle237:Thanks. Please, how can I get the yellow card in Abuja? |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by naivasha: 9:02pm On Sep 12 |
Jamie1000: You should be able to get it at the international airport. Ask for the Port Health office. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 9:22pm On Sep 12 |
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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 9:24pm On Sep 12 |
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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 9:26pm On Sep 12 |
Hello Madam... And every other helpful people In the house. Special greetings. I don't know why nairaland isn't allowing me post screenshot ( Not sure if you Remember me, That was worried about my debits and credits that was not consistent In my account and you advice to use 6 months arrange it. Well, I tried as much as possible to give reasons for the accounts looking overdrawn every month and every other reason I could pull up to ensure that I meet all the requirements. And then, I used strong head, tossed a coin and hoped it lands on head. Today, I got a rejection email. This was their reason (I can't attach screenshot I will type it out) You state that you are employed, earning 1350000.00 NGN (£632.87) each month after tax and have 1800000.00 NGN (£843.83) in investments. You also have £563.00 in savings. I acknowledge the information you have provided in support of your application. You state that you spend 400000.00 NGN (£187.52) on monthly living cost. You state that you will personally spend 4000000.00 NGN (£1875.20) on your trip to the UK and that no one else will be paying toward your visit. However, I note that your proposed expenditure is more than your monthly disposable income. This degree of expenditure appears disproportionate to your economic circumstances, leading me to doubt your intentions in seeking to visit the UK for the limited period and purpose stated. Other than your employment, I am mindful that you have not demonstrated any other considerable ties to your country of residence, which would serve as an incentive for you to leave the UK at the end of your proposed visit. This not only undermines the credibility of your application as a whole but causes me to doubt your intention in proposing to travel to the UK. Given the above, I am therefore not satisfied etc etc etc ... End In their 1st reason for rejection; Reason 1; Are they expecting I'd use the 1.35m average I earn monthly to pay a return ticket and other expenses i would incur in UK? 1.35m is too small to spend on the trip... Hence why their reason isn't making much sense to me, perhaps you have a better understanding of what I did wrong and how I can fix this? Ideally i would have thought since I've been earning this much, since the beginning of the year, I should have enough balance to cater for the expenses. But using that 1.35m to judge it is were I'm confused. So if I drop down my expenditures for the trip to the 1.35m or less, self sponsored, won't it look like I'm joking to them? Because it's peanuts and return ticket alone will swallow it much less other expenses. Although I communicated clearly id be staying at my partner's residence so accommodation was settled. Reason 2; They said my employment isn't a strong tie back home. My people. I'm a founding director in this company (since 2021 inception), and I head the company with my brother, I've been receiving salary through out the year from the company. Considering this factors and their reasons for rejection as stated, Please what would you suggest I should do differently if I decide to reapply? Would you recommend I reapply ? Lastly one of my major fears before applying was that my withdrawals and deposits in my account monthly are equal (so I tried to explain clearly the reason why), I'm surprised it wasn't flagged. Maybe the explanation and supporting documentation helped? I can't say. If I choose to reapply would that also raise concern so I need to rexplain again? Sorry for the lengthy post! Thank you all CC: Cashmadam, giselle237 and everyone! Thank you! |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Cashmadam: 9:33pm On Sep 12 |
[quote author=Obidikejr post=131975929][/quote] Sorry about the refusal. My thoughts: 1. Your monthly salary is okay. That does not appear to be the issue 2. Your monthly expenses are high. You didn't indicate your marital status. If you are single, it is high. 3. Your investment of N1.8million is low - considering your monthly salary. Why is it so low? Same thing with your savings... 4. You did not prove your ties to Nigeria. Do you have parents you care for? Are you active in any Church. Mosque? You need to emphasise your ties to Nigeria 5. If you have accomodation, you need about 3M - 4M for a trip to the UK. Do the maths 6. I suggest you address the issues before you reapply. Hope this helps. 1 Like |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 9:42pm On Sep 12 |
Obidikejr:1. They were inclined to deny your application because the statements you made regarding your finances raised suspicions. 2. The UK authorities do not regard your proposal to spend 4 million naira on a holiday as credible, which has led to increased skepticism about your situation. 3. Your age and the financial figures you provided have further contributed to their doubts. Moreover, having a company that has been in operation for only three years does not sufficiently demonstrate that you have strong ties to your home country. It is possible for someone in your position to travel to the UK and not return. 4 If you have been earning 1.3 million naira monthly for the past three years, it would be expected that you possess more substantial assets, properties, and investments to serve as evidence of your intent to return. 5. The 1.8 million naira in investments and 500 pounds in savings appear inadequate given the status you described. 6. Furthermore, it seems you lack a travel history, which raises additional questions. If you have significant financial resources, it is puzzling that you have not visited other countries, especially when you want them to believe you have the means to do so. 7. All of these factors cast doubt on your credibility and intentions, which likely contributed to the denial of your application. 8. I understand this may be disappointing, but I previously advised you to wait on this particular application to avoid a refusal. In the future, considering that the 4 million naira is a substantial amount, I recommend exploring other tourist destinations to begin building a travel history. As a single individual, it is important to establish a stronger case for your return to Nigeria, as the authorities may not fully accept the job status you portrayed as a guarantee. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 10:18pm On Sep 12 |
Cashmadam: 2. Yes I am not married. But I send upkeep money for my baby daughter, averagely 150k every month. 3. This I understand. I still have money hanging somewhere else that didn't come before I made my application. My savings should have been 2x that. 4. My both parents are still alive and kicking, not sure what you meant by cared for. But I send my dad money every month from Same acct. My brother does same for my mom. I'm just a church goer, Not deeper than that. This part of ties is confusing. Should I register for a church group ? I just bought a plot of land and intend to buy more. Would that help, I've overheard it before. 5. I've done the maths ooo. That's why I put 4m. As earlier mentioned, I was thinking they'd take my balance into consideration rather than strictly "what I earn monthly". My Total balance was 6m. Maybe on reapplication id shorten the length of my stay to 1 week. So the cost reduces. In summary, what I can deduce from your response Best I can do about the financial part is; I'm going to totally stop any inconsistency with my account (due to side hustles) and solely focus on work income and strict withdrawals that reflect declared expenses in that account. While doing other expenses on my other bank accts. Perhaps I'd declare monthly expenses of 200k next time and monthly earning of +1.5m and total expense for the trip as 3m for a 1 week stay. This should be better? But this would generally mean me waiting to reapply months down the line right? Would 3-4 months statement of account suffice for reapplication or I have to provide 6 months ? Many thanks. Really appreciated |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by crackcrack: 10:48pm On Sep 12 |
Sorry about the refusal. From this response, I think I can see some of the issues with your application. You quoted a monthly income of ₦1,350,000, but you submitted a bank statement with only ₦6,000,000 in it. Even with your declared investment (₦1,800,000) and savings (£563, which is approximately ₦1,200,000), this brings the total amount of money you have available to approximately ₦9,000,000. But your budget for the trip is 4 million naira, which is almost half of your entire life savings and investment. This can be a big red flag to some ECOs. I believe the main issue with your application is your current finances do not seem commensurate with the level of income you declared. Earning ₦1,350,000 monthly but having only ₦9,000,000 available implies that you already have a high level of expenditure, which is what I think the ECO was getting at. With all that said, I believe you can work to reduce the amount you intend to spend on the trip. Since you have accommodation sorted, try to limit your total spend to 3 million, at the maximum. Flight alone will be half of that, but if you are only going for a week, the balance should be enough for feeding, transportation, etc. Better still, you could wait till you have more money saved up. At your income level, it shouldn't take too long to have something like 12 million plus in the bank. That, alongside a clean account and a reduced budget, will give you a much better chance at getting the visa. Obidikejr: |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 11:01pm On Sep 12 |
giselle237: Thank you for your prompt response Referencing the numbers as you answered; 2. Would dropping the duration of my visit, simulatenously reducing the total cost be a better way to fix this? For Example I reduce it to 1 week stay and expenditure of 3m for the trip? As against the 20 days stay I applied for. 3. I don't understand the age part. Could you provide clarity? 4. Now this part is tricky. What would you suggest I do.? Is 1.3m a considerbly big sum? I mean to live on comfortably In satellite towns in major cities perhaps yes but So much To have investments,assets, properties ?... In Abuja o. Also I didn't start earning 1.3 off the start. The company didn't secure a deal until last year (2023), before then I and my co-founder were surviving from other hustles. So let's just say it's been 1 year. So there's more to that I can't say here however But that's aside.. What would you suggest I do to fix the ties part though, moving forward putting next 4 - 6 months in consideration. I'd appreciate if you have any 5. I can understand this, given some of funds were hanging in one side hustle that didn't come in before I did my application. Savings should have been 2x that at least. 6. Although not sure the UKVI decision office understand how weak our currency has become... Would you consider this a wise choice financially ? Unless maybe other African countries... Would other African countries suffice? 1.3m now wasn't same a few years ago I could have chest it and covered 2 countries on a budget 1.3m is $800 unfortunately... If I have to build a travel history to countries atleast respectable ones that will reflect on my passport. I may use full 2 months salary just to achieve 1 location Lastly I have travelled to the US and South Africa, however it was more than 10 years ago while I was younger. Not sure it holds any significance at this point. Although I still attached the visas pages during my application. Genuinely I just wanted to go spend my birthday this month, 20th with my partner (unmarried yet) and our daughter who are both British citizens. Pls reference 2 & 4 above, what would you suggest? Many thanks, I appreciate your time. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by maestro03: 11:02pm On Sep 12 |
crackcrack: N6million ke? Where did you see that? |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 11:03pm On Sep 12 |
crackcrack: Thanks for your thoughtful response. I appreciate you all. Putting all your suggestions into consideration and subsequently action. Thank you!. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by nlenq: 12:36am On Sep 13 |
pansophist: Thank you very much, I really appreciate. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 4:47am On Sep 13 |
@obidikejnr na now you come. Your partner and your daughter are both British citizens.. ah. That is also one of the hidden battles you have to fight otherwise you would keep applying for tourist visa and it would be one thing or the other + refusal. My advice try Schenghen countries for now to demonstrate your ability to respect immigration controls by travelling and returning. Your partner and child can go there as well. You need to restrategize. This your reapplication timing of going back now will haunt you. 1 Like |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 8:55am On Sep 13 |
giselle237: Say Hidden battles Wetn men go do naw... Truth is I wouldn't want to spend money travelling elsewhere, being very very tight with my spending. Baba this country tough. The money evaporates with a snap of a finger and it takes 10x the effort of spending it to making it back. No jokes! My partner had earlier suggested we go elsewhere for the whole birthday thing earlier, she sef UK done tire am. But I thought it's more sensible to spend the money travelling to the UK directly and strengthening my link to where my young family are both citizens. Spending that 3-4m "elsewhere" didn't seem wise, weighing the future opportunity cost. Also taking that route (considering this rejection) will make my UK reapplication time even more longer cause I have to make the money back and more to straighten my financial documentation. I hope you get where am coming from. But nonetheless, do you think I should apply for a "Schengen visa" to execute your suggestion? Or target just one of the Schengen countries and just apply for their country visa. Thank you. |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Cashmadam: 9:48am On Sep 13 |
Obidikejr: It will be difficult for you to get a UK visa. The simple truth is that you are a flight risk and the visa officer knows that. Your partner and child are UK citizens. In their opinion, once you enter UK, you will not want to leave. The best thing is for your partner to start the process of applying for you to enter UK as a partner - not on a visitor visa. Getting a UK visitor visa will be extremely difficult in your circumstances. 2 Likes |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by Obidikejr(m): 11:27am On Sep 13 |
Cashmadam: This partner visa was in the conversation earlier but to be considered in the future, we decided to try this first since really, I just needed a short visit. Also Given that, I'm not ready to pack my bags and bid Nigeria farewell just yet via the partner or parent visa route. These options are more permanent right ? Last I checked... It's not like I can just go for a month and come back to Nigeria on that visa? I would have to research more on this... |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by dimeji248(m): 12:53pm On Sep 13 |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 1:36pm On Sep 13 |
Obidikejr:Strengthening your link with your family would be via spouse visa or private life not tourist visa. In the meantime for the birthday, you 3 can meet in other countries in Africa or the other parts of Europe or Asia or even Nigeria to be honest. 1 Like |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by giselle237: 1:37pm On Sep 13 |
dimeji248:No if your circumstances have not greatly changed. Avoid packing refusals on your immigration history. It shows desperation which they hate. 1 Like |
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 5 by miller133(m): 1:49pm On Sep 13 |
Good day Everyone Please I was invited for interview at Vac in ikeja , after I received empty nsf, it’s a skilled worker visa for construction, I would like know the kind of questions they would ask, thank you in advance |
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