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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 7:58pm On Sep 30
Former Chelsea owner, Abrahamovich is a Jew, and Russian too. And, According to Israel's Law of Return, if you have Jewish heritage, you are Israeli automatically.

Several of Putin's right-hand men are Jews (and Israelis, by extension) who have always been open about their dual citizenship. Abrahamovich was very open about it too.

Factor in how powerful the Jewish delegation is. Putin's inner circle being Israelis, but one guy on Nairaland thinks Russia would harm Israel's interests and Israel needs to bomb Russia with millions of Jews (who are also Israelis) to prove a point. The world doesn't end on the pages of Al Jazeera.

Funny.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Taguchi: 8:13pm On Sep 30
Are you guys following bibi's live address to the Iranian people

Aje say the liberation of the the "lovely Persians from tyrannical leadership will come sooner than later"

Man is definitely cooking something , the outcome will destabilise the entire region

Ballzproblem2 advice your uncle to calm down . Man is obviously bloodthirsty at this point
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:21pm On Sep 30
Taguchi:


Are you guys following bibi's live address to the Iranian people

Aje say the liberation of the the "lovely Persians from tyrannical leadership will come sooner than later"

Man is definitely cooking something , the outcome will destabilise the entire region

Ballzpro.blem2 advice your uncle to calm down . Man is obviously bloodthirsty at this point

It's the trending top on X. Bibi is literally calling for a coup. There's already tension in Iran since that 16-year-old girl was mûrdered.

I bet the Saudis would be creaming their pants in anticipation now.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:26pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


Obama stopped pushing for Assad's removal only after what became of Libya following Gadaffi's ousting and execution. There are no voids or vacuum in Middle East. What comes next is always more brutal. Assad remaining is a necessary evil. Better Assad than ISIS taking over. NATO knows this, Saudi knows this. Everyone knows this.

It's not the ruggedness of Putin as you'd like to believe it is.

This is a false & biased representation of historical fact. Because:
1) Obama and the US declared that Assad must go in 2011.
2) US partnered with terror groups like ISIS & Al Qaeda to overthrow Assad.
3) Assad approached Russia for military support in September 2015 when the Syrian rebel groups & opposition forces controlled more than 70% of Syrian territory. Man was on the brink of defeat.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nezzjnr: 8:29pm On Sep 30
Why is there too much attention on this VDM and Bob risky matter.

Is that going to solve the inflation and hunger in the Land when we have more pressing issues??

Which kind Country be this sef??

Watch how this matters will be stretched so as to distract Nigerians.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:37pm On Sep 30
Nezzjnr:
Why is there too much attention on this VDM and Bob risky matter.

Is that going to solve the inflation and hunger in the Land when we have more pressing issues??

Which kind Country be this sef??

Watch how this matters will be stretched so as to distract Nigerians.

It's just a useless distraction perfectly timed to take away attention from the planned October 1st protests.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Taguchi: 8:43pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


It's the trending top on X. Bibi is literally calling for a coup. There's already tension in Iran since that 16-year-old girl was mûrdered.

I bet the Saudis would be creaming their pants in anticipation now.

Much more than a coup, man is already hinting at a regime change in Iran

Talmbout" helping the beautiful Persian people overcome tyrannical oppression ASAP "

I think he has done enough for now make him rest
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 8:45pm On Sep 30
Taguchi:


Are you guys following bibi's live address to the Iranian people

Aje say the liberation of the the "lovely Persians from tyrannical leadership will come sooner than later"

Man is definitely cooking something , the outcome will destabilise the entire region

Ballzproblem2 advice your uncle to calm down . Man is obviously bloodthirsty at this point
the main threat(Hezbollah )has been neutralized ,thats why bibi has mouth to talk anyhow cheesy,i said it here Israel is more concerned about hezbo than iran ,hezbo is iran first line of defense,remove them and you are looking at defenseless iranian regime.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:47pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


This is a false & biased representation of historical fact. Because:
1)Obama and the US declared that Assad must go in 2011.
2) US partnered with terror groups like ISIS & Al Qaeda to overthrow Assad.
3) Assad approached Russia for military support in September 2015 when the Syrian rebel groups & opposition forces controlled more than 70% of Syrian territory. Man was on the brink of defeat.

True. But by 2014 - 2015, Obama's Middle East policy was slightly shifting. Was it not in 2016 he admitted interfering in Libya was the worst mistake of his administration? He had somehow made that obvious in 2015 so he stopped pushing for Assad's ousting.

By 2014, what came after Gaddafi was a banana republic, and terror groups were on rampage. It coincided with Boko Haram's most audacious attacks yet and proliferation of arms across West Africa.
Egypt was still reeling from the fallout of the Muslim Brotherhood fiasco and Mohammed Morsi.

It made sense to let Assad be. Too many Arab natuins with toppled leaders had gone to the dogs by then.

Assad remained president as a necessity. Everyone in know thought it best. If you didn't know it tells a lot about your knowledge of Middle East sociopolitics.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nezzjnr: 8:47pm On Sep 30
BlueRayDick:


It's just a useless distraction perfectly timed to take away attention from the planned October 1st protests.
It has been turned to a national issue.

I'm even surprised that our media houses are giving so much attention to it.

What's all these for goodness sake....Real madness oo
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:51pm On Sep 30
Ballzproblem2:
the main threat(Hezbollah )has been neutralized ,thats why bibi has mouth to talk anyhow cheesy,i said it here Israel is more concerned about hezbo than iran ,hezbo is iran first line of defense,remove them and you are looking at defenseless iranian regime.

"When Iran is finally free - and that moment would come sooner than people think, everyone would be free."
https://x.com/netanyahu/status/1840740049299583355

Bibi is crazy. It's almost like he's read Adam's challenge here about taking out ME country rulers and went, "You know what? Fûck it! I want the Ayatollah now."
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 8:54pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


"When Iran is finally free - and that moment would come sooner than people think, everyone would be free."
https://x.com/netanyahu/status/1840740049299583355

Bibi is crazy. It's almost like he's read Adam's challenge here about taking out ME country rulers and went, "You know what? Fûck it! I want the Ayatollah now."
Ayatollah lapdog nasarallah overplayed his card , Israel was on defense mode ,now they're on offense aint nobody stopping thek ,Hamas and Hezbollah has been neutralized leaving iran now exposed.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Taguchi: 8:57pm On Sep 30
Ballzproblem2:
the main threat(Hezbollah )has been neutralized ,thats why bibi has mouth to talk anyhow cheesy,i said it here Israel is more concerned about hezbo than iran ,hezbo is iran first line of defense,remove them and you are looking at defenseless iranian regime.

He has definitely been emboldened by his immense success with Hezbollah. The man obviously overrated Hezbollah just like oasis and okpa

Hezbolah cum prematurely now he's looking for action elsewhere.. grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 8:57pm On Sep 30
There's no way any sensible person will hear Netanyahu's statements today and think Ebrahim Raisi's death is coincidental. Even if you had doubt before, the guy has made it clear that IDF are going after the leaders of all their opps.

The guy said go and ask Nasrallah. Nah Bibi dey Nairaland grin grin cheesy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 9:05pm On Sep 30
Taguchi:


He has definitely been emboldened by his immense success with Hezbollah. The man obviously overrated Hezbollah just like oasis and okpa

Hezbolah cum prematurely now he's looking for action elsewhere.. grin
Hezbollah isn't overrated, israel played their card well they couldn't deal with Hamas and Hezbollah simultaneously,so they bear the brunt by focusing solely on hamas,gathered intel on hezbollah.struck when they knew hamas wont pose to their air defenses.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:07pm On Sep 30
Ballzproblem2:
Ayatollah lapdog nasarallah overplayed his card , Israel was on defense mode ,now they're on offense aint nobody stopping thek ,Hamas and Hezbollah has been neutralized leaving iran now exposed.

Even more instructive are the quotes and responses. I'm still skimming through them. Influential accounts and figures of Iranian origin whose timelines show they are involved in Iranian issues with their full names thanking Netanyahu and backing his call for regime change.

Local-search "Iran regime change" and "Iran coup" now on X.

Something is cooking. There was nothing random about all those bombings from Hamas to Hezbollah. It seems the whole idea was to ensure when it's time to come for the Ayatollah, he'd have no leverage or support.

Six hours since Bibi's speech was posted and no Arab nation has said anything condemning the call for coup. Not even influential Sunni figures always virtue-sgnalling on Twitter/X.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 9:10pm On Sep 30
Cold AF.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 9:18pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


True. But by 2014 - 2015, Obama's Middle East policy was slightly shifting. Was it not in 2016 he admitted interfering in Libya was the worst mistake of his administration? He had somehow made that obvious in 2015 so he stopped pushing for Assad's ousting.

By 2014, what came after Gaddafi was a banana republic, and terror groups were on rampage. It coincided with Boko Haram's most audacious attacks yet and proliferation of arms across West Africa.
Egypt was still reeling from the fallout of the Muslim Brotherhood fiasco and Mohammed Morsi.

It made sense to let Assad be. Too many Arab natuins with toppled leaders had gone to the dogs by then.

Assad remained president as a necessity. Everyone in know thought it best. If you didn't know it tells a lot about your knowledge of Middle East sociopolitics.


Mike Tyson said that;
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

Obama and the US policy shifted in Syria because they got punched by Russian hypersonic Iskander-M missiles etc. Till date, no Western made air defense system has intercepted it in Ukraine. Which NATO aircraft will enforce a no fly zone in Syria??

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 9:21pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


Even more instructive are the quotes and responses. I'm still skimming through them. Influential accounts and figures of Iranian origin whose timelines show they are involved in Iranian issues with their full names thanking Netanyahu and backing his call for regime change.

Local-search "Iran regime change" and "Iran coup" now on X.

Something is cooking. There was nothing random about all those bombings from Hamas to Hezbollah. It seems the whole idea was to ensure when it's time to come for the Ayatollah, he'd have no leverage or support.

Six hours since Bibi's speech was posted and no Arab nation has said anything condemning the call for coup. Not even influential Sunni figures always virtue-sgnalling on Twitter/X.
everything lies on Iran response ,or else nothing is cooking.If Iran takes Israel bait then we'll see some action .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:30pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


Mike Tyson said that;
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

Obama and the US policy shifted in Syria because they got punched by Russian hypersonic Iskander-M missiles etc. Till date, no Western made air defense system has intercepted it in Ukraine. Which NATO aircraft will enforce a no fly zone in Syria??

The U.S. Airforce, U.S. Army, and U.S. Navy have the first, second, and third largest fleet of fighter planes in the world, but you think Russia, with its relatively depleted airforce, is the sole barricade stopping the U.S. (plus NATO) from implementing no-fly-zones if it really wanted fo?

I've already painted the true picture of things; about how the unraveling of post-Gadaffi Libya made the U.S. (and NATO) reconsider ousting Assad (which you'd have known if your knowledge bank extended beyond Al Jazeera and RT).

Believe what you will; after all flat earthers still exist despite videos of the earth viewed from the ISS. smiley
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 9:35pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


This is a false & biased representation of historical fact. Because:
1)Obama and the US declared that Assad must go in 2011.
2) US partnered with terror groups like ISIS & Al Qaeda to overthrow Assad.
3) Assad approached Russia for military support in September 2015 when the Syrian rebel groups & opposition forces controlled more than 70% of Syrian territory. Man was on the brink of defeat.


This is correct.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 9:45pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


The U.S. Airforce, U.S. Army, and U.S. Navy have the first, second, and third largest fighter planes in the world but you think Russia with its relatively depleted airforce is the sole barricade stopping the U.S. (plus NATO) against implementing no-fly-zones if it really wanted fo?

NATO implemented a no fly zone Libya to take out pro Gaddafi forces . They failed to do that in Syria because Russia is there.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-syria-no-fly-zone-humanitarian-aid-besieged-areas-putin-assad/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war

Which yeye picture you paint? People like you also believe that Russian soldiers is fighting with shovels and hammer in Ukraine.
The first time an American made F-16 fighter jet saw real combat in Ukraine it crashed. The pilot died instanta.

Aircrafts wey never reach two months wey dem donate give Ukraine.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:58pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


NATO implemented a no fly zone Libya to take out pro Gaddafi forces . They failed to do that in Syria because Russia is there.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-syria-no-fly-zone-humanitarian-aid-besieged-areas-putin-assad/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war

Which yeye picture you paint? People like you also believe that Russian soldiers is fighting with shovels and hammer in Ukraine.
The first time an American made F-16 fighter jet saw real combat in Ukraine it crashed. The pilot died instanta.

Aircrafts wey never reach two months wey dem donate give Ukraine.

You are making my point. NATO implemented a no-fly embargo over Libya because it could. As early as March 2011 when Libya hadn't fallen, Russia kicked against NATO enforcing a no-fly-zone over Libya, but NATO dared Russia and went ahead to enforce it regardless. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/russia-slams-nofly-zone-plan-as-cracks-appear-in-libya-strategy-2229621.html
Russia couldn't do jack about it.

By 2015, Gaddafi had fallen. Libya had fallen to militants and terror groups. Egypt was smarting from the hold of the Muslim Brotherhood, Afghanistan was still a hot case... It made sense to let Assad and Syria be so NATO stopped trying to oust him else Syria would fall completely to ISIS too causing more instability.

You should read wide and have a good grasp on historical and current global sociopolitics instead of raiding Google's virtual archives on the spot to support whatever stance you decide on at any moment. Your arguments should first be based on facts you have already established from reading extensively.

Russia couldn't do shit about stopping NATO when the latter wanted no aircraft over Libya's airspace. If it wanted to in Syria to take Assad down in 2015, Russia was still the Russia from 4 years before in 2011 - weaker.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 10:08pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


NATO implemented a no fly zone Libya to take out pro Gaddafi forces . They failed to do that in Syria because Russia is there.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-syria-no-fly-zone-humanitarian-aid-besieged-areas-putin-assad/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war

Which yeye picture you paint? People like you also believe that Russian soldiers is fighting with shovels and hammer in Ukraine.
The first time an American made F-16 fighter jet saw real combat in Ukraine it crashed. The pilot died instanta.

Aircrafts wey never reach two months wey dem donate give Ukraine.
okpa watch this grin

i wish russia can just come for Alaska
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1840783650989789689
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 10:12pm On Sep 30
So far Israel army are operating in Lebanon unopposed 😪. paper tigers where are you.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:20pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:


You are making my point. NATO implemented a no-fly embargo over Libya because it could. As early as March 2011 when Libya hadn't fallen, Russia kicked against NATO enforcing a no-fly-zone over Libya, but NATO dared Russia and went ahead to enforce it regardless. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/russia-slams-nofly-zone-plan-as-cracks-appear-in-libya-strategy-2229621.html
Russia couldn't do jack about it.

By 2015, Gaddafi had fallen. Libya had fallen to militants and terror groups. Egypt was smarting from the hold of the Muslim Brotherhood, Afghanistan was still a hot case... It made sense to let Assad and Syria be so NATO stopped trying to oust him else Syria would fall completely to ISIS too causing more instability.

You should read wide and have a good grasp on historical and current global sociopolitics instead of raiding Google's virtual archives on the spot to support whatever stance you decide on at any moment. Your arguments should first be based on facts you have already established from reading extensively.

Russia couldn't do shit about stopping NATO when the latter wanted no aircraft over Libya's airspace. If it wanted to in Syria to take Assad down in 2015, Russia was still the Russia from 4 years before in 2011 - weaker.


NATO didn't dare Russia in Libya because Russia voted "YES" in the G-8 meeting that approved for a military intervention in Libya. Russia agreed that it was time for Gaddafi to go. Blame Gaddafi for not reaching a bilateral agreement with Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/27/g8-gaddafi-libya-russia

There's no Russia military base in Libya until 2020 i.e almost a decade in a post-Gaddafi Libya.

In Syria, the case is different.
Obama and the US said that Assad must go. Russia disagreed. The rest they say is history.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:23pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:



NATO didn't dare Russia in Libya because Russia voted "YES" in the G-8 meeting that approved for a military intervention in Libya. Russia agreed that it was time for Gaddafi to go. Blame Gaddafi for not reaching a bilateral agreement with Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/27/g8-gaddafi-libya-russia

There's no Russia military base in Libya until 2020 i.e almost a decade in a post-Gaddafi Libya.

In Syria, the case is different.
Obama and the US said that Assad must go. Russia disagreed. The rest they say is history.
Part of the info mentioned here was in the 'independent' link referenced by the person you are discussing with but the poster did not see it because the lamestream media did not capture it as the bottom line. That's how propaganda works.

I usually dismiss any arguments based on western propaganda. I am surprised people still feel justified by quoting such.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 10:24pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaIsBae, this was Russia being a 'yes boy' to NATO in 2014, planning a joint effort to destroy Syria's chemical weapons. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-russia-nato-plan-joint-operation-on-syrias-chemical-weapons-idUSBREA1D0Y3/

You would have unsuspecting people think Russia was the big bad wolf terrorizing NATO then and stopping it from kicking out Assad if it wanted to, but it was in reality a sidekick to NATO in the Syrian case.

Stop trying to rewrite history. Assad continuing on as President was more of NATO's benevolence and commonsense prevailing than Russia's ferociousness.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:24pm On Sep 30
Android17:
Part of the info mentioned here was in the 'independent' link referenced by the person you are discussing with but the poster did not see it because the lamestream media did not capture it as the bottom line. That's how propaganda works.

I usually dismiss any arguments based on western propaganda. I am surprised people still feel justified by quoting such.

Lol😂. Agenda must agend by force
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:29pm On Sep 30
DissTroy:
OkpaNsukkaIsBae, this was Russia being a 'yes boy' to NATO in 2014, planning a joint effort to destroy Syria's chemical weapons. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-russia-nato-plan-joint-operation-on-syrias-chemical-weapons-idUSBREA1D0Y3/

You would have unsuspecting people think Russia was the big bad wolf terrorizing NATO then and stopping it from kicking out Assad if it wanted to, but it was in reality a sidekick to NATO in the Syrian case.

Stop trying to rewrite history. Assad continuing on as President was more of NATO's benevolence and commonsense prevailing than Russia's ferociousness.

"3) Assad approached Russia for military support in September 2015 when the Syrian rebel groups & opposition forces controlled more than 70% of Syrian territory. Man was on the brink of defeat".

Please verify the year bro. Change they say is constant.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:33pm On Sep 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:




Please verify the year bro. Change they say is constant.

From the link in the post you just quoted:

"Russia has invested heavily in the international deal on Syria's chemical disarmament, which it sponsored from the outset, and does not want to see it fall apart in spite of Damascus falling behind the schedule."


Russia was onboard with disarming Syria from the beginning. Later they changed their minds and NATO was effectively stalled. Now revisionist nonsense is claiming they were playing fiddle and had no backbone.

I can quote other aspects of the article referenced. How can't people read through propaganda?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:47pm On Sep 30
Android17:


From the link in the post you just quoted:

"Russia has invested heavily in the international deal on Syria's chemical disarmament, which it sponsored from the outset, and does not want to see it fall apart in spite of Damascus falling behind the schedule."


Russia was onboard with disarming Syria from the beginning. Later they changed their minds and NATO was effectively stalled. Now revisionist nonsense is claiming they were playing fiddle and had no backbone.

I can quote other aspects of the article referenced. How can't people read through propaganda?

Thank you. That is what happens when they consume Western media propaganda channels. They will abandon logic just to paint Russia bad.

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