iamtoby:
Hi. I have been trying to make payment online for the Canada application to no avail. tried both USD and Naira cards but was unsusscessful. What other options are available to make payment, please. Would appreciate any guidance anyone here can provide. Thanks so much.

Try to use another browser. You should also note that credit cards or bank cards with naira values cannot be used.

I didn't use an agent, I applied myself. The application portal has still not been updated. Yet to get a decision

Ashirioluwa:


When an application is closed, then a decision has been made on that application.

Check with your agent or login to your application portal to check the full status of your application.

Jeboy:
With all the info here it baffles me ppl are still patronizing agents over DIY. Nobody can confirm if your VFS appointment is fake here.

This is the same manner we prefer to reach God via "agents" when you can have access directly. May God have mercy on our lazy attitudes.

Please how are you able to do so, my account have been locked for 24hours, then 2hours to come back and also not received OTP as well. The process havent been seamless.

Gooday all, please I want to seek advise the best way to respond to my visa refusal with below remarks and also is it better to reapply from Nigeria?

I applied visit visa purpose for tourism for me, wife and two kids from middle east (OMAN) using the old portal last year April and we got refused November last year.

We have enough proof of funds both local currency and Nigeria bank statement, with company letter from the employers.

We have valid USA visa and other expired Schengen visas

We included landed property documents and company registration documents both in Naija and abroad but they rejected the visa application after 7 months with below remarks as follows:

Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/ services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/ index.html). I am refusing your application. • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors: • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application. • Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence. • Your immigration status outside your country of nationality or habitual residence. • You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.

Please what's the best way to reapply, from Nigeria or the same country of residence?

Please quickly ask for a reconsideration with ur pof mbs letter of reference letter from the bank. Hopefullythey would reconsider

Derende:
I didn't use an agent, I applied myself. The application portal has still not been updated. Yet to get a decision

In your first post which i replied, u boasted that it was pfl that was sent to d guy, and that was wot i tried to clarify. The msg he got on july 5th would probably be anything which only him would be able to find out what d msg is all about. I only pointed out that you shouldn't give the young guy unnecessary high jump to start thinking about ban.

But thank God u have rephrased ur msg here by saying that the msg could be refusal or ban.

uchennay:


I laugh at you and your lame explanation to defend an agent you don't know. Let the guy order GCMS notes and then come back here. You will see the truth the agent is hiding! It's either a refusal or a ban, and the agent already has the information but is just pretending! I know agent manipulation when a visa is refused or the applicant is banned—that’s when agents suddently claim they lost email access or it another ghost visa agent that is processing it and they lost contact!

Do one have a better chance applying on the new portal compared to the old portal? house kindly advise.

angie88:
In your first post which i replied, u boasted that it was pfl that was sent to d guy, and that was wot i tried to clarify. The msg he got on july 5th would probably be anything which only him would be able to find out what d msg is all about. I only pointed out that you shouldn't give the young guy unnecessary high jump to start thinking about ban.

But thank God u have rephrased ur msg here by saying that the msg could be refusal or ban.

You argue blindly sometimes. You previously argued there was no message on the 5th, and now you're trying to drag God into an irrelevant topic by saying the message can be anything. Please use your inner thoughts, because the mere fact that the agent denied receiving any message is a red flag. Let me give you some advice: as you travel to Canada on a visitor visa, encourage your husband to focus on the PR route, because PR is no longer guaranteed for students and u can see ur visit visa duration is link to ur spouse study duration which maximum 2 years. Even the PGWP will be a significant challenge ahead, as Canada is targeting visitor visas and students to reduce the numbers and limit the path to PR. I wish you all the best!

@DRisingsun

This is strange because when an applicant has a US visa, the tendency that his or her Canada visa application will be approved is very high.

And in most cases, the applicant will not be asked to provide any document except his passport and the national identity (NIN).

Anyway, since the application processing time in Oman is faster compared to Nigeria, maybe you should apply alone and wait for the outcome before you put in that of your wife and kids.

In your next application, ensure that you indicate that you hold a US visa, and remember to include the Canada visa refusal as well.

Since you have a US visa. I will advise you to comply with their request and just attach only the documents requested. Avoid putting your application at risk by attaching unnecessary documents.

DRisingsun:
Gooday all, please I want to seek advise the best way to respond to my visa refusal with below remarks and also is it better to reapply from Nigeria?

I applied visit visa purpose for tourism for me, wife and two kids from middle east (OMAN) using the old portal last year April and we got refused November last year.

We have enough proof of funds both local currency and Nigeria bank statement, with company letter from the employers.

We have valid USA visa and other expired Schengen visas

We included landed property documents and company registration documents both in Naija and abroad but they rejected the visa application after 7 months with below remarks as follows:

Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/ services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/ index.html). I am refusing your application. • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors: • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application. • Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence. • Your immigration status outside your country of nationality or habitual residence. • You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.

Please what's the best way to reapply, from Nigeria or the same country of residence?

This type of refusal is often associated with foreigners living in Arab countries like UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan.l have a friend in a similar situation who applied early this year and was refused .

A lot of provinces have shut down post-graduation path to PR for students except for MBA and Masters program.

For instance, just in September 17th or so, NB announced a halt of their PNP programme for Student connection because they have reached there caps. Na survival of the fittest now.

uchennay:



You argue blindly sometimes. You previously argued there was no message on the 5th, and now you're trying to drag God into an irrelevant topic by saying the message can be anything. Please use your inner thoughts, because the mere fact that the agent denied receiving any message is a red flag. Let me give you some advice: as you travel to Canada on a visitor visa, encourage your husband to focus on the PR route, because PR is no longer guaranteed for students and u can see ur visit visa duration is link to ur spouse study duration which maximum 2 years. Even the PGWP will be a significant challenge ahead, as Canada is targeting visitor visas and students to reduce the numbers and limit the path to PR. I wish you all the best!

How old are you again?

uchennay:



You argue blindly sometimes. You previously argued there was no message on the 5th, and now you're trying to drag God into an irrelevant topic by saying the message can be anything. Please use your inner thoughts, because the mere fact that the agent denied receiving any message is a red flag. Let me give you some advice: as you travel to Canada on a visitor visa, encourage your husband to focus on the PR route, because PR is no longer guaranteed for students and u can see ur visit visa duration is link to ur spouse study duration which maximum 2 years. Even the PGWP will be a significant challenge ahead, as Canada is targeting visitor visas and students to reduce the numbers and limit the path to PR. I wish you all the best!

Yes thanks for your reply, actually the old portal requires lots of documentation unlike the new portal which is quite simple.

Our application took 7 months to get finalized from April to november 2023. It took longer than the required waiting period.

So will it be of best interest to submit the application from Nigeria ?

Note that the same refusal note were given to each of us including the kids, I wanted to address all the comments in the new application for all of us.

Ashirioluwa:
@DRisingsun

This is strange because when an applicant has a US visa, the tendency that his or her Canada visa application will be approved is very high.

And in most cases, the applicant will not be asked to provide any document except his passport and the national identity (NIN).

Anyway, since the application processing time in Oman is faster compared to Nigeria, maybe you should apply alone and wait for the outcome before you put in that of your wife and kids.

In your next application, ensure that you indicate that you hold a US visa, and remember to include the Canada visa refusal as well.

Since you have a US visa. I will advise you to comply with their request and just attach only the documents requested. Avoid putting your application at risk by attaching unnecessary documents.

Boost your chance of study or Visit visa approval.

Secuing visa approval to most developed countries of the world such as Canada, U.K, U..S.A and the rest either for study, visit, medical is not a fluke especially at this period as applicants would need to strongly proof to the visa issuing officer evidences of home ties that would make the applicant return to his/her home country on or before the expiration of the duration granted.

Without mincing words, many visa applicants do belief that "fat" bank account statement is the only paramount document they need to secure a visa approval forgetting that visa officers are also keenly interested in documents that buttress the economic status of the applicant and home ties that could facilitate his/her return on or before visa expiration.

Though, it's good to have good financial banking status. However, strong economic home tie is the major key factor often considered by visa issuing officers most especially for non-immigrant visa applicants like visit, study, medical and so on. The visa officers are more concerned about the economic tie of an applicant to his/her home country as strong home ties that'll pull him/her back after the tenure of visit or study visa granted.

Some of the evidences of home tie are marriage certificate, employment letter, certificate of investment, child/children birth certificate, bank fixed deposit statement of account, etc.

Meanwhile, the top secret is the use of valuation report on landed property(ties) to butress the applicant's finacial status and strong tie to the homeland.

A valuation report is a document prepared by firms of duly Registered Estate Surveyors & Valuers showing the current market value(s) in monetary worth of your landed property(ties), use of the property (either residential as owner occupied or rented for income generation etc). So it can also be used as proof of additional source of income as the case may be or back up landed asset liquidated to raise huge deposit of fund on account.

Meanwhile, it's not enough to just submit landed property title documents as most applicants do (that will not state the current monetary worth of the prpperty), but a well detailed report that will state the current worth and demostrate how the property(ties) will motivate your departure after your study or vacation and how you plan to utilize the property (ties) upon your return to your home country.

Though it is expected that an applicant should have a certain required amount that would cover his/her expenses during the stay, but a valuation report would "tell more" about the economic/financial status of the applicant in his/her home country that could appeal to the visa issuing officer in making a favourable decision about the applicant.

Let's take for example, a single applicant for applicant for study visa to Canada is expected to have a minimum amount equivalent to CAD36,000 (depending on the tuition fee to cover a year) and an applicant is able to meet that and also has property or properties worth equivalent of about CAD40,000 (Forty Thousand Canadian Dollars) or more, that tells more that such an applicant is doing well in his/her home country and would likely not be a liability to the visiting country. To be more practical, imagine someone that has say N30m in the bank, married with children and has property(ties) worth N35m or more. Don't be surprised such an applicant may be granted visa and someone that has say N60m on account without any proof of asset(s) or strong home tie denied. A visa officer would feel more comfortable to grant an applicant with strong home tie on the ground that he/she have investments/assets back home, wife and children that would make him/her to return after the duration granted.

So often times, money in the bank alone might not guarantee you but other support documents like your property/assets valuation report could do the magic.

No doubt you might have documents like purchase receipt, survey plan, deed of assignment or contract of sale on the property but those documents can not give the current market value of the property as land is expected to appreciate in value over time. So only valuation report will State that. Land you bought five years ago cannot be same value in the present year and possibly you've built on it.

If you have savings which is equivalent or exceed the required amount, then your bank statement (not less than 3months) is a good proof of funds and if your money is split between several banks, you'll need to provide details of each to add up to the required amount or exceed if you have it.

This is what many are not aware of that money in property is probably the most widely used proof of source of fund. It is a known fact that people sell some property/ties owned in their home country before landing in canada or relocating to anywhere else and will use the proceed or equity to establish themselves after relocating and the remaining properties, it's a kind of high assuring factor that the applicant shall return to his/her home country upon completion of study or visit.

The immigration office appreciate the fact that you can sell property at the point you're required to supply the information/proof and has made allowances for that. Therefore, all you need do is to get a firm of Certified Estate Surveyors and Valuers that is "skilled" in writting this kind of report (cos some basic information that are to be included) to value the property and give a report stating opinion of the current market value of the property , such valuation report MUST be on the firm letter head, duly stamped, sealed and signed. The immigration body can then see how much equity you have on the valuation report.

If the property is on mortgage, you'll need to submit a mortgage statement from your lender showing how much money is owned on the property, then you submit a valuation report along with it to be able to see how much equity available to you on the property.

Meanwhile, if the property is an investment property, a rental valuation report can be submitted along with your application to proof/buttress your additional source of income. Therefore, a valuation report is not just a document but a very useful one that could facilitate your visa approva

DRisingsun:
Yes thanks for your reply, actually the old portal requires lots of documentation unlike the new portal which is quite simple.

Our application took 7 months to get finalized from April to november 2023. It took longer than the required waiting period.

So will it be of best interest to submit the application from Nigeria ?

Note that the same refusal note were given to each of us including the kids, I wanted to address all the comments in the new application for all of us.

The average processing time for visa applications from Oman is 46 days, compared to 174 days for those from Nigeria.

Anyway, no matter where you submit your application, the turnaround should be faster because of your US visa.

Visa applications submitted are routed to the IRCC office for processing based on the applicant's country of residence. 

Do you have Oman residency?

Ashirioluwa:


The average processing time for visa applications from Oman is 46 days, compared to 174 days for those from Nigeria.

Anyway, no matter where you submit your application, the turnaround should be faster because of your US visa.

Visa applications submitted are routed to the IRCC office for processing based on the applicant's country of residence. 

Do you have Oman residency?

Visa applications submitted from Nigeria are often directed to Nairobi, Kenya, while for Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, UAE, and Yemen, they are directed to Abu Dhabi. If you’re not applying for PR or a work permit, Abu Dhabi ,UAE is known for issuing this refusal line for student and visit visa — at least two of my friends who applied from Dubai received the same reason below but the third person came back to Nigeria and applied and got the visa ..l do not know why Abu Dhabi is difficult !!

'"Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence. Your immigration status outside your country of nationality or habitual residence. You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.'"

funkyy598:


Visa applications submitted from Nigeria are often directed to Nairobi, Kenya, while for Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, UAE, and Yemen, they are directed to Abu Dhabi. If you’re not applying for PR or a work permit, Abu Dhabi ,UAE is known for issuing this refusal line for student and visit visa — at least two of my friends who applied from Dubai received the same reason below but the third person came back to Nigeria and applied and got the visa ..l do not know where Abu Dhabi is difficult !!

'"Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence. Your immigration status outside your country of nationality or habitual residence. You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.'"

@DRisingsun

He should do it from Nigeria then

funkyy598:


Visa applications submitted from Nigeria are often directed to Nairobi, Kenya, while for Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, UAE, and Yemen, they are directed to Abu Dhabi. If you’re not applying for PR or a work permit, Abu Dhabi ,UAE is known for issuing this refusal line for student and visit visa — at least two of my friends who applied from Dubai received the same reason below but the third person came back to Nigeria and applied and got the visa ..l do not know why Abu Dhabi is difficult !!

'"Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence. Your immigration status outside your country of nationality or habitual residence. You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.'"

Oh really that's crazy, if that's what many people who apply from the middle east face.

Well I have residence permit for me and mY family.
During my last visa application we Already have US visa and we submitted copy of the visa. And I have travelled to UK, Australia, Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland and other countries. I attached land property documents, company docs and bank account etc.
The most annoying thing is that they wasted good 7 months in processing the application and still cane back with rejection.

So I am putting out to know if other people have faced similar issues. But it seems middle east issues.

There is a reason visa application is segmented that way per region for easy analysis/assessment of Applicants financial and asset stability in their respective region/residence.

I expect that anyone applying from UAE must have valid work permit residence and be doing well according to the UAE social status. They can easily see this from your earnings. If you fall below the standard class of course they will categorize you under not financially stable or viable which means you may be thinking of japaaing to Canada without returning back.

In other words you must be well established in UAE and even have properties/assets/business to stand a chance.

funkyy598:


Visa applications submitted from Nigeria are often directed to Nairobi, Kenya, while for Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, UAE, and Yemen, they are directed to Abu Dhabi. If you’re not applying for PR or a work permit, Abu Dhabi ,UAE is known for issuing this refusal line for student and visit visa — at least two of my friends who applied from Dubai received the same reason below but the third person came back to Nigeria and applied and got the visa ..l do not know why Abu Dhabi is difficult !!

'"Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence. Your immigration status outside your country of nationality or habitual residence. You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.'"

Ashirioluwa:



You can check it through the application portal if you have the login information. Below is the link for the new portal.

https://portal-portail.apps.cic.gc.ca/home?lang=en

Login and click on check full application status.

Thank you I'll do that now.

DRisingsun:



Oh really that's crazy, if that's what many people who apply from the middle east face.

Well I have residence permit for me and mY family.
During my last visa application we Already have US visa and we submitted copy of the visa. And I have travelled to UK, Australia, Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland and other countries. I attached land property documents, company docs and bank account etc.
The most annoying thing is that they wasted good 7 months in processing the application and still cane back with rejection.

So I am putting out to know if other people have faced similar issues. But it seems middle east issues.

what type of resident permit are you using in the middle east and what the validity?