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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 11:00am On Sep 17
KarlTom:
I don't think they are going to decommission any of NAOC assets.


The provisions are meant to provide required funds for the eventual decommissioning of the assets in future, even if in 20 years time from now.
It is an industry requirement or standard that players in the upstream sector must comply with, because the decommissioning costs can be very huge and it is better they make adequate provisions long before the actual time/year the costs are incurred or expended

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Tpharell: 11:00am On Sep 17
KarlTom:
I don't think they are going to decommission any of NAOC assets.

The decommissioning (and abandonment) provision of the PIA 2021 provides for funds to be ‘reserved’ for that purpose in the future at the end of the asset life, not to be decommissioned immediately. All the divesting entities Mobil, Shell, Agip have old and aging assets like QIT terminal in Eket, Bonny terminal, and Brass terminal, which is why the regulator is insisting before approving.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Tpharell: 11:01am On Sep 17
mikeapollo:


The provisions are meant to provide required funds for the eventual decommissioning of the assets in future, even if in 20 years time from now.
It is an industry requirement or standard that players in the upstream sector must comply with, because the decommissioning costs can be very huge and it is better they make adequate provisions long before the actual time/year the costs are incurred or expended
Couldn’t have said it better, thank you!
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 11:02am On Sep 17
Tpharell:

While I have not seen anything empirical that shows Oando was favored against Seplat and Renaissance in the ongoing divestment, and nothing shows president Tinubu has any direct interest in Oando which was founded even before he became governor in 1999, you cannot pretend or discount the reality of how Nigeria works. People own companies by proxy in a manner that the ‘veil cannot be lifted’. It will be downright and gravely delusional to not consider that Wale Tinubu who has direct access to the president (a blood relative) can very easily call in a favor for Oando and the weak regulatory bodies will read the body language coming out of the villa and do the needful.

Fair comment.

Please let us continue with the education on happenings in the energy sector (not only about Oando and Seplat).
I am learning a lot.
Kudos to all the contributors.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 11:08am On Sep 17
KarlTom:
I don't think they are going to decommission any of NAOC assets.


All assets will be decommissioned at the end of their service life. The provisions are just setting aside money for this when they occur in future. So that assets will not pose danger to people when they are no more in use for operations.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 11:08am On Sep 17
yMcy56:

Mega, check your mail and reply....
You asked one question here but I replied thru mail, seems you didn't check it.

Already checked
Can't see it. Maybe you resend it
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by robobo: 11:09am On Sep 17
mikeapollo:


The provisions are meant to provide required funds for the eventual decommissioning of the assets in future, even if in 20 years time from now.
It is an industry requirement or standard that players in the upstream sector must comply with, because the decommissioning costs can be very huge and it is better they make adequate provisions long before the actual time/year the costs are incurred or expended

meaning its not cash outflow yet? (please correct me if i am wrong). Hence it just an accounting treating like depreciation, which is only expended (becomes an outflow) when the actual event (decommissioning) happened, but it is yearly charged against profit?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by godlyguy(m): 11:13am On Sep 17
BabsO2:




On your quoted Investopedia picture, I don't think (I am not sure as I rely only on their published financial statements - perhaps another media hype) the plc is insolvent as it still meets its payments to lenders. Also, it generated a positive cashflow from operations in the unaudited 2023 FY published. Infact its cash balance grew in 2023 after cashflow payments to lenders and cashflow out for investment activities, suggesting a turnaround has commenced. Looking closely at the make-up of liabilities a sizeable amount is provision for expected settlements that arose in 2023 plus also provisions for decommissioning activities. If one looks at quarter on quarter perhaps one will have a better clue at that provision to see if there is possibility for the final amount coming out higher or smaller. Also, Oando appears prudent for putting provisions for decommissioning activities in its liabilities. It is worth cross-checking if other local oil production companies like SEPLAT and ARADEL have provisions for decommissioning activities and to understand what exactly the provisions are for.

This is not a warning or Sell or Buy recommendation. But a discuss. Oando may fall or rise in price.

My point isn't even about the price movement of oando. They should release the results instead of always rushing to the media for PR or MEDIA HYPE

I don't even check their price as what is more important is their financials being a public institution. The public needs to know

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Tpharell: 11:15am On Sep 17
Tpharell:

While I have not seen anything empirical that shows Oando was favored against Seplat and Renaissance in the ongoing divestment, and nothing shows president Tinubu has any direct interest in Oando which was founded even before he became governor in 1999, you cannot pretend or discount the reality of how Nigeria works. People own companies by proxy in a manner that the ‘veil cannot be lifted’. It will be downright and gravely delusional to not consider that Wale Tinubu who has direct access to the president (a blood relative) can very easily call in a favor for Oando and the weak regulatory bodies will read the body language coming out of the villa and do the needful.
Let me also add that Oando had an advantage over the other divesting entities that could have played into their sealing their deal before others.
Being already a participant in the JV with 20% acquired from ConocoPhillips a decade ago, they added Agip’s 20% state in the JV and became the operator. So the JV was already familiar terrain for them even before the divestment, unlike Seplat who has never participated in the Mobil JV they seek to acquire now

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 11:16am On Sep 17
megawealth01:
Already checked
Can't see it. Maybe you resend it
You asked and i replied since 23rd Aug.
Check again.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 11:19am On Sep 17
mikeapollo:


I suspect FBNH will be coming to raise capital.
Expect UBA soon after FBNH

A power play is still ongoing in FBNH, difficult to forecast timing of their capital raise. However, I forecast they'll wait till next year especially UBA.
it's better they wait for a year while dishing out better dividends to excite investors, while proving they have gone up a notch in financial strength. They can only prove this through increased dividend payments. This will then make the market adjust their valuations up.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 11:22am On Sep 17
Tpharell:

Let me also add that Oando had an advantage over the other divesting entities that could have played into their sealing their deal before others.
Being already a participant in the JV with 20% acquired from ConocoPhillips a decade ago, they added Agip’s 20% state in the JV and became the operator. So the JV was already familiar terrain for them even before the divestment, unlike Seplat who has never participated in the Mobil JV they seek to acquire now

True.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 11:23am On Sep 17
TRANSPOWER
What are these guys actually up to?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 11:26am On Sep 17
Kereokwu:
@yMcy56 kindly help, I want a second brokerage account with competitive charges/commission like morgan
Try Atlas's Portfolios Limited
Or
APEL Alpha ......

But I dont know if APEL has real time data but I know of Atlas's
Both has low brokerage fees and other things you might be looking for.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 11:29am On Sep 17
mikeapollo:


I suspect FBNH will be coming to raise capital.
Expect UBA soon after FBNH

May not happen this year as the people inside fbnh are powerful enough to fund anything grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 11:32am On Sep 17
yMcy56:

Mega, check your mail and reply....
You asked one question here but I replied thru mail, seems you didn't check it.

I've seen it. Thanks for your understanding

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 11:34am On Sep 17
So as I’m hearing it off the phone now. I think the transaction WILL affect HONEY.
megawealth01:


Please do. I want to check something
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mikeapollo: 11:37am On Sep 17
godlyguy:


My point isn't even about the price movement of oando. They should release the results instead of always rushing to the media for PR or MEDIA HYPE

I don't even check their price as what is more important is their financials being a public institution. The public needs to know

A news portal goes to publish an old news about a company, and you are blaming the company for media hype?
The news item in question is not a recent press conference or press release by Oando.
It is a news portal reporting a story that is more than a year old. It would have been different if it is Oando doing a press release and repeating the same news again and again.
Don't you know that some news portals sometimes recycle stories to fill in spaces?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by KarlTom: 11:37am On Sep 17
NASCON has moved... smiley

Zegra:


The stock will likely still close flat as there is no news to move it northward now.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 11:38am On Sep 17
Tpharell:

Not “sounding like”, already is a broken record of pain, regret, frustration and sadism here on account of missing out on a once in a lifetime
You are feeling you can speak English now.If he decides to go to the gutters with you.This thread will be derailed .Is all that trash necessary
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 11:40am On Sep 17
Interesting. Zenith mark down today by N1 for dividend payment does not look obvious because of the N38 closing price on Friday grin So buying today means I am not entitled to dividend. Making the PO offer a discount of 50 kobo today for one interested in loading up through PO route, while getting a N1 discount if one still has rights not yet taken. shocked

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by crownprince2017: 11:43am On Sep 17
We are still waiting for the penny stock oooo..

I never see street break light today, someone should find his trouble na, I want to check something.. grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Panadee: 12:15pm On Sep 17
Sunrisepebble:
So as I’m hearing it off the phone now. I think the transaction WILL affect HONEY.

Thanks for letting sunlight into the WELL 😂

I suspected as much after the FMN hint and it’s been on full bid since morning

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 12:16pm On Sep 17
N950/litre Dangote Petrol May Justify More Importation -marketers

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 12:26pm On Sep 17
crownprince2017:
We are still waiting for the penny stock oooo..

I never see street break light today, someone should find his trouble na, I want to check something.. grin grin
Lol.he said < #5.

I am now reformed born again which I don't even know what it means. I nobi gentle man.That is another name for mugu on the street whr we live.If dey slap you.Remove the head so that fight will end quickly but make sure nobi look for trouble first
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Princkez: 12:29pm On Sep 17
The way ELLAHLAKES is trading volumes these days....hope nothing
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 12:34pm On Sep 17
The yeye people way buy international energy. If you guys don't have money to pay us the school fees that has been seriously been reduced. Then free the stock now so that we could collect our school fees in full.This is witch craft oh
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 12:40pm On Sep 17
So it is still rumor but with the equity related transaction that concerns FMN and what I’m hearing they’re planning to do at completion of the exercise, it will definitely affect HONEY due to the significant stake. They are doing a consolidation. FMN had a predetermined price of about #70, but with recent share price appreciation and activity I believe that will now be revised upwards, to the displeasure of the people at FMN. With regards a target price for HONEY I am still unaware of the happenings there. Will drop more info as it becomes available
Panadee:


Thanks for letting sunlight into the WELL 😂

I suspected as much after the FMN hint and it’s been on full bid since morning

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Camoready: 12:45pm On Sep 17
UBA interim. Any ideas on the date.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by designking: 12:46pm On Sep 17
Sunrisepebble:
So it is still rumor but with the equity related transaction that concerns FMN and what I’m hearing they’re planning to do at completion of the exercise, it will definitely affect HONEY due to the significant stake. They are doing a consolidation. FMN had a predetermined price of about #70, but with recent share price appreciation and activity I believe that will now be revised upwards, to the displeasure of the people at FMN. With regards a target price for HONEY I am still unaware of the happenings there. Will drop more info as it becomes available

What is FMN?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by unite4real: 12:46pm On Sep 17
GEREGU has moved

N1,050 ********

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by sterlingD(m): 12:48pm On Sep 17
designking:


What is FMN?
Flour Mill Nigeria PLC

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