https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt78z5nxNIc




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B8-eBpOwro





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MTgtKHOJQ8

Where's the surprise there?

That divide and conquer tactics has cleared from a lot of people's eyes as both the people claiming they are not Igbo and the people that agree they are Igbo are suffering the same bad governance.

Same bad roads
Same poor electricity
Same insecurity
Same inflation
Same high cost of living
Same poor conditions of service
Same polluted environments
Same disorganised societies

Nobody cares what they are anymore.

You carry politics mix with ethnicity, come dey deceive yourself.

Na you do you.

Never seen an ikwere fine man.

Take it or leave it.
The Ikwere's are not Igbo.
The Igbo came and corrupted their language and made it look like they speak Igbo language.
Is like saying the Onitsha people are Igbo.
The Onitsha people came from the ancient Benin empire.
Their ancestral home is still at Onuchu-Ugbo (pronounced Onitsha -Ugbo) is a town in Aniocha North in Delta state.
It was from there their early ancestors crossed the river Niger and settled in the island that is today called Onitsha.
Many of their elderly ones still have this history strong in their hearts.
Is like saying the Nupe man, or the Gbagyi man is an Hausa man.
The Hausa's through trade dominated and corrupted many languages in the ancient Northern NIGERIA.
Is so unfortunate our ancestors did not have any written history.
All this endless argument would have been laid to rest.

ogaemma:
Take it or leave it.
The Ikwere's are not Igbo.
The Igbo came and corrupted their language and made it look like they speak Igbo language.
Is like saying the Onitsha people are Igbo.
The Onitsha people came from the ancient Benin empire.
Their ancestral home is still at Onuchu-Ugbo (pronounced Onitsha -Ugbo) is a town in Aniocha North in Delta state.
It was from there their early ancestors crossed the river Niger and settled in the island that is today called Onitsha.
Many of their elderly ones still have this history strong in their hearts.
Is like saying the Nupe man, or the Gbagyi man is an Hausa man.
The Hausa's through trade dominated and corrupted many languages in the ancient Northern NIGERIA.
Is so unfortunate our ancestors did not have any written history.
All this endless argument would have been laid to rest.

An ikwerre man made a video and said he's Igbo, a nobody is telling him here he's not Igbo.

That's the extent of some people's foolishness

Enjoy your delusions while it lasts

Good for him
Who cares But it’s good he acknowledged his identity

Not surprising na... ikwerre are even more igbo than many igbo from the core 5 SE states

Discussion includes insights.

ogaemma:
Take it or leave it.
The Ikwere's are not Igbo.
The Igbo came and corrupted their language and made it look like they speak Igbo language.
Is like saying the Onitsha people are Igbo.
The Onitsha people came from the ancient Benin empire.
Their ancestral home is still at Onuchu-Ugbo (pronounced Onitsha -Ugbo) is a town in Aniocha North in Delta state.
It was from there their early ancestors crossed the river Niger and settled in the island that is today called Onitsha.
Many of their elderly ones still have this history strong in their hearts.
Is like saying the Nupe man, or the Gbagyi man is an Hausa man.
The Hausa's through trade dominated and corrupted many languages in the ancient Northern NIGERIA.
Is so unfortunate our ancestors did not have any written history.
All this endless argument would have been laid to rest.

You wrote Onitsha people came from "Onuchu-Ugbo". Now I ask you; is "Onuchu-Ugbo" a Bini town before or even today? Is "Onuchu-Ugbo" a Bini word? Does Bini language have the alphabet 'ch' in it?
You see, this is how to disprove criminals like you who go about revising history to soothe your jaundiced opinion.
Again, if Onitsha people are Benin people, who taught them the Igbo they were speaking at the time the Europeans came to Onitsha? Bear in mind that there's no single 'Onitsha in the whole Edo territory but many are found in different parts of Igboland.
Why did I even waste my time on someone that said Onitsha is on an Island?

So that single individual is the one to decide for over 5million Ikwerre people where they migrated from.
The Ikwerre Nation is nationally known as a distinct nation, it is an insult to call an Ikwerre Man Igbo.

vanbonattel:


An ikwerre man made a video and said he's Igbo, a nobody is telling him here he's not Igbo.

That's the extent of some people's foolishness

Enjoy your delusions while it lasts

This is serious. I hope the Land is not in dispute o.

Terabyteck:
So that single individual is the one to decide for over 5million Ikwerre people where they migrated from.
The Ikwerre Nation is nationally known as a distinct nation, it is an insult to call an Ikwerre Man Igbo.

So says an outsider trying to force an ikwerre man who told you he's Igbo to renounce his ancestry.

EreluRoz:
Never seen an ikwere fine man.

Your own na to check who fine and who no fine for Nairaland.

Igbos! This bastard called Chimenum is cashing out on you people. He has run away from Rumuewhor to SARS Road.
His mother had him as a bastard and came with him from Imo State when he married his Ikwerre father from Rumuewhor. His step-father had to change his name from Nwachukwu his original name to Chimenum. God did for me.
The same person has started causing problems in his adopted home and has been chased out.
Is it this nonentity that Igbos are listening to?
If you look at his face as a psychologist you will decipher the gaps in this guy reasoning.
Ikwerre people rejected Igbos identity before, during and after the war.
Other Rivers people know who are Ikwerres and who are Igbos.
Ikwerre people had never associated with with Igbos in any form let alone denying any other time.
Other tribes in Rivers State would have bore witness to this.

Yujin:

You wrote Onitsha people came from "Onuchu-Ugbo". Now I ask you; is "Onuchu-Ugbo" a Bini town before or even today? Is "Onuchu-Ugbo" a Bini word? Does Bini language have the alphabet 'ch' in it?
You see, this is how to disprove criminals like you who go about revising history to soothe your jaundiced opinion.
Again, if Onitsha people are Benin people, who taught them the Igbo they were speaking at the time the Europeans came to Onitsha? Bear in mind that there's no single 'Onitsha in the whole Edo territory but many are found in different parts of Igboland.
Why did I even waste my time on someone that said Onitsha is on an Island?

Sir,
I will not argue about this subject.
I have done my fact check in the ancient town of Onitsha way back 1997.
As part of this research I paid a visit to the palace of the then Obi of Onitsha.
I will advise you to also do your fact check and visit the Onitsha archive's in the Palace of the Obi of Onitsha.
About Onitsha being an Island, in case you don't know.
We have the Onitsha water-side and the Onitsha Inland. ( MBA road, Emmanuel Church Road, Awka road, Ugwunobamkpa. just to mention a few.)

Omagba and Nkpor are not in Onitsha.
https://onitshanorth.an.gov.ng

ogaemma:



Sir,
I will not argue about this subject.
I have done my fact check in the ancient town of Onitsha way back 1997.
As part of this research I paid a visit to the palace of the then Obi of Onitsha.
I will advise you to also do your fact check and visit the Onitsha archive's in the Palace of the Obi of Onitsha.
About Onitsha being an Island, in case you don't know.
We have the Onitsha water-side and the Onitsha Inland. ( MBA road, Emmanuel Church Road, Awka road, Ugwunobamkpa. just to mention a few.)

Omagba and Nkpor are not in Onitsha.
v.ng

Onitsha, an island?



Chai!

This one knocked me out

Please, let's stop responding to these outsiders who knows nothing about Igboland. Anyone who says Ezechima was a Benin Prince should tell us another person with a 'Chi' in their name in Benin empire.

Outsiders shouldn't describe what they don't know.

chrisxxx:
Igbos! This bastard called Chimenum is cashing out on you people. He has run away from Rumuewhor to SARS Road.
His mother had him as a bastard and came with him from Imo State when he married his Ikwerre father from Rumuewhor. His step-father had to change his name from Nwachukwu his original name to Chimenum. God did for me.
The same person has started causing problems in his adopted home and has been chased out.
Is it this nonentity that Igbos are listening to?
If you look at his face as a psychologist you will decipher the gaps in this guy reasoning.
Ikwerre people rejected Igbos identity before, during and after the war.
Other Rivers people know who are Ikwerres and who are Igbos.
Ikwerre people had never associated with with Igbos in any form let alone denying any other time.
Other tribes in Rivers State would have bore witness to this.

Have they also chased away former gov. Chibuike Amaechi from Ubima? What about Barrister Uche Okwukwu from Elele? Have they chased him away? As you can see, your stories don't add up.
Who killed Obi Wali? He was one of the greatest Ikwerre statesman. He identified as Igbo and worked to ensure Ikwerres were part of the larger Igbo nation. Till date, none of you can say who killed and desecrated his corpse. Your enemies have been trying to tie you down for long but you don't know. The few of your leaders who try to connect you back to your roots most of you back away from them. Look at Ikwerreland today. Are you proud of how it is? They have put you guys in fear and as long as you live in fear, you can't grow.
For a people whose land harbours a large and strategic city like PH, you should be heavy in international trade but you're not because you don't want to synergize with your brothers.
Ok, let's look at Rumuewhor-Odegu. Isn't it the same thing as Umuafor-Odoagu? Most Ikwerres use the alphabet 'e' in place of 'a' and 'wh' in place of 'h' or 'f' in other Igbo dialects. Other Igbo dialects say 'Ala, Ana, Ani, Ali' while Ikwerres say 'Eli'. Other Igbos say 'unu' for the plural pronoun 'you' while Ikwerres say 'anu'. These are just few examples that make Ikwerre just a dialect. In case you don't know, some other clans in the SE use similar words e.g 'wh' for 'h/f' and 'e' for 'a'. It's not exclusive to Ikwerre. If you doubt me, travel into the SE and ask questions. You'll see for yourself.
This Ikwerre denial of their Igboness is costing them too much. They're stuck in one place while those who want them to remain there are currying away the goodies that come to the region. It is you people losing out big time.

Nawa o

ogaemma:



Sir,
I will not argue about this subject.
I have done my fact check in the ancient town of Onitsha way back 1997.
As part of this research I paid a visit to the palace of the then Obi of Onitsha.
I will advise you to also do your fact check and visit the Onitsha archive's in the Palace of the Obi of Onitsha.
About Onitsha being an Island, in case you don't know.
We have the Onitsha water-side and the Onitsha Inland. ( MBA road, Emmanuel Church Road, Awka road, Ugwunobamkpa. just to mention a few.)

Omagba and Nkpor are not in Onitsha.
https://onitshanorth.an.gov.ng

I can't doubt that you're literate but I seriously doubt you're educated. Do you know what an Island is? Did you study geography in school?
Have you ever seen where Onitsha and an Island are joined as a compound word? Ok, is Asaba also an island? Asaba also have a waterside you know.

About Onitsha's migration from Benin, the story has always featured in their history however, it is just part of the story. Your excerpt clearly says 'an Igbo man named Ezechima'. Do Bini people bear that kind of a name? Are there any Edoid people that bear such a name? But the same name is borne all over Igboland.
Let me also call you out about your earlier goofing. You claimed they came from 'Onuchu-Ugbo'. How come you now changed it to Benin? I repeat; your education is seriously in doubt.
You have no single point because you're just desperate to disagree with anything about Igbos even when you know nothing about the subject.
I advice you to shut your mouth and move to another topic you know something about.

I've never seen where false identity are forced on people, it's only Ndigbo who always tend to do that.

Yujin:

Have they also chased away former gov. Chibuike Amaechi from Ubima? What about Barrister Uche Okwukwu from Elele? Have they chased him away? As you can see, your stories don't add up.
Who killed Obi Wali? He was one of the greatest Ikwerre statesman. He identified as Igbo and worked to ensure Ikwerres were part of the larger Igbo nation. Till date, none of you can say who killed and desecrated his corpse. Your enemies have been trying to tie you down for long but you don't know. The few of your leaders who try to connect you back to your roots most of you back away from them. Look at Ikwerreland today. Are you proud of how it is? They have put you guys in fear and as long as you live in fear, you can't grow.
For a people whose land harbours a large and strategic city like PH, you should be heavy in international trade but you're not because you don't want to synergize with your brothers.
Ok, let's look at Rumuewhor-Odegu. Isn't it the same thing as Umuafor-Odoagu? Most Ikwerres use the alphabet 'e' in place of 'a' and 'wh' in place of 'h' or 'f' in other Igbo dialects. Other Igbo dialects say 'Ala, Ana, Ani, Ali' while Ikwerres say 'Eli'. Other Igbos say 'unu' for the plural pronoun 'you' while Ikwerres say 'anu'. These are just few examples that make Ikwerre just a dialect. In case you don't know, some other clans in the SE use similar words e.g 'wh' for 'h/f' and 'e' for 'a'. It's not exclusive to Ikwerre. If you doubt me, travel into the SE and ask questions. You'll see for yourself.
This Ikwerre denial of their Igboness is costing them too much. They're stuck in one place while those who want them to remain there are currying away the goodies that come to the region. It is you people losing out big time.

If Ikwerres have five states and Igbos have just 4! LGA would you accept to be Ikwerre?
How did you know that you are Igbo? My grandfather knew about Igbos and never told me he was Igbo neither did he tell me I was. How you think I would drop who my grand father told me who I am for who you think I am dismantles all known reasoning and logics.
Are you saying the same Obi Wali whom we believed was murdered because of his fight for the minority rights? How could he be an Igbo man and be Fighting for minority rights?.
Chibuike Amaechi shouted down an Igbo man who called him a son of the Igbos. This is online. For clarity about where Amaechi comes from see what he told the Deji of Akure where he comes from when he visited him during his presidential campaign rounds.
https://thefact.ng/16709-2/
For Uche Okwukwu. He has Aro ancestry. So if he says he is Igbo he is right. We have Aros descendants in Ikwerre land. They are found in Isiokpo, Aluu and Elele where Uche Okwukwu presently comes from.
Even if our DNA says we are the same we.must establish who is the head. Who came first. Is Ikwerre Igbo or Igbo ikwerre? Don't mind the majority which you have as most times truth is not always established on what the majority has said.

Yujin:

I can't doubt that you're literate but I seriously doubt you're educated. Do you know what an Island is? Did you study geography in school?
Have you ever seen where Onitsha and an Island are joined as a compound word? Ok, is Asaba also an island? Asaba also have a waterside you know.

About Onitsha's migration from Benin, the story has always featured in their history however, it is just part of the story. Your excerpt clearly says 'an Igbo man named Ezechima'. Do Bini people bear that kind of a name? Are there any Edoid people that bear such a name? But the same name is borne all over Igboland.
Let me also call you out about your earlier goofing. You claimed they came from 'Onuchu-Ugbo'. How come you now changed it to Benin? I repeat; your education is seriously in doubt.
You have no single point because you're just desperate to disagree with anything about Igbos even when you know nothing about the subject.
I advice you to shut your mouth and move to another topic you know something about.

We argue and interact to learn.
But with the insulting content of your comments is obvious you are an Agbero that crashed his way into a noble platform like nairaland.
You don't learn by insult, you learn by constructive discuss.
You are not my class at all.
Is unfortunate how nairaland now have acidic illiterate like you in the platform.
Is either you don't have a brain at all or you left your brain at home.
The world would have been a better place if only your father knows the use of condom.
Change your way's and learn how to learn constructively and not by insult.
Or try and go back to school.
Good bye.

Terabyteck:
So that single individual is the one to decide for over 5million Ikwerre people where they migrated from.
The Ikwerre Nation is nationally known as a distinct nation, it is an insult to call an Ikwerre Man Igbo.

Ikwerre are 5 million? Lmaooo I thought it's 50 million

Ikwerre are not even the largest Igbo group in rivers state

Etche is way bigger than ikwerre abeg shift

MEEVEET:

Ikwerre are 5 million? Lmaooo I thought it's 50 million

Ikwerre are not even the largest Igbo group in rivers state

Etche is way bigger than ikwerre abeg shift

An Etche man would lynch you if you call him an Igbo man. They even prefer to be called ikwerre people. But ikwerre people know their boundaries and don't take what is not theirs.

chrisxxx:

An Etche man would lynch you if you call him an Igbo man. They even prefer to be called ikwerre people. But ikwerre people know their boundaries and don't take what is not theirs.

Is it the Etche that is called Igbo-etche and has villages in both Imo & rivers? Where cousins are separated by state boundaries? Deyplay

chrisxxx:

An Etche man would lynch you if you call him an Igbo man. They even prefer to be called ikwerre people. But ikwerre people know their boundaries and don't take what is not theirs.

Where do you think Amadioha shrine is?

Terabyteck:
So that single individual is the one to decide for over 5million Ikwerre people where they migrated from.
The Ikwerre Nation is nationally known as a distinct nation, it is an insult to call an Ikwerre Man Igbo.

I lived in Rivers state I can categorically tell you that Ikwerres are not indigenous to rivers state. The only reason you guys try so hard to disassociate from Igbo is because you want to lay claim to rivers and her crude oil which truly belongs to the ijaws. How can you say there's no relation with Igbo when your names have "chi" in them and your traditional rulers answer "igwe" or "eze" it's just like saying the Itsekiri & Bini have no relationship with the yorubas yet their traditional rulers are titled Oba. Just dey whine yourself

Yujin:

Have they also chased away former gov. Chibuike Amaechi from Ubima? What about Barrister Uche Okwukwu from Elele? Have they chased him away? As you can see, your stories don't add up.
Who killed Obi Wali? He was one of the greatest Ikwerre statesman. He identified as Igbo and worked to ensure Ikwerres were part of the larger Igbo nation. Till date, none of you can say who killed and desecrated his corpse. Your enemies have been trying to tie you down for long but you don't know. The few of your leaders who try to connect you back to your roots most of you back away from them. Look at Ikwerreland today. Are you proud of how it is? They have put you guys in fear and as long as you live in fear, you can't grow.
For a people whose land harbours a large and strategic city like PH, you should be heavy in international trade but you're not because you don't want to synergize with your brothers.
Ok, let's look at Rumuewhor-Odegu. Isn't it the same thing as Umuafor-Odoagu? Most Ikwerres use the alphabet 'e' in place of 'a' and 'wh' in place of 'h' or 'f' in other Igbo dialects. Other Igbo dialects say 'Ala, Ana, Ani, Ali' while Ikwerres say 'Eli'. Other Igbos say 'unu' for the plural pronoun 'you' while Ikwerres say 'anu'. These are just few examples that make Ikwerre just a dialect. In case you don't know, some other clans in the SE use similar words e.g 'wh' for 'h/f' and 'e' for 'a'. It's not exclusive to Ikwerre. If you doubt me, travel into the SE and ask questions. You'll see for yourself.
This Ikwerre denial of their Igboness is costing them too much. They're stuck in one place while those who want them to remain there are currying away the goodies that come to the region. It is you people losing out big time.

Bros, don’t waste your time with these people! The way they furiously try to limit Alaigbo to just the south-east should give a hint of their real intentions and fears! It’s likely a lot of them are not even from Rivers or Delta states, but can easily spend the whole day arguing that there are no Igbo in the aforementioned states! These are ‘one Nigerianists’ and Igbo-haters, and what drives them is pure greed, bigotry and a fear of having to live on their own! Envy also drives them in that assuming Nigeria disintegrates tomorrow, they would preoccupy their time trying to sabotage Ndigbo instead of facing their front and concerning themselves with their own new republic! They are cut from the same rag as those who have used their positions of authority in federal gov’t to undermine Igbo political, economic and territorial interests from 1967 till date, and don’t be surprised most of them are apostles of a certain political and ethnic persuasion! Ignore them!

ogaemma:


We argue and interact to learn.
But with the insulting content of your comments is obvious you are an Agbero that crashed his way into a noble platform like nairaland.
You don't learn by insult, you learn by constructive discuss.
You are not my class at all.
Is unfortunate how nairaland now have acidic illiterate like you in the platform.
Is either you don't have a brain at all or you left your brain at home.
The world would have been a better place if only your father knows the use of condom.
Change your way's and learn how to learn constructively and not by insult.
Or try and go back to school.
Good bye.

My comments had zero insult. Your poor education is showing itself again. All I have been stating is fact unlike you who came with history revisionism yet claiming he came to learn. When you come to learn, you don't use the phrase 'take it or leave it? Such phrases come only from the position of certainty.
I told you to 'shut up' which isn't an insult but a command word. I was right to tell you because the more you 'talk' the more you goof. Here you are involving my father when he has nothing to do with our exchange. You went ahead to call me an 'agbero' which means a tout when I didn't insult you by any bit. You ended up calling me 'an acidic illiterate' when you can clearly see that I can read and write. As for being acidic, it's subjective because it depends on your perception not mine. I can be acidic if I want especially if the situation warrants it but I can never be illiterate. What have been seen cannot be unseen. I don't expect you to understand.
At least, you're correct in only one things which is that 'I'm not your level'. Surely, any reader can testify that I'm not your level.
Finally, I forgive you for your insults. I'm assuming you went that far because you misconstrued my words for insults. Go and sin no more.
Don't forget, keep to topics you know about. If you must engage in those you know nothing about, come meekly as a learner. Bye

chrisxxx:
Igbos! This bastard called Chimenum is cashing out on you people. He has run away from Rumuewhor to SARS Road.
His mother had him as a bastard and came with him from Imo State when he married his Ikwerre father from Rumuewhor. His step-father had to change his name from Nwachukwu his original name to Chimenum. God did for me.
The same person has started causing problems in his adopted home and has been chased out.
Is it this nonentity that Igbos are listening to?
If you look at his face as a psychologist you will decipher the gaps in this guy reasoning.
Ikwerre people rejected Igbos identity before, during and after the war.
Other Rivers people know who are Ikwerres and who are Igbos.
Ikwerre people had never associated with with Igbos in any form let alone denying any other time.
Other tribes in Rivers State would have bore witness to this.

But this is the same story you guys peddled against amechi only that his father is yoruba