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Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 6:06am On Sep 21
budaatum:


Yes, I already have And you said it was good.

One must start by educating oneself, for only then can one educate others.

I was referring to your kind gesture, because I don't see how that story stops the very same man from rigging election in your area with thugs using guns and machetes on you and the people...
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:12am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


I was referring to your kind gesture, because I don't see how that story stops the very same man from rigging election in your area with thugs using guns and machetes on you and the people...

Hopefully, I don't need to start trying to convince you that books in libraries contribute to the education of people, which does help people make the right choices.

No one rigged any election in my area with thugs and machetes. Some tried, but we elected a PDP governor because we had educated ourselves on what might be better for us, though it could be argued it isn't.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 7:15am On Sep 21
budaatum:


Hopefully, I don't need to start trying to convince you that books in libraries contribute to the education of people, which does help people make the right choices.

No one rigged any election in my area with thugs and machetes. Some tried, but we elected a PDP governor because we had educated ourselves on what might be better for us, though it could be argued it isn't.


And how is your state doing now?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:18am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:



Well, that one is your problem...

No, Brendaniel, that one is not my problem.

Its like rain. When the pain starts I will not be the only one crying ebi npá wa because bad and non-caring politicians are in power.

Its after all not like I am buying my petrol for ₦2000 when everyone else is getting theirs for ₦200. And I don't rely on minimum wage.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 7:20am On Sep 21
budaatum:


No, Brendaniel, that one is not my problem.

Its like rain. When the pain starts I will not be the only one crying ebi npá wa because bad and non-caring politicians are in power.

Its after all not like I am buying my petrol for ₦2000 when everyone else is getting theirs for ₦200. And I don't rely on minimum wage.

In present day Nigeria, it is almost like everyone has to handle his problem by himself...
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:21am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


And how is your state doing now?

Like every other state. We are after all facing a Nigerian problem, and not just any state's or persons sole problem here.

Its why I said it's not about your one vote, but about democracy. Until we learn to protect our democracy and its process, we whall all continue to suffer the consequences of our bad choices.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 7:23am On Sep 21
budaatum:


Like every other state. We are after all facing a Nigerian problem, and not just any state's or persons sole problem here.

Its why I said it's not about your one vote, but about democracy. Until we learn to protect our democracy and its process, we whall all continue to suffer the consequences of our bad choices.

So are you saying all your efforts and those around you are in vain?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:23am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


In present day Nigeria, it is almost like everyone has to handle his problem by himself...

Well, that does depend on what the problem is.

It is every persons responsibility to cure themself of ignorance by educating themselves so they make the right choices. And if everyone educates themself, we shall collectively make the right choices and improve our collective communities.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 7:27am On Sep 21
budaatum:


Well, that does depend on what the problem is.

[b]It is every persons responsibility to cure themself of ignorance by educating themselves so they make the right choices. [/b]And if everyone educates themself, we shall collectively make the right choices and improve our collective communities.


And how do you get the people to do this?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:33am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


So are you saying all your efforts and those around you are in vain?

No. I am not saying all my efforts and those around me are in vain

Rome, they say, was not built in a day, so I don't expect all my efforts and those around me to produce instant results.

Story.
One day, 10 years after the first of 3 of my donations of books to my local government library, a one year old child who could barely speak was humming "abcd, efg. hijk, lmnopq", and that was the first result I had seen from my efforts.

I expect all my efforts to produce results long after I am dead since Nigerians are stubborn and would rather claim the elections were rigged when the truth is they never bothered to vote.

Suffering will teach people to become responsible, or their suffering will increase until we learn, or die.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:39am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


And how do you get the people to do this?

How do I get every person to be responsible for curing themself of ignorance by educating themselves?

Now that's a funny question indeed. I'm telling people to be responsible for curing their own ignorance, and your question is, how do I do this, lol. But I'll answer you all the same.

By talking to people like you until you learn or until I decide you are a lost cause and move on to people who are willing to be responsible instead of irresponsibly blaming others.

Good thing is, my effort is not in vain. For while some might not see sense in my effort, you aren't the only one reading my effort.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 7:52am On Sep 21
budaatum:


No. I am not saying all my efforts and those around me are in vain

Rome, they say, was not built in a day, so I don't expect all my efforts and those around me to produce instant results.

Story.
One day, 10 years after the first of 3 of my donations of books to my local government library, a one year old child who could barely speak was humming "abcd, efg. hijk, lmnopq", and that was the first result I had seen from my efforts.

I expect all my efforts to produce results long after I am dead since Nigerians are stubborn and would rather claim the elections were rigged when the truth is they never bothered to vote.

Suffering will teach people to become responsible, or their suffering will increase until we learn, or die.

So what was the effect of your input, can you highlight it?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:54am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


So what was the effect of your input, can you highlight it?

People had books to read. People had a library to read books in (I paid for it to be open).

Some have claimed the library is what has helped them be the success they are.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 7:56am On Sep 21
budaatum:


People had books to read. People had a library to read books in (I paid for it to be open).

Some have claimed the library is what has helped them be the success they are.

Good, but we are talking about the political leadership here...
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:00am On Sep 21
budaatum:


How do I get every person to be responsible for curing themself of ignorance by educating themselves?

Now that's a funny question indeed. I'm telling people to be responsible for curing their own ignorance, and your question is, how do I do this, lol. But I'll answer you all the same.

By talking to people like you until you learn or until I decide you are a lost cause and move on to people who are willing to be responsible instead of irresponsibly blaming others.

Good thing is, my effort is not in vain. For while some might not see sense in my effort, you aren't the only one reading my effort.

And how many people can you do it to at a time, let's assume you are the only one with this mindset in Nigeria, I mean how do you educate the remaining over 220 million Nigerians?

Because in the north alone you have over 10 million Almajiris who are not educated, how do you achieve educating them about your idea?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:06am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


Good, but we are talking about the political leadership here...

Education has an effect on political leadership.

Educated leaders lead better. And an educated electorate choose better leaders.

And no, i don't mean educated like you'd think, knowing you'd likely point out our leaders are educated with degrees. I mean the education that gives proper understanding and teaches people to use their own senses to reason and solve problems.

If the voting people have proper understanding and can solve problems, they'd elect the right people and no one would steal their votes.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:09am On Sep 21
budaatum:


Education has an effect on political leadership.

Educated leaders lead better. And an educated electorate choose better leaders.

And no, i don't mean educated like you'd think, knowing you'd likely point out our leaders are educated with degrees. I mean the education that gives proper understanding and teaches people to use their own senses to reason and solve problems.

If the voting people have proper understanding and can solve problems, they'd elect the right people and no one would steal their votes.

So if a politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure voters to vote in his Favour, what should the voters do?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:22am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


And how many people can you do it to at a time, let's assume you are the only one with this mindset in Nigeria, I mean how do you educate the remaining over 220 million Nigerians?

Because in the north alone you have over 10 million Almajiris who are not educated, how do you achieve educating them about your idea?

I am not responsible for 10 million Almajiris or 220 million Nigerians, Brendaniel. I'm not even responsible for the about 100k people in my own local community. Some of them cursed me for bringing books and asked me to just give them the money, as if na me born them!

Every Nigerian is responsible for educating themselves to choose the right leaders just as every Nigerian bears their own suffer for us all choosing the wrong leaders.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:26am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


So if a politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure voters to vote in his Favour, what should the voters do?

Resist the pressure of course. Unless you want to increase the pressure when he wins and then mounts corruption and ineptitude on you.

But don't be facetious. No "politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure voters to vote in his Favour". I did not see Tinubu in Aba!
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:27am On Sep 21
budaatum:


I am not responsible for 10 million Almajiris or 220 million Nigerians, Brendaniel. I'm not even responsible for the about 100k people in my own local community. Some of them cursed me for bringing books and asked me to just give them the money, as if na me born them!

Every Nigerian is responsible for educating themselves to choose the right leaders just as every Nigerian bears their own suffer for us all choosing the wrong leaders.

So that means you are saying that your solution is not guaranteed to work?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:28am On Sep 21
budaatum:


Resist the pressure of course. Unless you want to increase the pressure when he wins and then mounts corruption and ineptitude on you.

But don't be facetious. No "politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure voters to vote in his Favour". I did not see Tinubu in Aba!

But they did, port harcort, Edo, Lagos and so on, they even killed some voters....

So are you saying the voters should fight them with their guns ?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Lipscomb(m): 8:30am On Sep 21
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Biodun556:
Tinubu should do something about this
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:31am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


So that means you are saying that your solution is not guaranteed to work?

No single solution is guaranteed to work on the topic being discussed here!

That's why no one is suggesting only one solution but many various ones. And that's why everyone should do their bit instead of just giving up and not even bothering to vote.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:34am On Sep 21
budaatum:


No single solution is guaranteed to work on the topic being discussed here!

That's why no one is suggesting only one solution but many various ones. And that's why everyone should do their bit instead of just giving up and not even bothering to vote.


But you have already given up that it is not your responsibility to educate anybody ?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:37am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


But they did, port harcort, Edo, Lagos and so on, they even killed some voters....

So are you saying the voters should fight them with their guns ?

No politician brought thugs, police and guns to pressure voters to vote in his Favour, but if you have evidence they did, please provide it.

But even if some did you've answered your own question. Those you claim they even killed must have resisted, and that's what any reasonable person would do, I'd think, though perhaps I shouldn't presume.

Brendaniel, what would you do if politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure you to vote in his Favour"?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:40am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


But you have already given up that it is not your responsibility to educate anybody ?

I am educating you here. It is still however not my responsibility to educate you.

Its about you learning, which you are responsible for.
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:42am On Sep 21
budaatum:


No politician brought thugs, police and guns to pressure voters to vote in his Favour, but if you have evidence they did, please provide it.

But even if some did you've answered your own question. Those you claim they even killed must have resisted, and that's what any reasonable person would do, I'd think, though perhaps I shouldn't presume.

Brendaniel, what would you do if politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure you to vote in his Favour"?


So are you saying voters can die because they want to vote?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:44am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


So are you saying voters can die because they want to vote?

It is you who sad voters died! I just assumed those who died refused to be forced.

Brendaniel, what would you do if politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure you to vote in his Favour"?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:46am On Sep 21
budaatum:


I am educating you here. It is still however not my responsibility to educate you.

Its about you learning, which you are responsible for.


So how do you let all Nigerians who may not know to know that they are responsible for their learning?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by Brendaniel: 8:48am On Sep 21
budaatum:


It is you who sad voters died! I just assumed those who died refused to be forced.

Brendaniel, what would you do if politician brings thugs, police and guns to pressure you to vote in his Favour"?

No, we didn't die...

If a politician does that in my area during election, I will go back to my house...
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:55am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:


No, we didn't die...

If a politician does that in my area during election, I will go back to my house...

And that's what I suppose some others will do too, while some will obviously fight and some will die. And some will gather evidence and go and contest the election in court.

Politician can't after all bring thugs, police and guns to pressure you to vote in his Favour and pressure INEC and pressure other parties too without there being evidence.

Or do you think the politician who did not bring thugs, police and guns to pressure you to vote in his Favour will just go home too?
Re: Tax; OPEC Reveals Reasons Why dangote Petrol Is Costly In Nigeria by budaatum: 8:58am On Sep 21
Brendaniel:



So how do you let all Nigerians who may not know to know that they are responsible for their learning?

It is not my responsibility to tell all Nigerians, but I am telling you here.

Be responsible for your learning!

Now you know. And that's one less Nigerian who doesn't know.

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