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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:48pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


Most of the people in this thread who are saying Trump is going to win don't live in and have never been to the US.
Word for the wise.

you sound stupid, he wants to bet, what does that have to do with anything grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Maeve7: 7:03pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


Yeah, esp. reading the posts on this site. It's somewhat depressing and sad. And as you said exhausting.
And the non Nigerian commentators make it even worse. You have a wealth of information online, you can see how tribalism, corruption, lying and autocratic tendencies hurt a country first hand (Nigeria). And yet, you choose to willingly support the same in a leader for another country. The frustrating part from that is understanding that Nigeria will most likely be in a bad place for a long time.
I'm exhausted by it all.

I choose to ignore this thread most of the time as any conversation proves fruitless. I only read your comments and those of the people who don’t support Trump or at least don’t follow him blindly. I have tried to understand people who think differently and find some common ground but it’s almost impossible. It’s very sad and depressing that a leader can divide a nation in such a drastic way. A house divided can’t stand.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MERCHANDISER: 7:08pm On Sep 25
LordAdam16:


0%.

The Dems can steal the election again.
There will be no repercussions.

-Lord

Thanks bro,
I just saw on the rating on fox news that Trump is leading in key battle states
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Maeve7: 7:21pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


When has a president become a role model for anyone? Was Bill Clinton a role model? You as a parent should be the role model for your children and not outsource that responsibility to a politician

We don't need to make presidents into angels. They are no better than you morally and shouldn't. They are liars, perverts, cheats, alcoholics, etc. Why do you want to outsource that to your children

People who support Trump are not looking for priests and moralists for their children, they are looking for who will make policies that will make their lives better

Your kids are influenced by a huge number of people, you and their mother, other family members, their teachers, their peers, the media, you name it. You can‘t cut them off from the rest of the world and ignoring the impact others have on them is risky.

The leader of a country should be held to higher standards and set a positive example worth emulating. Nobody has ever said they are saints or flawless but they should be held to higher standards and held accountable. That’s why we call them leaders.

Also, how do you justify to your children that you are willing to support a criminal, a rude and crass guy who calls his opponents names like an immature school boy, as long he gets done what you need him to do for you. If …

It’s akin to telling your kids that the end justifies the means. You could equally tell them that stealing is ok if it makes them rich or that cheating on a test is ok if it brings success.

So even if you still believe that a leader of a country does not have any impact on the moral setup of a society, your political leaning tells your kids a lot about you and your morals.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:36pm On Sep 25
basilico:


Whom are you trying to fool? Is Ijebos paying you to peddle his lies ?

You and your lot have been consistently wrong about everything US election based since the 2020 election.

And the US mail in system is safe and secure.
Here is the tracking details for my Mail in Ballot. I procrastinated sending my primary ballot in so I had to vote in person.

The US system is very sophisticated in the way it tracks ballots. It shows you when it was mailed to you, received back by the state and the status. Even the Post Office has modernized their systems, I get an email every morning with the pieces of mail destined to my address. Because of that It is very hard for any large scale Mail in Ballot rigging to happen.

Your understanding is based on the bastardized and corrupt Nigerian system. That is all you know. But that is not the reality of the US system.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SpaceX: 7:39pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


I think this is hilarious. All these Trumpers on this thread keep talking about Harris has no policies. Yet, none can name one policy Trump helped enact while he was President that helped the middle class more than the rich economically
Did you see the clips flying around of old cold-hearted criminal nancy pelosi attacking CNN Jake Tapper? She a!most slapped him, I hope you don't have that bitterness in you, come Nov 5th the old b*tch might possibly hang herself.

Here are some :
1. The Agriculture Improvement Act
2. Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act
3. The VA MISSION Act
4. Study of Underrepresented Classes Chasing Engineering and Science Success Act

I can go on and on, they are in thousands and probably take me a year to list all.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:39pm On Sep 25
LordAdam16:


0%.

The Dems can steal the election again.
There will be no repercussions.

-Lord

Keep your mental ill conspiracy rantings to the Nigerian voting system.
Have you ever voted in the US to even have an opinion?

The amount of people stupid and crazy enough to believe this stuff is alarming.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 7:42pm On Sep 25
Maeve7:


Your kids are influenced by a huge number of people, you and their mother, other family members, their teachers, their peers, the media, you name it. You can‘t cut them off from the rest of the world and ignoring the impact others have on them is risky.

The leader of a country should be held to higher standards and set a positive example worth emulating. Nobody has ever said they are saints or flawless but they should be held to higher standards and held accountable. That’s why we call them leaders.

Also, how do you justify to your children that you are willing to support a criminal, a rude and crass guy who calls his opponents names like an immature school boy, as long he gets done what you need him to do for you. If …

It’s akin to telling your kids that the end justifies the means. You could equally tell them that stealing is ok if it makes them rich or that cheating on a test is ok if it brings success.

So even if you still believe that a leader of a country does not have any impact on the moral setup of a society, your political leaning tells your kids a lot about you and your morals.


Well said.

In addition to all you wrote, Ps 32:, says "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered", I dare says when God decides to expose your sins, then you are no longer blessed. But for millions of American to keep supporting Trump after many of his sins have been uncovered is amazing. This guy has moved from one scandal to many, yet many are still blindly supporting him. He is twice impeached and now a convicted felon, apart from many other lighter scandals, yet many Americans still wanna vote for him, It is now a norm not to raise an eyebrow when Trump throws out a big lamba (lie)... I mean how do you explain to your child, that you actually supported and voted for a CONFIRMED bad guy to be your president. No American leader has survived winning another election after a major scandal broke out... But for Trump

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 7:48pm On Sep 25
Maeve7:


Your kids are influenced by a huge number of people, you and their mother, other family members, their teachers, their peers, the media, you name it. You can‘t cut them off from the rest of the world and ignoring the impact others have on them is risky.

The leader of a country should be held to higher standards and set a positive example worth emulating. Nobody has ever said they are saints or flawless but they should be held to higher standards and held accountable. That’s why we call them leaders.

Also, how do you justify to your children that you are willing to support a criminal, a rude and crass guy who calls his opponents names like an immature school boy, as long he gets done what you need him to do for you. If …

It’s akin to telling your kids that the end justifies the means. You could equally tell them that stealing is ok if it makes them rich or that cheating on a test is ok if it brings success.

So even if you still believe that a leader of a country does not have any impact on the moral setup of a society, your political leaning tells your kids a lot about you and your morals.


Presidents have never been moral compass for anyone, If you are looking for moral compasses, look at your parents and your religious leaders. Its simply a person who can guide the country to success with their policies not their personal lives. You can as well let your kids be influenced by Diddy, Eminem, Cardi B or Miley Cyrus

Which president was scandal free? Do you want your kids to be like Clinton who was a serial cheat and a liar, Reagan and Obama were smokers, George W struggled with alcohol, Winston Churchill smoked and drank heavily, Many of them e.g JFK were involved in infidelity scandals, Nixon was a liar. Actually all of them were liars

You are talking about morality while advocating for Kamala who was a side chic to a married man. Kamala is technically the female version of Trump

So if your child does not turn out right, or don't show good morals you don't blame yourself you blame the guy in the white house.

What will life be if Democrats don't blame someone else or something else for or just accept personal responsibility

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SpaceX: 8:00pm On Sep 25
Maeve7:


I choose to ignore this thread most of the time as any conversation proves fruitless. I only read your comments and those of the people who don’t support Trump or at least don’t follow him blindly. I have tried to understand people who think differently and find some common ground but it’s almost impossible. It’s very sad and depressing that a leader can divide a nation in such a drastic way. A house divided can’t stand.
1. Use the FBI to suppress information weeks before election; that is election interference
2. Calling Trump a racist for building a wall and then make a U-turn like a coward trying to do the same thing.
3. Lying to the whole country about biden's health
4 calling Trump Hitler and tagging project 2025 to him despite having no hand in it.
5. Blaming Trump for Jan 6. While Nancy pelosi was caught on camera admitting it was her fault.

So, with the five above, please who is trying to divide the country? Trump or the Democrats?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Maeve7: 8:03pm On Sep 25
SpaceX:
1. Use the FBI to suppress information weeks before election; that is election interference
2. Calling Trump a racist for building a wall and then make a U-turn like a coward trying to do the same thing.
3. Lying to the whole country about biden's health
4 calling Trump Hitler and tagging project 2025 to him despite having no hand in it.
5. Blaming Trump for Jan 6. While Nancy pelosi was caught on camera admitting it was her fault.

So, with the five above, please who is trying to divide the country? Trump or the Democrats?

The problem with posts like yours is that you make a lot of claims without backing them up with any sources. You believe whatever you want to believe but don’t act like you are actually factual.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 8:03pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


Presidents have never been moral compass for anyone, If you are looking for moral compasses, look at your parents and your religious leaders. Its simply a person who can guide the country to success with their policies not their personal lives. You can as well let your kids be influenced by Diddy, Eminem, Cardi B or Miley Cyrus

Which president was scandal free? Do you want your kids to be like Clinton who was a serial cheat and a liar, Reagan and Obama were smokers, George W struggled with alcohol, Winston Churchill smoked and drank heavily, Many of them e.g JFK were involved in infidelity scandals, Nixon was a liar. Actually all of them were liars

You are talking about morality while advocating for Kamala who was a side chic to a married man. Kamala is technically the female version of Trump

See how you group all of them into one basket. A smoker and an alcohol drinker is same as a cheat, fraudster and women abuser and one who mobilized violent mob to attack the Capitol in other to overturn an election.... All these sins and more combined in one person. Trump's wrongs are beyond morality issue.

Please remind me again, what is the jail sentence for a smoker?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:05pm On Sep 25
SpaceX:
Did you see the clips flying around of old cold-hearted criminal nancy pelosi attacking CNN Jake Tapper? She a!most slapped him, I hope you don't have that bitterness in you, come Nov 5th the old b*tch might possibly hang herself.

Here are some :
1. The Agriculture Improvement Act
2. Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act
3. The VA MISSION Act
4. Study of Underrepresented Classes Chasing Engineering and Science Success Act

I can go on and on, they are in thousands and probably take me a year to list all.

1.) The Agriculture Improvement Act
This is the Farm Bill that was expiring. It was extended in 2018. It expired and was extended again in 2023 and Biden Reauthorized it.
In fact 13 Senate Republicans voted against it.
This wasn't Trump's policy.

2.)
The Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act. The bill eased financial regulations imposed by the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act after the financial crisis of 2007–2008.
[b]Specifically, the bill raised the threshold from $50 billion to $250 billion under which banks are deemed too big to fail.
[5] The bill also eliminated the Volcker Rule for small banks with less than $10 billion in assets.[6]

Dodd Frank was passed after the financial collapse. It's meant to stress test banks.
You remember those banks that failed a few years ago? Costing customers money and the Federal government had to step in to guarantee people's money so other banks wouldn't fail? Yeah, this legislation was part of the reason. Those banks were exempt from this stress test.


3.)
Spin, hyperbole and deception: How Trump claimed credit for an Obama veterans achievement
President Trump has told mistruths about the 2014 VA Choice Act more than 156 times, seeking to deny the contributions of rivals including Barack Obama and John McCain .
The first time President Trump claimed false credit for the Veterans Access, Choice and Accountability Act — which President Barack Obama signed into law in 2014 — was on June 6, 2018. That day, as Trump signed the Mission Act, a modest update to the bipartisan VA Choice legislation, he seemed to conflate the two.

Again, this was Obama's policy that was slightly amended.

4.) Study of Underrepresented Classes Chasing Engineering and Science Success Act
Was this a policy? This was a report.

Again, which one of these policies do you think helped create the best Economy ever that he keeps talking about? You can keep listing them as I don't see any there. Seems that since these are the only things you could google, you admit there are none. And it's not shocking that these policies you listed were Democratic policies that got updated, or policies that expired that needed to be renewed. All Democratic policies. Let that sink in. Seems, you want Dems to enact Dem policies.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:05pm On Sep 25
ObaIgwe1:


See how you group all of them into one basket. A smoker and an alcohol drinker is same as a cheat, fraudster and women abuser and one who mobilized violent mob to attack the Capitol in other to overturn an election.... All these sins and more combined in one person. Trump's wrongs are beyond morality issue.

Please remind me again, what is the jail sentence for a smoker?

What jail sentence has been given to Trump?

Do you want your kids to be a sidechic like Kamala
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 9:15pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


What jail sentence has been given to Trump?

Do you want your kids to be a sidechic like Kamala

Captain Intellectual Dishonesty going hard in his Intellectual Dishonesty.
It seems to be your superpower.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:23pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


Captain Intellectual Dishonesty going hard in his Intellectual Dishonesty.
It seems to be your superpower.

What is your own superpower? Victimhood?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:30pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


What is your own superpower? Victimhood?

And an imaginary girlfriend for a man who is obviously gay
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 10:27pm On Sep 25
Have you guys ever wondered what Elon musk is doing for the rapist felon trump?

Absolutely Fúck-all.

He is not an effective surrogate just like Mark Cuban is for Kamala Harris.

The pig Elon musk can't even defend the ridiculous rapist felon's economic policies on big beautiful tariffs, that even Mitch McConnell says is a very dumb idea.That's when you know these toxic masculine douchebags are just plain idiots.

And this is why Kamala Harris will sweep the rapist trump in a landslide.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:39pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:

People who support Trump are not looking for priests and moralists for their children, they are looking for who will make policies that will make their lives better

They don't care that he lies so much or however much pussy he grabs as long as they are paid?

Guess this election will determine how many reason that way.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:43pm On Sep 25
ObaIgwe1:


Pray, tell me the right way to read and interpret the data I posted.

You guys are using 2020 mail in votes and early voting data to judge 2024. You all forgot there was covid in 2020 and Dems actually campaigned for their members and voters to vote by mail and by early voting to avoid being in large crowd on the election day. That has changed now.

Funny is it might have flipped, with Republicans voting early by mail, and Democrats waiting for election day.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 10:43pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


What is your own superpower? Victimhood?

Well said Captain Intellectual Dishonesty.
Why don't you go back to comparing the legality of smoking to Trump and his 34 felonies for criminality in trying to hide the fact that he smashed a porn star... raw while his wife was pregnant.

Yeah, I guess they are both the same because Trump hasn't received a jail sentence yet. LOL.
Raum said, he was convicted of murder but because he didn't receive a jail sentence yet, it's similar to smoking. undecided

I wonder how someone like you figures out how to put his pants on in the morning.
Keep at that Intellectual Dishonesty. Will surely make you smarter one day.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:44pm On Sep 25
budaatum:


They don't care that he lies so much or however much pussy he grabs as long as they are paid?

Guess this election will determine how many reason that way.

Since Trump grabbed your pussy you have lost your mind.

I don't think trump lies or truth puts money in people's bank accounts, when they are asked, they say they trust him more with the economy.
your body your choice, trump should not be grabbing buda's pussy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 10:45pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:

People who support Trump are not looking for priests and moralists for their children, they are looking for who will make policies that will make their lives better

You keep talking about these policies, yet have never named one policy Trump proposed to make "their lives better".

I guess you can call them concepts of policies. lol
It's as if you say he has a policy enough times, it'll magically conjure one up.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:48pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


You keep talking about these policies, yet have never named one policy Trump proposed to make "their lives better".

I guess you can call them concepts of policies. lol
It's as if you say he has a policy enough times, it'll magically conjure one up.

Lmao

So why when asked they say it was better during Trump?
Did you benefit from the tax cut?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:51pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


Presidents have never been moral compass for anyone, If you are looking for moral compasses, look at your parents and your religious leaders.

I think children might learn something from watching their parents supporting a rapist and a liar, and I doubt what they'd learn from such parents is good.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:16pm On Sep 25
budaatum:
They don't care that he lies so much or however much pussy he grabs as long as they are paid?

Guess this election will determine how many reason that way.

Are you looking at politicians and celebrities teach your kids morals? He can do whatever he wants in his personal life as long as its not been adjudged criminal as long as he makes policies that makes life better for me
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:18pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


Well said Captain Intellectual Dishonesty.
Why don't you go back to comparing the legality of smoking to Trump and his 34 felonies for criminality in trying to hide the fact that he smashed a porn star... raw while his wife was pregnant.

Yeah, I guess they are both the same because Trump hasn't received a jail sentence yet. LOL.
Raum said, he was convicted of murder but because he didn't receive a jail sentence yet, it's similar to smoking. undecided

I wonder how someone like you figures out how to put his pants on in the morning.
Keep at that Intellectual Dishonesty. Will surely make you smarter one day.

Are you jealous that he smashed a poorn star? Has his wife come to complain to you?. Ijebos is so mad that Trump smashes a porn star while Trumps wife is pregnant? Why are you mad on behalf of Melania? Do you wish it was you he smashed instead of Stormy?

Or how are you the victim of Trump smashing anyone he wishes
Bill Clinton was smashing anyone and everyone including intern inside the white house

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:19pm On Sep 25
IjeBos:


You keep talking about these policies, yet have never named one policy Trump proposed to make "their lives better".

I guess you can call them concepts of policies. lol
It's as if you say he has a policy enough times, it'll magically conjure one up.

Trump tax cut benefitted me. Did it benefit you or you rejected the tax cuts?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:20pm On Sep 25
bemeruca:

Since Trump grabbed your pussy you have lost your mind.

Well, it is mind losing when a dirty pervert grabs one's pussy. It's rape in fact, which is traumatising, and is the reason most are against it and why it gets a prison sentence or you pay damages if sued. But so long as the rapist gives you a tax break why should you care, right?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:21pm On Sep 25
budaatum:


I think children might learn something from watching their parents supporting a rapist and a liar, and I doubt what they'd learn from such parents is good.

Parents will support anyone who makes life easy for them to care for their family. I am sure children will be disgusted if their parents support someone who makes the economy harder for the parents to provide for their family

Do you think children will be excited that their parents are supporting a woman who was a sidechic to a married man and lies for a living?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:22pm On Sep 25
budaatum:


Well, it is mind losing when a dirty pervert grabs one's pussy. It's rape in fact, which is traumatising, and is the reason most are against it and why it gets a prison sentence or you pay damages if sued. But so long as the rapist gives you a tax break why should you care, right?

Let whoevers pussy was grabbed without her consent approach the court with evidence and the court do their job. We are not in the country to be judging whatever 2 consenting adults decide to do with one another whether its pussy balls or throat they are grabbing

Find a consenting adult and grab yours too
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:25pm On Sep 25
raumdeuter:


Are you looking at politicians and celebrities teach your kids morals?

I teach my kids morals by the choices I make and the people I support, and supporting a rapist is teaching my kids that rape is supportable, which I definitely wouldn't want for my kids even if it means I'm not taxed at all. Money isn't everything for me, you see.

You sound like those pastors who praise God when the thief pays tithe.

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