budaatum, Deepsight, Wilgrea7, johnnydon22, EnlightenedUFO, OkpaNsukkaisBae, Hardmirror,

Everyone is welcome to air their views too.

Lemme start by saying I have not given this a lot of thought because this question only occurred to me this morning.

Now I am talking about the state of being dead not the process of getting there aka dying.

In your response start by defining good then move on to if you think death meets that definition and final the characteristics of death that you think makes your position valid.

The goal of this discussion is just air our views and have a good discussion, no pressure.

Good is how we define certain states of our being , events that happen to us and/or actions we take which we find very agreeable.

Death, I think defies our conventional view of what is good or bad because it cannot fit into how we see either. Especially since it is a state in which we cannot send or receive reports on the state of our being or of events or of actions. It's a state in which there is neither agreement or disagreement. As living beings looking at death we are befuddled just by how inscrutible it seems.

Death is bad, my Lord.

I dread the day I die and wouldn't be able to read your posts or post any of mine here for you to read.

If I were to die now, things will happen in the world, like dump losing the US election or Nigerians electing a competent president, and I won't be here to rejoice with you all.

In fact, unless I take measures, like sending an alternative contact email to trusted folks here who may enquire about me if I stopped posting, you'd not even know buda died, and would just assume buda went missing!

Bad is negative and undesirable, while good is positive and welcomed.

i personally think death is good, Because you have enjoyed from the life cycle and when you die you should be buried back so you can give back to the earth.

but i think death is amoral. Majority of us view death as neither inherently good nor bad. From a purely naturalistic or biological perspective, death is a fundamental part of the life cycle. It happens to all living things and is not judged by moral standards. In this sense, death just is, and moral judgments about it arise only in relation to how it occurs or what causes it.

i hope i answered your question

LordReed:
Good is how we define certain states of our being , events that happen to us and/or actions we take which we find very agreeable.

Death, I think defies our conventional view of what is good or bad because it cannot fit into how we see either. Especially since it is a state in which we cannot send or receive reports on the state of our being or of events or of actions. It's a state in which there is neither agreement or disagreement. As living beings looking at death we are befuddled just by how inscrutible it seems.

We find many things agreeable but they do not mean that they are good eg rent, paying for licenses and very many unnatural things that have been forced upon us.

So what is good? Good is that which is good as proven by the smile/joy such thing or act delivers to a person and persons.

Good is a personal experience but the fact that a thing or action is truly and fully good is confirmed by the abundance and collation of persons and members of a community who reconfirm that they too experienced that that which is said to be good, is good.

So, to the question, is death good thing?

Looking at its origin as disclosed by the Bible, prima facie, death is bad because it was a cessation of something good like when a sweet party was going on and then suddenly armed beasts called army or kidnappers come to stop it.

However, if a you were a slave tortured daily, or a person having a misery full living as many have confessed death appears to be a good thing.

But the badness of death is again reconfirmed by the fact that those with misery full living still do not easily and readilly throw themselves into its mouth.

Meanwhile, we have also seen certain people who have expressed a strong willingness to die and they did jump into the waiting mouth of death, so to them, it is a good thing

So i submit. death is about 90% bad and 10% good.

LordReed:
budaatum, Deepsight, Wilgrea7, johnnydon22, EnlightenedUFO, OkpaNsukkaisBae, Hardmirror,

Everyone is welcome to air their views too.

Lemme start by saying I have not given this a lot of thought because this question only occurred to me this morning.

Now I am talking about the state of being dead not the process of getting there aka dying.

In your response start by defining good then move on to if you think death meets that definition and final the characteristics of death that you think makes your position valid.

The goal of this discussion is just air our views and have a good discussion, no pressure.

Whether death is good or not depends on the situation. The definition of good also varies depending on situation.
Personally, i think that if you've lived your life to the fullest, then death is just an eternal rest/retirement.
Death is very useful because life will eventually get boring. Anything that you do too much will always eventually get boring. If you ate fried rice and chicken everyday for a long period of time it will eventually get boring.
Just as light without darkness is meaningless, beauty without uglyness is meaningless, good without evil is meaningless, richness without poverty is meaningless, intelligence without stupidity is meaningless, joy without sadness is meaningless, work without play is meaningless, so therefore LIFE without DEATH is meaningless.
The opposite of something Helps us to appreciate that thing better.

When we make Heaven it shall be heaven indeed.

We shall worship forever and live in our True Forms forever and ever!

both life and death are baseless to me

datz y i havent cut my wrist






even if i make it later

y did i have 2 suffer 4 so many dam fvcked years

LordReed:
budaatum, Deepsight, Wilgrea7, johnnydon22, EnlightenedUFO, OkpaNsukkaisBae, Hardmirror,

Everyone is welcome to air their views too.

Lemme start by saying I have not given this a lot of thought because this question only occurred to me this morning.

Now I am talking about the state of being dead not the process of getting there aka dying.

In your response start by defining good then move on to if you think death meets that definition and final the characteristics of death that you think makes your position valid.

The goal of this discussion is just air our views and have a good discussion, no pressure.

I believe what you think is good or bad is subjective to your belief.

There's no absolute way to clarify what death can be. People die horrific cruel deaths and some people call it a bad death, and some die in their old age, sitting on the beach or having a cookout while their grandkids are playing in the background, and that some people will call a good death.

But I don't think a death is either good or bad. It's just an inevitable stage of life we will all pass through.

budaatum:

If I were to die now, things will happen in the world, like dump losing the US election

😁😁

Then you must live long to witness the total downfall of the rapist and the entire maga cult. Amen.

Aaronsrod:
When we make Heaven it shall be heaven indeed.

We shall worship forever and live in our True Forms forever and ever!

Who told you our present form was not our true form?

The bible says that we are getting a new form in line with the new world accoming.

EnlightenedUFO:


I believe what you think is good or bad is subjective to your belief.

There's no absolute way to clarify what death can be. People die horrific cruel deaths and some people call it a bad death, and some die in their old age, sitting on the beach or having a cookout while their grandkids are playing in the background, and that some people will call a good death.

But I don't think a death is either good or bad. It's just an inevitable stage of life we will all pass through.

Everything is either good or bad. So if death is good for you, then it is. but if it is bad for you, so it is also.

Everyday247:
Whether death is good or not depends on the situation. The definition of good also varies depending on situation.
Personally, i think that if you've lived your life to the fullest, then death is just an eternal rest/retirement.
Death is very useful because life will eventually get boring. Anything that you do too much will always eventually get boring. If you ate fried rice and chicken everyday for a long period of time it will eventually get boring.
Just as light without darkness is meaningless, beauty without uglyness is meaningless, good without evil is meaningless, richness without poverty is meaningless, intelligence without stupidity is meaningless, joy without sadness is meaningless, work without play is meaningless, so therefore LIFE without DEATH is meaningless.
The opposite of something Helps us to appreciate that thing better.

Wrong!

Timubu is living life to the full like Queen Eliza, surely he does not want to die. So life isn't boring and as developed countries have shown, light without nepa taking light is not meaningless.

hakeem4:
i personally think death is good, Because you have enjoyed from the life cycle and when you die you should be buried back so you can give back to the earth.

but i think death is amoral. Majority of us view death as neither inherently good nor bad. From a purely naturalistic or biological perspective, death is a fundamental part of the life cycle. It happens to all living things and is not judged by moral standards. In this sense, death just is, and moral judgments about it arise only in relation to how it occurs or what causes it.

i hope i answered your question

Nature through Sex and food prove that if we have enjoyed a thing, we want to keep enjoying it, so you are talking rubbish here, sorry.

StillDtruth:


Who told you our present form was not our true form?

The bible says that we are getting a new form in line with the new world accoming.

You believe this our new world will resemble Nigeria?

How then shall we be as Nigerians in Heaven?

The thing is how can you give an answer to an equation that's not complete. We only have one side of the equation which is what comes before death. Given the knowledge of this part of the equation, we could attempt to paint a picture through the context of our individual lives but imo, it'll not be complete without the other side of the equation which is what comes after.

So imo it's neither as we don't know the whole equation. Which reminds me about a doc i was seeing, some birds, burrow owls(they're endangered) to be precise where in a box about to be introduced into the wild, they looked really scared cause they didn't know what was coming next. One by one the human removed an owl at a time, there were abt 20 of em. Each one retreating back not wanting to be the next one picked up. That stuff made me think in the direction of this question.

Aaronsrod:

You believe this our new world will resemble Nigeria?

How then shall we be as Nigerians in Heaven?

Nigeria was good and very good before the people made it bad, so that is not the problem.

Lucifyre:
The thing is how can you give an answer to an equation that's not complete. We only have one side of the equation which is what comes before death. Given the knowledge of this part of the equation, we could attempt to paint a picture through the context of our individual lives but imo, it'll not be complete without the other side of the equation which is what comes after...

I know you are a mad person and you will insalt me because i make you show the world how very foolish you atheists are but i will address any seemingly reasonable thing i see you saying.

No equation is ever complete. They all stop where the maker of it chooses to stop it. And that is why we have short equations and long equations.

And whether short or long, mathematicians solved them.

hakeem4:
i personally think death is good, Because you have enjoyed from the life cycle and when you die you should be buried back so you can give back to the earth.

but i think death is amoral. Majority of us view death as neither inherently good nor bad. From a purely naturalistic or biological perspective, death is a fundamental part of the life cycle. It happens to all living things and is not judged by moral standards. In this sense, death just is, and moral judgments about it arise only in relation to how it occurs or what causes it.

i hope i answered your question

I guess I should have clarified I didn't mean good in the moral sense since it isn't really a moral issue.

I take it to mean you think the dead body being fed to the earth to recycle it's nutrients is a good thing. I can see the value of that. When I die I don't want my corpse to be put in a casket. Instead they would bury the corpse naked and a tree planted with it.

budaatum:
Death is bad, my Lord.

I dread the day I die and wouldn't be able to read your posts or post any of mine here for you to read.

If I were to die now, things will happen in the world, like dump losing the US election or Nigerians electing a competent president, and I won't be here to rejoice with you all.

In fact, unless I take measures, like sending an alternative contact email to trusted folks here who may enquire about me if I stopped posting, you'd not even know buda died, and would just assume buda went missing!

Bad is negative and undesirable, while good is positive and welcomed.

I dread it too but is ending bad? We read books we wish didn't end but that isn't bad is it?

StillDtruth:


We find many things agreeable but they do not mean that they are good eg rent, paying for licenses and very many unnatural things that have been forced upon us.

So what is good? Good is that which is good as proven by the smile/joy such thing or act delivers to a person and persons.

Good is a personal experience but the fact that a thing or action is truly and fully good is confirmed by the abundance and collation of persons and members of a community who reconfirm that they too experienced that that which is said to be good, is good.

So, to the question, is death good thing?

Looking at its origin as disclosed by the Bible, prima facie, death is bad because it was a cessation of something good like when a sweet party was going on and then suddenly armed beasts called army or kidnappers come to stop it.

However, if a you were a slave tortured daily, or a person having a misery full living as many have confessed death appears to be a good thing.

But the badness of death is again reconfirmed by the fact that those with misery full living still do not easily and readilly throw themselves into its mouth.

Meanwhile, we have also seen certain people who have expressed a strong willingness to die and they did jump into the waiting mouth of death, so to them, it is a good thing

So i submit. death is about 90% bad and 10% good.

So basically ending a bad thing is good and ending a good thing is bad?

Everyday247:
Whether death is good or not depends on the situation. The definition of good also varies depending on situation.
Personally, i think that if you've lived your life to the fullest, then death is just an eternal rest/retirement.
Death is very useful because life will eventually get boring. Anything that you do too much will always eventually get boring. If you ate fried rice and chicken everyday for a long period of time it will eventually get boring.
Just as light without darkness is meaningless, beauty without uglyness is meaningless, good without evil is meaningless, richness without poverty is meaningless, intelligence without stupidity is meaningless, joy without sadness is meaningless, work without play is meaningless, so therefore LIFE without DEATH is meaningless.
The opposite of something Helps us to appreciate that thing better.

But is it good or bad?

EnlightenedUFO:


I believe what you think is good or bad is subjective to your belief.

There's no absolute way to clarify what death can be. People die horrific cruel deaths and some people call it a bad death, and some die in their old age, sitting on the beach or having a cookout while their grandkids are playing in the background, and that some people will call a good death.

But I don't think a death is either good or bad. It's just an inevitable stage of life we will all pass through.

I think you are a talking of DYING. I mean the state of being dead, never mind how you got to that state.

LordReed:


I dread it too but is ending bad? We read books we wish didn't end but that isn't bad is it?

Well, I'm not exactly a book now, am I my Lord? And to be honest, this is more like a book regretting its reading ended and its gone back on the shelf to gather dust. If it could talk, there'd be a battle for attention.

Ending comes to us all whether we like it or not. Our only hope is a long life before it arrives, but when it arrives, we're dust.

StillDtruth:


Wrong!

Timubu is living life to the full like Queen Eliza, surely he does not want to die. So life isn't boring and as developed countries have shown, light without nepa taking light is not meaningless.

I did not say that Life is boring, I said if you lived very long (like over 150 years) life would start to get boring. I even gave an analogy using fried rice and chicken, if you ate fried rice and chicken everyday for like 2 years plus, you'd get bored of it.
Also the absence/opposite of something makes you treasure that thing there by giving it meaning. For example, if humans were immortal and ageless we wouldn't treasure life because we would have excess of it. But because life has an end and we can die anytime due to accidents/illnesses, it makes us treasure our lives.

LordReed:


But is it good or bad?

Good and bad are subjective and conditional.
E.g
Death can be good for someone who had lived a very long and fulfilling life, but can be bad for someone who had a short, unfulfilled life.

LordReed:

So basically ending a bad thing is good and ending a good thing is bad?

C'mon don't pretend like you did not understand what I said. No where did i say ending a bad thing is good and ending a good thing is bad.

Everyday247:
Good and bad are subjective and conditional.
E.g
Death can be good for someone who had lived a very long and fulfilling life, but can be bad for someone who had a short, unfulfilled life.

Why would it be bad in the second case?

StillDtruth:


C'mon don't pretend like you did not understand what I said. No where did i say ending a bad thing is good and ending a good thing is bad.

Huh? So you don't think ending a bad thing is good?

Everyday247:
I did not say that Life is boring, I said if you lived very long (like over 150 years) life would start to get boring. I even gave an analogy using fried rice and chicken, if you ate fried rice and chicken everyday for like 2 years plus, you'd get bored of it.
Also the absence/opposite of something makes you treasure that thing there by giving it meaning. For example, if humans were immortal and ageless we wouldn't treasure life because we would have excess of it. But because life has an end and we can die anytime due to accidents/illnesses, it makes us treasure our lives.

This is not True. Life's waning from 70's upwards is soley based soley on the Curse and Commadment of death levied upon man by His Maker. So the boredom and tastelessnes of life is as a result of man's shut down.

Thus, as our fore fathers have shown us through their long lives where they still went farming and dancing even at 100plus, when our Maker gave man life longer than 150years, a 150yrs old man was still as vibrant with the zest for life as a 25 year old man.

So the boredom you are drawing is as a result of shut down if not we would still be looking forward to fried rice when we are 1025years as we did when we started eating it at 3 years.

LordReed:


I dread it too but is ending bad? We read books we wish didn't end but that isn't bad is it?

Really? i don't think there is a good book which reasonable people did not wish for it to end because the end is the koko like having sex and finishing with a deep and satisfying orgasm.

No one is happy when they are left hanging!

LordReed:


Huh? So you don't think ending a bad thing is good?

C'mon man, don't change the issue.. All these was addressed in my post even with examples, so stop twisting it by pretending you did not understand my response.