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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by TRS2020: 10:49pm On Sep 14
Hello

Please can I use electronically generated bank statement without (official bank stamp) to apply for visit visa for grandma?

Thanks.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 6:10am On Sep 15
TRS2020:
Hello

Please can I use electronically generated bank statement without (official bank stamp) to apply for visit visa for grandma?

Thanks.

Sure you can
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lefty500: 12:22pm On Sep 15
Jamesclooney:


💯 agree.
It was all this scare mongering that made me overthink the test with my many years of driving in Nigeria.
The UK driving test is so basic, it’s beggar’s belief the hype around it (maybe if you’re new driver without prior experience in moving a car). I did mine just once (manual test with only one minor).

With the plethora of information online in 2024 (YouTube & TikTok especially), plus 3 sessions with driving instructor and endless practice on my own (one intl driving licence), there’s really no excuse to throw away money more than two times (maximum).

I don't want to say we like spreading fear, but again, I don't know want to call it.
I did my theory test 3 times and practical test 2 times.

The 2 times I did the theory test I approached it with fear(as everyone dey shout it is hard) and ignorance becuase I was cramming the questions and I mostly failed due to hazard perception, until I watched one woman on Tiktok. She explained everything about the theory test, she explained the logic or lesson behind every questions, and once you understand the logic, then you can answer any question. I wrote the exam again and passed.
So I continue to apply those lessons to my driving.

I failed my first practical driving because I overtook another car, and I did 47 or 48mph, so I have gone beyond the speed limit for a learn and that's a massive mistake, automatically it's a failure, though the examiner allowed me to continue the driving, and pointed out my other mistake of not moving off savely. When the result came in, I looked at it, went to DVLA website to see what everything mean, and the max point I could have to pass the exam. Practice everything, and I passed the second time with 6 points error.

UK is about information, but you have to be sure you have the right one, and also make your own research, because many people just walk around with "wonni wonpe" (hearsay).

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 12:40pm On Sep 15
Hkana:


Congratulations. Your post has given me a bit of hope. I'm currently learning to drive using a manual and I'm almost at my wits end. Lol.

Was yours a manual test?

Pele, manual is a bit more complicated (clutch down, brake first, biting point etc. stressful). I learnt with manual when I learnt to drive ages ago, so already had the fundamentals. My wife took the automatic test and life was a lot easier. Except you need a manual licence for work purposes or need access to cheaper manual 2nd hand cars in general, my advise is for new learners to chose automatic. Besides, the future is automatic (manual cars are going to be phased out in a couple of decades)
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AgentXxx(m): 4:23pm On Sep 15
Thanks bro but sorry to disappoint you, it wasn’t manual o as I do not see any reason to stress myself to learn manual when i stopped driving manual about 7years ago. Good luck to you 🤞🏾
Hkana:


Congratulations. Your post has given me a bit of hope. I'm currently learning to drive using a manual and I'm almost at my wits end. Lol.

Was yours a manual test?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:46pm On Sep 15
Treadway:
lol OK. [

[s]pressed to answer when she was asked her stance on permitting 3rd trimester abortions, cos she knows Roe v Wade allows up to even the period of dilation sef, as per legally. community'

This screenshot explains Roe v wade in a nutshell. You are either mistaken or deliberately misleading people. I think the former

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:52pm On Sep 15
There are quite a few very politically switched on people on here. There will be a heck of a lot to discuss in the next few months.
Shall we take ourselves off to a new UK/US politics thread? Where we can natter to our hearts content?

This thread is probably best suited to credit card, drivers license issues and the likes...
It's just a thought...what do you think?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 8:31pm On Sep 15
missjekyll:


This screenshot explains Roe v wade in a nutshell. You are either mistaken or deliberately misleading people. I think the former
you're absolutely right!


My mistake.

In the heat of the moment, I wrongly conflated that detail of Roe V Wade (which on the whole established a woman's right to have an abortion without undue restrictive interference from the government) with what's obtainable in Minnesota for example.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NurseGrace: 3:37am On Sep 16
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 8:03am On Sep 16
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).

Congratulations on your job offers. Well done on having multiple options!
I really like this kind of analysis/debate. Let’s break it down:

*SCENARIO 1* - oil company job (5m monthly / 60m per annum)
Nurse - great salary for you & your family. Although the economic woes in Nigeria (hyperinflation) will eat into it and reduce the comfort this could have afforded you a few years ago, it is still decent (especially if you’re in a low cost city, not Lagos or Abuja). You can look forward to a long and fulfilling career in the clinic/hospital and rise to Chief Matron/Chief Nursing Staff

Husband - he can continue in his civil service job, no disruption and continue to strive to great heights in his career

Children - provides stability in the short term. They can continue their education in Nigeria, and perhaps study abroad at university age?


*SCENARIO 2* - relocation as NHS nurse Band 5? (Salary of £30k pa)

Nurse - starting afresh in a new country. Work for 5yrs to attain ILR/citizenship etc. Career growth not as easy as the oil company (no racism). Starting salary not great (especially if in London/South East England). Some nurses stay for a few years and migrate again to USA (more money).

Husband - major disruption for him. Needs to find a new job in the UK. Not sure of his line of work, if it’s easy to secure a job with his experience. Worst case, he will have to work menial jobs to augment family income while upgrading his skills to land professional job.

Children - coming into a new country. Free education at primary/secondary level. Can attend uni as a home student after attaining citizenship after 5/6yrs on sponsored visa.

Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would deeply reflect on my family’s long-term goals, and the kind of life I envision for my children. Most people want a decent life (security, good infrastructure, jobs opportunities, education for kids etc.), while some others swear that they cannot live outside of Naija because of our jovial and family oriented lifestyle (plus weather considerations). I’m in the camp of the former! I need a sane environment to function and I need a bit of predictability to plan my life, hence Scenario 2 for me.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AllLovingGod: 8:05am On Sep 16
I'm not in the UK currently, but I would gladly take the Nigerian job, do it for say,5 years while saving madly in dollars. And after that, I will find a better country and migrate with my family. If It's America, I would choose it over the Nigerian job though. My two cents.
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).
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NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:19am On Sep 16
Treadway:
i dont care about their stance really. I think her ginger on top lgbtq just shows how grossly misplaced her priorities are. ...

Same here. I don't worry much about local U.S laws. You're obviously not happy about her stance which is very often connected with wider views.
As for the one who wants to make America great, he's had 4 yrs already and no greatness came forth. Let Kamela mix her own version of greatness. No need going back. Anyway, if he is unsuccessful, hope we would not still be discussing MAGA in 2028.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:48am On Sep 16
Goodenoch:


I always do this, especially on Telegraph, Spectator, Daily Mail etc.

One of the effects of the riots on me was thoroughly disabusing me of the ideas of how most people here are, that I had formed based on my interactions that have mostly been with urbane, highly-educated/qualified people.

The riots themselves and all the roundabout justifications in the aftermath made me realize that the far-right are actually far and wide, although they're most active when they can be anonymous or in mobs.

Reading those comments now keeps me grounded and in full conciousness of the fact that a large proportion of the population actually holds those kinds of views, even when evidence is freely available to disprove their assumptions. They will happily read the headlines and first paragraphs and go off spreading fake news to strenghten their racist and anti-immigrant arguments even when the reality is just a few paragraphs down - which, BTW, is exactly what the publication wrote the article that way to achieve.

Spot on. Had to quote it all
I don't delve so much into the comments to protect my mental health as I already know whats there and the ignorance can be annoying. Most UK media is self-reinforcing and over time has their target audience. I manytimes comment on reddit though.

Having witnessed such riots growing up, fact is the few who go out to cause chaos do such do so in the belief that they have some backing from the majority. It's that silent support and roundabout justifications (as you put it) that's more destructive. It's what MLK referred to as the ultimate tragedy.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NurseGrace: 9:20am On Sep 16
Congratulations on your job offers. Well done on having multiple options!
I really like this kind of analysis/debate. Let’s break it down:

*SCENARIO 1* - oil company job (5m monthly / 60m per annum)
Nurse - great salary for you & your family. Although the economic woes in Nigeria (hyperinflation) will eat into it and reduce the comfort this could have afforded you a few years ago, it is still decent (especially if you’re in a low cost city, not Lagos or Abuja). You can look forward to a long and fulfilling career in the clinic/hospital and rise to Chief Matron/Chief Nursing Staff

Husband - he can continue in his civil service job, no disruption and continue to strive to great heights in his career

Children - provides stability in the short term. They can continue their education in Nigeria, and perhaps study abroad at university age?


*SCENARIO 2* - relocation as NHS nurse Band 5? (Salary of £30k pa)

Nurse - starting afresh in a new country. Work for 5yrs to attain ILR/citizenship etc. Career growth not as easy as the oil company (no racism). Starting salary not great (especially if in London/South East England). Some nurses stay for a few years and migrate again to USA (more money).

Husband - major disruption for him. Needs to find a new job in the UK. Not sure of his line of work, if it’s easy to secure a job with his experience. Worst case, he will have to work menial jobs to augment family income while upgrading his skills to land professional job.

Children - coming into a new country. Free education at primary/secondary level. Can attend uni as a home student after attaining citizenship after 5/6yrs on sponsored visa.

Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would deeply reflect on my family’s long-term goals, and the kind of life I envision for my children. Most people want a decent life (security, good infrastructure, jobs opportunities, education for kids etc.), while some others swear that they cannot live outside of Naija because of our jovial and family oriented lifestyle (plus weather considerations). I’m in the camp of the former! I need a sane environment to function and I need a bit of predictability to plan my life, hence Scenario 2 for me.


Thank you very much
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 9:38am On Sep 16
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).


What is your husband's view on relocating and possibly working night shift considering your kids age? Does he have some skills that can get him a good job in the UK?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 10:35am On Sep 16
missjekyll:
There are quite a few very politically switched on people on here. There will be a heck of a lot to discuss in the next few months.
Shall we take ourselves off to a new UK/US politics thread? Where we can natter to our hearts content?

This thread is probably best suited to credit card, drivers license issues and the likes...
It's just a thought...what do you think?

Should we then rename this UK credit card or driving licence thread or basics of being in the UK thread?
Personally, I see this as a roundtable/beer parlour discuss and don't see a need to strictly police what can and can't be discussed as far its reasonably aligned and folks don't carry on a tangent for too long.
What might be worth considering is changing the thread title to 'Nigerians in the UK' i.e removing the immigrant badge.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:15pm On Sep 16
So I recently helped a family member apply for a Nigerian passport from the UK and I was shocked at the cost - £200 for a standard 10 years??😳 Wow! But it's actually more when you add in the £50 they had to pay to get the prerequisite national number and the £20 mandatory postal order. That's almost £300 for one person....add in travel for people coming in from outside London and it could be nearer £350.

I think it's an outrageous cost for the service (which isn't even a priority service - they have to wait over 2 months for their biometric appointment!). And don't get me started on the near insurmountable challenges we faced trying to upload a compliant passport photo. In the end we had to pay for an app which bumped up the overall cost even more 😵‍💫(why,oh why, in 2024 can they not embed a face scanning or similar technology to make the process easier for their customers citizens?)

How can families of 4 or 5 afford to renew their passports? I'm surprised there isn't more outrage about this tbh.

(For context a British passport is £88.50 for 10 years and a standard service which takes less than 3 weeks).

Sorry for the rant lol, but it was a very stressful process 🫠

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NurseGrace: 12:47pm On Sep 16
justwise:
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What is your husband's view on relocating and possibly working night shift considering your kids age? Does he have some skills that can get him a good job in the UK?

He is a civil engineer . No other skill asides that. And he is of the opinion that I should accept the job in the UK mainly because of the kids.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 12:59pm On Sep 16
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).

you have two great opportunities, you and your hubby need to sit down and consider the pros and cons.

But in my own opinion, the continuous devaluation of the naira will make me prefer the NHS option but be warned the UK is no tea party, the culture shocks and peculiarity of the UK society will surely take their toll on your entire family (are you ready for this?) but if you can have a roadmap on what you'll like to achieve in the long term, I will say use the UK as a launching pad for your nursing career to land in North America as your final destination where your nursing career will find more expression and better value for your family. Are you ready? If you are then give it a go. You won't regret it. More importantly, get the 100% buy-in of your spouse before you make the move.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Samguine: 1:05pm On Sep 16
Hkana:


Congratulations. Your post has given me a bit of hope. I'm currently learning to drive using a manual and I'm almost at my wits end. Lol.

Was yours a manual test?

Genuinely curious, why manual?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 1:10pm On Sep 16
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).
For 5 million naira monthly I will take the Nigerian option. You would have access to family support and childcare support from your family. Never underestimate the importance and value of a support system… I will choose this over the nhs a million times.
You would also easily pay rent of 5 million a year and have the remaining 11 months of the year to be relaxed and still have your 55 million intact.
On this amount- 5m monthly your family can sustain easily on your salary alone unlike here where more financial stability/freedom would be from 2 working individuals.
There’s just a lot to say.. but this is my honest opinion.
If it is for travelling abroad on holidays or to give birth abroad with 60m you would be able to have more than a robust financial picture.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 1:42pm On Sep 16
NurseGrace:


He is a civil engineer . No other skill asides that. And he is of the opinion that I should accept the job in the UK mainly because of the kids.

Basically, this is your decision as to whether you want to live in Nigeria or the UK and the peripherals surrounding that decision.

The only question we can answer for you is this: What will life look like at the outset on a Band 5 NHS salary of about £30k in England and about £32K in Scotland and with your husband possibly earning an income of about 3/4 of that initially with a whole ladder of opportunities to climb ahead. In summary, it can afford you a decent middle-class life.

1. Your annual salary will give you a base monthly salary of about £2000 to £2200 before (6.1%) pension deductions, which are optional but advisable. This depends on your rostering (you earn more when you work night shifts and weekend shifts). You can also get additional work/shifts, such as working with an agency or the NHS bank.

2. Depending on your location, when your husband starts earning and how much you bring along with you from Nigeria, (e.g assuming you are coming to live in an affordable area such as up north in England or in Scotland as opposed to London or the big cities) that amount could cover your expenses (e.g. let's assume somewhere like the Tyneside in England or Dundee in Scotland, in the region of £800 - £900 rent for a 2 bedroom flat, £200 council tax, £200 electricity and water, £300-400 feeding, another £100 for transport. It will take you a while to either join the NHS staff bank or sign up with an agency. Do some research online as to what rent would possibly be in your actual future location in the UK.

3. Your husband could get a job on a shift or zero-hours basis which gives him the flexibility to work at nights or weekends or whenever he is not dealing with the childcare. He could also get a full-time job, but that would most likely require a bit of retraining/further education, depending on his skills and experience, and a balancing of whether the income he would earn would cover any childcare you would now need to pay for if his job takes him out of the house. He could also get something remote/hybrid, this can work depending on your shifts (some trusts can make lifestyle adjustments for staff with childcare responsibilities and assign you a pre-defined roster, i.e. your required 3 day shifts can be fixed on specific days). Getting a job won't happen immediately - even if an application is accepted on arrival, or shortly thereafter. Financially plan for up to 3 months of no income coming from his end, and there is no timeline.

4. Being a nurse here is a bit different from being a nurse in Nigeria. Think doing personal care for instance. However, UK experience will take you to Canada, Australia or the US where the pay is way better. That can be a 2 year plan for you.

5. As others have mentioned, your children will get free state school education wherever you are. It is not always the best available, depending on location. Some areas have not too good schools. Some areas are not good, period. University tuition is free for settled persons and above in Scotland (most likely not for long), you pay fees or take on student loans in England and Wales. To out it into perspective, fees in England are currently £9250 a year. These amounts can be substantial. However, there are also many good pathways to earning a very good living in this country through on-the-job training or apprenticeships which do not require university education.

Best of luck with whatever decision you take.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 1:46pm On Sep 16
Samguine:


Genuinely curious, why manual?

When you take your test with a manual car, you get a full license which enables you to drive either manual or automatic vehicles. It can be useful if you have a job that requires you to drive an office vehicle, as quite a lot of those are still manual transmissions in this country. If you take your test with an automatic car, you can only drive automatics.

Manual cars are generally quite cheaper than automatics in this country, with some significant differences between the two versions of the same car.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 2:03pm On Sep 16
Zahra29:
So I recently helped a family member apply for a Nigerian passport from the UK and I was shocked at the cost - £200 for a standard 10 years??😳 Wow! But it's actually more when you add in the £50 they had to pay to get the prerequisite national number and the £20 mandatory postal order. That's almost £300 for one person....add in travel for people coming in from outside London and it could be nearer £350.

I think it's an outrageous cost for the service (which isn't even a priority service - they have to wait over 2 months for their biometric appointment!). And don't get me started on the near insurmountable challenges we faced trying to upload a compliant passport photo. In the end we had to pay for an app which bumped up the overall cost even more 😵‍💫(why,oh why, in 2024 can they not embed a face scanning or similar technology to make the process easier for their customers citizens?)

How can families of 4 or 5 afford to renew their passports? I'm surprised there isn't more outrage about this tbh.

(For context a British passport is £88.50 for 10 years and a standard service which takes less than 3 weeks).

Sorry for the rant lol, but it was a very stressful process 🫠

sorry for all that you had to go through, perhaps we can all begin to appreciate the huge challenges of living in the UK as a Nigerian. So when you see us shout about the UK visa costs, ihs fees, and taxes all you can see on display is a conglomerate of all our burdens as a people. No matter the outrage and in this current inflationary world, who will blink? none from either back home or where we are so you just have to carry your cross and keep hoping. Good to know you got it sorted. I even had a colleague who just told me today she had a biometric appointment for December, I had to tell her to re-check as some weeks back all appointments had been cancelled with everyone expected to reschedule, she never knew until today that her appointment like we say in Nigeria has entered voicemail and there was no email or announcement whatever to notify anyone. Welcome to our world sis.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NurseGrace: 2:13pm On Sep 16
Cyberknight:


Basically, this is your decision as to whether you want to live in Nigeria or the UK and the peripherals surrounding that decision.

The only question we can answer for you is this: What will life look like at the outset on a Band 5 NHS salary of about £30k in England and about £32K in Scotland and with your husband possibly earning an income of about 3/4 of that initially with a whole ladder of opportunities to climb ahead. In summary, it can afford you a decent middle-class life.

1. Your annual salary will give you a base monthly salary of about £2000 to £2200 before (6.1%) pension deductions, which are optional but advisable. This depends on your rostering (you earn more when you work night shifts and weekend shifts). You can also get additional work/shifts, such as working with an agency or the NHS bank.

2. Depending on your location, when your husband starts earning and how much you bring along with you from Nigeria, (e.g assuming you are coming to live in an affordable area such as up north in England or in Scotland as opposed to London or the big cities) that amount could cover your expenses (e.g. let's assume somewhere like the Tyneside in England or Dundee in Scotland, in the region of £800 - £900 rent for a 2 bedroom flat, £200 council tax, £200 electricity and water, £300-400 feeding, another £100 for transport. It will take you a while to either join the NHS staff bank or sign up with an agency. Do some research online as to what rent would possibly be in your actual future location in the UK.

3. Your husband could get a job on a shift or zero-hours basis which gives him the flexibility to work at nights or weekends or whenever he is not dealing with the childcare. He could also get a full-time job, but that would most likely require a bit of retraining/further education, depending on his skills and experience, and a balancing of whether the income he would earn would cover any childcare you would now need to pay for if his job takes him out of the house. He could also get something remote/hybrid, this can work depending on your shifts (some trusts can make lifestyle adjustments for staff with childcare responsibilities and assign you a pre-defined roster, i.e. your required 3 day shifts can be fixed on specific days). Getting a job won't happen immediately - even if an application is accepted on arrival, or shortly thereafter. Financially plan for up to 3 months of no income coming from his end, and there is no timeline.

4. Being a nurse here is a bit different from being a nurse in Nigeria. Think doing personal care for instance. However, UK experience will take you to Canada, Australia or the US where the pay is way better. That can be a 2 year plan for you.

5. As others have mentioned, your children will get free state school education wherever you are. It is not always the best available, depending on location. Some areas have not too good schools. Some areas are not good, period. University tuition is free for settled persons and above in Scotland (most likely not for long), you pay fees or take on student loans in England and Wales. To out it into perspective, fees in England are currently £9250 a year. These amounts can be substantial. However, there are also many good pathways to earning a very good living in this country through on-the-job training or apprenticeships which do not require university education.

Best of luck with whatever decision you take.

Thanks for this detailed explanation.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NurseGrace: 2:15pm On Sep 16
giselle237:

For 5 million naira monthly I will take the Nigerian option. You would have access to family support and childcare support from your family. Never underestimate the importance and value of a support system… I will choose this over the nhs a million times.
You would also easily pay rent of 5 million a year and have the remaining 11 months of the year to be relaxed and still have your 55 million intact.
On this amount- 5m monthly your family can sustain easily on your salary alone unlike here where more financial stability/freedom would be from 2 working individuals.
There’s just a lot to say.. but this is my honest opinion.
If it is for travelling abroad on holidays or to give birth abroad with 60m you would be able to have more than a robust financial picture.

Thank you
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NurseGrace: 2:19pm On Sep 16
Goke7:


you have two great opportunities, you and your hubby need to sit down and consider the pros and cons.

But in my own opinion, the continuous devaluation of the naira will make me prefer the NHS option but be warned the UK is no tea party, the culture shocks and peculiarity of the UK society will surely take their toll on your entire family (are you ready for this?) but if you can have a roadmap on what you'll like to achieve in the long term, I will say use the UK as a launching pad for your nursing career to land in North America as your final destination where your nursing career will find more expression and better value for your family. Are you ready? If you are then give it a go. You won't regret it. More importantly, get the 100% buy-in of your spouse before you make the move.

Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 2:35pm On Sep 16
NurseGrace:


He is a civil engineer . No other skill asides that. And he is of the opinion that I should accept the job in the UK mainly because of the kids.

If he has all his professional qualifications and experience as a civil engineer and he can check the UK equivalent, he's got some good prospects in the transportation and construction industry in the UK. Let him dig further, he could hit gold.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Samguine: 2:48pm On Sep 16
Cyberknight:


When you take your test with a manual car, you get a full license which enables you to drive either manual or automatic vehicles. It can be useful if you have a job that requires you to drive an office vehicle, as quite a lot of those are still manual transmissions in this country. If you take your test with an automatic car, you can only drive automatics.

Manual cars are generally quite cheaper than automatics in this country, with some significant differences between the two versions of the same car.

Makes sense. All the best
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 3:53pm On Sep 16
giselle237:

For 5 million naira monthly I will take the Nigerian option. You would have access to family support and childcare support from your family. Never underestimate the importance and value of a support system… I will choose this over the nhs a million times.
You would also easily pay rent of 5 million a year and have the remaining 11 months of the year to be relaxed and still have your 55 million intact.
On this amount- 5m monthly your family can sustain easily on your salary alone unlike here where more financial stability/freedom would be from 2 working individuals.
There’s just a lot to say.. but this is my honest opinion.
If it is for travelling abroad on holidays or to give birth abroad with 60m you would be able to have more than a robust financial picture.

Maybe 10 or 15 years ago, but not in today’s Nigeria. I know firsthand, people with oil company jobs relocating to Canada, UK etc. When you ask them why, the reason is simple:
Economy & forex instability: that bumper salary is not giving them good value for money. For example, if you’re working in Chevron, your house rent in Lekki and environs will be like 7 - 10m naira pa. Then there’s service charge/Band A Nepa bills 3 - 4m naira, millions for children’s school fees (decent school for an oil worker), cost of buying car (again oil big boy go drive better SUV, easily 10 or 20million), iPhone 15 (2million naira) etc. You get the point? You won’t enjoy your high salary with all the attendant issues in Naija…insecurity/kidnapping, further fix deterioration etc.
Forget giving birth in US or Canada. Too expensive. And foreign trips will be reduced because of the flights & spending costs. Not worth it at all

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 3:56pm On Sep 16
Jamesclooney:

Maybe 10 or 15th are ago, but not in today’s Nigeria. I know firsthand, people with oil company jobs relocating to Canada, UK etc. When you ask them why, the reason is simple:
Economy & forex instability: that bumper salary is not giving them good value for money. For example, if you’re working in Chevron, your house rent in Lekki and environs will be like 7 - 10m naira pa. Then there’s service charge/Band A Nepa bills 3 - 4m naira, millions for children’s school fees (decent school for an oil worker), cost of buying car (again oil big boy go drive better SUV, easily 10 or 20million), iPhone 15 (2million naira) etc. You get the point? You won’t enjoy your high salary with all the attendant issues in Naija…insecurity/kidnapping, further fix deterioration etc.
Forget giving birth in US or Canada. Too expensive. And foreign trips will be reduced because of the flights & spending costs. Not worth it at all
You are allowed to have your thoughts most assuredly. If I got 5m naira monthly in Nigeria I would not come here.
Rent is once a year. She pays her 7million out of 60million and is sorted. Rent is monthly here, this already makes both unequal to compare.
Iphone will not be bought every month. School fees is also not paid in Nigeria every month for 12 months.
Little or no tax in Nigeria. What is better about the Uk in terms of her starting salary? Nothing. Other luxuries would come easy and cheap.
Can she afford a driver, child minder, nanny and cook on the NHS starting salary as a nurse and still pay rent, council tax, water, electricity and cost of living in the UK from roughly £2300? NO! She can easily afford her luxuries every month in Nigeria and still be ok and have her family support childcare with a net of 5 million and no sweat. Her husband would also be working and bringing in his own income.
Only the childcare issues alone in the UK with children aged 5 years and 7 years and her shifts… she will start her cries..
yes there is insecurity in Nigeria but most people here still have majority of their families living in Nigeria, let me assume they dont care about their families—> most still have their biological parents living in Nigeria with the insecurity, what makes her different from your parents that are still living in the midst of this very drowning insecurity even though it breaks our hearts but we can not do anything ? Why is her own the highlight?
@nursegrace if the 5 million naira job is certain, take it!!!! It is a good sum to come in monthly for a WOMAN living in a low income, low taxed country like Nigeria. I am talking real life situation here, not internet. Your husband would easily be able to financially support his home.
Your workload in Nigeria can never be compared to the workload of an NHS nurse who still needs to go back home and be a wife and a mother. The burnout is real from all fronts.
For me, I can not compare a monthly take home of £2300 in the UK to that of 5 million naira in Nigeria and choose UK. I would be telling lies to you as I have earned way more than twice your NHS starting salary in here while going to work every single day completely burnt out but still showing up and in hindsight I would take a 5m option to live in Nigeria with my luxuries if I could. Easily affordable and accessible childcare for starters!!! . At least I would enjoy this 5m for the next one year first smiley
Leave no room for regrets. This typing space is too small for me to write everything.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by erico2k2(m): 5:27pm On Sep 16
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).
Take the UK JOB.

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