Smartb0y:

Lol, it's just the rule of life.
You have to sacrifice something for something.

If he takes her out,high tendency she'll ruin him.
My bro was telling me that Nigerian women in UK got the highest call rate for domestic abuse.
Any small thing, they'll call police

So there's always something to sacrifice.
Either she ruin herself here or she ruins him there.

The lesser evil is to leave her in Nigeria, then let him work hard & save money for himself.
Whenever he's done staying abroad & comes back to Nigeria permanently, he should divorce her & marry a new wife

..

Let's talk about cold approaching. I know it has been brought up on this thread in the past and it's not everyone's cup of tea but I don't believe you can be the most confident version of yourself without doing it.

I'm trying to form this habit of always putting myself in uncomfortable situations because like exercising, you won't be the best version of yourself if you don't stress your muscles. Not only with cold approaching, I'm trying to apply this in other areas too.

And just like exercising, you need to make cold approaching a habit. You don't need to be perfect at it. Just make it a habit.
Even if you feel you are confident enough or you have a lot of girls on your plate. You can only get better.

You don't even have to link up with the girls afterward just make it a habit to approach and please only very attractive girls.

I used to think when you are cold approaching, you are stroking their ego but the truth is, it's about strengthening your own because she doesn't have the balls to do what you just did. Building confidence in this area will also transfer to other areas of your life.

Everybody should be doing it even if you are on Monk Mode. Like I said you don't need to link up with the girls afterward which means you don't need to spend a lot of time talking to her.

Also some people will tell you wait for choosing signals and all that but ignore that and just approach. You can do cold approach and warm approach at the same time. If you know it's someone you will still see around then you can use warm approach but I'll pick cold approach in most situation.

I started getting a lot of choosing signals when I started cold approaching. It's crazy. Not that I didn't use to get choosing signals but it could be like once in a year but the week i started cold approaching, i got 3 choosing signals. I feel women can sense the aura.

And yes most of the girls I have linked up with are the ones that gave me choosing signals but I think that's because I am not yet very confident in my cold approach but I know I'll get better with time.

I hope this helps. Keep pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and watch your confidence soar.

adambeatz:
Nigeria is really a mess, men are really going through a lot,both married and single. One of my guys that got married 3 years ago is currently facing infidelity in his marriage. He lost his job as of 6 months back, was hell from then on in his home. His wife started giving attitude and when he confronted her she challenged him to his face, very embarrassing for someone who was financially buoyant back then but to fullfil his duties as a man is now a problem. His wife who he setup a side business for and got her a good paying job now talks to him anyhow. Guy man at times over hears his wife on phone with her family insulting him and she laughs about it. Last two weeks was when she slept off in the sitting room, he was about taking her inside the room when he saw her chat as the screen didn't lock. Guy man said he took his time and took screenshots and forwarded the voice notes with his wife's side piece. From then he locked up untill he landed a deal to supply materials to a Chinese company, he was paid 30% upfront but decided to keep quiet. He called us to go hangout some weeks back, when he was drunk he spilled what was going on in his home and how they still think he's broke but now that he's stable he doesn't want her to know what's up.

Everybody brought their ideas on how to handle it but I asked if he could forgive her, guy man swore that he can never forgive her in this life of the next, I told him the next step is simple, did you do court marriage, he said yes, told him to fake broke sell off everything sell what he can sell and cut her off, then after the divorce he can rub it in her face. My guy been a patient kind of guy bought the idea and is currently working on it, he bought a new car and keeps it's in a neighbours house for the mean time. If he wasn't capable on b*d it would have been a different thing buy guy man doesn't carry last in that department. Just wish him the best in going forward with that Jezebel.

You see that gender, when things are tough it takes an extraordinary woman to stick by you, I recently got one babe who is always billing me like mad, I was complying untill I reversed the game on her, honestly I expected her to fail but damn, she comes through for me like a guardian angel on standby, any avenue I would want to use to pin her down she doesn't argue and corrects herself sharply. Some ways she dresses I caution her, next time she readjusts herself. The babe no like long talks at all, still shit testing her to see but the babe just wants to chill and enjoy life without stress, every Friday she would buy drinks and food and drive down to my place so we can chill, when I realized it was a pattern I tried changing it but she quickly saw through it and explained why she pins me down Fridays due to insecurities in the country as Fridays are always days people go out to chill hence fights tends to break out in clubs and she is not someone that takes bad news lightly.

I've vetted from her friends who at first were beefing me cause they don't see her around but have no choice in the matter. The banny took me put to a party last Friday to hangout and most of the people there were her co workers and Friends, most of them have heard of me already. Still looking for ways to find a crack in her armor but till then let me chill and observe things. Stay safe guys

Omo real matters


Abeg dey drop update on that your guy

Make single guy like me fit take learn one or two stuffs

Hello
I have been following this thread from the beginning and i have learned immensely from this forum so far so good.. Am greatful
But there is something troubling me recently, there is a girl am into in my uni here, we've met chatted and talked one or one.
Recently our conversation has been so chemical and am intending on asking her out via WhatsApp because i can't get access to her physically for the Time being

Although i don't really fancy out asking girls online as it makes me feel cowardly, but at the same Time i don't wanna snooze and loose this girl to another guy who has more game
Pls gent's what do you advice
Should i go ahead and shoot my shot on-line??

dreamxhaser:
That my girlfriend I told y’all about? Well she stopped talking to me for some days now.

What happened was I’ve not been giving her full attention or treating her like I used to for more than 2 month now. My plan was to flip the coin, give her drama and make her think about me (even if it’s about negative stuffs).

So I will sweet talk her and act like I am obsess with her for a day or two. Then I’ll treat her like shit afterwards. Just giving her mixed signals

At first she stopped talking to me, and expected me to apologize like I used to. But I just freestyle her matter. Until she gave up and chat me up herself after a week.

She started complaining that I don’t call her again. Bla bla bla

She even said I’ve changed and it was unlike me (of course I’ve changed b***ch).

Even the last time we met, I could see the anger on her face.

So after a short argument we had some days back. She sent me a snap on Snapchat. In the snap was a guy and a ladies hand in his car. They took a picture of it and she tagged him captioning “Love Scare”

Funny enough, I already knew about the guy but lock up. She started dating the guy when I started giving her mixed signals. I expected her to end things with me (which I wouldn’t have cared cause I now have multiple options) but she still continued. So in my mind, I thought maybe she was waiting for her birthday (which was close).

Well regarding the snap of her and the guy, I was pained. Not because she sent me that stuff, but because I opened it. I wanted to lock up, but Omo make e no be like the thing pain me. So I just brought the issue up with style during conversation and even encourage her to keep the love sweet between them. I didn’t show any sign that I was offended.

She said I was pissing her off , then came back 15 minutes later to tell me how he was her friend’s boyfriend. Bla bla bla (Lol she must have thought of a lie to give).



Anyways her birthday came and passed. I didn’t post her. Just sent her a message In her DM. Then delayed her birthday gift to see her reaction. Omo she was so pissed she couldn’t hide it. She just Dey chock me talk indirectly tgat day. Hehehe😂 and she stopped talking to me when she got home.

Her instagram is now filled with stories of how she hates men. Bla bla bla

Omo life moves on oooh. Me I just continue to post my hangouts with my guys and other girls. Life is too short to worry about one girl.

Funny enough I am sure she is waiting and she will give up and still chat me up again. If she does which she will……..

The birthday was part of my plan to put her on her place so she would know she has no value like before.

After learning about being the price. The way I Dey carry myself for women eh. It just works mehn, like magic.

Now!

*Sighs*

Timothykesh13:
Hello
I have been following this thread from the beginning and i have learned immensely from this forum so far so good.. Am greatful
But there is something troubling me recently, there is a girl am into in my uni here, we've met chatted and talked one or one.
Recently our conversation has been so chemical and am intending on asking her out via WhatsApp because i can't get access to her physically for the Time being

Although i don't really fancy out asking girls online as it makes me feel cowardly, but at the same Time i don't wanna snooze and loose this girl to another guy who has more game
Pls gent's what do you advice
Should i go ahead and shoot my shot on-line??

Chemical conversation 😳😳😳

Timothykesh13:
Hello
I have been following this thread from the beginning and i have learned immensely from this forum so far so good.. Am greatful
But there is something troubling me recently, there is a girl am into in my uni here, we've met chatted and talked one or one.
Recently our conversation has been so chemical and am intending on asking her out via WhatsApp because i can't get access to her physically for the Time being

Although i don't really fancy out asking girls online as it makes me feel cowardly, but at the same Time i don't wanna snooze and loose this girl to another guy who has more game
Pls gent's what do you advice
Should i go ahead and shoot my shot on-line??

If you've actually read this thread, you'd know asking a girl out is a BAD move whether offline or online. It's way worse online


You want to meet with her first then establish a sexual relationship with her before dating her

ElasmoBranchii:
Let's talk about cold approaching. I know it has been brought up on this thread in the past and it's not everyone's cup of tea but I don't believe you can be the most confident version of yourself without doing it.

I'm trying to form this habit of always putting myself in uncomfortable situations because like exercising, you won't be the best version of yourself if you don't stress your muscles. Not only with cold approaching, I'm trying to apply this in other areas too.

And just like exercising, you need to make cold approaching a habit. You don't need to be perfect at it. Just make it a habit.
Even if you feel you are confident enough or you have a lot of girls on your plate. You can only get better.

You don't even have to link up with the girls afterward just make it a habit to approach and please only very attractive girls.

I used to think when you are cold approaching, you are stroking their ego but the truth is, it's about strengthening your own because she doesn't have the balls to do what you just did. Building confidence in this area will also transfer to other areas of your life.

Everybody should be doing it even if you are on Monk Mode. Like I said you don't need to link up with the girls afterward which means you don't need to spend a lot of time talking to her.

Also some people will tell you wait for choosing signals and all that but ignore that and just approach. You can do cold approach and warm approach at the same time. If you know it's someone you will still see around then you can use warm approach but I'll pick cold approach in most situation.

I started getting a lot of choosing signals when I started cold approaching. It's crazy. Not that I didn't use to get choosing signals but it could be like once in a year but the week i started cold approaching, i got 3 choosing signals. I feel women can sense the aura.

And yes most of the girls I have linked up with are the ones that gave me choosing signals but I think that's because I am not yet very confident in my cold approach but I know I'll get better with time.

I hope this helps. Keep pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and watch your confidence soar.

Yup cold approach is fun but hard for most people.

I enjoy it more. The thrill & adventures are exciting

dreamxhaser:
That my girlfriend I told y’all about? Well she stopped talking to me for some days now.

What happened was I’ve not been giving her full attention or treating her like I used to for more than 2 month now. My plan was to flip the coin, give her drama and make her think about me (even if it’s about negative stuffs).

So I will sweet talk her and act like I am obsess with her for a day or two. Then I’ll treat her like shit afterwards. Just giving her mixed signals

At first she stopped talking to me, and expected me to apologize like I used to. But I just freestyle her matter. Until she gave up and chat me up herself after a week.

She started complaining that I don’t call her again. Bla bla bla

She even said I’ve changed and it was unlike me (of course I’ve changed b***ch).

Even the last time we met, I could see the anger on her face.

So after a short argument we had some days back. She sent me a snap on Snapchat. In the snap was a guy and a ladies hand in his car. They took a picture of it and she tagged him captioning “Love Scare”

Funny enough, I already knew about the guy but lock up. She started dating the guy when I started giving her mixed signals. I expected her to end things with me (which I wouldn’t have cared cause I now have multiple options) but she still continued. So in my mind, I thought maybe she was waiting for her birthday (which was close).

Well regarding the snap of her and the guy, I was pained. Not because she sent me that stuff, but because I opened it. I wanted to lock up, but Omo make e no be like the thing pain me. So I just brought the issue up with style during conversation and even encourage her to keep the love sweet between them. I didn’t show any sign that I was offended.

She said I was pissing her off , then came back 15 minutes later to tell me how he was her friend’s boyfriend. Bla bla bla (Lol she must have thought of a lie to give).



Anyways her birthday came and passed. I didn’t post her. Just sent her a message In her DM. Then delayed her birthday gift to see her reaction. Omo she was so pissed she couldn’t hide it. She just Dey chock me talk indirectly tgat day. Hehehe😂 and she stopped talking to me when she got home.

Her instagram is now filled with stories of how she hates men. Bla bla bla

Omo life moves on oooh. Me I just continue to post my hangouts with my guys and other girls. Life is too short to worry about one girl.

Funny enough I am sure she is waiting and she will give up and still chat me up again. If she does which she will……..

The birthday was part of my plan to put her on her place so she would know she has no value like before.

After learning about being the price. The way I Dey carry myself for women eh. It just works mehn, like magic.

Now!

I had to go back through your posts to find out the girl you spoke of.

You mean you went ahead to date that Girl? After she left her guy for you? And you're surprised she did the same to you.

Look, tattoo this in your mind. I've said this before and I'll say it again: The number 1 indicator of a woman's loyalty is if she has cheated in her previous relationships. NOT her virginity. Not her body count. NOT her submission

If she has cheated in her previous relationships, she is more than likely to cheat on you. It's even worse when you are the guy she cheated with. And now you dated her


Another thing to note, drama is done to spice up a relationship. You don't use drama to frame a relationship. Too much drama will cause her to panic and leave the relationship. You might be feeling yourself that she's getting angry and chasing you because of your drama UNTIL she leaves. And when she does, it's you that is to be blamed. And it's due to your poor relationship skills

There's nothing cool about boasting how you date a girl... you cluelessly stir up drama then when she leaves you say "another will come" you keep doing that then you end up with tons of exes. Tons of exes just shows a man who is bad at managing relationships and/or choosing women


Lastly, I don't get the point of your post. No point dating this girl. You wrongly dated her and you're using game tactics wrongly. Drama & mixed signals at this stage with her is overgaming. Yes, there's such a thing as over gaming or too much game, which is bad.

Because you ruin the balance.

Anyways... you're right about the last parts how carrying yourself as a king and the prize will make her see you that way.

As the saying goes... the world will treat you how you see yourself

adambeatz:
Nigeria is really a mess, men are really going through a lot,both married and single. One of my guys that got married 3 years ago is currently facing infidelity in his marriage. He lost his job as of 6 months back, was hell from then on in his home. His wife started giving attitude and when he confronted her she challenged him to his face, very embarrassing for someone who was financially buoyant back then but to fullfil his duties as a man is now a problem. His wife who he setup a side business for and got her a good paying job now talks to him anyhow. Guy man at times over hears his wife on phone with her family insulting him and she laughs about it. Last two weeks was when she slept off in the sitting room, he was about taking her inside the room when he saw her chat as the screen didn't lock. Guy man said he took his time and took screenshots and forwarded the voice notes with his wife's side piece. From then he locked up untill he landed a deal to supply materials to a Chinese company, he was paid 30% upfront but decided to keep quiet. He called us to go hangout some weeks back, when he was drunk he spilled what was going on in his home and how they still think he's broke but now that he's stable he doesn't want her to know what's up.

Everybody brought their ideas on how to handle it but I asked if he could forgive her, guy man swore that he can never forgive her in this life of the next, I told him the next step is simple, did you do court marriage, he said yes, told him to fake broke sell off everything sell what he can sell and cut her off, then after the divorce he can rub it in her face. My guy been a patient kind of guy bought the idea and is currently working on it, he bought a new car and keeps it's in a neighbours house for the mean time. If he wasn't capable on b*d it would have been a different thing buy guy man doesn't carry last in that department. Just wish him the best in going forward with that Jezebel.

You see that gender, when things are tough it takes an extraordinary woman to stick by you, I recently got one babe who is always billing me like mad, I was complying untill I reversed the game on her, honestly I expected her to fail but damn, she comes through for me like a guardian angel on standby, any avenue I would want to use to pin her down she doesn't argue and corrects herself sharply. Some ways she dresses I caution her, next time she readjusts herself. The babe no like long talks at all, still shit testing her to see but the babe just wants to chill and enjoy life without stress, every Friday she would buy drinks and food and drive down to my place so we can chill, when I realized it was a pattern I tried changing it but she quickly saw through it and explained why she pins me down Fridays due to insecurities in the country as Fridays are always days people go out to chill hence fights tends to break out in clubs and she is not someone that takes bad news lightly.

I've vetted from her friends who at first were beefing me cause they don't see her around but have no choice in the matter. The banny took me put to a party last Friday to hangout and most of the people there were her co workers and Friends, most of them have heard of me already. Still looking for ways to find a crack in her armor but till then let me chill and observe things. Stay safe guys

You guys still don't get it. Women DO NOT leave you because things are going bad for you. It goes against her biological wiring to leave a man simply because things are going bad for him.


Women leave you because of HOW YOU react AFTER things go bad for you. This is why I find pointless to test women (unless you're running low on time)

Life will test you in general. Women know this. And they're looking at HOW you act or respond when life tests you

If you lose your job or source of income and start acting like your world has finished... or start behaving like your self worth and confidence lies on that money... then you shouldn't be surprised why a woman will leave you.

Women value inner strength in a man. An unshakeable confidence that is largely unmoved by what life throws at them. When you complain, whine or act defeated due to life challenges... all she sees is a weak man. So she starts wondering if she made right choice.

And yes, all you did in the past won't matter as much as what you're doing now. Because Right now is the reality she understands.


Also... while trying to find a crack in armour... don't do something counter productive. Just focus on leadership and maintaining frame 80% of the time. And you'll be fine

heironymos:
Guys help me analyze this I'm in a dilemma...

I have 2 girls and don't know which one to choose.
Let me start with their similarities:

They both are nursing graduates which I love, and are both from good homes with strong medical backgrounds and both of them have very good feminine characteristics and values.

Strengths and flaws ( at this point I will label them girl A and girl B):
Girl A: came out with a first class degree in nursing and going for a second degree in medicine in the US (Mom is a doctor). she has found me a 150k job excluding bonuses but I've not started cos I'm still serving nysc and she buys me stuff she thinks will look good on me even a phone but she is Not a virgin based I vetted her past and found out she has a body count of two...1 relationship lasted 7yrs and she swore that she never even bleeped that one and the first one she bleeped with was ready to marry her but things fell apart... long story...
I tested her recently by using another Facebook profile to ask her out and she failed by accepting to go out with the fake profile... she beg me seriously after I sent her screenshots of the chats and she even went further to expose herself to my mom and sisters to show me how remorseful she was and pleaded for a second chance... because of her character I'm willing to give her a second chance but...
Girl B: is a college graduate of nursing( Dad is a doctor and owns a hospital) she claims to be a virgin and only wants her future husband to be the one to take her virginity... but she agreed to give in to me if I will be her future husband.... when it comes to food both girls have a wide array of culinary skills but girl B is more sophisticated.

On proximity:

Girl A lives in my city while Girl B lives far from my city... I met both on Facebook and girl A actually left my birth city where she also resided and came to the city where I was serving with her own transportation fare, shingbain I no spend just to see me for the first time, as for girl B I haven't met her in person but we have been on video calls and she is enamored by me... She already works as a nurse in her father's hospital and she will be coming to see me hopefully by October ending...
In terms of looks girl A is a plain Jane I'd rate her a 5 while I will rate girl B a 6.5...

So guys looking at all this criteria who do u think I should pick based on ur analysis...cos left to me I will pick both... but girl B is not open to me exploring other hoes while girl a is comfortable with it as long as she wears the title of main girl or wife...so at a point in time I will have to choose 1 who may that be it's really tough for me cos they are both good girls and adhere to my authority... I await ur comments... thanks.

None of these women genuinely like you.

Girl A is looking for marriage so she'll pretend to be the right girl for you. Giving you money, a job, buying gifts and more are just some of the things women will do in order to land a husband. Besides you already caught her falling for someone else (even though it's you)


For the second Girl B. Virginity should never be used as a bargaining chip for marriage in that way.

The decision to keep her virginity (if true) should come from both of you

Wait till you meet this one. And actually find out if she's a virgin

Timothykesh13:
Hello
I have been following this thread from the beginning and i have learned immensely from this forum so far so good.. Am greatful
But there is something troubling me recently, there is a girl am into in my uni here, we've met chatted and talked one or one.
Recently our conversation has been so chemical and am intending on asking her out via WhatsApp because i can't get access to her physically for the Time being

Although i don't really fancy out asking girls online as it makes me feel cowardly, but at the same Time i don't wanna snooze and loose this girl to another guy who has more game
Pls gent's what do you advice
Should i go ahead and shoot my shot on-line??

If you feel any sense of urgency about starting a relationship with a woman you have already lost bro. She is meant to feel that way not you.
Same way you don't expect her to have a sense of urgency about sleeping with you.
Because men control commitment, women control sex.

If you give your's away so freely you will look cheap. Same way if she is rushing you for sex she will look cheap.

I feel that you have already lost the game before it started. You have a scarcity mentality. I recommend you read the rational male by Rollo Tomassi.

If I was in your position I would call her and tell I want us to hang out or say there is an interesting place I just found out and I would like us to go there.

Now here is the important part. If she says she is not interested or gives an excuse without an alternative just leave her and approach other girls. If she is interested then half of the work is already done.

Personally my hangout location is in my place. Not every girl will agree but I don't care.

For you, you can set up a date. Don't pick a location where you guys will just sit and talk, like a restaurant. No, pick a location where you guys can do an activity and also talk. You are in school so there are plenty of places like that but preferably close to your house because you have to bring her to your place later on.

In fact you shouldn't even bring up relationship talk unless she brings it up herself which she will do after you guys kiss or hookup.

Rizzputin:


Yup cold approach is fun but hard for most people.

I enjoy it more. The thrill & adventures are exciting

Yeah I know it is. I struggle with it sometimes especially when I see an attractive girl in the night or I happen to be approaching her from behind but still it is my opinion that everyone here should make it a habit no matter what. Forget about rejection, you are building up your character.

In fact my first cold approach when i was 15 i was vibrating and I'm sure the girl could see it. It is okay to fail it gets better with time.
Once you are good at it to a certain level, approaching girls giving you choosing signal will be a breeze.

ElasmoBranchii:



If you feel any sense of urgency about starting a relationship with a woman you have already lost bro. She is meant to feel that way not you.
Same way you don't expect her to have a sense of urgency about sleeping with you.
Because men control commitment, women control sex.

If you give your's away so freely you will look cheap. Same way if she is rushing you for sex she will look cheap.

I feel that you have already lost the game before it started. You have a scarcity mentality. I recommend you read the rational male by Rollo Tomassi.

If I was in your position I would call her and tell I want us to hang out or say there is an interesting place I just found out and I would like us to go there.

Now here is the important part. If she says she is not interested or gives an excuse without an alternative just leave her and approach other girls. If she is interested then half of the work is already done.

Personally my hangout location is in my place. Not every girl will agree but I don't care.

For you, you can set up a date. Don't pick a location where you guys will just sit and talk, like a restaurant. No, pick a location where you guys can do an activity and also talk. You are in school so there are plenty of places like that but preferably close to your house because you have to bring her to your place later on.

In fact you shouldn't even bring up relationship talk unless she brings it up herself which she will do after you guys kiss or hookup.

Sir
I agree with you
Am still a novice in some aspects of relationship.

I feel am loosing though cause i have started having Little feelings for her

luminouz:

Chemical conversation 😳😳😳

Meaning there is chemistry in the conversation.. tho lately she has been leaving me on delivered..

Rizzputin:


If you've actually read this thread, you'd know asking a girl out is a BAD move whether offline or online. It's way worse online


You want to meet with her first then establish a sexual relationship with her before dating her

How can i go about that..
She looks like the type you can have sex with unless we are dating

Rizzputin:
You guys still don't get it. Women DO NOT leave you because things are going bad for you. It goes against her biological wiring to leave a man simply because things are going bad for him.


Women leave you because of HOW YOU react AFTER things go bad for you. This is why I find pointless to test women (unless you're running low on time)

Life will test you in general. Women know this. And they're looking at HOW you act or respond when life tests you

If you lose your job or source of income and start acting like your world has finished... or start behaving like your self worth and confidence lies on that money... then you shouldn't be surprised why a woman will leave you.

Women value inner strength in a man. An unshakeable confidence that is largely unmoved by what life throws at them. When you complain, whine or act defeated due to life challenges... all she sees is a weak man. So she starts wondering if she made right choice.

And yes, all you did in the past won't matter as much as what you're doing now. Because Right now is the reality she understands.

Also... while trying to find a crack in armour... don't do something counter productive. Just focus on leadership and maintaining frame 80% of the time. And you'll be fine

Standing ovation worthy comment.

Rizzputin:



You guys still don't get it. Women DO NOT leave you because things are going bad for you. It goes against her biological wiring to leave a man simply because things are going bad for him.


Women leave you because of HOW YOU react AFTER things go bad for you. This is why I find pointless to test women (unless you're running low on time)

Life will test you in general. Women know this. And they're looking at HOW you act or respond when life tests you

If you lose your job or source of income and start acting like your world has finished... or start behaving like your self worth and confidence lies on that money... then you shouldn't be surprised why a woman will leave you.

Women value inner strength in a man. An unshakeable confidence that is largely unmoved by what life throws at them. When you complain, whine or act defeated due to life challenges... all she sees is a weak man. So she starts wondering if she made right choice.

And yes, all you did in the past won't matter as much as what you're doing now. Because Right now is the reality she understands.


Also... while trying to find a crack in armour... don't do something counter productive. Just focus on leadership and maintaining frame 80% of the time. And you'll be fine

All the fucking confidence in the world won't work if you can't provide like the guy who quoted talked of. Especially when she now foots your bills. If you are lucky, she doesn't react and hopes you bounce back. If you are not, well, you'd learn that some women don't care about your struggles, or how you react to adversity. They see provider and non provider and that's it

luminouz:

All the fucking confidence in the world won't work if you can't provide like the guy who quoted talked of. Especially when she now foots your bills. If you are lucky, she doesn't react and hopes you bounce back. If you are not, well, you'd learn that some women don't care about your struggles, or how you react to adversity. They see provider and non provider and that's it

You both got a point lumi.

On the baseline,it depends on why she's with you in the first place.
Quite alright,we understand women want a provider, someone that'll do all the hardwork while they get the glory.
However, even cases when the man doesn't lose his wealth but ends up losing the woman is due to a very common factor.
"That which got her attracted to him is no more there" , there's no mystery, nothing left to discover about the guy.
When advertisy comes, it's a test of a man's strength and seeing a man be a man in the face of adversity turns her hot.
She would be very curious hence on the long stay the course while he's trying to pick himself back up.

A woman doesn't want and most definitely doesn't need another woman in a relationship with her.
She wants to feel like a woman,she wants a man she can throw all her baggages at and he won't shake.

On this forms the baseline as regards attraction on a natural scale.

Attraction born out of power/money is almost always superficial.
It never last,why because nothing beats natural.
Nature is a bitch,you can't cheat her, instead learn to fuvk her well so you can have your way(referring to nature )

All in all,if the man uses money to keep the relationship going or attract her,it won't last.
If it was born out of something natural, there's a possibility it might stand the test of time.

As usual, choose your poison wisely.

luminouz:
All the fucking confidence in the world won't work if you can't provide like the guy who quoted talked of. Especially when she now foots your bills. If you are lucky, she doesn't react and hopes you bounce back. If you are not, well, you'd learn that some women don't care about your struggles, or how you react to adversity. They see provider and non provider and that's it

Confidence won't work.
It is about providing.
Another version of the red pill.
We learn daily.

luminouz:

All the fucking confidence in the world won't work if you can't provide like the guy who quoted talked of. Especially when she now foots your bills. If you are lucky, she doesn't react and hopes you bounce back. If you are not, well, you'd learn that some women don't care about your struggles, or how you react to adversity. They see provider and non provider and that's it

Congrats. Your comment just made it into my list of most ignorant, shallow comments on this thread.

And this is part of the reason why red pill tends to be detrimental to men. It makes you put women into one sided boxes.

Btw, this is not a case of where we can have different opinions. What you said is completely stùpid. And shows you have little experience with how women think.

Now let me break down for you...

First, only gold diggers see men as provider or non provider. Unless you're a clown, why would you pick a gold digger as a wife?
There are many things men bring to a relationship that women appreciate men for. You sound clueless when you say women see men as provider or not. Those are for gold diggers


Second, women CARE about how you respond to adversity or challenges. Because safety is important to her and how you respond is a show of your strength. So it is important to women


Third, by confidence... I mean you continue how you were behaving before you were unable to provide.

You make the decisions like you used to. If you really have game, she'll even send part of her salary money to your account. In fact, you'll dictate how her money is spent.

I've seen this happen on different occasions. A woman spending and taking care of her man for two years till he bounced back. All that matters is how you conduct and lead that relationship



Fourth ... "if you're lucky" is the cry of a man without skill... luck plays some role but nothing compared or significant to how you conduct yourself

The problem with most men is they place their self worth on providing. Once they're unable to... they become a shadow of themselves. They start acting in ways that even shocks the woman

A once confident, vibrant man is now a shadow of himself because he doesn't have money: That is the reason why she starts thinking of leaving

Even if she's the one footing the bills.... You can't sit there and do nothing or act depressed. That's how you invite see finish

If you actually have game, she will even give you money to start things up

And lastly, everything depends on the frame. If you start and base a relationship on money or providing then that is your problem and your fault

There are way more effective ways to frame a relationship besides money.

Stop placing your self worth on money alone. Later you guys complain why women bill you when you're implying that is money what makes you

As the saying goes "who use money buy love no dey pay finish"

Rizzputin:


Congrats. Your comment just made it into my list of most ignorant, shallow comments on this thread.

And this is part of the reason why red pill tends to be detrimental to men. It makes you put women into one sided boxes.

Btw, this is not a case of where we can have different opinions. What you said is completely stùpid. And shows you have little experience with how women think.

Now let me break down for you...

First, only gold diggers see men as provider or non provider. Unless you're a clown, why would you pick a gold digger as a wife?
There are many things men bring to a relationship that women appreciate men for. You sound clueless when you say women see men as provider or not. Those are for gold diggers


Second, women CARE about how you respond to adversity or challenges. Because safety is important to her and how you respond is a show of your strength. So it is important to women


Third, by confidence... I mean you continue how you were behaving before you were unable to provide.

You make the decisions like you used to. If you really have game, she'll even send part of her salary money to your account. In fact, you'll dictate how her money is spent.

I've seen this happen on different occasions. A woman spending and taking care of her man for two years till he bounced back. All that matters is how you conduct and lead that relationship



Fourth ... "if you're lucky" is the cry of a man without skill... luck plays some role but nothing compared or significant to how you conduct yourself

The problem with most men is they place their self worth on providing. Once they're unable to... they become a shadow of themselves. They start acting in ways that even shocks the woman

A once confident, vibrant man is now a shadow of himself because he doesn't have money: That is the reason why she starts thinking of leaving

Even if she's the one footing the bills.... You can't sit there and do nothing or act depressed. That's how you invite see finish

If you actually have game, she will even give you money to start things up

And lastly, everything depends on the frame. If you start and base a relationship on money or providing then that is your problem and your fault

There are way more effective ways to frame a relationship besides money.

Stop placing your self worth on money alone. Later you guys complain why women bill you when you're implying that is money what makes you

As the saying goes "who use money buy love no dey pay finish"

K

Smartb0y:

You both got a point lumi.

On the baseline,it depends on why she's with you in the first place.
Quite alright,we understand women want a provider, someone that'll do all the hardwork while they get the glory.
However, even cases when the man doesn't lose his wealth but ends up losing the woman is due to a very common factor.
"That which got her attracted to him is no more there" , there's no mystery, nothing left to discover about the guy.
When advertisy comes, it's a test of a man's strength and seeing a man be a man in the face of adversity turns her hot.
She would be very curious hence on the long stay the course while he's trying to pick himself back up.

A woman doesn't want and most definitely doesn't need another woman in a relationship with her.
She wants to feel like a woman,she wants a man she can throw all her baggages at and he won't shake.

On this forms the baseline as regards attraction on a natural scale.

Attraction born out of power/money is almost always superficial.
It never last,why because nothing beats natural.
Nature is a bitch,you can't cheat her, instead learn to fuvk her well so you can have your way(referring to nature )

All in all,if the man uses money to keep the relationship going or attract her,it won't last.
If it was born out of something natural, there's a possibility it might stand the test of time.

As usual, choose your poison wisely.

You talk sense baba... Leave rizzputin and his epistles to the faithful. I am a man and my pills are bitter and based on real life events. and while it's attractive to be self confident , channel that shiit to getting results. Women may like how bold you are but keep coming home empty handed day after day and we will see just how attractive you still look to her. They want results and they live in the present. That's my angle. All your energy should be into getting things done. This phase may get easier if you are lucky to have a woman who understands you and is a bit tolerant. No woman will keep smiling and admiring your confidence after solely paying all the bills...for a month, a
year..5 years?? Women are not built to carry that load and while some may give you some lee-rope...don't kid yourself they will love it continue to do so.

I have a male neighbor who is now dead. He was a provider while back and the family was happy. He got a smaller paying job and all hell broke loose. I could still hear his wife shouting one night around 11pm 'You are
not bringing money home, and you wan Bleep? Which mumu nonsense oloriburuku Bleep be that? If you touch me, I go show you pepper. He came to me the next day and narrated his ordeal at the hands of his wife. But guess what? I told him to leave for a bit and go hustle so he can provide better ..but he said he loved his kids too much to leave them for so long. A month later, I was called into his room by his wife to help carry him to the hospital because he fainted...his BP was 220/110. He died after. Know what the wife said 'At least, he can now go and rest' about her own husband, a 42 year old man.

I can go on and on. The problem is many men believe women think like them and behave like them and so rationalize shiit and become surprised when their women behave anyhow. I am not. I know that gender and I always never let myself be caught lacking. They don't behave like men or reason like us.

They are cats!!!

luminouz:

You talk sense baba... Leave rizzputin and his epistles to the faithful. I am a man and my pills are bitter and based on real life events. and while it's attractive to be self confident , channel that shiit to getting results. Women may like how bold you are but keep coming home empty handed day after day and we will see just how attractive you still look to her. They want results and they live in the present. That's my angle. All your energy should be into getting things done. This phase may get easier if you are lucky to have a woman who understands you and is a bit tolerant. No woman will keep smiling and admiring your confidence after solely paying all the bills...for a month, a
year..5 years?? Women are not built to carry that load and while some may give you some lee-rope...don't kid yourself they will love it continue to do so.

I have a male neighbor who is now dead. He was a provider while back and the family was happy. He got a smaller paying job and all hell broke loose. I could still hear his wife shouting one night around 11pm 'You are
not bringing money home, and you wan Bleep? Which mumu nonsense oloriburuku Bleep be that? If you touch me, I go show you pepper. He came to me the next day and narrated his ordeal at the hands of his wife. But guess what? I told him to leave for a bit and go hustle so he can provide better ..but he said he loved his kids too much to leave them for so long. A month later, I was called into his room by his wife to help carry him to the hospital because he fainted...his BP was 220/110. He died after. Know what the wife said 'At least, he can now go and rest' about her own husband, a 42 year old man.

I can go on and on. The problem is many men believe women think like them and behave like them and so rationalize shiit and become surprised when their women behave anyhow. I am not. I know that gender and I always never let myself be caught lacking. They don't behave like men or reason like us.

They are cats!!!

100%

Indeed majority of the male gender take women literally.
You'll see a woman lie point blank about something ridiculous,yet the male gender out of sentiment will try to rationalize what doesn't make any sense hence end up even more confused.
And of course women will always support women no matter what.
They're way more organized than men.

The sisterhood is an organized crime.

Back to the matter anyways.
A man's dream should be his career,his breakthrough. Focusing all that energy on a woman is just him killing and inhibiting his potential for rapid and max growth.

According to that movie 3 idiot,
pursue excellence, success will follow.

Excellence being a man's goal, success being the after effect which includes women.
Your neighbor priotized his woman instead of the one thing that grants a man value - growth

Making a woman your goal is a recipe for disaster.

Man's greatest flaw is the sentiment he has for a woman.

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Okay yeah guys so I have decided to create a thread dedicated to cold approach. The thread will just act as a journal for you to document your cold approaches. Also on the thread we might host challenges like 30-day challenges etc. I feel this will help more people and this will also help me.

Now the thread is not and will not be about game (or who has the most game) or pick-up lines (if you want to use pick-up lines that's fine too)

The goal of the thread is for you to just approach someone (preferably a very attractive girl) and document how it went. That's all.

If you feel you also need to document where you feel you can work on or what went wrong, feel free to do so.

On the thread I'll share some tips/videos that helps me get out of my head and just approach. Other guys can chip in.

I'll create it when I get the time. So wait for my update

Smartb0y:

100%

Indeed majority of the male gender take women literally.
You'll see a woman lie point blank about something ridiculous,yet the male gender out of sentiment will try to rationalize what doesn't make any sense hence end up even more confused.
And of course women will always support women no matter what.
They're way more organized than men.

The sisterhood is an organized crime.

Back to the matter anyways.
A man's dream should be his career,his breakthrough. Focusing all that energy on a woman is just him killing and inhibiting his potential for rapid and max growth.

According to that movie 3 idiot,
pursue excellence, success will follow.

Excellence being a man's goal, success being the after effect which includes women.
Your neighbor priotized his woman instead of the one thing that grants a man value - growth

Making a woman your goal is a recipe for disaster.

Man's greatest flaw is the sentiment he has for a woman.

💯

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luminouz:

All the fucking confidence in the world won't work if you can't provide like the guy who quoted talked of. Especially when she now foots your bills. If you are lucky, she doesn't react and hopes you bounce back. If you are not, well, you'd learn that some women don't care about your struggles, or how you react to adversity. They see provider and non provider and that's it

What modern women primarily care for are RESULTS.

Female empowerment, social media and individualism have taken hypergamy to new highs. Briffault law is real. Confidence while going through the trials of life is absolutely necessary but it wont keep her if you do not get yourself together real fast.

Keeping a woman is about loyalty and commitment not just relationship and sex.

Your struggles, the tales of your struggles and how you are navigating through them, with confidence or not, means little or nothing to your woman. Keep them to yourself if you can. This shit is real. Learn, grow and overcome.

Redpill is here to make your life easier as a man.

You learn the type of women that are worth your time.

You learn that some sacrifices are not necessary

You learn that by default she cares about you, just to the extent to which your presence and influence in her life makes her life better.

Rizzputin:


Congrats. Your comment just made it into my list of most ignorant, shallow comments on this thread.

And this is part of the reason why red pill tends to be detrimental to men. It makes you put women into one sided boxes.

Btw, this is not a case of where we can have different opinions. What you said is completely stùpid. And shows you have little experience with how women think.

Now let me break down for you...

First, only gold diggers see men as provider or non provider. Unless you're a clown, why would you pick a gold digger as a wife?
There are many things men bring to a relationship that women appreciate men for. You sound clueless when you say women see men as provider or not. Those are for gold diggers


Second, women CARE about how you respond to adversity or challenges. Because safety is important to her and how you respond is a show of your strength. So it is important to women


Third, by confidence... I mean you continue how you were behaving before you were unable to provide.

You make the decisions like you used to. If you really have game, she'll even send part of her salary money to your account. In fact, you'll dictate how her money is spent.

I've seen this happen on different occasions. A woman spending and taking care of her man for two years till he bounced back. All that matters is how you conduct and lead that relationship



Fourth ... "if you're lucky" is the cry of a man without skill... luck plays some role but nothing compared or significant to how you conduct yourself

The problem with most men is they place their self worth on providing. Once they're unable to... they become a shadow of themselves. They start acting in ways that even shocks the woman

A once confident, vibrant man is now a shadow of himself because he doesn't have money: That is the reason why she starts thinking of leaving

Even if she's the one footing the bills.... You can't sit there and do nothing or act depressed. That's how you invite see finish

If you actually have game, she will even give you money to start things up

And lastly, everything depends on the frame. If you start and base a relationship on money or providing then that is your problem and your fault

There are way more effective ways to frame a relationship besides money.

Stop placing your self worth on money alone. Later you guys complain why women bill you when you're implying that is money what makes you

As the saying goes "who use money buy love no dey pay finish"

Most of you give opinions based on what you've heard, seen or read somewhere, I'm sure a large number of you are not even practical with the advise you dish out on this forum.....
Wait til you find yourself in that situation, then come and tell us your experience.