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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ojeysky(m): 4:41pm On Sep 17
Championbrew bonus shares landed safely

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nosa2(m): 4:42pm On Sep 17
Sunrisepebble:
FINAL and FULL info on FMN, as it is no longer classified info and has spread far and wide within various circles, the coy wants to delist from the exchange. And will ofcourse purchase at a premium. The premium was set around #70 while the stock was trading ~#45, however with recent gains, it will be revised upwards. HONEYFLOUR will be included in the transaction, as they want to delist the two entities, consolidate and then list again as a new entity. Purchase price for HONEYFLOUR, I am unsure of. Congrats to all those who listened to the initial signal

This is my problem with this investemnt thread being on Nairaland. Because it is not a dedicated investment forum a lot of important posts get lost with the banter. I am mulling the idea of starting a dedicated investment community

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nosa2(m): 4:43pm On Sep 17
nosa2:


double entry
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 4:47pm On Sep 17
Those who followed me when I was hawking Aradel @ #4-5k, congratulations, you should have made 100%+. The quickest and easiest money I’ve made in my life. This is just 1 phase out of 3 that I foresee. Today was the last day of trading, as redenomination will commence tomorrow and shares should be tradeable on Monday at #490 using today’s closing price. Phase 2 of the second rally, is the 3 week window where it’ll trade at the split price and Phase 3 when it comes to NGX in October. Note: I do have some valuation concerns around the stock now, considering it is trading at the same market cap as Seplat which is a bigger company in terms of production and reserves, although Aradel has a different business model also operating in the midstream space. Due to my concerns, I have sold down my initial principal at todays high and hoping to Jijo with the profit in Phase 2 and 3.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 4:49pm On Sep 17
Lol....@emmanuelewumi &
@BabsO2 yet again. grin

U guys remind me of Football fans with their affiliation for different clubs and their supposed healthy rivalry amongst them.

Somehow, likeness for some players cut across these club affiliations.
These players defend their clubs where necessary according to rules of the game with little-or-no-->
purposeful rough tackles, field insults n fights, media banters, mischievous attack, indirect comments and mind games. Yet still cheerfully relate with same opposition clubs/fans because in the end, it's just a game.. grin smiley

These players win the hearts of about 95% of many soccer fans across club-lines effortlessly despite such players being in opposition/rivalry clubs..
They have also proven to be good in their position of play as well.
-Ronaldo(Delima)
-Beckham
-Vanpersie
-Ronaldinho
-Markelele
-T. Henry
-Zidane
-Kante
-Pirlo
-etc
(there could be others)

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Sunrisepebble: 4:52pm On Sep 17
As someone as said previously here before, what is overvalued to me, may be undervalued to the rest of the investors and the world. Hoping this is the case grin
Sunrisepebble:
Those who followed me when I was hawking Aradel @ #4-5k, congratulations, you should have made 100%+. The quickest and easiest money I’ve made in my life. This is just 1 phase out of 3 that I foresee. Today was the last day of trading, as redenomination will commence tomorrow and shares should be tradeable on Monday at #490 using today’s closing price. Phase 2 of the second rally, is the 3 week window where it’ll trade at the split price and Phase 3 when it comes to NGX in October. Note: I do have some valuation concerns around the stock now, considering it is trading at the same market cap as Seplat which is a bigger company in terms of production and reserves, although Aradel has a different business model also operating in the midstream space. Due to my concerns, I have sold down my initial principal at todays high and hoping to Jijo with the profit in Phase 2 and 3.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 4:54pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:




Assuming the N300 million asset of Emeka and Uche generate the same annual cash flow of N100 million per annum.

Emeka can use N70 million to service his N160 million debt, reinvest in his business.


Whereas the N70 million annual cash flow of Uche can't service his N350 million debt. He will rely on overdraft for the running of his operations, will always be renegotiating loans with his bank, will be using debts to service debt


The only way Uche can get out of this quagmire is recapitalize his business, inject more capital in form of equity.


You're seeing a quagmire.
Uche is seeing his goldmine.
Why else is he scheming to take the company private, away from the prying eyes of the public?
To go and drown alone in debt?

Uche knows the problems of his company more than anybody else.
He also knows the secrets.
He is the ultimate insider, and he wants to take the company private.

Manie we know as a master forensic investment analyst.
But Godlyguy looks like one of Uche's desperate agents to help scare minorities away for ease of delisting.

We're not falling for it. grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 5:05pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:



No record of free cash flow for Uche, infact he had to sell his Jeep, land and house in order to enhance liquidity yet his liabilities are more than his assets


Another major problem with him is with his working capital

He found out he could get cheaper loans from First Bank, so he got another loan from First Bank in order to settle Access Bank because those guys at Access are Badass

From 20,000bpd to confirmed 40,000bpd in few days after taking over, with projections for 100,000bpd by December this year. Uche may have had a rough past but an objective evaluation of Uche's future shows promises of good fortune.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jckgroup1(m): 5:14pm On Sep 17
Still awaiting the penny stock @Sunrisepebble
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jckgroup1(m): 5:19pm On Sep 17
Sunrisepebble:
As someone as said previously here before, what is overvalued to me, may be undervalued to the rest of the investors and the world. Hoping this is the case grin

Gracias for your lucrative information though I didn't buy in though some others did.... interested in the promised penny stock pick.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:23pm On Sep 17
GeeKudi:


From 20,000bpd to confirmed 40,000bpd in few days after taking over, with projections for 100,000bpd by December this year. Uche may have had a rough past but an objective evaluation of Uche's future shows promises of good fortune.


Cash is real but earning is an opinion.

There is usually a 70% probability that forecast will go wrong.

Uche can't just come out of his negative net asset and negative working capital by virtue of the purported increase in revenue.

In fact to harness the opportunities he will go deeper in debt.

It is not all growth that leads to profitability and it is not all profitability that creates wealth, it is not all wealth that is sustainable.

It is when the tide is over that we will know those that are swimming naked.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by jckgroup1(m): 5:24pm On Sep 17
@megawealth

I tried emailing you... Kindly do the needful Sir.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 5:25pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:

I will advise you to study his accounts again, he doesn't have free cash flow, working capital is in negative same with solvency state

Not used to calculating free cash flow. I understand the concept. Look at the cashflow statement. Oando had a neat positive FCF in 2023 unaudited of N105 billion.

Please can those used to FCF calculations please cross-check.

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 5:26pm On Sep 17
presiade:


He would be considered a ritualist if he was a Nigerian!!! Mentality. grin

Sitting on a $280b mountain of cash, said to be only half of his company's portfolio size, and refusing his loved one a humble request of $40,000 tied to a specific need, suggesting it's not a habitual pestering for money.........

Here is what a miser looks like, both in Africa and in America.
At 80+ what much time left does he have to share love?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeeKudi: 5:36pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:



Cash is real but earning is an opinion.

There is usually a 70% probability that forecast will go wrong.

Uche can't just come out of his negative net asset and negative working capital by virtue of the purported increase in revenue.

In fact to harness the opportunities he will go deeper in debt.

It is not all growth that leads to profitability and it is not all profitability that creates wealth, it is not all wealth that is sustainable.

It is when the tide is over that we will know those that are swimming naked.


The 20k to 40k is no longer in the realm of projection. The revenue from selling MW to the national grid is no longer in the realm of projection. The fact that Uche is a favored son (nothing wrong with this, we all wish to be) is not a projection.

Why do you want to permanently tie Uche down to his past and not accord him any chance of survival at all?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:48pm On Sep 17
GeeKudi:


The 20k to 40k is no longer in the realm of projection. The revenue from selling MW to the national grid is no longer in the realm of projection. The fact that Uche is a favored son (nothing wrong with this, we all wish to be) is not a projection.

Why do you want to permanently tie Uche down to his past and not accord him any chance of survival at all?


How does MW relate to Uche.

Uche sells phones and computers at Ikeja. And you are talking about MW


He is still having arguments with his auditors, accountants and tax professionals about 2023 financial reports, you are talking of 2024.

I met Uche at the club last weekend , he even bought drinks for me, he confessed things are looking up , but no be how you dey paint am

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:52pm On Sep 17
BabsO2:


Not used to calculating free cash flow. I understand the concept. Look at the cashflow statement. Oando had a neat positive FCF in 2023 unaudited of N105 billion.

Please can experts in FCF calculations please cross-check.


Uche business is not up to this size na.


Is this an audited report?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by 2zona(m): 5:53pm On Sep 17
yMcy56:
NASCON Bonus
Pls, has any Morgan user been credited with this bonus?
Or you've seen it credited to your CSCS statement?
Thanks in anticipation.

Morgan will not have the figure updated in your portfolio but it's existing in your portfolio already.

What do I mean.?

If you have existing 5 units in your portfolio and you are expecting 2 units of bonus. Morgan will not update your portfolio to 7 units. But if you place 7 units for sale, it will go through.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 5:54pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:


Uche business is not up to this size na.

Is this an audited report?

Uche's business is MEGA grin
Unaudited 2023.

I even understated the FCF it is approaching $170b sef
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:58pm On Sep 17
BabsO2:


Uche's business is MEGA grin
Unaudited 2023.


Using audited result will be misleading. Wait till he resolves the argument he is having with his auditors, accountants and tax professionals
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by KarlTom: 5:59pm On Sep 17
I expected this response.
We can call him all sorts of names, but he has a philosophy which has brought him [and kept him] at the 'top'.

I have read extensively about WBs children and he did not just start last year.

May I also add that he's not the only one towing that path
zendi:

Sitting on a $280b mountain of cash, said to be only half of his company's portfolio size, and refusing his loved one a humble request of $40,000 tied to a specific need, suggesting it's not a habitual pestering for money.........

Here is what a miser looks like, both in Africa and in America.
At 80+ what much time left does he have to share love?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 6:01pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:



Using unaudited result will be misleading. Wait till he resolves the argument he is having with his auditors, accountants and tax professionals

No matter the argument FCF is between N100b & N200b

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by crownprince2017: 6:03pm On Sep 17
Why is it when fmn is out of debt that they want to delist at #70, we suffer together but they want to enjoy the fruit alone. Na wayo they want do ooooo.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:12pm On Sep 17
BabsO2:


No matter the argument FCF is between N100b & N200b


What is free with a negative equity that is greater than that, negative working capital that is greater than that.

Infact there is no basis for the calculation of Return on Equity because equity is less than zero, it is negative over N200 billion.


No basis for the calculation of Return on Invested Capital

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 6:16pm On Sep 17
yMcy56:
I think las las, Flour Mills will buy out the minority shareholders OR merge with Honeywell and allocate FMN shares to minority shareholders in form of share conversion in ratio distribution.

Presently 71.69% acquisition from Honeywell Plc + 5.06% from FBNH....... totalling 76.75%

Remaining minority owns mere 23.25%.
There might be need for rebranding .........

Was posted here sometimes ago but many didn't agree to this.
November 23, 2021 post......
If person say make una dey pay this seer now, una no go gree pay.....😁
Chai!! I remembered some of those bashings then......
Nsempas una well done o. tongue
Let's wait for official announcement anyway...

** It still remain one more that I will remind you about.......on this same Honeywell, but not now, let official announcement comes out first...

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:17pm On Sep 17
crownprince2017:
Why is it when fmn is out of debt that they want to delist at #70, we suffer together but they want to enjoy the fruit alone. Na wayo they want do ooooo.


I didn't think they will delist, they might restructure the business.


It is a conglomerate with interest in flour milling, agriculture, food production, sugar production, port management, real estate, fertilizer production, logistics etc

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:18pm On Sep 17
emmanuelewumi:



I didn't think they will delist, they might restructure the business.


It is a conglomerate with interest in flour milling, agriculture, food production, sugar production, port management, real estate, fertilizer production, logistics etc



They planned to spin-off the company into 4 businesses few years ago. I wonder why they stopped
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 6:18pm On Sep 17
crownprince2017:
Why is it when fmn is out of debt that they want to delist at #70, we suffer together but they want to enjoy the fruit alone. Na wayo they want do ooooo.
It's not delisting, it's some sort of merger......but it's looking more like absorbing Honeywell.
Dont know yet if other subsidiaries will be involved.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 6:29pm On Sep 17
2zona:
Morgan will not have the figure updated in your portfolio but it's existing in your portfolio already.

What do I mean.?

If you have existing 5 units in your portfolio and you are expecting 2 units of bonus. Morgan will not update your portfolio to 7 units. But if you place 7 units for sale, it will go through.
Great. Thanks.
Just wanted to know if it's posted on individual's CSCS already.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nedu666: 6:43pm On Sep 17
Who in the house knows when ucap will credit us with awa bonus
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 7:24pm On Sep 17
Tpharell:

Now, this is a rather bleak picture!
But Uche is able to keep up appearances, and is considered the toast of the town amongst young women in the area.


grin grin cheesy cheesy

Abeg leave my Uche alone eeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56: 7:56pm On Sep 17
Sunrisepebble:
.The premium was set around #70 while the stock was trading ~#45, however with recent gains, it will be revised upwards. HONEYFLOUR will be included in the transaction....
Concerning review upwards, I think the stocks valuation will be carried out by the experts in that field......
They can't just pick one figure or base the valuation on only the share price(s).
Many factors will be considered........FMN and the subsidiary(ies) to be involved, book value, etc.

The gurus here used to assist with such valuation and direction in the past........but not anymore these days.

For those that may want to rush in at any available market price, try and put this in mind.
We needed to see the official arrangements and docs to be able to have a clear direction.....

*My amateur opinion*

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