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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by amodu(m): 9:18am
airmark:


Maybe you didn't have data when I was asking for 1 LWF that could dribble in tight spaces and Timbros was strongly against it.

Had we got a clinical finisher, we would have beaten Crystal Palace and be leading the table now and become a strong contender for the trophy after spending over 1bn on players.

My opinion on football is too complex for casuals and my high expectation of a striker is alien to Gen Z Chelsea fans. But that's not my problem.

Jackson burying this chance would have seen us topping the table today, but most of you wouldn't see it.

Perhaps you shouldn't have opposed the assertion prioritizing support cast. It's conflicting to oppose that and at the same time desirous of a LWF.

The idea of reinforcement is to get the job done by winning us games and that is happening already. Castigating a player who has outscored all EPL strikes bar Haaland and Duran, and complemented it with 3 assists is hatred taken too far.

Gen Z? That shouldn't be me. I am mate with your elders on here.

You need to know that dogmatism is not the same as discernment.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amigoss: 9:27am
popizaino:


That would be in the next life.

Not improbable grin,even the two we have conceded were brain farts from our defence
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 9:27am
We are still playing chaos ball just like under Poch which is bringing in results. What we saw in pre season with what we are playing now is totally different. We have Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Newcastle and Aston villa in our next six league matches. Enzo is about to face a baptism of fire. All these talk of topping table and being contenders after 6 games are so premature and hilarious.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amigoss: 9:32am
airmark:


Maybe you didn't have data when I was asking for 1 LWF that could dribble in tight spaces and Timbros was strongly against it.

Had we got a clinical finisher, we would have beaten Crystal Palace and be leading the table now and become a strong contender for the trophy after spending over 1bn on players.

[b]My opinion on football is too complex for casuals and my high expectation of a striker is alien to Gen Z Chelsea fans. [/b]But that's not my problem.

Jackson burying this chance would have seen us topping the table today, but most of you wouldn't see it.

Have you always had high expectations from your strikers or e just dey start,We all know Chelsea have always not been lucky with a deadly finisher,This is the return of your best ever striker and Legend.....

I wish to know your opinion about him back then grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:35am
amodu:


Perhaps you shouldn't have opposed the assertion prioritizing support cast. It's conflicting to oppose that and at the same time desirous of a LWF.

.

Spending over 1bn without a clinical finisher, is foolishness. That's why we are not topping the table today. I was all about focusing more on our attack and we tried but we still failed to bag a clinical finisher. We should be eyeing the title and not reason like Aston Villa fans.


amodu:


The idea of reinforcement is to get the job done by winning us games and that is happening already. Castigating a player who has outscored all EPL strikes bar Haaland and Duran, and complemented it with 3 assists is hatred taken too far.


This is how you detect a poor football analyst of a striker. How many big chances did other strikers get? Only yesterday, we saw the number of big chances he missed because of lack of instinct in front of goal. Like Jackson, you are a joke.

amodu:

Gen Z? That shouldn't be me. I am mate with your elders on here.

You need to know that dogmatism is not the same as discernment.

If you were truely supporting Chelsea before 2000 like me, and still ok with a striker that can't strike the ball, then you are 100% a casual fan. You shouldn't have watched strikers like Hasselbaink, Flo, Drogba, Costa and be comfortable with Jackson's feeble attempts at goal.

It's like you are an elder with a childish football brain.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:44am
Amigoss:


Have you always had high expectations from your strikers or e just dey start,We all know Chelsea have always not been lucky with a deadly finisher,This is the return of your best ever striker and Legend.....

I wish to know your opinion about him back then grin

I analyse strikers based on chances they get and their conversion of chances. I have had this argument with Dayo and won't renew it with you. Drogba scored 29 goals when he played in an ultra attacking system.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amigoss: 9:45am
Despite having better players around him than jackson grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amigoss: 9:46am
airmark:


I analyse strikers based on chances they get and their conversion of chances. I have had this argument with Dayo and won't renew it with you. Drogba scored 29 goals when he played in an ultra attacking system.

Lmao cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Whizlight(m): 9:46am
Kimbeast:
We are still playing chaos ball just like under Poch which is bringing in results. What we saw in pre season with what we are playing now is totally different. We have Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Newcastle and Aston villa in our next six league matches. Enzo is about to face a baptism of fire. All these talk of topping table and being contenders after 6 games are so premature and hilarious.
Okay.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 9:50am
Altern8tor:

Dark times indeed.... Thank God for finally having mercy on Chelsea.... This reminds me of the days of Hazard, mata and Oscar... Goals and assists from everywhere... Chelsea really suffered after that set

We don dey suffer for the past 3 seasons dawg 😭

Finishing 12th... playing in the conference league

A whole Chelsea...let's enjoy the moment now abeg

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:51am
lordfalcao:
you can only show this still image to people who didn't watch the game

grin

Still image or still steel legs, too heavy to swiftly hit the ball? Thank God that Palmer wasn't as wasteful yesterday.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 9:59am
Enzo5:
ozil really, palmer has vision, high level technique, pass accuracy and shoot accuracy how many players in world football play 10 like palmer, did ozil has top quality goals and high number of goals
If only Hazard had the football brain of Palmer. He has that deadshot mentality
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lajid: 10:01am
airmark:


Spending over 1bn without a clinical finisher, is foolishness. That's why we are not topping the table today. I was all about focusing more on our attack and we tried but we still failed to bag a clinical finisher. We should be eyeing the title and not reason like Aston Villa fans.




This is how you detect a poor football analyst of a striker. How many big chances did other strikers get? Only yesterday, we saw the number of big chances he missed because of lack of instinct in front of goal. Like Jackson, you are a joke.



If you were truely supporting Chelsea before 2000 like me, and still ok with a striker that can't strike the ball, then you are 100% a casual fan. You shouldn't have watched strikers like Hasselbaink, Flo, Drogba, Costa and be comfortable with Jackson's feeble attempts at goal.

It's like you are an elder with a childish football brain.







Seriously ehnn, if Jackson can be clinical like costa or Palmer, he will be chasing Halaand for golden boot….

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amigoss: 10:05am
Kimbeast:

If only Hazard had the football brain of Palmer. He has that deadshot mentality

Ahhhhh cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DumaEmpire(m): 10:32am
Kimbeast:
We are still playing chaos ball just like under Poch which is bringing in results. What we saw in pre season with what we are playing now is totally different. We have Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Newcastle and Aston villa in our next six league matches. Enzo is about to face a baptism of fire. All these talk of topping table and being contenders after 6 games are so premature and hilarious.
Chelsea has never been a slow starter in the season.

If there's quality and competence it would be seen from the start of the season. If it's going to be a crap season it will also hlbe obvious from the start as well.
No be today we begin face Liverpool, Arsenal and co. We have a confident start to the season so there's no reason not to be optimistic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 10:37am
swiz123:


Jackson should secure a place in Senegal starting line up first.

I can't insult myself comparing him to a German indispensable first team player.
Numbers don't lie.

Jackson outscore Kai last season
Doing the same this season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EmmanuelScott1(m): 10:39am
airmark:


grin

Still image or still steel legs, too heavy to swiftly hit the ball? Thank God that Palmer wasn't as wasteful yesterday.

😂😂
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 10:40am
Sportsweb:
Numbers don't lie.

Jackson outscore Kai last season
Doing the same this season.

He should score of Senegal first or even start a dead rubber game for them in a tourney then let's start a conversation.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bluelines69: 11:24am
Kimbeast:
We are still playing chaos ball just like under Poch which is bringing in results. What we saw in pre season with what we are playing now is totally different. We have Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Newcastle and Aston villa in our next six league matches. Enzo is about to face a baptism of fire. All these talk of topping table and being contenders after 6 games are so premature and hilarious.

You have a strong point but a fit Lavia drastically reduces the chaos from the middle of the park to the back, there was this very risky pass from Sanchez to Lavia which he did a beautiful half turn, I immediately imagined Caicedo receiving that same pass, Sanchez too doesn’t help with his jittery passes
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 11:25am
airmark:


grin

Still image or still steel legs, too heavy to swiftly hit the ball? Thank God that Palmer wasn't as wasteful yesterday.
I don't need to argue with you.

Anybody who watched that game knew that was a well taken shot, which was blocked by a Defender.

Jackson did everything there excellently

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:28am
Unlimited22:

They have conceded just two this season.


I will be sitting on their matter henceforth. They must start conceding a goal per match.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 11:28am
airmark:


Maybe you didn't have data when I was asking for 1 LWF that could dribble in tight spaces and Timbros was strongly against it.

Had we got a clinical finisher, we would have beaten Crystal Palace and be leading the table now and become a strong contender for the trophy after spending over 1bn on players.

My opinion on football is too complex for casuals and my high expectation of a striker is alien to Gen Z Chelsea fans. But that's not my problem.

Jackson burying this chance would have seen us topping the table today, but most of you wouldn't see it.
go and sleep.

Chelsea has 15 goals.

Jackson has a hand in 7 of it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:29am
Whizlight:
😂😂 make dem dey play. Havertz made me hate Chelsea and no matter how bad Jackson is I will pick him over havertz every fvcking day

How someone watch that thing consistently and still calls him a generational talent is very baffling .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:30am
Griffon:


Someone said Palmer is overrated on this thread actually cheesy

He wasn't even in support of his signing in the first place.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:33am
swiz123:


When your useless Saka stops having brain freeze in vital moments.


Regardless, he should be able to gift Arsenal the ucl since he is de facto for our ucl win.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:46am
EmmanuelScott1:


😂😂

Agility ladder and stopwatch are used to drill such heavy legs in sessions (fast footwork). How would I convince Lordfalcao, who doesn't even know what an agility ladder is?.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:02pm
lajid:


Seriously ehnn, if Jackson can be clinical like costa or Palmer, he will be chasing Halaand for golden boot….

I tell you. He had like 4 1v1s yesterday.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 12:05pm
I'm I the only one that feel that Sancho goal was onside?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:25pm
airmark:


Agility ladder and stopwatch are used to drill such heavy legs in sessions (fast footwork). How would I convince Lordfalcao, who doesn't even know what an agility ladder is?.

So you are inevitably saying that you know about some training methods that the whole Chelsea apparatus is not privy to.

Even God is facepalming at this point.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:39pm
lajid:


Seriously ehnn, if Jackson can be clinical like costa or Palmer, he will be chasing Halaand for golden boot….

And if my Grandma had wheels, she would have been a bike.

Maresca understands the Jackson moves the ball during build-up play with alacrity; which allows his system to work effectively. The system relies on all support casts arriving in the box for a higher xG. Maresca understands that the sacrifice is that Jackson is not as clinical as Haaland, and he still misses a handful..... but the collective team effort will be better for it.

It's very similar to what Maresca said about Sanchez's mistakes yesterday.

Remove Jackson, put Osimhen, and xG for all support casts probably reduces. Osimhen probably doesn't even get to be in position to miss the chances that Jackson is missing in the first place. Overall movement, fluidity and collective effort reduces, which could reflect on overall scoring output.... whereas Osimhen might be topping the charts in the league.

This is how system football works. It does not mean that "removing this player for that player", and now everything starts to click. The only way it works better is if you can find a player that combines the best qualities of Jackson and Haaland.

Don't let actors like Airmark tell you otherwise. grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:40pm
swiz123:


I have watched Saka over the years and realized that the mumu's confidence peaks when he sees below average defenders. When Arsenal meets an equally strong opponent, Utaka becomes an upgrade on Saka. Fraudster will start forming imaginary pain and limping so he could be excused for the day.

I wasn't satisfied with Palmer's game as a winger and I am sure I wasn't the only one. I suggested he should be moved centrally where his quality can be made most effective. Almost immediately, I knew he is miles ahead of Saka whom you shockingly labeled a world class player. At the Euros, Saka who started 7 games scored the same number goal contribution as Palmer who started non and played less than half of Saka's minutes.

Havertz in 5 games has more contribution than Saka at the euros. And if he cowered like Saka does in vital moments, we wouldn't have that UCL. Saka tumbled over Neuer's perfectly placed leg looking for a fraudulent penalty while Havertz dribbled Ederson brilliantly and slotted home to win us the Champions League. To me, these two scenarios sums up whatever comparison you wish to bring.


You are not in any position to lecture anyone on Cole Palmer whom you weren't in support of his signing in the first.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DumaEmpire(m): 1:29pm
DumaEmpire:
It still boils to the coach. With Costa, Hazard, Pedro we didn't get past the RO16 in the UCL with all their experience. But Tuchel won the UCL with likes of Mount nd Havertz.

If i also recall these guys also finished 10th the season before Conte came in and twerked his system in and we won the EPL. Poch experimenting on what he knows little about. Clearly not being decisive enough on his team selection nd performance. The only reason Enzo is stepping up to pick the pk is clearly cos there was no planning on who plays it. Enzo was missing empty net in preseason there's no way he wouldn't have missed that. No technique.
As a coach you got to have a plan ahead before time not useless experiments. We look very mid cos of his selections
To be honest we really suffered under this guy. After 2 matches in the season i knew he was going to be crap. I didn't even bother coming here to argue with anybody after this rant.

Maresca God bless you abeg. Poch gave most of us headaches after each matchday.

Like i said earlier you don't need to first watch 20 games to know if your team has what it takes or not. Just a couple of games is enough to know the direction

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