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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 1:52pm On Oct 03 |
ObaIgwe1: 2016, Hilary spent 760M on campaign Trump spent less than half of that. Yet she lost Maybe these ad will make groceries cheaper or reduce the cost of living. Haley voters for Harris you mean Democrats who tried to vote in GOP primaries? Haley herself is supporting Trump Haley supporters ignore your economic realities, ignore the failed policies of the last 4 yrs, ignore that you cant afford the same things you could last year and just vote against your economic interest because the "Haley for Harris" campaign will subsidize and make things cheaper for you |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 1:55pm On Oct 03 |
ObaIgwe1: Did Harris disagree with some of Bidens policies? If she did then she should say it. She didnt say she did, you are claiming she does not yet cannot point which Pence disagreed with Trumps handling of Jan 6 for example and he lost favor with Trump yet maintained his principles Where is Harris honor if she cant tell what she didnt agree with |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Xavier5(m): 2:05pm On Oct 03 |
raumdeuter: Being attacked by the left and the right for my "unpopular views" na normal thing sha. You should see me having to explain my Liberal values whenever I'm called "not being liberal enough" because I chose to appeal to the liberal value of reasoning which made me not to propagate those narratives of the "powers that be of the left" that are ridiculous and false. E funny die ๐๐๐ Make I no even talk about that of MAGAs whenever I oppose Trump, that one na another case ๐๐๐๐๐. Do you recall what I told you, that you will get a tag soon from the left. That is how things work.I supported Biden on this thread 4yrs ago because I thought the worst thing was Trumps insults until the economic realities of the last 3.5yrs hit Wonders ๐๐ฎ Me, after 2016 in which I supported Hillary (I'm still heartbroken she didn't win. When she gave her speech at the DNC, one of the things that came out of my mouth was, "This should have been the President." ), 2020 I was just looking at Trump and Biden like a zombie, same way I'm looking at Trump and Kamala ๐๐๐. #Xavier |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Xavier5(m): 2:07pm On Oct 03 |
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 2:08pm On Oct 03 |
Xavier5: If you noticed at least on this thread, how many right leaning people have attacked you or characterized you when you criticized them? No. But you acknowledging there is an inflation which everyone in Biden admin admits is you being MAGA. That is how stuff works |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Xavier5(m): 2:15pm On Oct 03 |
raumdeuter: Where's the lie in this... ๐ Well... that's American politics for you; an us vs them thing. Lots of people don't care about the truth or reality anymore, except being loyal to their respective left wing or right wing party. But all in all, as Dr Phil puts it; There are the left and the right, and there is fact. Liberalism, thanks to liberal values of truth, reasoning and open mindedness, demands one follows the path of facts, irrespective of whether it is favourable or not. #Xavier |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by ObaIgwe1: 2:25pm On Oct 03 |
raumdeuter: You supported Biden 4yrs ago? That is news to me. And what economy realities are you talking about? How come high inflation was global phenomenon immediately after covid? You should appreciate Bideneconomics, you would have been worse off. The inflation started with The Biden rescue plan which was an injection of government spending, at $1.9 trillion (or about 9 percent of overall U.S. economic activity, i.e. GDP) at that time. This boosted overall spending in the economy, which, in turn, counteracted the sharp rise in unemployment and spending cuts by both households and businesses that resulted from the COVID lockdown. Remember, Bidenโs American Rescue Plan focused on direct stimulus checks to households, providing funds for state and local governments to sustain their public health, education and public safety programs, the expansion of unemployment benefits, the protection of workersโ pension plans, and expanding the tax credit program for low-income families with children. The Biden rescue plan, did indeed prevent a 1930s-level economic collapse in 2021. Unemployment in the U.S. could well have risen to perhaps 15-20 percent in 2021. But this achievement by the Biden administration has gone mostly uncredited, given that it succeeded in preventing a calamity that did not happen, as opposed to advancing a positive economic breakthrough of some sort. But the good news is that inflation is coming down, economy is stronger, more jobs have been created and things are looking forward... Just so bad that Biden is made to take the fall for Covid measures which Trump badly mismanaged. Americans should be grateful for Bidens economic measures not crucify him... but of course the easy thing to do is to blame the current government for the inflation without looking at the cause. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 3:04pm On Oct 03 |
Basilico ono will say: Ray from Delaware 1y ago And the response to basilico is: NWCitizen 1y ago https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-number-of-informants-at-capitol-on-jan-6-ex-official/ |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 3:06pm On Oct 03 |
EnlightenedUFO: Those were feds who put up the gallows and led the chants. You are so deceived. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 3:09pm On Oct 03 |
ObaIgwe1: Keep clear of people like dump! |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 3:18pm On Oct 03 |
bemeruca: I provide you with evidence so you can believe. https://web.archive.org/web/20240918132507/https:/esspots.com/taylor-swift-loses-brand-deals-worth-125-million-after-the-big-endorsement/
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 3:58pm On Oct 03 |
ObaIgwe1: I think American civics is complex, esp. if you didn't have the opportunity to learn it as a student. And even Americans who did study it, often don't fully understand it let along people who never have and haven't attempted to. The VP is largely ceremonial. Her/His powers are derived from the portfolio the President gives her. Just like any regular person. The VP's biggest power which is surprising is that they are the President of the Senate and can cast tie breaking votes. This was one of the moments Waltz strategically didn't correct Vance. They want to give Harris as much Executive responsibility as possible. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:00pm On Oct 03 |
Xavier5: My fault. I tried my hardest not to involve you by not directly quoting your name. But it's not really a fault, more like me beating Raumdeuter down. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:02pm On Oct 03 |
raumdeuter: My man, 4 hours a day. You spend 4 hours a day on Nairaland. You should go and hide and never show your face again. Holy Sweet Jesus, 4 hours a day since 2014? Dude, noone is causing your failures but you. Not the immigrants, not other black people. Lol. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:04pm On Oct 03 |
IjeBos: Unfortunately you are the one always whining and playing the victim that is why I knew you are a failure, Only failures depict themselves as victims You have failed in every endeavor. Its not the white, Its not America, Its not Israel, not the people on this thread, not your friends who already have kids in colleges but you. You were born to fail. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:06pm On Oct 03 |
ObaIgwe1: Good ad. How any Christian can vote for this man is beyond me It makes me mad as a Christian. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 4:19pm On Oct 03 |
Govt delays release of Hunter Biden crimes until after elections DOJ won't release the investigations of fbi informants on Jan 6 until after elections. Meanwhile Jackboot accusations against Trump in a case that will obviously be thrown out is released before elections. See the pattern?
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:21pm On Oct 03 |
Xavier5: Can agree with a lot of this. This is how our debates were pre-Trump. Trump changed the game. Some things to point out 1.) Harris was that way in that debate because of Trump. She had to push back on his lies 1.) If she didn't she would have gotten pummelled by Trump and all his lies and name calling and 2.) to reveal his character that a lot of people on the right wouldn't have seen. If she didn't she would have gotten pummelled by Trump and all his lies and name calling. If Harris was debating anyone else, it wouldn't have been that way. Trump is the chaos agent and brings chaos in anything he touches. Look back at the Obama-McCain, Obama-Romney, Bush-Gore or Bush-Kerry debates. Then look at any debate involving Trump. They automatically devolve. 2.) The VP debate was that way because Waltz made a decision not to fact check Vance. And he didn't have to because Vance is not the Principle. His goal was to push Harris's policies and not get caught up in places or arguments that would hurt Harris. JD Vance doesn't matter, people don't go to vote for a VP. Plus he has been properly trashed already and has been since the debate. If this was a Presidential debate, it wouldn't have been the same. Waltz would have to go after Vance's many considerable lies. 3.) JD Vance was a wolf in sheep's clothing in that debate. Vance and Walz could agree on things, because Vance wasn't articulating Trump or Republican policies. Vance's primary job was to clean up the turd that was Trump's policies and he did that by largely lying about them. Two of the biggest Republican issues he basically backtracked and lied about. He said Trump fixed ObamaCare(lie). He said he didn't want a national Abortion ban (lie). 4.) Wall St Journal is a right wing/conservative paper. If you want a center/right source these days you might want to watch CNN, it's controlled by a Conservative now and it shows in the on air reporting. 5.) And don't worry I still think you're center right. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:32pm On Oct 03 |
Xavier5: A lot of the sentiment you hear and I hear is implicit sexism. I realized a lot of Nigerian men do not want Harris to win because it will affect theit world view and their belief that they are dominant over woman. Cna't relaly tell your wife you're a woman and I'm a man so I have more power, when the most powerful person in the world is a woman. And everyone has that implicit bias, I realized even I do. I call Harris by her first name Kamala and Trump and Biden by their last. Why? Read a good article that it's sexism and it happens to a lot of female doctors. So, I've been making an effort to call her Harris. Xavier5: Trump really is. A lot of what Presidents' have been restrained by in the past has not been laws but norms. Trump blew up a lot of those norms. And some people quit or didn't do what he wanted because they were afraid of going go to jail. The Supreme Court blew that up with the immunity ruling. Now, as long as the President couches his actions through some Presidential action, he's ok. Lock someone up, President controls the DOJ, ok. We are on the precipice. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 4:34pm On Oct 03 |
I'm posting this for the attention of Xavier5 who sees no threat to democracy. Personally, I don't think people waste $15m on nothing. Why has Thiel been such a strong sponsor of Vance? Because Thiel sees in his protege a future leader of a political movement to turn the US away from democracy. โFor Peter,โ said one of the people familiar with his thinking, โVance is a generational bet.โ |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:35pm On Oct 03 |
AmazonTopaz: My niece doesn't want her to win because of this. She's scared if anything happens they will blame women and black women for it. I was somewhat surprised at that comment. Never thought of it. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:41pm On Oct 03 |
raumdeuter: The problem is your logic is always flawed. You ascribe blame to Biden and Kamala for inflationionary policies and thus if Trump is elected Inflation will decrease. Yet you cannot name one policy Trump will enact that will ease inflation or one policy Trump enacted that made the economy great (while he was President) outside of getting ti from Obama. And yet cannot also explain why the whole WORLD post Covid had inflation (where the US fared the best), including Nigeria which now has crippling inflation. Everything you post is faux intellectual puff that tries to disguise that you have 0 idea what you're talking about. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:42pm On Oct 03 |
Xavier5: You are not liberal. You sound like a pre-Trump Republican in the mold of George Bush. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 4:48pm On Oct 03 |
Xavier5: It is not Trump or Kamala that are looking to weaken the democratic and governmental institutions. One can't argue however that there aren't some (Thiel, Hamas, Putin, Rocket Man, China, etc), who will profit from such weakening, and are prepared to work towards weakening it by using the unaware trumps and kamalas. The democratic and governmental institution will become weak when people become complacent. Thankfully, the constant resilience and strength I see encourages me. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:56pm On Oct 03 |
ObaIgwe1: This is a good post, but too complex for a lot of people on here. And too complex for Biden or Harris to make a case for in a debate. And that's the problem, some people have to experience the bad before they understand it, yet a good leaders goal is to prepare and prevent it. And that is the reason they've tried to steer away from talking about it. They have a good case, but it's a too complex case to fit in a sound bite. And Republicans are always intellectual dishonest in these type of discussions. How many people are giving Obama the credit for the Economy Trump inherited and how he managed the Economy and the bailouts he had to do enact to keep the World Economy from crashing. The thing that pissed me off the most, was that Trump ran on Obama's terrible economy. The minute he got into office he said the Economy was great. Why? Because he said, of course now he's President. History books will judge Biden well for this. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:57pm On Oct 03 |
IjeBos: You've spent 4 hours a day here since 2014. I think that says enough about you.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 5:01pm On Oct 03 |
Implicit Bias I'm guilty of as well. Thougts? Call the vice president by her (last) name |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 5:04pm On Oct 03 |
IjeBos: You have failed all your life in every endeavor that says enough about you |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 5:17pm On Oct 03 |
raumdeuter: Here's your chance. Tell me the endeavors I've failed in. List them out. Be exact. But you can't. But you write this like it's you life's mantra. Do you understand how unwell that makes you. How broken of a person. You've spent 4 hours a day since 2014 writing nonsense like this. What happened to you Trump nutters that makes you act like lunatics? You lost, I've beat you in every argument here, be a grown up and get over it. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 5:22pm On Oct 03 |
IjeBos: Extreme foolishness and the victimhood has done irreparable damage to you thats why you are always a victim and can never be succesful A name is to serve as a unique identifier as much as possible, So people address you by a name that is distinct and will cause less confusion. If you say Harris, there are many Harris that can be confused for each other but if you say Kamala there are fewer Kamala than Harris. Kamala will serve more as a unique identifier for Kamala Harris than say Harris When you say Clinton, There was a popular Clinton that people already know which is Bill, to distinguish, you have to say Hillary which zeroes in on the person you are speaking about same thing with Michelle Obama The same logic when people are describing Bush. If you say Bush, there are likely different people that can be confused for it, That is why people use the differentiators like HW, W or Jeb. Actually When Jeb Bush ran his campaign he was called Jeb all through and he was not a woman Even in Basketball, While some male ballers are more popular by their first name, some are more popular with their last name. People address Lebron Shaquille Kobe with their first names and Jordan, Durant, Westbrook by their last names or in your view its implicit bias that's making people address men differently? Now lets test your theory and tell me if you call these famous women by their first name or last name Nancy Pelosi, Sonia Sotomayor, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Margaret Thatcher Most people will call the above women by their last name Pelosi, Sotomayor, Thatcher, Stefanik, Okonjo-Iweala and not their first name because that name is distinct enough and causes less confusion to the average listener Or do you refer to Nancy Pelosi as Nancy, Sonia Sotomayor as Sonia, Margaret Thatcher as Margaret, Elise Stefanik as Elise? or Okonjo-Iweala as Ngozi? |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 5:29pm On Oct 03 |
IjeBos: The only thing you are better at is victimhood, Perpetual victim |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 5:31pm On Oct 03 |
IjeBos: Spend more time doing something productive and not be gay because you are an incel. Try a relationship with a woman. |
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