Almunjid:

The point I was attempting to convey is that Middle Eastern cultures have a history of war and violence, making it difficult to establish lasting peace among their nations. This tendency towards conflict is deeply ingrained in their cultural dynamics and has hindered efforts to maintain harmony in the region.

Gat you now. I have never wished to be birthed there. From time immemorial those guys have been fighting.

LagosPrince:
This man is giving me joy

Keep sending the Muslim islam terrorists to their audio Virgins in hell

ISRAEL doing wonderful good job

Same thing people said about the holocaust

Almunjid:

The question is whether Jesus came to abolish the Law or the Prophets, or if he came to fulfill them instead. Which one?
Who told that "getting a sword" was used figuratively? Name your source please. If you believe that the sword mentioned by Jesus was used figuratively, then we Muslims also believe that the same interpretation is applicable to verses in the Qur'an that refer to war or battles? These verses are seen as figurative rather than literal commands to fight or kill?

Jesus asked Peter to sheath the sword as those who kill by sword will go by sword. It is obvious here that Jesus doesn't endorse violence.
I may agree with you that most of what Quran says might be fine figurative and people like you need to educate those with little understanding the right thing to do.

joemag:


Gat you now. I have never wished to be birthed there. From time immemorial those guys have been fighting.

You chose Nigeria instead because it's better than Middle East I guess. Good choice!

chrisxxx:

Jesus asked Peter to sheath the sword as those who kill by sword will go by sword. It is obvious here that Jesus doesn't endorse violence.
I may agree with you that most of what Quran says might be fine figurative and people like you need to educate those with little understanding the right thing to do.

Similarly, Allah says: "whoever kills a soul... it is as if he had slain mankind entirely" (Qur'an 5:32). From this verse, It is obvious here that Allah doesn't endorse violence either.

Sammy101111:
I wish you know the story when Israel 🇮🇱 was trying to invade Egypt and the Israel lost all there thousand is army till they sized fire and settle . Yet Israel will always say they win all war there another world war coming Israel is doing all this to gain region and land from other countries I swear and sending out the people the the county to claim victory and claim it .. I just pray they keep doing this shit to Muslim till people see their hypocrite behavior once Egypt 🇪🇬 enter the matter I will see how they will defeat all the Islamic nation surrounding it .

Which Israel lost thousands of their armies in Egypt?
Dey sofree lie baba, abi no be the 1956 Suez crisis you dey talk about ni?
Even if na Yom Kippur war, that one sef na Israel win am.

Softmirror:


Direct confrontation is new to Israel too. The point is. Iran is not afraid of war.

Direct confrontation new to Israel wey dey directly confront Hamas right now?
The same Israel that has gone into direct confrontation with a coalition of Arab nation's many times in the past and often wins the war most times if not at all times?

Sammy101111:
Just let Israel be doing muscle flexing they should remember they are surrounded by Muslim nations and country they will not be able to take the hit when the war start . Afghanistan , Iran , Egypt Israel as attack this nations just let the war continue a see we’re Israel will end up .

Then you're not a good student of history, go into your history book and learn alaye. More Arab nations in addition to the ones you listed have ganged up to attack Israel before, they got their nose bloodied and ran back home with their tail between their legs. 😂😂

Sammy101111:



Now I know you don’t know history Egypt defeated Israel but Israel will not never announce it lost or announce the dead number of is people use google and check or search for the history and see how israel 🇮🇱 people die while attacking Egypt by land

E be like say you're the author of this history you're talking about guy, kindly drop link o. Say na you only know history. How did the Yom Kippur war ended?

Sammy101111:



I just pray they keep trying to flex muscle they get attacking other countries.Israel is surrounded by Muslim nations so let them keep attacking the Muslim and let see how it will end for them .

They have been attacking them for decades guy, find another excuse asap cos this one is stale.

gassbee:
there is no evidence currently as we speak that Nasarallah was hit dead

Hope you've seen the evidence now?
Even Hezbollah don confirm am.

Almunjid:

You chose Nigeria instead because it's better than Middle East I guess. Good choice!

i prefer than there abeg

Almunjid:

Similarly, Allah says: "whoever kills a soul... it is as if he had slain mankind entirely" (Qur'an 5:32). From this verse, It is obvious here that Allah doesn't endorse violence either.

I think Allah and your author of Quran have a different mindset. Allah seems to be very peaceful and forgiven.

Almunjid:

The question is whether Jesus came to abolish the Law or the Prophets, or if he came to fulfill them instead. Which one?
Who told you that "getting a sword" was used figuratively? Name your source please. If you believe that the sword mentioned by Jesus was used figuratively, then we Muslims also believe that the same interpretation is applicable to verses in the Qur'an that refer to war or battles? These verses are seen as figurative rather than literal commands to fight or kill.

Keep deceiving yourselves! How many people did Jesus and even his deciples kill with that sword, just mention "2" ? Just two people Jesus and his disciples killed in their time. Put here the references, you can't find any; except you want to keep deceiving yourself. But numbers of people Mohammad and his companions killed directly and indirectly are uncountable.

If Jesus killed with that sword, it means christians will also be practicing killing with sword today. And if christians are also killing with that sword, then it means Islam will not exist today because christians would have eradicated Islam from the surface of the earth since Christianity came more than 600yrs before Islam. Christians would have used their influences that they are richer than Muslims worldwide, more populous than Muslims, more educated and in charge of world power (USA) to eradicate Islam.

So, for Islam to be in existence today means that sword you mentioned was not used by Jesus to kill. Christians are people that practice conduct of Christ, so they did not see him using that sword to kill, so christians never inherited that killing practices and is what gives Islam opportunity to exist today.

chrisxxx:

I think Allah and your author of Quran have a different mindset. Allah seems to be very peaceful and forgiven.

What's the difference between Allah and the author of the Qur'an?

Help us reach sambisa and or Asssso rok

Almunjid:

What's the difference between Allah and the author of the Qur'an?

Someone can pass a message and the messenger interpolate it.

sreamsense:

Keep deceiving yourselves! How many people did Jesus and even his deciples kill with that sword, just mention "2" ? Just two people Jesus and his disciples killed in their time. Put here the references, you can't find any; except you want to keep deceiving yourself. But numbers of people Mohammad and his companions killed directly and indirectly are uncountable.

If Jesus killed with that sword, it means christians will also be practicing killing with sword today. And if christians are also killing with that sword, then it means Islam will not exist today because christians would have eradicated Islam from the surface of the earth since Christianity came more than 600yrs before Islam. Christians would have used their influences that they are richer than Muslims worldwide, more populous than Muslims, more educated and in charge of world power (USA) to eradicate Islam.

So, for Islam to be in existence today means that sword you mentioned was not used by Jesus to kill. Christians are people that practice conduct of Christ, so they did not see him using that sword to kill, so christians never inherited that killing practices and is what gives Islam opportunity to exist today.

Lol. It's amusing to consider that someone might deceive themselves by ignoring the presence of war and violence in Arab and Jewish cultures. Equally delusional is the belief that America, a secular country, is a Christian nation. The United States has long since distanced itself from Christianity and religious governance.

Who could be more misguided than Christians who believe they embody Christ's teachings yet, when questioned about what they truly have in common with Jesus, struggle to find an answer? Their current patterns of worship deviate significantly from Christ's example. For instance, can you reference a verse where Jesus encouraged singing, clapping, or beating drums during worship? These practices demonstrate that modern Christians are engaging in a religion different from the one Jesus originally preached. Don't give references from Torah; since many of you are arguing that Christians don't follow old law.

Throughout this discussion, you have been trying to prolong the argument, even when you lack valid points to make. You seem unwilling to acknowledge that Arab and Jewish cultures have historically contained elements of war and violence. Instead, you have repeatedly attempted to shift the focus towards Islam, blaming the religion rather than the cultural tendencies of Arabs and Jews for their violent history.

sweetjohn:
Israel is bigger, stronger, more educated by far, more technologize by far, more civilized and developed, than Iran and all its proxies combined. All those fools that were giving Iran and Hezbollah credit over Israel should all cover their faces and bow to their master Israel in defeat.

Look. Might is not by making mouth and showcasing useless missiles every week just like Russia, China, North Korea and Iran are fond of doing, intimidating the whole world to fear, it is by action just the way Israel is doing. Israel dont go about intimidating every country with nukes eventhough the have a high profile nuke, infact, they never admitted having one. But when the time comes, the world will know. Israel dont go about threatening Iran and its proxies of device explosives in their pocket but when the time comes Hezbollah knows of that capability of Israel. Just as Natanyahu have said, if by now Hezbollah have not got the message then they should, that is after the killing of 16 of its high profile terrorists in the same second of the same day.

War is not won on papers and by the number of missiles one possesses, neither is it won on social media or even the media. Israel have proven to the whole world that war is not won by the above mentioned. From the start of the war, all medias and social medias said Israel will be defeated. Israel kept quiet and do the action but today they are all crying 'free free palestine' and 'free free Lebanon'.

Where is Iran? Is it until Israel destroy the liver and intestine of their supreme Leader before they will sermon courage and fight Israel? Or will they continue to hide like a loser they are under the guise of 'verbal death threat to Israel and America'

You forgot to add that one of Hamas Leader was killed in Iran

Goodman2023:

Anthony Joshua has never fought Tyson fury same way iran has never fought Israel...why sponsor others to get killed by Israel...if Iran is man enough, then let them test and see

let USA back off so we can see

chrisxxx:

Someone can pass a message and the messenger interpolate it.

Interpolation of the Qur'an is impossible, as Allah declares in Surah 15:9, "We have, without doubt, sent down the Message (Qur'an); and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)." However, it is possible that some Muslims or contemporary Islamic scholars might misinterpret the text for selfish reasons. This phenomenon is not unique to Islam, as Christian scholars have similarly misinterpreted the Bible for personal gain. Prophet Jeremiah acknowledged this issue, explaining that scribes had altered and misinterpreted the scripture, rendering it untruthful. This claim is corroborated in Jeremiah 8:8, where it says, "How can you say, “We are wise because we have the word of the LORD,” when your teachers (scribes) have twisted it by writing lies?" Even the Bible itself admits that its contents have been subjected to interpolation. So, I equally think Jehovah and the author of your Bible have a different mindset. Jehovah seems to be very peaceful and forgiven. I have effectively turned the tables.

Almunjid:

Lol. It's amusing to consider that someone might deceive themselves by ignoring the presence of war and violence in Arab and Jewish cultures. Equally delusional is the belief that America, a secular country, is a Christian nation. The United States has long since distanced itself from Christianity and religious governance.

Who could be more misguided than Christians who believe they embody Christ's teachings yet, when questioned about what they truly have in common with Jesus, struggle to find an answer? Their current patterns of worship deviate significantly from Christ's example. For instance, can you reference a verse where Jesus encouraged singing, clapping, or beating drums during worship? These practices demonstrate that modern Christians are engaging in a religion different from the one Jesus originally preached. Don't give references from Torah; since many of you are arguing that Christians don't follow old law.

Throughout this discussion, you have been trying to prolong the argument, even when you lack valid points to make. You seem unwilling to acknowledge that Arab and Jewish cultures have historically contained elements of war and violence. Instead, you have repeatedly attempted to shift the focus towards Islam, blaming the religion rather than the cultural tendencies of Arabs and Jews for their violent history.

I laughed at your ignorance. You left your initial point of discussion to deviate to dancing and clapping. If anybody is to correct christians, most educated religion on earth, is it Muslims that are full of illiterates will tell Christians how to serve God? If USA is not a christian nation, is it an Arab nations? Why do you tribe in ignorance despite lots of ways you can make research, yet you choose be ignorant. Is it even difficult to type in AI or internet : "Why is USA considered as christian nation?" Or similar query before you wrote nonsense? And you want me to waste my time with someone below mediocrity like you to argue irrelevant thing?

I have already proven to you why that sword is never for christians to fight, otherwise there won't be Islam today because christians would have used that sword to kill all Muslims prematurely before it gets to present age of terrorism. I asked for you to give me just two people that Jesus and his disciples killed, you could not provide any only to come with deviation tactics on where they clap and dance in the Bible.

Jesus is full of love and compassion unlike Mohammad that was always full of anger, war, beheading etc. Have you ever asked yourself why is it that 98% of all world terrorists are Muslims? Why? Is Islam the only religion people always offend? Why not Hindus, why not christians, why not even pagan? Why only Islam?

Soldiers of Allah are right now in the bushes all over the world planning how to come out once in a while to bomb church and kill people, then run back to their enclaves to observe next Solat prayer to Mohammad and his messanger. Jesus is full of love, come to him; he is ever ready to accept you and forgive your sins because he has power to do so

sreamsense:


I laughed at your ignorance. You left your initial point of discussion to deviate to dancing and clapping. If anybody is to correct christians, most educated religion on earth, is it Muslims that are full of illiterates will tell Christians how to serve God? If USA is not a christian nation, is it an Arab nations? Why do you tribe in ignorance despite lots of ways you can make research, yet you choose be ignorant. Is it even difficult to type in AI or internet : "Why is USA considered as christian nation?" Or similar query before you wrote nonsense? And you want me to waste my time with someone below mediocrity like you to argue irrelevant thing?

I have already proven to you why that sword is never for christians to fight, otherwise there won't be Islam today because christians would have used that sword to kill all Muslims prematurely before it gets to present age of terrorism. I asked for you to give me just two people that Jesus and his disciples killed, you could not provide any only to come with deviation tactics on where they clap and dance in the Bible.

Jesus is full of love and compassion unlike Mohammad that was always full of anger, war, beheading etc. Have you ever asked yourself why is it that 98% of all world terrorists are Muslims? Why? Is Islam the only religion people always offend? Why not Hindus, why not christians, why not even pagan? Why only Islam?

Soldiers of Allah are right now in the bushes all over the world planning how to come out once in a while to bomb church and kill people, then run back to their enclaves to observe next Solat prayer to Mohammad and his messanger. Jesus is full of love, come to him; he is ever ready to accept you and forgive your sins because he has power to do so

Trash! The bolded part shows that you've been arguing without understanding the topic of discussion. What a shame! I've tried to stick to the topic of Middle Eastern (Arab and Jewish) violent culture throughout my write-ups, but it seems all you know how to do is argue off-point. Don't be angry if I don't respond to your next comment. I have more productive things to do than reply to your hogwash.

I get before no be property

Softmirror:


It doesn't make any difference. Go through their history as far back as when they were called Persia. People who have a very, very, very deep history of war can't be frightened by war. That is my point.

misreal:
The is no peace for the wicked.
This is the man God has sent to the wicked

🤣🤣🤣 Indeed

Almunjid:

Trash! The bolded part shows that you've been arguing without understanding the topic of discussion. What a shame! I've tried to stick to the topic of Middle Eastern (Arab and Jewish) violent culture throughout my write-ups, but it seems all you know how to do is argue off-point. Don't be angry if I don't respond to your next comment. I have more productive things to do than reply to your hogwash.

Which comment do you even want to respond to when you have already shown your ignorance through your previous comments? Give me two people Jesus and his disciples killed, but you can not. Search internet or AI, you can't find any; this already shown your ignorance in your previous comment that Jesus used the sword to kill but you can't point out just two people he killed. But if we do same thing about Mohammad and his companion killing, you will not be able to scroll the long list of their killings to the end. So, you don't have any sensible comment before, how will I expect next sensible comment from you? You can't give what you don't have. You are a Muslim today because Jesus did not use that sword to kill talkless of christians following it. If christians follow that practice, Islam can not exist till this age.

Is it the culture of violence that pushed hamas to go and kill Isrealis on their soil unprovoked despite lots of existing religions in the middle east? Why is only Islam out of all religions in the middle east that always look for troubles? Other religions don't have issue with Isreal, it is only Islam that Mohammad and Quran commanded to fight Jews and Christians that are following their culture of middle east violence, keep dancing on the podium of ignorance and self-deceit. Islam breeds terrorism, the earlier you agree with that the better for you to join Islamic reform queue

Softmirror:


I am so glad you can see the angle I am coming from. The whole of that peninsula knows nothing but war. Please tell me, is Palestine as powerful as Iran?! The Palestinians life is a very devastating one. The question is does it make them relent? It has always made them stronger in will. If Israel strike Iran, it doesn't make any difference ceejay10 they are a people used to war.

And you think Israel is not used to war? Instead of you to tell your fellow terrorist Islamists to accept that Israel is stronger then them and embrace peace you're pushing them further to destruction? How are you lots now better ran Nnamdi Kanu and his headstrong ipob or Boko haram?
Are your aware that Bennett did not last 3 months as Prime minister before he was forced to resign and Netanyahu brought back when the Israelites saw that the Arabs are not really ready for peace. Same Bennett is now one of the commanders of the Isreali Air force bombing your fellow terrorists to smithereens. See, Israel don't mind wiping off all those guys. So it was with Sharon, Barak and now Netanyahu. So don't think the Arabs have monopoly of madness

Kukutenla:

And you think Israel is not used to war? Instead of you to tell your fellow terrorist Islamists to accept that Israel is stronger then them and embrace peace you're pushing them further to destruction? How are you lots now better ran Nnamdi Kanu and his headstrong ipob or Boko haram?
Are your aware that Bennett did not last 3 months as Prime minister before he was forced to resign and Netanyahu brought back when the Israelites saw that the Arabs are not really ready for peace. Same Bennett is now one of the commanders of the Isreali Air force bombing your fellow terrorists to smithereens. See, Israel don't mind wiping off all those guys. So it was with Sharon, Barak and now Netanyahu. So don't think the Arabs have monopoly of madness

War wey dem don dey fight since Abraham, Ismael and Isaac?!

Softmirror:

War wey dem don dey fight since Abraham, Ismael and Isaac?!

Exactly!! So what exactly are you gloating about not getting tired?

Kukutenla:

Exactly!! So what exactly are you gloating about not getting tired?

The Jews are in the best position to answer your question.

Softmirror:


The Jews are in the best position to answer your question.

But you're here claiming Hamas and Hezbollah will not get tired as if that should bother Israel.
Stay one place

Kukutenla:

But you're here claiming Hamas and Hezbollah will not get tired as if that should bother Israel.
Stay one place

How did Hamas and Hezbollah come about? You see, the answer is with the Jews.