jaephoenix:

But Yahweh hardened Pharoah's heart thereby subverting freewill, so why can't he subvert freewill again?

I just responded to your co-traveller who just like you quoted what Job wrote about God out of ignorance. You don't understand the Bible (well, I shouldn't blame you because many who say they are Christians don't understand either). Your misunderstanding of the Bible and lack of knowledge of God that you assume you know is what informs your questions. Unfortunately, your question is not to seek knowledge and such would only best be responded to as Jesus did the Pharisees.

Why did Jesus rebuke his disciples when they wanted to call down fire to consume those that won't let them pass through their village citing the example of Elijah?

richmond500:
They envy you, yet u are the ones crossing libya to live with them while they know little about you..

Lolz, did you also read that in the bible? Cos that is where bullshits comes from

Is it not foolish poor God rejectiing and God forsaken people like you doing it?

So stop lamenting and make your life good for yourself like the desert crossers.

StillDtruth:


Please ask the people in this thread why they blame the shooter and not the rifle https://www.nairaland.com/7890042/us-mass-shooting-lewiston-maine#126618825

Ok what u are saying makes no sense.
God who gives us free will has killed people and is still threatening us on how he will torture us, Satan who doesn't give free will didn't kill anyone and has given us free will to either chose him, God or remain neutral.

Ur God is a terrorist who mankind should be scared of.

StillDtruth:


Is it not foolish porr God rejectiing and God forsaken people like you doing it?

So stop lamenting and make your life good for yourself like the desert crossers.

Guy rest. God is a terrorist.
Goodbye, I need to go back to work, my break is over.
We go continue for evening.

richmond500:
I don't know who kalish is, my question is, did Satan kill anyone No he didn't.
Did God kill anyone? Yes he destroyed countless people

You mean you.do not know Kalishnikov? Google him.

Then go to thread and ask people why they do not blame him, then you.can use it to answer the question you ask.

richmond500:
Ok what u are saying makes no sense.
God who gives us free will has killed people and is still threatening us on how he will torture us, Satan who doesn't give free will didn't kill anyone and has given us free will to either chose him, God or remain neutral.

Ur God is a terrorist who mankind should be scared of.

Now you have moved post to God is threatening you and free will.

Then you.should not blame bandits and kidnappers and Tinubu for exercising their freewill to kill you.

It is only commonsensical that your mannequin should be very much afraid of you but clearly a foolish mannequin will not and he will find what he is looking for.

richmond500:
Guy rest. God is a terrorist.
Goodbye, I need to go back to work, my break is over.
We go continue for evening.

I was at rest and enjoying myself because of the great goodnesses i.have already received from God and will always receive but it is you lamenenting your miserable living disturbing the peace and cursing God for your bad living.

It is already clear you are evil.and very ungrateful and God is Good and has been good even to you but since you are an evil ungrateful person, God has kicked you off and now you are here lamenting because of your many many failures.

So make a way for yourself and give yourself the good living you are looking for after all.you have power.

jaephoenix:

Who created the garden of Eden? Who created the fruit of knowledge? Is Yahweh omniscient?
Answer these questions

The Bible is full of parables and figures of speech. Many like you who assume you understand it would confuse yourself. Even Jesus loved to teach in parables when he's in the mist of people like you and would only call his disciples aside and explain to them.

It's not for everyone to understand. Only those who are genuinely interested will be patient enough to learn.

Mark 4:34
He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.

2 Peter 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

jaephoenix:

And you guys post about atheists that don't believe in your god. Why don't you ignore?
Btw, atheists talk religion cos religion affects us. They want to control how we live, work etc. Thus we have to speak up

Whoever feels he should detect to Atheists how they should live or work does not know what he's doing.

The only interest I have is to let people (those who are interested) know God and believe in him. Those who do will on their own (without compulsion) want to be like Christ.

Wainey:
point4 God is actually the villain while Satan gives free will. In as much as this may sound disturbing, it's the truth. You can chose to believe in Satan or insult and ridicule him, but most christians will be scared to talk about God cause of fear of getting killed by the ever merciful, ever loving father. Alot of christians knows that there is something wrong with the bible but are too scared to point it out

point5 God/satan is a made-up character in the biblical mythology by our slave masters just to keep us in check and avoid any form of protest while they continue to abduct us, ruthlessly torture us and carry our resources. Cos if you read lev 25:44-46, "you will see how God said you could buy slaves and make them your property for life and can even pass them down to ur children as inheritance" That is not a very palatable thing to swallow for me, maybe only christians will love to have slaves or become slaves cos their God told them to.

point6 The story of Pharaoh, God purposely hardened this man heart so he can torture him, kill innocent first borns, bring plagues on the land of Egypt and finally destroy them. The question is "why will he chose to harden this man's heart? It shows there is a little sympathy within pharaoh but.
That why I think the biblical story is all bullshit cos if God was real, then we are in a bigger problem, both those that will be tortured for eternity and those that will be living with such a cruel being.

but do you believe all this bible Stories?

StillDtruth:


You mean countries whose people live on credit and envy us who spend huge cash becase we have earned? Please japa abeg.

I know logic swirls over your head.
What do you mean 'live on credit'?
Do you know how much their minimum wage is? Do you know how much some make per day? Have you compared their quality of life to ours?
So what if they buy phones or cars on credit? Don't we have people here that do so?
Are you this deluded?

StillDtruth:


I only simply stated the kind of persons who asks these kind of questions. Every reasonable person already knows that Satan is the cause of the death of Mr.and Mrs Adam.

Ok then. Have a good day

richmond500:
They envy you, yet u are the ones crossing libya to live with them while they know little about you..

Lolz, did you also read that in the bible? Cos that is where bullshits comes from

The guy schizophrenia wouldn't allow him reason properly.
People that envy him but cannot run to Nigeria, instead its Nigerians running and risking their lives, paying heavily, to go over there.
His delusions are getting worse

safarifarms:

Like I said earlier, many don't understand the Bible and that's why there's so many misinterpretations that gives you guys so much excitement to make mockeries. After Job wrote so many things about God and what was happening to him, in the last chapter he confessed that he wrote about God in ignorance and that he had written about God based on rumours. Yet many "Christians" will quote the wrong things that Job wrote and regretted. It's the same thing that is making you so excited. You don't know God but you assume you do based on rumours just like Job.

Can you show us that verse he said so?

JovialJune:


Yes it's a problem for us because you don't belong here, true atheists don't go about brandishing people's religion negatively since our way of life doesn't affect your existence, instead you all are suppose to go about your lives the way you see fit and stop seeking attention and validation from religious people, very simple.

are you tired of ranting your frustrations on the men hating threads?
You seem jobless

richmond500:
I don't know who kalish is, my question is, did Satan kill anyone No he didn't.
Did God kill anyone? Yes he destroyed countless people

I've given up on the guy

safarifarms:

The Bible is full of parables and figures of speech. Many like you who assume you understand it would confuse yourself. Even Jesus loved to teach in parables when he's in the mist of people like you and would only call his disciples aside and explain to them.

It's not for everyone to understand. Only those who are genuinely interested will be patient enough to learn.

Mark 4:34
He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.

2 Peter 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Who created the garden of Eden? Who created the fruit of knowledge? Is Yahweh omniscient?
Answer these questions
Please answer the above questions.
Try and be honest

Kingsempires:
but do you believe all this bible Stories?

He just told you he doesn't. Duh

MrLibrarian:
are you tired of ranting your frustrations on the men hating threads?
You seem jobless

Cry, I will still not reply your mail.

jaephoenix:

Do you know religion affects every sphere of live on this planet? Christians trying to change laws in countries like the US etc, Muslims murdering anyone that goes contrary to their lslam. What do you think atheists should do? Keep quiet?

What stops you from attacking them based on what they did, go to politics section and attack these countries, their policies and politicians not here, does this thread look like all you stated is what Op intended? Why attack the Bible and tell us why he left Christianity?

For the Christian countries, can you tell us the policies they intend to change that directly affect your way of life to your detriment? Because we don't go about killing people in the name of Jesus etc., so what exactly is it about Christian countries that affects you negatively?

jaephoenix:

Can you show us that verse he said so?

Lol. It's the last chapter of Job, after saying so many things ignorantly about God.

Job 42: 1-6
“I’m convinced: You can do anything and everything.
Nothing and no one can upset your plans.
You asked, ‘Who is this muddying the water,
ignorantly confusing the issue, second-guessing my purposes?’
I admit it. I was the one. I babbled on about things far beyond me,
made small talk about wonders way over my head.
You told me, ‘Listen, and let me do the talking.
Let me ask the questions. You give the answers.’
I admit I once lived by rumors of you;
now I have it all firsthand—from my own eyes and ears!
I’m sorry—forgive me. I’ll never do that again, I promise!
I’ll never again live on crusts of hearsay, crumbs of rumor.”

After reading that, I'm sure it won't stop you from still using Job's ignorance to accuse God.

JovialJune:



Cry, I will still not reply your mail.

most of you ladies nowadays it's pride and ego that's your bane and that's why most of you fall out of luck and favour with your benefactors.
Do you know the context of the conversation I wanted bringing up with you that probably would have been beneficial you and your career?
Or you think I'm just like other randy guys that sent a mail just for amorous or lewd reasons?
You need to change your mentality.

jaephoenix:

He just told you he doesn't. Duh

okoook so you guys have na welcome him to the atheist world

MrLibrarian:
most of you ladies nowadays it's pride and ego that's your bane and that's why most of you fall out of luck and favour with your benefactors.
Do you know the context of the conversation I wanted bringing up with you that probably would have been beneficial you and your career?
Or you think I'm just like other randy guys that sent a mail just for amorous or lewd reasons?
You need to change your mentality.

Oh so you can type civily? You never start, better go back to your insultive ways and keep trolling, because I will never need your help, not now, not in the nearest future,

Why will I ever need the help of a total stranger on a faceless forum that follows mostly females, then troll them when they ignore you? Isn't that mental illness? You are obviously not loved at home, seek help.

jaephoenix:


Who created the garden of Eden? Who created the fruit of knowledge? Is Yahweh omniscient?
Answer these questions
Please answer the above questions.
Try and be honest

No matter how many time you are told the truth, you will still ask this same question a thousand times. I think it's the question given to you Atheist to ask about things that are beyond your ability to understand.

I've already told you it's beyond you to understand what the Garden of Eden is all about.

The Bible is full of mysteries, parables, figures of speech. But people like you will ignorantly read it all as pure literal history and miss the mark.

Psalm 78:2-3
2. I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
3 Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us.

I'd also already told you that Jesus only taught in Parables because of the presence of people like you and only explained his parable to his disciples. No matter the attempt, it is not given unto you to understand it.

Matthew 13:
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

In my previous response I'd also mentioned how Peter described how Paul's teachings were hard to understand and those who don't understand it wrestle with it to their destruction.

Now I'm done. Repeat the same question again.

JovialJune:



Oh so you can type civily? You never start, better go back to your insultive ways and keep trolling, because I will never need your help, not now, not in the nearest future,

Why will I ever need the help of a total stranger on a faceless forum that follows mostly females, then troll them when they ignore you? Isn't that mental illness? You are obviously not loved at home, seek help.

. . . . .

safarifarms:


No matter how many time you are told the truth, you will still ask this same question a thousand times. I think it's the question given to you Atheist to ask about things that are beyond your ability to understand.

I've already told you it's beyond you to understand what the Garden of Eden is all about.

The Bible is full of mysteries, parables, figures of speech. But people like you will ignorantly read it all as pure literal history and miss the mark.

Psalm 78:2-3
2. I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
3 Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us.

I'd also already told you that Jesus only taught in Parables because of the presence of people like you and only explained his parable to his disciples. No matter the attempt, it is not given unto you to understand it.

Matthew 13:
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

In my previous response I'd also mentioned how Peter described how Paul's teachings were hard to understand and those who don't understand it wrestle with it to their destruction.

Now I'm done. Repeat the same question again.

Going through your tripe, I still don't understand your point. So are you saying the story of genesis is a parable? Please look at the questions again
Who created the garden of Eden? Who created the fruit of knowledge? Is Yahweh omniscient?

JovialJune:



What stops you from attacking them based on what they did, go to politics section and attack these countries, their policies and politicians not here, does this thread look like all you stated is what Op intended? Why attack the Bible and tell us why he left Christianity?

For the Christian countries, can you tell us the policies they intend to change that directly affect your way of life to your detriment? Because we don't go about killing people in the name of Jesus etc., so what exactly is it about Christian countries that affects you negatively?

1.Yes, christian terrorists exist that kill people in the name id jesus
2. You are telling atheists to go to politics section to talk about religious matter? Really?
3. Policies like abortion etc are what christians are trying to stop

jaephoenix:

1.Yes, christian terrorists exist that kill people in the name id jesus
2. You are telling atheists to go to politics section to talk about religious matter? Really?
3. Policies like abortion etc are what christians are trying to stop

please call the names of the number 1 you wrote

safarifarms:


Lol. It's the last chapter of Job, after saying so many things ignorantly about God.

Job 42: 1-6
“I’m convinced: You can do anything and everything.
Nothing and no one can upset your plans.
You asked, ‘Who is this muddying the water,
ignorantly confusing the issue, second-guessing my purposes?’
I admit it. I was the one. I babbled on about things far beyond me,
made small talk about wonders way over my head.
You told me, ‘Listen, and let me do the talking.
Let me ask the questions. You give the answers.’
I admit I once lived by rumors of you;
now I have it all firsthand—from my own eyes and ears!
I’m sorry—forgive me. I’ll never do that again, I promise!
I’ll never again live on crusts of hearsay, crumbs of rumor.”

After reading that, I'm sure it won't stop you from still using Job's ignorance to accuse God.

Dear me!
Bro Job did not write the passage in Job 1:6. In fact, no one knows who wrote the book of Job. Some theologians think its Moses. Besides, there is no how Job would know what is going on in the heavens to know who and who hangs out with Yahweh. Even if he does write it, then the revelation was made by Yahweh himself to Job(that is assuming it was Job that wrote that passage)
These christians no dey think at all

Kingsempires:
please call the names of the number 1 you wrote

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nathaniel-veltman-muslim-family-canada-b1862845.html%3famp

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10576100701611288

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/16/wieambilla-shootings-australia-christian-terrorist-attack-queensland-police

https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

They are up to 6 christian terrorist groups as at last check

jaephoenix:

Going through your tripe, I still don't understand your point. So are you saying the story of genesis is a parable? Please look at the questions again
Who created the garden of Eden? Who created the fruit of knowledge? Is Yahweh omniscient?

Rest. It's beyond you. The Bible was written like that because of People like you.
Your believe that God does not exist is sufficient for you for now.
When you are ready to learn the mysteries of the Bible, it will be explained to you.

Do you know who wrote Genesis where the account of the Garden of Eden is?