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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by stuffs4me(m): 8:20am On Sep 20
airsaylongcome:


That Seaman is a warrior! Outnumbered and outgunned, he still refused to surrender his rifle. That's how warriors are built.

No wonder he was locked up for 6 years and even lost his sanity like a warrior. He would face court martial like a warrior.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:24am On Sep 20
Thinkfree:
That was never a parade, but a joint operation which comprises of army, navy police and civil defence but the C.O who is an army want to intimidate the special naval force by commanding his illiterate army Boy to disarm him which he protested.
This can never happened to any airforce personnel because the big boys there will protect their own from the wicked army.

It doesn't matter what brigade you are from even under JTO a CO is a CO.

Even if mah only one tank he take senior you even if you started at same rank and he has been promoted to be CO of that particular formation at that moment. he instructs you to do A you do A to his satisfaction and append Sir at the end of your sentence.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by crossbreedwears(m): 8:29am On Sep 20
And he will be jailed. I forgot to include that!
Afrojuju2017:


Dismissed from service is the least of his problems, he discharged his weapon unlawfully and risked the safety of many, he also refused to obey the instructions of a C/O

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 8:29am On Sep 20
Ojiofor:


Those who are trying to disarm him by force did they follow due process?
Which one is due process?due military has an SOP on disarmament?

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by chccho(m): 8:30am On Sep 20
PastorFire:



Please watch the video again. The CO did not ordered that he should be disarmed. He said.. "Move him to the guardroom" and the erring soldier was shouting back at him.. "Who are you".. He even went in circles back to the CO.. It was a clear case of insubordination and mutiny because he attempted to fire the CO out of anger.
Firstly, the appropriate word in your sentence there is "order" "not ordered" its important you learn use of words/English appropriately.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:30am On Sep 20
PastorFire:


Just like someone said, it was a joint operation. Abbas wasn't going to take orders from an army personal. If they had fired him, his naval colleagues would have drawn their weapon and there will be a bloodbath there.


Where you dey read this nonsense. Is NDA restricted to army , so therefore your superior is your superior.
Abeg can a naval officer day because General Lagbaja is army he wouldn't answer him because he is special ops and can only answer the CDS or his brigade commander.
This seaman don but wahala end of story even if that army commander was wrong and didn't follow due process it not the duty of a seaman to tell him that, his only duty is to be instructed by the CO standing in front of him.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Dumfrank(m): 8:30am On Sep 20
The military has protocols in place to disarm a fellow soldier who is experiencing a mental health crisis or is acting in a threatening manner. The goal is to de-escalate the situation and ensure the safety of all individuals involved. Here are some steps that may be taken:

1. *Verbal de-escalation techniques*: Trained personnel will try to calm the individual down through communication, active listening, and empathy.
2. *Non-confrontational approach*: Approaching the individual in a non-threatening manner, using open and calm body language.
3. *Redirection*: Redirecting the individual's attention away from the weapon or the source of the conflict.
4. *Physical restraint*: If necessary, using minimal physical force to restrain the individual, while ensuring their safety and the safety of others.
5. *Weapon removal*: Carefully removing the weapon from the individual's possession.
6. *Support and resources*: Providing the individual with support and resources, such as mental health services or counseling.

It's important to note that these protocols may vary depending on the specific situation and the military branch. The primary goal is to prioritize safety and well-being while de-escalating the situation.... Copied.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by malvisguy212: 8:33am On Sep 20
Afrojuju2017:


That is not true, he must return the riffle to the authority of the commanding officer who then becomes responsible for the care of that firearm.

Especially when it was done in public glare it's not like the commander tried to disarm him in a private environment.
no sir. Look it up.

Do you know the reason why the army did not court Marshall him ? Because he did not sign off his riffle, if he signed off and disobey order , then he is at fault. But if he did not sign off, you cannot collect his riffle.

What if the officer is a underground agent who is working for terrorist? So he can just order for the return of his soldiers riffle ?

No sir, the officer is wrong and the Abbas is right!!
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 8:36am On Sep 20
hamzeiy:
The weapon of a soldier is like an appendage attached to his hand, trying to disarm a soldier on active duty without due process was unprofessional of the senior officer.
He is trained to react like that if anyone tries to disarm him...
Tell us d due process na
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 8:38am On Sep 20
malvisguy212:
No, that is not the due process. Even if the commander order him to return the riffle and he did not sign off , he cannot return the riffle. First he must signed off before he can return the riffle.

The guy is not wrong!!
Obey before complain

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by AmalaAtiEwedu: 8:38am On Sep 20
Thinkfree:
na it was a joint operation, but the army officer wanted to tell the police, civil defence,and navy that he is superior but the special naval officer thought him how things are done in a special operation... the naval big boys actually forsook their own. This cannot happen to an airforce special force because his superior will help him out of the mess triggered by the army idiots
but was there a chain of command in the JTF or not.?
answer. grin

racoon pls come and teach this man something about the armed forces regarding jtf grin

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by naniawini(f): 8:42am On Sep 20
AuschwitzPrefec:
Watched the video .

Resisting an arrest order by an officer

Refusing to be disarmed by his fellow soldiers .


Firing his weapon sporadically


He's even lucky that one of his own didn't open fire on him.

If this was the US military he would have since been gunned down.

The guy court martial counts go plenty.

1. Resisting a lawful order by a Senior officer to be disarmed.

2. Resisting arrest.

3. Attempted murder . As long as he pulled that trigger even if not targeting anyone he will be charged for attempted murder.

4. Unlawful possession of military firearm. As he refused to be disarmed and kept hold of his weapon despite an order to hand it over, he has committed a grave crime of possessing military weapon without authorization.

5. Insurbordination

6. Mutiny charges will be slammed on him from all the above charges . This carries a death sentence.

The only heroes here are his fellow Seamen who did everything to disarm him without resorting to deadly force .



then you don't know anything about military. You don't disarm a soldier. You ask him to submit his gun at the armoury. And report himself to the guard room. I feel for him already because this zoo don't have due process.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 8:43am On Sep 20
Funkyswagzz:


Can't you see the way they rushed his gun. If it was you won't you feel threatened. The gun belongs to him why take take it by force without due process
The gun belong to the navy

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by malvisguy212: 8:44am On Sep 20
bizzibodi:

Obey before complain
believe me, if he obey, they will dismiss him.

You don't understand. The army is like a cult group.

If he did not sign off, not even the COAS has the right to collect his riffle. Only the President.

Just face it, the Nigeria army is a useless set of people, stop defending them please.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Sermwell(m): 8:44am On Sep 20
wahalawahala:
another disguising illiterate Okoro... Denying your tribe to pass a stupid message is the definition of inferiority complex .... inferior being 😹
Everybody is igbo in your head na cheesy cheesy

Can't you see you're going crazy! grin cheesy

I don't think any igbo will deny being one from the confidence they display here!

They have put so much insecurity in you guys to the extent that anybody who is not yoruba or Hausa is igbo cheesy cheesy

You're the ones making igbos feel so proud wink cheesy wink
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by stuffs4me(m): 8:46am On Sep 20
PastorFire:


Just like someone said, it was a joint operation. Abbas wasn't going to take orders from an army personal. If they had fired him, his naval colleagues would have drawn their weapon and there will be a bloodbath there.


You must have been watching too army Indian movies.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Pluto33: 8:46am On Sep 20
wahalawahala:
ask your father
Your father said you are not.. cry
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by wahalawahala: 8:54am On Sep 20
Sermwell:

Everybody is igbo in your head na cheesy cheesy

Can't you see you're going crazy! grin cheesy

I don't think any igbo will deny being one from the confidence they display here!

They have put so much insecurity in you guys to the extent that anybody who is not yoruba or Hausa is igbo cheesy cheesy

You're the ones making igbos feel so proud wink cheesy wink
inferior Okoro i no get time to read your useless epistle
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 8:54am On Sep 20
Coolingeffect:
Gallant soldier. I should give him an award. No trained soldier should allow his weapon to be seized anyhow. It's a rule of military drill. There is are procedures to it.
It only apply if enemy attempt to seize your weapon not a direct order from your CO to submit your weapon:In military it is obey before complain!
In war you don't even shot if d enemy is about to stepped on your nose until your CO give d order to fire🔥 anything contrary is disobedience to order.which is mutiny.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Funkyswagzz(m): 8:55am On Sep 20
StJasper:


Are you alright?

Feels threatened by who?

Do you know anything about the military laws?

So in a military law they say anybody's gun can be taken by force?
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by josite: 9:08am On Sep 20
The way the disarming went,more persons could have ended up dead so there must be beta ways to disarm a mad soldier ,even if he is mad .
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:08am On Sep 20
Thinkfree:
na it was a joint operation, but the army officer wanted to tell the police, civil defence,and navy that he is superior but the special naval officer thought him how things are done in a special operation... the naval big boys actually forsook there own. This cannot happen to an airforce special force because his superior will help him out of the mess triggered by the army idiots
That's is indiscipline in a joint operations any appointed CO is Co to everyone.

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:21am On Sep 20
ajerimitan:
Any military personnel in uniform who is not well armed is half dead already. A well trained military man will never surrender his weapons without counting the cost. Not even at the command of a superior officer. It’s suicide. The law is kill until you are killed. He will easily risk a bullet to his head or straight to his heart than surrender his weapon
In military you don't shoot until you are ordered to shoot... everything na order ooo!

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by kingxsamz(m): 9:22am On Sep 20
efemena5050:
All these arrogant new generation children that have disregard for rules and regulations....do I blame them? No the old generation are the cause of this .....but how.....do u Know today ,parents no longer flog or discipline their children....even those stupid private schools no longer flog or discipline children.....now wat u have are lazy entitlement kids growing up without recourse to discipline....... Those rounds he wasted without any authorization will finally see to his dismissal from the job cuz the military prefare u to die than to waste their ammunition......no reason can be submitted for the justification of his foolish act of display.....this guy will be a forgotten or wasted episode soon.........let's assume he had some issues with those overbearing officers that shouldn't hv been an obvious reasons for putting the lives of his enemy and that of his colleagues at risk.......

So his reaction to being disarmed is because his parents did not flog him during childhood? undecided You're not bright at all, because you'll tell me what the correlation is in beating up a child and the behaviour of an army personnel who has received far more strict training. You people just type anything on here.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:27am On Sep 20
malvisguy212:
you know next to nothing. If the soldier did not sign off, even the chief of army staff cannot collect his riffle, the only person that can collect his riffle is the president (tinubu) . Riffle is more important than a soldier life in the army.

If a soldier die , the first thing the military ask is his riffle because they believe that is the only way to get revenge.
Rifles wey bandits,BH dey collect,did you watch d video where bandits loots free weapons from 2 APCs before burning it?why did they not stood their ground & defend their weapons.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:29am On Sep 20
Pearl1910:


As if he is d only one with a gun there.
In the absence of Military Police, ur CO can give u a direct order to drop your arms, and if u refuse to obey he can command other soldiers to enforce the order.
Yes in military,in d absence of officer in- charge the next senior takes over responsibility.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by bizzibodi(m): 9:30am On Sep 20
Harrisonwo:


The C.O. gave an instruction, it's for the men to call MP to disarm and detain him. But him releasing those shots was wrong all the same.
Call MP from where?no mp there.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Dearlord(m): 9:33am On Sep 20
Thinkfree:
it was not unprofessional he did the right thing to protect his riffle from the wicked army officer and his boys. He was there because it was a joint operation.
Both of them I mean
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Hassanmaye(m): 9:35am On Sep 20
Gbadugbakun:

All uniforms personnel in Nigeria are psychos.
What is this! Are you serious?? I have been talking to some of my military friends they sound normal
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by malvisguy212: 9:36am On Sep 20
bizzibodi:

Rifles wey bandits,BH dey collect,did you watch d video where bandits loots free weapons from 2 APCs before burning it?why did they not stood their ground & defend their weapons.
what an irony!! And you are here defending the Nigeria army . Why dindt the army go hard on the bandits for using the army riffle ? Instead they are punishing an innocent soldier.
Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Hassanmaye(m): 9:36am On Sep 20
gfelo:
You know nothing about military ethics, itz unlawful to disarm a military personnel who is calm like shown in the video, infact they are lucky if truly he is a psych many of them would have fear dead

You are right, how can you disarm a soldier, is a taboo

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Re: Navy Personnel, Seaman Abbas Detained Because Of This Video by Hassanmaye(m): 9:37am On Sep 20
Osanoghodua1:
He should have just killed himself or kill his colleague and commit suicide than rebel. Rebellion is an unforgiven sin.
In military?? How can you disarm a soldier 🪖

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