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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Oct 04
Xavier5:


Or maybe that's just a person agreeing with common sense.

And by the way, base on the liberal values, you've not explain how Xavier isn't a liberal... ๐Ÿ˜ถ


#Xavier

The idiot Ijebos is the custodian of liberalism and he knows who is and who isn't
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 3:41pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


Lol.
See shift.
Captain Intellectual Dishonesty doing his thing. Lol.


Perpetual victim

What is the victim theory for the day?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:18pm On Oct 04
Xavier5:


As usual, he didn't ask which liberal value made me pro-life, but rather jumped to branding. You are so easy to lay trap for ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

As for your question, I'm not anti-choice, but rather I'm hugely pro human rights and value, a fundamental liberal value.

I'm heavily pro-liberty, but when such liberty stands in the way of a human life to live, I oppose. I will always be in support of women's rights over their body, as far as an innocent, powerless, and voiceless life is not been threatened.

This is the reason why I made it clear that, we should create systems that ensured women shouldn't be mothers if they don't want to, and that deals with the menance of unwanted pregnancies, while also ensuring that the life of the babies are preserved. Liberal values of human rights and value, equality, truth, altruism, morality, reasoning and open mindedness demands such.

Human rights that do not involve unborn babies is not human rights.

PS: I'm pro-life, except in critical cases.

We can have that discussion, or you can choose to brand. Your choice.

#Xavier

Lay a trap? The discussion here is whether you are liberal, not your views on Abortion.
Listen you're not liberal.
And it sounds either
1.) You are not sure of your political ideology and somewhat confused, as you seem to be all over the map with your logic. You're pro-liberty except when it comes to bodily autonomy or the liberty a person has with their own body? What does that even mean?
2.) You're trying to troll, pretending to be a liberal while pushing conservative ideas so make yourself and those ideas some more reasonable. Sort of the same thing JD Vance did in that debate.

Either way, as I said, you're not a liberal. If you aren't trolling, you should evaluate why you feel the necessity to take the "liberal" moniker. It's not by force.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 4:31pm On Oct 04
In NYC illegal immigrants have occupied dozens of quite good hotels , they are also getting free cash while some have new mobile phones.

Kamala Harris FEMA spent close to $ 1 billion on illegal aliens , now it does not have enough money to aid the hurricane hit areas that reports over 200 dead, over 1000 missing and are cut off from cell phone coverage and internet.

Starlink is aiding the people there. Trump has also visited and held fundraisers for the victims. Not forgetting Kamala admin refused to grant the contract to Starlink to provide high speed internet to over six hundred thousand homes in rural areas.

Kamala has provided this week billions of dollars to Ukraine.

Icing on the cake.

Vice President Kamala Harris is currently facing criticism after announcing that $750 would be provided to Hurricane Helene victims through federal aid.

During a visit to Augusta, Georgiaโ€”one of the hardest-hit areasโ€”Harris revealed the financial relief, which will be distributed via FEMA. The aid is intended for immediate food needs, with further support available for long-term damage and other losses. The announcement followed the Biden administration's declaration of Georgia as a disaster zone on October 1.

Anyone with some grey matter in his head, how you support such an administration is beyond reason.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Xavier5(m): 4:36pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


Lay a trap? The discussion here is whether you are liberal, not your views on Abortion.
Listen you're not liberal.
And it sounds either
1.) You are not sure of your political ideology and somewhat confused, as you seem to be all over the map with your logic. You're pro-liberty except when it comes to bodily autonomy or the liberty a person has with their own body? What does that even mean?
2.) You're trying to troll, pretending to be a liberal while pushing conservative ideas so make yourself and those ideas some more reasonable. Sort of the same thing JD Vance did in that debate.

Either way, as I said, you're not a liberal. If you aren't trolling, you should evaluate why you feel the necessity to take the "liberal" moniker. It's not by force.

He can't explain how, base on liberal values, Xavier is not a liberal, but rather choose to believe such simply because it makes him feel good grin grin grin grin grin

Also, he's not interested in the topic of abortion, and which liberal value made Xavier pro-life, but rather, is more interested in branding Xavier "not a liberal". This is funny as hell ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

Well, if that makes you be at peace, then good. You have my blessings ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š


To my fellow liberals that might be curious on why I chose such stand on the issue of abortion. I'm open to discussion. Liberal to liberal, let's engage, as we appeal to our liberal values on the issue ๐Ÿ˜Ž

And one more thing to all who care to know, I personally think pro-life and pro-choice are not conservative and liberal ideologies, I feel we are just the one making them so for political reasons. In my interactions with people, I've come across pro-choice conservatives and pro-life liberals, the latter I happen to be a part of... proudly ๐Ÿ˜Ž

But as I earlier said, if any liberal here wants to engage me on the topic, I'm open to that discussion, after all, reasoning is a liberal value ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ™ƒ




#Xavier
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:44pm On Oct 04
Xavier5:



To my fellow liberals that might be curious on why I chose such stand on the issue of abortion. I'm open to discussion. Liberal to liberal, let's engage, as we appeal to our liberal values on the issue ๐Ÿ˜Ž

And one more thing to all who care to know, I personally think pro-life and pro-choice are not conservative and liberal ideologies, I feel we are just the one making them so for political reasons. In my interactions with people, I've come across pro-choice conservatives and pro-life liberals, the latter I happen to be a part of... proudly ๐Ÿ˜Ž

But as I earlier said, if any liberal here wants to engage me on the topic, I'm open to that discussion, after all, reasoning is a liberal value ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ™ƒ

#Xavier

So it is the latter? As I thought.
You are obviously aware you are not a liberal but it serves your purposes to pretend you are to engage other liberals on abortion and other matters.
It would be a good technique if it weren't so obvious.
Question, where did you learn this? Was it self taught or was it in some church you belong?
And don't you think it's deceptive?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Xavier5(m): 4:46pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


So it is the latter? As I thought.
You are obviously aware you are not a liberal but it serves your purposes to pretend you are to engage other liberals on abortion and other matters.
It would be a good technique if it weren't so obvious.
Question, where did you learn this? Was it self taught or was it in some church you belong?
And don't you think it's deceptive?

Okay sir ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚



#Xavier

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 4:54pm On Oct 04
budaatum:




Basilico should try this as his argument if he ever got brought before a judge for his lies and baseless conspiracies. Be warned though, it failed.

You do know what happens when someone starts investigating you. They subpoena your electronics, search your house , drag you before a grand jury for days on end accompanied by your lawyer etc They basically drain you and a jury full of your type finds you guilty.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 4:56pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


So it is the latter? As I thought.
You are obviously aware you are not a liberal but it serves your purposes to pretend you are to engage other liberals on abortion and other matters.
It would be a good technique if it weren't so obvious.
Question, where did you learn this? Was it self taught or was it in some church you belong?
And don't you think it's deceptive?

Another first. Now you have a meter to measure whether one is a liberal or not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:58pm On Oct 04
Xavier5:


Okay sir ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
#Xavier

I called you out a while ago on it.
It's obvious. I initially just thought you were confused.

But, it's deceptive, no?
It's like these white people on twitter pretending to be black. What the difference?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 5:07pm On Oct 04
Chai! basilico loco and his dumb maga cult crew are having a bad day.

Whenever there's good news in the US of A, just know that the rapist felon trump and his braindead zombies are having an extremely bad day.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 5:21pm On Oct 04
Marc Cuban is doing a good job here.
I still can't believe Dems have hammered this home. Actually I can believe it.
It's somewhat complicated, but could have been done.

Trump was responsible for the increase of the price of Gas. He made an agreement to cut production to increase oil prices.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Xavier5(m): 5:41pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


I called you out a while ago on it.
It's obvious. I initially just thought you were confused.

But, it's deceptive, no?
It's like these white people on twitter pretending to be black. What the difference?

Okay your Lordship ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿ™‡



#Xavier

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 5:49pm On Oct 04
basilico:


You do know what happens when someone starts investigating you. They subpoena your electronics, search your house , drag you before a grand jury for days on end accompanied by your lawyer etc They basically drain you and a jury full of your type finds you guilty.

That's what happend to Gerald and Wendy Wood. Except they weren't guilty because there was no evidence suggesting they were guilty. And they might sue the culprit Peters who stole and used their identity, and recoup some of what they lost.

The state called Gerald and Wendy Wood as witnesses against Peters. Peters was convicted of using Gerald Wood's ID badge to give access to Mike Lindell's associate to election files. When the story first broke, many people in the community thought he was involved since Peters stole his identity. His wife Wendy was upset that Peters continues to lie about his involvement and has never apologized or shown any remorse.

Gerald spoke about his reputation being ruined and his house repeatedly being searched by law enforcement with all his electronic items seized for years. He noted that anyone who Googles his name will think he was a notorious criminal even though he was only a victim. He also talked about how much money Peters has raised and continues to take in from GiveSendGo and book deals off the case, while she continues to appear on right-wing podcasts to make solicitations.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 6:23pm On Oct 04
Obrigardo:
Chai! basilico loco and his dumb maga cult crew are having a bad day.

Whenever there's good news in the US of A, just know that the rapist felon trump and his braindead zombies are having an extremely bad day.


You also forgot this. Texas Stock Exchange set to be launched.

The Texas Stock Exchange is taking shape. The TXSE, which aims to be a fully electronic national securities exchange to rival the New York Stock Exchange, revealed its executive leadership team and their notable credentials on Monday, September 30.

Good job Joe Biden?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 6:26pm On Oct 04
budaatum:


That's what happend to Gerald and Wendy Wood. Except they weren't guilty because there was no evidence suggesting they were guilty. And they might sue the culprit Peters who stole and used their identity, and recoup some of what they lost.


The little I know about the case is that she was ordered to delete electoral machine data by the Secretary of State, she took a backup first with the help of others and gave it to some fraud hunters. She was a whistleblower, but the 2020 election was the most secure ever that everybody who questions it gets jailed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 6:28pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:
Marc Cuban is doing a good job here.
I still can't believe Dems have hammered this home. Actually I can believe it.
It's somewhat complicated, but could have been done.

Trump was responsible for the increase of the price of Gas. He made an agreement to cut production to increase oil prices.



What was the gas price the day he left office and today and also at it's height within Kamala Harris tenure?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 6:32pm On Oct 04
basilico:


The little I know about the case is that she was ordered to delete electoral machine data by the Secretary, she took a backup first with the help of others and gave it to some fraud hunters. She was a whistleblower, but the 2020 election was the most secure ever that everybody who questions it gets jailed.

The little you know is she is a whistleblower?

Dude, please go and educate yourself with the facts instead of drinking the dump aid!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 6:36pm On Oct 04
basilico:


You also forgot this. Texas Stock Exchange set to be launched.

The Texas Stock Exchange is taking shape. The TXSE, which aims to be a fully electronic national securities exchange to rival the New York Stock Exchange, revealed its executive leadership team and their notable credentials on Monday, September 30.

Good job Joe Biden?

Yes, very good job Biden for enabling an environment for competition to thrive, which improves efficiency, and for more jobs to be created in Texas.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 6:51pm On Oct 04
Trump shooter trial. DOJ requests indefinite adjournment of trial after new evidence uncovered.
Guy had 6 phones
Translation. He was/IS not meant to live

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 6:55pm On Oct 04
raumdeuter:


If the will of the people is at disonance with my personal belief then I live with it or leave the place.

Except that most anti-abortionists don't reason that way because they want to impose their choice on my body.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Minnesota

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:09pm On Oct 04
budaatum:


Except that most anti-abortionists don't reason that way because they want to impose their choice on my body.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Minnesota

But even if you think you are a woman you can't get pregnant
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 7:13pm On Oct 04
basilico:


What was the gas price the day he left office and today and also at it's height within Kamala Harris tenure?

Sorry, my mind doesn't work the way yours does. It actually processes information.
Oil prices were low due to the pandemic. A lot of demand a glut of supply.
Trump garnered an agreement between OPEC and US oil companies to cut production.
His argument was gas prices were too low.
That production increase increased the price of oil and led to some of the global inflation we see now.
Trump even bragged about it.

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/
Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/business/energy-environment/opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html
Energy
OPEC and alliesโ€™ oil production cut is Trumpโ€™s โ€˜biggest and most complexโ€™ deal ever: Dan Yergin
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/opec-cut-is-trumps-biggest-and-most-complex-deal-ever-dan-yergin.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Si9VR0Lj4
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by budaatum: 7:14pm On Oct 04
bemeruca:


But even if you think you are a woman you can't get pregnant

You have a brain. Learn to use it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 7:33pm On Oct 04
basilico:


You also forgot this. Texas Stock Exchange set to be launched.

The Texas Stock Exchange is taking shape. The TXSE, which aims to be a fully electronic national securities exchange to rival the New York Stock Exchange, revealed its executive leadership team and their notable credentials on Monday, September 30.

Good job Joe Biden?

I don't know if I should laugh or cry to this

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:13pm On Oct 04
Ono , raumdeuter.
Some time ago I put down a list of deep state operatives engineering Trump downfall through lawfare. I mentioned Mary McCord as being the worst of the worst.
My reasons

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/04/the-mary-mccord-discussion-enhances-so-many-questions-about-doj-targeting-of-president-trump/

Well researched article.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 8:15pm On Oct 04
Obrigardo:


I don't know if I should laugh or cry to this

I didn't even understand it.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 8:16pm On Oct 04

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:52pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


Sorry, my mind doesn't work the way yours does. It actually processes information.
Oil prices were low due to the pandemic. A lot of demand a glut of supply.
Trump garnered an agreement between OPEC and US oil companies to cut production.
His argument was gas prices were too low.
That production increase increased the price of oil and led to some of the global inflation we see now.
Trump even bragged about it.

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/
Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/business/energy-environment/opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html
Energy
OPEC and alliesโ€™ oil production cut is Trumpโ€™s โ€˜biggest and most complexโ€™ deal ever: Dan Yergin
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/opec-cut-is-trumps-biggest-and-most-complex-deal-ever-dan-yergin.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Si9VR0Lj4

CYA. Cover Your Ass.
What actions did Joe Biden take on Day 1 regarding oil. He cancelled Keystone XL pipeline and poof 35000 jobs went up in air. He went ahead to sign other Executive Orders that curtailed prospecting of oil
I presume Trump bye bye letter to Joe Biden was to take steps to limit domestic oil production.
Bloody fool .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:54pm On Oct 04
Obrigardo:


I don't know if I should laugh or cry to this

I don't know whether you think it's a positive or negative move.
Texas Exchange is backed principally by Vanguard and Black rock. Democrat globalist donors.
I'm highlighting progress under Joe Biden, I'm not all gloom and doom. I give credit where it's due.
Meanwhile 100% of American purchasing power is the highest since the days of El Dorado?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 9:09pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:


I didn't even understand it.

The chap has been going off the edge lately and getting extreme In his maga conspiracy beliefs.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 9:14pm On Oct 04
IjeBos:
Republicans have just moved on to naked corruption.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/donald-trump-supported-bible-one-of-few-that-meets-ryan-walters-criteria-for-ok-classrooms/75510021007/


The rapist felon trump, I'm not going to lie was putin's successful operation against the US.

The kremlin got their goal - use the criminal to shake our Democratic foundations and justice system, and attempt to crack it.

Fact is that they have failed everytime. And from my vantage point while looking at things in the fullness of time, It seems the path was just made for Kamala Harris to take it.

I knew she'll be president when she was sworn in as California junior senator. It was clear as day to me as soon as I saw het in the papers on her swearing in.



But I know we are going to reject him on Nov 5th. 100%

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