Omoapena:


Pearl, I have told you severally that, transportation is crucial and important in the society, if price is increased today, people will still patronize, I understand their will be dip but as time goes on, people will adjust back and get used to it.

Inflation is rising everyday, CBN just increased interest rate today again and banks are adjusting, people will eventually adjust.

Car parts is going up and car accessories is going up and you want bolt fare to remain the same, be like say you no wan get small change for your old age, do you want to work till you cross 50years old?...


If you're not making enough now for you to have little to save for future, when will you be able to?


If bolt increases fare by 20% to 30% and other apps does the same thing, trust me, riders will adjust..

Fuel price went up from 185 to 920 in space of 1 year, does it stop fuel from selling, people still queue to buy despite that much increment so, definitely, people will adjust to new price if they increase it as well...

Omoapena:



You see this mentality of more patronage and little money has to stop.


It's just like saying a pure water seller that have more buyers makes more money than a table water seller that have less customers...


See, what you should consider is profit margin and not Sales margin, I don't want something that will give me 1m sales and at the end, I'm only getting 100k profit margin, I want something that will give me 1k sales while my profit margin will be 200k.


Another instance, it's a way of telling someone that have been doing many trips, let's say 10 trips for 5hours for instance and make only 30k while someone do just 1 trip for 2hours and make same 30k.

That first person put in more time and effort but making same thing amount with someone that put in lesser time and energy.


After all, we will say work smarter and not harder, but you want to do more trips for little money when you can do little trips for more money...

Pearl, nah this your mentality bolt get, they are looking for more trips and lesser money but I keep saying this thing, what difference will it make to bolt if they are getting 25% on 10 trips that will amount to 20k and 25% on 1 trip that will amount to same 20k.

dav1002:


Please tell us the alternative to ehailing that will carry riders from their house to their destination

XGhost:


I think this is right

Pearl1910:


U are drawing impossible assumptions.
Until u have agreed that increased price means low number of trips, then u will not see the implication.
Bolt income is fixed at 25% of X
If X used to be N100m daily before, now it's down to N40m. X has also reduced
This definitely means Bolt income has dropped.
You as a driver if currently u are grossing N80k daily and ur profit is 40k after deducting fuel 20k and commission 20k And u say this 40k is not enough, bolt should increase price, now Bolt increases the fare and u can only Gross 50k with 10k fuel and 12k commission. Now your take home is less than 30k. Pls which do u prefer?

Omoapena:


Pearl, I have told you severally that, transportation is crucial and important in the society, if price is increased today, people will still patronize, I understand their will be dip but as time goes on, people will adjust back and get used to it.

Inflation is rising everyday, CBN just increased interest rate today again and banks are adjusting, people will eventually adjust.

Car parts is going up and car accessories is going up and you want bolt fare to remain the same, be like say you no wan get small change for your old age, do you want to work till you cross 50years old?...


If you're not making enough now for you to have little to save for future, when will you be able to?


If bolt increases fare by 20% to 30% and other apps does the same thing, trust me, riders will adjust..

Fuel price went up from 185 to 920 in space of 1 year, does it stop fuel from selling, people still queue to buy despite that much increment so, definitely, people will adjust to new price if they increase it as well...

Pearl1910:


U are drawing impossible assumptions.
Until u have agreed that increased price means low number of trips, then u will not see the implication.
Bolt income is fixed at 25% of X
If X used to be N100m daily before, now it's down to N40m. X has also reduced
This definitely means Bolt income has dropped.
You as a driver if currently u are grossing N80k daily and ur profit is 40k after deducting fuel 20k and commission 20k. And u say this 40k is not enough, bolt should increase price, now Bolt increases the fare and u can only Gross 50k with 10k fuel and 12k commission. Now your take home is less than 30k. Pls which do u prefer?

dav1002:


I want to believe the bolded is just an assumption

Pearl1910:


I dont think I have ever said Bolt should not increase price.
I said they are trying to find a balance between an affordable price for riders and a profitable price for partners. They have increased price already and are even giving bonuses to cushion the effect of high fuel price. but clearly it's not enough for u, reason why u are still converting trips to offline.
Coupled with the fact that Indrive is still a cheap alternative, therefore Bolt cannot set a price that will backfire.
Why do u keep arguing blindly back and forth.

Adjusting is a function of if people earn more. Can we buy a 5year old car today as easy as it was to buy a 5yr old car in 2010?
Why u never adjust till now??

All businesses are experiencing a dip in patronage, cos of high price. even omo Igbo in Ladipo close to u will tell u people aren't patronizing again like before because things don cost.
Me personally that don't buy hub bearing before, now hub bearing is my best friend cos I cannot afford one hub for 60k. I prefer to put bearing of 10k and use for 2-3 Months.

See inflation is not just the problem, part of the problem is there is no disposable income in circulation and income has not increased.

Omoapena:



Lolz with your calculations, why not say what same 20k fuel will gross you when they increase price.

Let me help you break it down, since you said 20k fuel is grossing 80k and we go home with 40k, pls, when doing your calculations, always remember to remove fuel amount coz you will have to buy back that fuel so your take home isn't 40k as whole but let me just go with your calculations by saying the take home is 40k from 20k fuel..

So you buy 20k fuel and you make 80k, minus commission you have 40k, and you said if they increased fuel, you may have 50k with 10k fuel and go home with 37500.

In your latter, you reduced the fuel to 10k, which means if you're to use 20k fuel for the change in price, it will be 100k gross, and remove commission of 25k and you will have 75k which is 35k difference from using 20k fuel to get 80k.

You're still looking at the total trips you will get, if you asked me, I don't mind getting 50k with 10k fuel to getting 80k with 20k fuel.
In your own instance, you're looking at the 80k and going home with 40k, remember to take your 20k fuel from that 40k and what you're actually going home with is 20k but in your other instance, someone doing 50k with 10k fuel, will go home with 27,500 after taking the 10k fuel from the 50k, so who's making more money with lesser fuel?



Do the math yourself and see who's making more using lesser fuel...

Pearl1910:


Not an assumption. It's my reality.
When I tell u I am speaking from experience u think I am telling stories to tickle your fantasy?
20k fuel
Look at the Net after commission is minimum 60k. Meaning Gross was 80k. I still did one or two Indrive trips on these days.

Pearl1910:


Omo... U win 🙌. I bow for u🤝. I clapp for u. 👏

Omoapena:


Bros, I can bet it that you didn't use 20k fuel which is roughly 22liters to gross 80k online...


Send the trip details where it's showing the distance and the amount of the whole trips that gives you 80k and I will tell you, you didn't use 20k fuel to gross 80k now...


The offline trip I did on Monday that gave me 36k, I used about 13 litres of fuel which was mushin to Thomas estate and Abraham adesanya to airport.


So, if I'm using 13litres for that far distance to get 36k which was the fare bolt charged online and they both even tipped me 1500 collectively, tell me how you will now use 22litres to gross 80k on bolt now.


Pearl, I just believe now that you're a chronic liar...


Or, let's use Barbiturate case for instance, he did addo road to airport for 18500, let's even say he uses 6litre of fuel which is never possible but let's assume he used 6litre, how many times can we get 6litre from 22litres, that will be 3 and half times right?

And, Barbiturate did 18500 using 6litres, so, let's say he was lucky to be getting that same trip with same distance and amount for 3 and half times using 6litres for each trip.

So, that means 18500 multiply by 3 and half that will give us 64750.

Remember he uses 6litre to cover distance that will give him 18500, so 20k fuel which is 22litres will give him 64750 of same trip and same amount.

I believe addo road to airport is way more than 50km
And there's no way 6litre can cover such distance but I just pegged it at 6litres to go with your imaginary 10km/l and I'm still not getting 80k with that calculation.

Omoapena:


See, either offline or online, if anything goes south, you're a suspect to whatever it is, online won't save you from the mess cox bolt will never show up to save you from whatever mess you find yourself...

Online isn't guaranteed for safety, the prayer is not to jam problem...


This makes me remember my friend that was arrested in igando some years back, he carried some guys, they were 4 in numbers, in the afternoon and police stopped him to search his car, while he stopped for searching, those guys just ran away, they were able to catch 2 of them and they found gun on them, my friend was arrested despite showing them its an online trip, to cut the story short, my friend involved lawyer and they took him to ikeja, he spent about 3 weeks in police custody before they later let him go with a payment of 450k.


So, whether it's an online or offline, it doesn't guarantee any safety, both for driver and rider, if you want to argue it, what's the difference between indrive trip and offline trip.

The only thing online trip can do is to be able to track your last ride, but whatever that will happen to you, either the driver or the rider would have happened.

Pearl1910:


Some people are now saying it's better they drive than take uber cos it's getting too expensive.
Some others are running to indrive for cheap rides and others are actually taking yellow cabs or public transportation.
Many people now treck from inside estate to d gate to enter keke or korokpe.
Others only go out when it is extremely necessary, all those careless long distance waka don reduce.
U should chat more with ur riders next time u carry them. These questions shouldn't be for me.

izzou:


Either your guy is lying to you, or he was part of them.

Police is wicked, but they are not stupid.

The moment those two can confirm that you are just a driver, the police will let you go.

Heck, if you can prove that you were just a cab driver, you will be excused.

dav1002:


@the bolded, you forgot to add gross

And it wasn't 20k fuel he used to gross 80k it was 10k actually

Let's keep whining ourselves

Omoapena:


I really dislike how people assume things, I'm telling you that nothing once your rider is a criminal, either online or offline, they will still arrest you, infact, if not that, the guy was driving company car then, he will be locked in cell for a very long time.


How did they come to know he was arrested, he was supposed to remit to the company but since they couldn't reach him, they reached his family and his family couldn't reach him too so, they had to track the car and that's how they got to know he was arrested and when we asked him if the trip is offline, he said it was online, infact, he didn't even end the trip, I think bolt automatically ended it....


Be like una no know police, do you want tell me that bolt don't know people can order online while you turn it offline?

Omoapena:
MrReeseG, pls kindly chat blessing and ask her about Ayo case that was arrested some years back due to the riders he carried, tell her to tell you what actually happened.


He was a friend that I introduced to blessing as I introduced you to her as well...

People think police in Nigeria will just pardon someone coz they were on an online trip.


I even read a news on this same nairaland where a driver took someone on an online trip and on getting to 3mb, the girl asked she needed to piss and the driver waited for her to piss only to realize the girl has jumped inside water and the driver went to report the case and they detained him despite him showing them it was an online trip...

izzou:


That is why i said your guy is not telling you the whole truth. Maybe he said he knew them initially, or he tried some funny way to evade the police.

You don't need to tell me about Police. I have encountered these issues few times; Last year, i spent a night in December in the station, and i wrote it on Nairaland.


Like i said, they are not stupid.

The moment you can prove that you were contracted to carry the culprit from point A to B, your case is special.

Are you Uber? Yes...That's all they need to know what to do next.

I have seen drivers pretend to know their passengers or even defend them during a stop and search. Na that one dey backfire quick quick

izzou:


This does not relate to what you said earlier.

Even in USA, the driver will be detained, unless there is proof that she stopped the car and jumped.

Omoapena:



🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I said, the guy took them online and why will he claim they are close associate of him to the police when they are just random people he carried online...


I guess the reason why they detained him was because 2 people fled away, and it was his car they ordered while they found gun on them.

See ehn, make we no just carry anybody wey go put us for trouble, either online or offline won't save us if we carry person wey get contraband.

Omoapena:


Yeah, I know right, but it was the driver that went to police station himself, what if the driver just pretends nothing of such happens and probably after intensive investigation, they find out she orders that driver and you know the driver can actually claim the lady asked to be dropped at a bus stop cox she wants to meet someone there and he dropped her without knowing her whereabouts from there but the driver didn't do that and went to station. But do you know that if that trip was offline, the driver is safe coz he will just pretend he didn't carry anyone like that and there's no way they would have known the girl entered his car..cat...

In this case, offline would have totally make him avoid being detained.

pope191:
I won’t like to doubt Pearl on the 20k fuel of a thing, because it is not my car. The only thing I’ll be curious about is does 13k fuel gross 70k before the increment. Because what we buy at 13k is what 20k can get today.

Note: Bolt increased their price, but seem reversed when una too get sense. Seems like drivers prefer app with small price.

izzou:


Yes, online

Or are you saying you are responsible for what your rider has in their bag or on their phones?

I have heard cases where drivers tried to evade checkpoints because the rider (A yahoo boy) promised a big tip.

Police have this unwritten respect for Uber drivers. Even when SARS was at its peak, they let us go if we identify ourselves as a driver.

Barbiturate:
Omo, see posts! My mentions don reach like 1 billion 😀

Omoapena, I support all you said (including increasing the fare) apart from offline. I have my reasons and it's not even about security.

Pearl, I don't make 40k net. Infact now I don't meet target again, the same day. I carry over till the next day. I use 20k fuel if I buy from NNPC. I use 22k if I buy from others.

Some days I make 45k gross, some days I make 50k gross. Remove fuel, commission, wear/tear, feeding, call credit and data. Do it maths and see if it's reasonable. Infact remove them from 45k. Though I understand that it's the kind of car I use, but then I was making good profit(to me) when fuel was 185 and even when it got to 585. This 900/ltr and the low price on apps isn't encouraging at all.

I'm already thinking of quitting......but to do what now?

It's a sorry situation!

Omoapena:


Bros, I can bet it that you didn't use 20k fuel which is roughly 22liters to gross 80k online...


Send the trip details where it's showing the distance and the amount of the whole trips that gives you 80k and I will tell you, you didn't use 20k fuel to gross 80k now...


The offline trip I did on Monday that gave me 36k, I used about 13 litres of fuel which was mushin to Thomas estate and Abraham adesanya to airport.


So, if I'm using 13litres for that far distance to get 36k which was the fare bolt charged online and they both even tipped me 1500 collectively, tell me how you will now use 22litres to gross 80k on bolt now.


Pearl, I just believe now that you're a chronic liar...


Or, let's use Barbiturate case for instance, he did addo road to airport for 18500, let's even say he uses 6litre of fuel which is never possible but let's assume he used 6litre, how many times can we get 6litre from 22litres, that will be 3 and half times right?

And, Barbiturate did 18500 using 6litres, so, let's say he was lucky to be getting that same trip with same distance and amount for 3 and half times using 6litres for each trip.

So, that means 18500 multiply by 3 and half that will give us 64750.

Remember he uses 6litre to cover distance that will give him 18500, so 20k fuel which is 22litres will give him 64750 of same trip and same amount.

I believe addo road to airport is way more than 50km
And there's no way 6litre can cover such distance but I just pegged it at 6litres to go with your imaginary 10km/l and I'm still not getting 80k with that calculation.

ksmart027:

Bros you too like argument and the funny part is u no dey gree at all , if you were in ph, i would have prove to you your car dey consume fuel because my car gets more than 10km/l. I no say you go still argue am sha

Pearl1910:


Not an assumption. It's my reality.
When I tell u I am speaking from experience u think I am telling stories to tickle your fantasy?
20k fuel
Look at the Net after commission is minimum 60k. Meaning Gross was 80k. I still did one or two Indrive trips on these days.