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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:22pm On Oct 02
Obrigardo:


Let's say I don't think you are a troll, or that you'll insult me back with this question. Let's try civility.
So, what is that "lack of education"? Care to point it out in a manner you don't resort to insult? I just want to know which education you mean that he lacks.

He's like Trump. And doing the exact thing Trump is doing to Kamala.

Kamala trashed Trump and so Trump and his insecure self is trying to use his megaphone to say she's dumb. And he's doing it like all good propagandists do, repeating it over and over. Going as far to say she was born dumb (sound familiar).
Unfortunately for him, people saw the debate themselves.

It's the same thing Captain Intellectual Dishonesty Raumdeuter is trying to do albeit without the megaphone.
I've trashed him repeatedly and his insecure self thinks if he calls me stupid over and over it'll somehow erase that.
Unfortunately for Captain Intellectual Dishonesty, as it is for Trump, people can read my posts here themselves.

I actually find it hilarious watching him act like an emotionally underdeveloped middle schooler.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:33pm On Oct 02
raumdeuter:


The lacks basic understanding that any educated person wont struggle with, which is why he lies about being an Ivy league grad. You can detect this easily from his posts. He has severe inferiority complex, Huge victim mentality, which are signs of people who have underachieved or failed in life

Understanding like this you mean?

Fam, understanding when people are smarter than you is a basic survival technique.
You seem to be struggling with that.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 3:38pm On Oct 02
IjeBos:


I expected Vance to do well in the debate. You don't get in Yale Law School if you're stupid. And part of the curriculum is stuff like moot court. Where they do simulated court arguments against someone else. Similar to a debate.
That being said, he made a mistake. He couldn't defend Trump's policies so he just lied about them.
Unfortunately, I believe that's what's going to lead in today's news cycle, esp. his refusal to admit Trump lost the election. Also his lie he never supported an abortion ban (he's on tape). So, for the people who didn't watch the debate that is what they will hear.
But, again, maybe that was tactical. As he knew he would have lost at the debate if he did try to defend the things Trump said/did.

Walz was ok. He wasn't as polished as Vance, but that was probably a plus to the midwest folk. He didn't push back on a lot of Vance's lies. Some of that was he's not a polished debater, but I think part of that also was that he didn't want to fight a battle via Vance's framing. Like he didn't push back when Vance lied that Kamala was the border czar. There would have been no winning that back and forth, esp. with no fact checking.

I have to admit, no matter what happens to Trump this election, he has reshaped politics. He effectively browbeat the media into not fact checking his lies. Other politicians (like Vance did) will take notice.

But seriously thou, if the Vance that showed up at the debate is the real Vance and every issue/policy he defended are the truth he stands for, he would have been a million times better than Trump. Except that when someone lies and changes so much, we just don't get to know his true identity again.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:48pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:


But seriously thou, if the Vance that showed up at the debate is the real Vance and every issue/policy he defended are the truth he stands for, he would have been a million times better than Trump. Except that when someone lies and changes so much, we just don't get to know his true identity again.

Exactly, but therein lies the rub. The policies he espoused are antithetical to the Republican Party. It's not what they believe.
But they are happy he did well in the debate on policies they don't stand for. Because they just want to win.

Imagine that he argued Trump saved ObamaCare.
Trump ran on gutting ObamaCare.
In fact when ObamaCare was being passed, they were arguing there would be death panels. It was insane.

Vance is whomever he needs to be in that moment. He has no convictions about anything, just wants power. He was calling Trump Hitler at one point.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:50pm On Oct 02
College student explains to Vance civics. Vice Presidents have no power unless delegated by the President.
Hey raumdeuter, even this college student is smarter than you. Lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zho5o7MWvc

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:52pm On Oct 02
IjeBos is here. The jobless one. When will you post Excel spreadsheet of time spent here?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by cococandy(f): 5:16pm On Oct 02
Vote now. Vote early. Vote absentee. Take your friends on Election Day. I’m mailing in my vote tomorrow. Pls don’t let captain orange and his slimeball shape-shifting minion into that White House again.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:19pm On Oct 02
cococandy:
Vote now. Vote early. Vote absentee. Take your friends on Election Day. I’m mailing in my vote tomorrow. Pls don’t let captain orange and his slimeball shape-shifting minion into that White House again.

Good luck, I am not able to vote sadly else I would have voted for Trump
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:
Interesting comments on the VP debate here.

Reading some posts here, I sometimes I ask if it is the same debate we all watched.

I honestly can't find a fault or misspeak with Waltz neither can I find any damage done to the ticket, he was his natural self all through, he did nothing of excess, even though I would have wanted him to be more on the offensive. But his sincerity, passion, being practical and real were enough.
.

Did you see this part? I guess you find no fault with Walz caught lying

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1841298326446076342?s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:29pm On Oct 02
IjeBos:


He's like Trump. And doing the exact thing Trump is doing to Kamala.

Kamala trashed Trump and so Trump and his insecure self is trying to use his megaphone to say she's dumb. And he's doing it like all good propagandists do, repeating it over and over. Going as far to say she was born dumb (sound familiar).
Unfortunately for him, people saw the debate themselves.

It's the same thing Captain Intellectual Dishonesty Ramdeuter is trying to do albeit without the megaphone.
I've trashed him repeatedly and his insecure self thinks if he calls me stupid over and over it'll somehow erase that.
Unfortunately for Captain Intellectual Dishonesty, as it is for Trump, people can read my posts here themselves.

I actually find it hilarious watching him act like an emotionally underdeveloped middle schooler.

Everyone who saw the debate admitted that Vance schooled Walz by a margin but dumb people like you will deny the obvious

We were here on the day of Trumps debate when you were giving excuses about Bidens performance how he was sick, had a cold, and other glitchy appearances which you blamed AI, deep fake until the democratic establishment who knew the truth all along yanked him off

If Biden had not been forced off, you will still be defending those lies about Biden

Only shows that mentally you are worse than a 3rd grader, educationally, you are the dumbest person here, In life you are the least accomplished

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:30pm On Oct 02
IjeBos:


Understanding like this you mean?

Fam, understanding when people are smarter than you is a basic survival technique.
You seem to be struggling with that.

People who are smart succeed in life, you are not successful actually yo are a failure
People who are smart, never see themselves as victims, you are a professional victim
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Maeve7: 5:31pm On Oct 02
cococandy:
Vote now. Vote early. Vote absentee. Take your friends on Election Day. I’m mailing in my vote tomorrow. Pls don’t let captain orange and his slimeball shape-shifting minion into that White House again.

slimeball shape-shifting minion grin

We have already mailed ours.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by COOL10(m): 5:32pm On Oct 02
grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Oct 02
IjeBos:
College student explains to Vance civics. Vice Presidents have no power unless delegated by the President.
Hey ramdeuter, even this college student is smarter than you. Lol.

https://www.yotube.com/watch?v=0Zho5o7MWvc

The pathetic attempt to distance Kamala from Biden. Let Kamala tell which of Bidens actions she disagreed with

If she cannot then she is tied to the Biden admin and should be held responsible for the success and failure of the admin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:35pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:
Interesting comments on the VP debate here.

Reading some posts here, I sometimes I ask if it is the same debate we all watched.

I honestly can't find a fault or misspeak with Waltz neither can I find any damage done to the ticket, he was his natural self all through, he did nothing of excess, even though I would have wanted him to be more on the offensive. But his sincerity, passion, being practical and real were enough.

On the other hand, J. D. Vance is an articulate smooth talker, no denial about it.... But on substance, just some b.s lies and exaggeration. I mean can you imagine claiming Trump saved Obama Care, I doubt even Trump will go that far to make such claim.... He dodge answers on Trump calling Climate change an hoax... he dodge and dodge till he overdid it and couldn't answer the question "Did Trump win in 2020?". To me it was at that point he lost it. Denying the reality of Jan 6th just didn't sell. It was the reality of that event that put him and not Pence on that stage. Not also forgetting that he lied about the National abortion ban which was one of the core of his Presidential primaries campaign.

But in all J. D. is just a chameleon that keep changing his color just to suit the occasion... At a time he was almost sounding like a Liberal Democrat just to attract some moderates and get some likeability. Not surprising though... He has been changing his views, opinions, orientation, policies like forever.

Trace your lineage man. Your reasoning and excuses is nearly identical to that of our resident idiot.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:35pm On Oct 02
raumdeuter:


Did you see this part? I guess you find no fault with Walz caught lying

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1841298326446076342?s=19

Don't mind obalgwe1, when Walz was saying he is friends with school shooters that's okay as well.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:37pm On Oct 02
COOL10:
grin grin

Tim did not sound dumb, if anything kamala should be under him
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:40pm On Oct 02
bemeruca:


Tim did not sound dumb, if anything kamala should be under him

I agree, Tim is actually better than Kamala he was just debating a better and more prepared opponent yesterday. I am sure he learned a few things from JD

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by cococandy(f): 5:56pm On Oct 02
bemeruca:


Good luck, I am not able to vote sadly else I would have voted for Trump

Well great thing you can’t kiss

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by cococandy(f): 5:57pm On Oct 02
Maeve7:


slimeball shape-shifting minion grin

We have already mailed ours.

Thanks for voting early smiley

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:14pm On Oct 02
cococandy:


Well great thing you can’t kiss

🍬🍭🍭🍭🍬🍭
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 6:21pm On Oct 02
raumdeuter:


Did you see this part? I guess you find no fault with Walz caught lying

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1841298326446076342?s=19

1st that misspeak was not at this debate. And anyone can honestly make that mistake about dates and time without meaning to lie. What would have been a lie to me was for him to say he was in Hong Kong without ever setting a foot in Hong Kong.

Recently I met a guy living in Wolverhampton UK, and I told him I was there at a particular year and even went to describe an experience I had at the place. It was some time after that I realized I was wrong about the year I gave him and the event I described was at Birmingham (a city close to Wolverhampton) but not Wolverhampton. I didn't mean to lie, I just mixed up events and dates cos it was a while.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:


1st that misspeak was not at this debate. And anyone can honestly make that mistake about dates and time without meaning to lie. What would have been a lie to me was for him to say he was in Hong Kong without ever setting a foot in Hong Kong.

Recently I met a guy living in Wolverhampton UK, and I told him I was there at a particular year and even went to describe an experience I had at the place. It was some time after that I realized I was wrong about the year I gave him and the event I described was at Birmingham (a city close to Wolverhampton) but not Wolverhampton. I didn't mean to lie, I just mixed up events and dates cos it was a while.

If there was a major event happening you will know. No one being honest will make that mistake. Will you mistake being to Dubai for being at Mecca for Hajj? Will you remember if you were at an Olympics, a world cup, A festival?

Its not about the date its about the event you claimed you were at. Its like claiming you were in Lagos during Endsars when you were actually in New York. It doesnt matter if you go to Lagos every year when there was no Endsars. Will you say you were at the 2018 Russian world cup when you were at the 2023 Russian war front?

Did you imagine the event?

And when the mod asked him why did he g ranting about growing up in Nebraska

Mod - Governor Walz you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tianemen sqaure protest in the Spring of 1989, the Minnesota radio said you didnt travel to Asia till August

Walz: I grew up in small rural Nebraska, town of 400 where you can ride your bike with your buddies till street light came on and I am proud of that service. My commitment whether it is to teaching which I was good at or being a good soldier or a member of congress

Obaigwe, Can you explain how this Walz response addressed the question? Note you said you didn't find an fault or misspeak with Walz

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 6:55pm On Oct 02
raumdeuter:


If there was a major event happening you will know. No one being honest will make that mistake. Will you mistake being to Dubai for being at Mecca for Hajj? Will you remember if you were at an Olympics, a world cup, A festival?

Its not about the date its about the event you claimed you were at. Its like claiming you were in Lagos during Endsars when you were actually in New York. It doesnt matter if you go to Lagos every year when there was no Endsars. Will you say you were at the 2018 Russian world cup when you were at the 2023 Russian war front?

Did you imagine the event?

And when the mod asked him why did he g ranting about growing up in Nebraska

Mod - Governor Walz you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tianemen sqaure protest in the Spring of 1989, the Minnesota radio said you didnt travel to Asia till August

Walz: I grew up in small rural Nebraska, town of 400 where you can ride your bike with your buddies till street light came on and I am proud of that service. My commitment whether it is to teaching which I was good at or being a good soldier or a member of congress

Obaigwe, Can you explain how this Walz response addressed the question? Note you said you didn't find an fault or misspeak with Walz

When he was pressed again by the Moderator, he said it was a misspeak... Well that is better than Vance denying what he stood for openly on national abortion, refused to respond to Trump calling Climate Change an hoax, claiming Trump saved Obamacare and blatantly refused to answer if Trump lost the 2020 election.

I can easily forgive or overlook someone exaggerating on an inconsequential event in Hong Kong than someone lying about core values / policies that will affect the whole country.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 7:09pm On Oct 02
BTW, how many people saw it as ridiculous; Vance claiming Trump's common sense opinion is better than experts' opinion? The same common sense that was uncommon when Trump mismanaged covid pandemic.

For a Yale graduate to think opinion based on rigorous researches and expert analysis is of less value compare to the common sense of a fraudster is mind blowing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Maeve7: 7:16pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:
BTW, how many people saw it as ridiculous; Vance claiming Trump's common sense opinion is better than experts' opinion? The same common sense that was uncommon when Trump mismanaged covid pandemic.

For a Yale graduate to think opinion based on rigorous researches and expert analysis is of less value compare to the common sense of a fraudster is mind blowing.

Vance acts like a psychopath. He doesn’t believe what he says and lies smirking. Call it smooth if you want. In times where knowledge is almost free but ignorance knows no bounds, performance is more important than substance and truthfulness.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:17pm On Oct 02
raumdeuter:


If there was a major event happening you will know. No one being honest will make that mistake. Will you mistake being to Dubai for being at Mecca for Hajj? Will you remember if you were at an Olympics, a world cup, A festival?

Its not about the date its about the event you claimed you were at. Its like claiming you were in Lagos during Endsars when you were actually in New York. It doesnt matter if you go to Lagos every year when there was no Endsars. Will you say you were at the 2018 Russian world cup when you were at the 2023 Russian war front?

Did you imagine the event?

And when the mod asked him why did he g ranting about growing up in Nebraska

Mod - Governor Walz you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tianemen sqaure protest in the Spring of 1989, the Minnesota radio said you didnt travel to Asia till August

Walz: I grew up in small rural Nebraska, town of 400 where you can ride your bike with your buddies till street light came on and I am proud of that service. My commitment whether it is to teaching which I was good at or being a good soldier or a member of congress

Obaigwe, Can you explain how this Walz response addressed the question? Note you said you didn't find an fault or misspeak with Walz

He knew he would be asked that question before the debate, either by Vance or moderatore. Note , Dana Bash excused him being "overprepared "..
Maybe he had crammed the answers sequentially.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 7:30pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:


When he was pressed again by the Moderator, he said it was a misspeak... Well that is better than Vance denying what he stood for openly on national abortion, refused to respond to Trump calling Climate Change an hoax, claiming Trump saved Obamacare and blatantly refused to answer if Trump lost the 2020 election.

I can easily forgive or overlook someone exaggerating on an inconsequential event in Hong Kong than someone lying about core values / policies that will affect the whole country.
Why did he need to be pressed by the moderator, In your opinion what do you think of his initial response?

Walz simply lied about being in HongKong during the Tianamen square riots

You can excuse one lie but cannot excuse one lie. Very fair of you

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 7:31pm On Oct 02
ObaIgwe1:
BTW, how many people saw it as ridiculous; Vance claiming Trump's common sense opinion is better than experts' opinion? The same common sense that was uncommon when Trump mismanaged covid pandemic.

For a Yale graduate to think opinion based on rigorous researches and expert analysis is of less value compare to the common sense of a fraudster is mind blowing.

Vance asked how have we fared since following experts who said its better for US economy to ship out manufacturing jobs
The same experts who predicted that US economy will tank should Trump get elected in 2016

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:32pm On Oct 02
raumdeuter:


Everyone who saw the debate admitted that Vance schooled Walz by a margin but dumb people like you will deny the obvious

We were here on the day of Trumps debate when you were giving excuses about Bidens performance how he was sick, had a cold, and other glitchy appearances which you blamed AI, deep fake until the democratic establishment who knew the truth all along yanked him off

If Biden had not been forced off, you will still be defending those lies about Biden

Only shows that mentally you are worse than a 3rd grader, educationally, you are the dumbest person here, In life you are the least accomplished

Does the shit you write make sense to you?
I get stupider reading the shit you write.

When did I hurt your third tier soul like this?
You keep punching above your weight. And keep getting beat down.
We aren't even on the same level.
Career, Money, Women, Cars, Education, whatever it is you want to establish as a baseline for success. I'll beat you hands down.

Sorry, you do have one thing here you are more successful than me in, you've spend close to 4 hours per day on here since you joined Nairaland. That's some dedication.

#NairaLandLifer #thirdtierliving

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 7:34pm On Oct 02
basilico:


He knew he would be asked that question before the debate, either by Vance or moderatore. Note , Dana Bash excused him being "overprepared "..
Maybe he had crammed the answers sequentially.

Then same way they told us that Biden debate performance was because he was over prepared, He had a cold, some even said Biden actually did well and won the June debate

Biden was strong as a tack

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On Oct 02
IjeBos:


Does the shit you write make sense to you?
I get stupider reading the shit you write.

When did I hurt your third tier soul?
You keep punching above your weight. And keep getting beat down.
We aren't even on the same level.
Career, Money, Women, Cars, Education, whatever it is you want to establish as a baseline for success. I'll beat you hands down.

Sorry, you do have one thing here you are more successful than me in, you've spend close to 4 hours per day on here since you joined Nairaland. That's some dedication.

#NairaLandLifer #thirdtierliving

You sound like a loser, that is why everyone here knows you are a loser. Your whole life is about excuses of why you failed, lifelong victim

Money cars education career. Very funny. You can try to act up on the web but your reality shows one thing. You are a loser in real life. I am certain of that

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