bemeruca:


people who want to put gay practice in the church are angry that trump endorsed bible is being sold.

look for better things to cry about. there is nothing wrong with this.

This is why Nigeria is corrupt and with mentalities like this will never succeed.

Ha set aside 3 million for 55,000 Bibles.
1.) It's a Public School, so why are Bibles needed in every classroom? What about the Quran or Torah?
2.) Leaving aside #1. The bibles would cost ~$55 per bible. Bibles can be had for ~$5 and probably less if bought in bulk. If you wanted leather, not sure why, but they can be bought around ~$25. What is the value in the $55 Bible vs. the $5.
3.) Oklahoma is ranked 49 out of 50 in Education. I'm sure that 3 million would have more beneficial uses.

It's surprising that anyone who live in a country inundated with corruption like Nigeria, is comfortable with this stuff. I guess it's true that we deserve the leaders we get.

IjeBos:


This is why Nigeria is corrupt and with mentalities like this will never succeed.

Ha set aside 3 million for 55,000 Bibles.
1.) It's a Public School, so why are Bibles needed in every classroom? What about the Quran or Torah?
2.) Leaving aside #1. The bibles would cost ~$55 per bible. Bibles can be had for ~$5 and probably less if bought in bulk. If you wanted leather, not sure why, but they can be bought around ~$25. What is the value in the $55 Bible vs. the $5.
3.) Oklahoma is ranked 49 out of 50 in Education. I'm sure that 3 million would have more beneficial uses.

It's surprising that anyone who live in a country inundated with corruption like Nigeria, is comfortable with this stuff. I guess it's true that we deserve the leaders we get.

I will never respond to that guy, he is too stupid for me to engage with.

Xavier5:


Base on the fact that you're a stranger to me, and I have a very close relationship with my mother, against my wish of not wanting to choose anyone, I will choose my mother. She's functionally valuable to me than you in this context. But of course, if an opportunity arises for escape or situational neutralization, then definitely, I'm going that route with us all.

But functional human value isn't what I'm talking about here, but rather intrinsic human value. Functional human value is based on the contribution of a person to the society or to the life of an individual.

Intrinsic human value is the belief that human life inherently posseses value irrespective of race, gender, intelligence, viability, socio-economic status, and stage of development, because it is a human life.

I think it's very vital we take note of the difference between functional human value and intrinsic human value. I think you're conflicting the two.

So what connection does the question have with the discussion at hand?



#Xavier

Ok good. Thanks for clarifying.

I don't think anything has intrinsic value. All value is subjective which is the reason value cannot be the bedrock for equity. The principle of equity is baseline enough by itself because we are all humans with the same basic needs.

I will tie all this into my response to your previous post, no need for you to respond to this post. Thanks.

IjeBos:


This is why Nigeria is corrupt and with mentalities like this will never succeed.

Ha set aside 3 million for 55,000 Bibles.
1.) It's a Public School, so why are Bibles needed in every classroom? What about the Quran or Torah?
2.) Leaving aside #1. The bibles would cost ~$55 per bible. Bibles can be had for ~$5 and probably less if bought in bulk. If you wanted leather, not sure why, but they can be bought around ~$25. What is the value in the $55 Bible vs. the $5.
3.) Oklahoma is ranked 49 out of 50 in Education. I'm sure that 3 million would have more beneficial uses.

It's surprising that anyone who live in a country inundated with corruption like Nigeria, is comfortable with this stuff. I guess it's true that we deserve the leaders we get.

When you have Bibles in the schools in Qatar, we can talk about the Quran in the United States.

You are talking about cost now; the money Harris wants to send to Hezbollah can be used to buy those Bibles. $60 is a bargain given that it's a trump branded Bible.

With the college students these days and a gay president plagiarizing at will, Oklahoma cant be ranked 49-50

Konkoja:


I will never respond to that guy, he is too stupid for me to engage with.

Don't respond to me. You are too stupid to respond to me. Just don't post shit here else I will respond to it. that's all. 😂

Kamala:

"The work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region."

More salad for konkoja and ijebos

Only idiots in the West will support terrorists

bemeruca:


When you have Bibles in the schools in Qatar, we can talk about the Quran in the United States.

You are talking about cost now; the money Harris wants to send to Hezbollah can be used to buy those Bibles. $60 is a bargain given that it's a trump branded Bible.

With the college students these days and a gay president plagiarizing at will, Oklahoma cant be ranked 49-50

I wanted to explain the differences between secular, non secular and atheist countries as it relates to the point you raised.. but for you, it will be a waste of time.

ObaIgwe1:


I wanted to explain the differences between secular, non secular and atheist countries as it relates to the point you raised.. but for you, it will be a waste of time.

You want to explain? Pls don't waste my time

IjeBos:

I think bad things can happen if too many people believe untrue nutty things. i.e. Government aid workers are there to take your land.

You think? Like bad things are happening to people like Guilani and Sidney Powell and Mr Infowars and the pussy grabber who believe dump won the last election or who drink bleach for covid? Really?

Dude, bad things are happening to magas on Truth Social already, and I am glad it is!

IjeBos:
Some people are threatening Hurricane aid workers because of all the mis/disinformation Trump/Musk and co. are spreading.
BIden should really do more forceful pushback on it. But of course, he won't.

Biden can't and shouldn't waste his time attacking people's 1st Amendment. If fuqers break the law, the law will break them eventually.

Xavier5:


#Xavier

Personally? I think you protest too much in far too many words.

bemeruca:
people who want to put gay practice in the church are angry that trump endorsed bible is being sold.

Gas! No one is angry that dump endorsed bible is being sold. We in fact encourage dump to sell you like ten if you so wish to own so many, and buy a dump watch too.

What is concerning is that a state is buying them with tax money!

LordReed:
I don't think anything has intrinsic value. All value is subjective ...

Xavier5, you see the above from my Lord up there?

It's what you've said too below.

Xavier5:

Intrinsic human value is the belief...

"Belief" is subjective, and that's the reason all we subjects don't all believe the same things.

ObaIgwe1:


I wanted to explain the differences between secular, non secular and atheist countries as it relates to the point you raised.. but for you, it will be a waste of time.

I was about to explain the difference too, but also decided not to waste my time.

budaatum:


Gas! No one is angry that dump endorsed bible is being sold. We in fact encourage dump to sell you like ten if you so wish to own so many, and buy a dump watch too.

What is concerning is that a state is buying them with tax money!

This guy is

IjeBos:


This is why Nigeria is corrupt and with mentalities like this will never succeed.

Ha set aside 3 million for 55,000 Bibles.
1.) It's a Public School, so why are Bibles needed in every classroom? What about the Quran or Torah?
2.) Leaving aside #1. The bibles would cost ~$55 per bible. Bibles can be had for ~$5 and probably less if bought in bulk. If you wanted leather, not sure why, but they can be bought around ~$25. What is the value in the $55 Bible vs. the $5.
3.) Oklahoma is ranked 49 out of 50 in Education. I'm sure that 3 million would have more beneficial uses.

It's surprising that anyone who live in a country inundated with corruption like Nigeria, is comfortable with this stuff. I guess it's true that we deserve the leaders we get.

And this guy

Konkoja:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-bible-oklahom-ryan-walters-b2624140.html

Trump has succeeded in corrupting most sectors in America. 55 thousand Bibles to be ordered with specifications that mirror Trump Bibles.

Absolutely corrupt charlatans and they profess to be Christians.

Who is now turning America into a third world country?

bemeruca:
This guy is

And this guy

I repeat. Gas!

Both people you mentioned are objecting for the same reason I am, which is the inappropriate spending of tax money on dump's bibles, as opposed to him selling bibles as you claim

And I bet you'd object too if a state were buying Kamala bibles with tax money, though I don't expect you to be honest and admit to that.

budaatum:


I repeat. Gas!

Both people you mentioned are objecting for the same reason I am, which is the inappropriate spending of tax money on dump's bibles, as opposed to him selling bibles as you claim

And I bet you'd object too if a state were buying Kamala bibles with tax money, though I don't expect you to be honest and admit to that.

They are only objecting because Donald Trump is there. These same people make excuses for things they should be mad for all the time including you.

bemeruca:
They are only objecting because Donald Trump is there. These same people make excuses for things they should be mad for all the time including you.

You know very well that atheist me would object to a state using tax money to buy any bibles, moreso inflated priced dump bibles! And that's apart from the fact that the first amendment forbids it.

LordReed:


Ok good. Thanks for clarifying.

I don't think anything has intrinsic value

Alright, but tell that to the universal intrinsic knowing of the intrinsic value of human life. As I earlier said, people may choose to deny it for personal or ideological reasons, but reality will always be reality. And this is the reality, everybody knows deep down that human life has intrinsic value. And the beautiful thing is, reality always present situations where humans will have no choice but to acknowledge. We can choose to deny it, but reality always has a way of giving us the middle finger.

In addition, your non acknowledgement of the intrinsic human value is the reason why we don't share the same definition of liberalism. And as I said, if that's the dominant definition of liberalism here, then I can't associate with such. I prefer to be an independent in this thread.

All value is subjective which is the reason value cannot be the bedrock for equity.

All value is subjective in what context? In the context of personal opinion? Or in the context that some values are inherently true and right?

The principle of equity is baseline enough by itself because we are all humans with the same basic needs.

If there's no intrinsic human value, why does it matter if we are all humans? What's so unique in being human? What's the difference between humans and animals? Why do we hurt animals all in the name of surviving? And why does me hurting another fellow human to survive or achieve my personal desires wrong?



#Xavier

budaatum:

Xavier5, you see the above from my Lord up there?

It's what you've said too below.



"Belief" is subjective, and that's the reason all we subjects don't all believe the same things.

Belief is subjective in the context of personal opinion? Or in the context that certain values or beliefs are inherent true and right? Which one.

Secondly, we can't all believe the same things, that's true. But the argument is not if we must or should belief the same thing, but if some beliefs are inherently true or right.


#Xavier

Xavier5:


Alright, but tell that to the universal intrinsic knowing of the intrinsic value of human life. As I earlier said, people may choose to deny it for personal or ideological reasons, but reality will always be reality. And this is the reality, everybody knows deep down that human life has intrinsic value. And the beautiful thing is, reality always present situations where humans will have no choice but to acknowledge. We can choose to deny it, but reality always has a way of giving us the middle finger.

In addition, your non acknowledgement of the intrinsic human value is the reason why we don't share the same definition of liberalism. And as I said, if that's the dominant definition of liberalism here, then I can't associate with such. I prefer to be an independent in this thread.



All value is subjective in what context? In the context of personal opinion? Or in the context that some values are inherently true and right?



If there's no intrinsic human value, why does it matter if we are all humans? What's so unique in being human? What's the difference between humans and animals? Why do we hurt animals all in the name of surviving? And why does me hurting another fellow human to survive or achieve my personal desires wrong?



#Xavier

But I said you shouldn't respond as you'll have the opportunity to do so when I respond to your other post.

budaatum:

Xavier5, you see the above from my Lord up there?

It's what you've said too below.



"Belief" is subjective, and that's the reason all we subjects don't all believe the same things.

BTW are you the one who said Xavier5 isn't a liberal? Do you know who said so?

LordReed:


But I said you shouldn't respond as you'll have the opportunity to do so when I respond to your other post.

Okay 😊. Will be waiting 😎


#Xavier

Yesterday, I had an interaction with a lady regarding the upcoming election, and in the course of the interaction, she said Xavier if you aren't appealed to Trump and Kamala, but you nevertheless prefer their running mates, Vance and Walz, rather than stay neutral during the election, why don't you support these candidates because of their running mates?

Her statement caused moments of reflection in me which made me come in agreement with her. Yes, I'm not a fan of Trump and Kamala for certain reasons, but their running mates appeal to me for numbers of reasons such as competence, intelligence, character (not perfect), patriotism and passion. So why can't I support a candidate, and by extension, support his or her running mate.

Vance and Walz are good guys... men of intelligence, passion, patriotism, and character (not perfect), but I pick Walz over Vance because of;

* Liberal bias
* The competence, intelligence, passion, character and patriotism of Walz.
* The personality of their principals. Trump has a nasty and an "alpha and omega" character, with him, I don't see J.D Vance having the opportunity to exude his capacity as a Vice President. I see a Mike Pence 2.0. But with Kamala, who is sane and reasonable, I see Walz being given that opportunity to exude his capacity.

So due to this, I've decided to lend my support to the Harris-Walz candidacy. The support for Kamala is the support for Walz, and having Walz at the White House working in partnership with President Kamala Harris, gives me good reasons to believe that America will be in good hands.

Yes, I will not agree with all their views and policies, but hey, there is more to America than whatever views or policies Xavier agrees with or not.



#Xavier

Obrigardo:
Hey y'all.

This is your daily reminder that the rapist felon and traitor trump is losing in a record landslide against a black indian American woman.

So let it be... amen 🙏😎😁


#Xavier

Xavier5:
Yesterday, I had an interaction with a lady regarding the upcoming election, and in the course of the interaction, she said Xavier if you aren't appealed to Trump and Kamala, but you nevertheless prefer their running mates, Vance and Walz, rather than stay neutral during the election, why don't you support these candidates because of their running mates?

Her statement caused moments of reflection in me which made me come in agreement with her. Yes, I'm not a fan of Trump and Kamala for certain reasons, but their running mates appeal to me for numbers of reasons such as competence, intelligence, character (not perfect), patriotism and passion. So why can't I support a candidate, and by extension, support his or her running mate.

Vance and Walz are good guys... men of intelligence, passion, patriotism, and character (not perfect), but I pick Walz over Vance because of;

* Liberal bias
* The competence, intelligence, passion, character and patriotism of Walz.
* The personality of their principals. Trump has a nasty and an "alpha and omega" character, with him, I don't see J.D Vance having the opportunity to exude his capacity as a Vice President. I see a Mike Pence 2.0. But with Kamala, who is sane and reasonable, I see Walz being given that opportunity to exude his capacity.

So due to this, I've decided to lend my support to the Harris-Walz candidacy. The support for Kamala is the support for Walz, and having Walz at the White House working in partnership with President Kamala Harris, gives me good reasons to believe that America will be in good hands.



#Xavier

Give me this your lady friend‘s number. I‘d like to thank her.

Maeve7:


Give me this your lady friend‘s number. I‘d like to thank her.

Don't worry, thank her here, I will make sure she gets the message 😂😂😂😏😏😏


#Xavier

budaatum:


You know very well that atheist me would object to a state using tax money to buy any bibles, moreso inflated priced dump bibles! And that's apart from the fact that the first amendment forbids it.

So you are angry? Atheists like you don't do well when it comes to objective morality.

The first amendment don't even apply here

bemeruca:


So you are angry? Atheists like you don't do well when it comes to objective morality.

No I'm not angry, as I'm used to magas and repuglicans grafting and lying.

I'm disgusted. And I hope they are dealt with in 30 days.

budaatum:


No I'm not angry, as I'm used to magas and repuglicans grafting and lying.

I'm disgusted. And I hope they are dealt with in 30 days.

So you are angry?

You'd be fine if TDS was not an issue for you.

Xavier5:


He can't explain how, base on liberal values, Xavier is not a liberal, but rather choose to believe such simply because it makes him feel good

Also, he's not interested in the topic of abortion, and which liberal value made Xavier pro-life, but rather, is more interested in branding Xavier "not a liberal". This is funny as hell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, if that makes you be at peace, then good. You have my blessings 😊😊😊😊😊


To my fellow liberals that might be curious on why I chose such stand on the issue of abortion. I'm open to discussion. Liberal to liberal, let's engage, as we appeal to our liberal values on the issue 😎

And one more thing to all who care to know, I personally think pro-life and pro-choice are not conservative and liberal ideologies, I feel we are just the one making them so for political reasons. In my interactions with people, I've come across pro-choice conservatives and pro-life liberals, the latter I happen to be a part of... proudly 😎

But as I earlier said, if any liberal here wants to engage me on the topic, I'm open to that discussion, after all, reasoning is a liberal value 🙃🙃🙃




#Xavier

You can't be liberal and at the same time be anti-abortion. Liberalism to means freedom of beliefs, actions and my body, as long as it does not infringement on the rights of other persons or injurious to the long term wellbeing of society.