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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:14am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Omo! Where person wan come japa to if it's this tough already in the UK?

I spoke with a relative in the US over the weekend and he was telling me of how things are tough in Canada too at the moment. He shared the story of a family he's currently following up with in Canada.

The wife was supposed to study and work in Canada so she moved with 3 kids while the husband remained here in naija. He was supposed to join them after they had fully settled over there. Due to one reason or the other, the woman entered CA one week later than resumption date so the school said she couldn't register this September and will have to wait till January.

The issue now is she has been unable to get any job with 3 kids. One of the 3 kids knows how to braid hair so the girl is the one practically sustaining the family of four with the meagre income from the braiding of hairs she does. The father who is in Nigeria is a businessman and has been sending naira to them but his business is on the brink of collapse because the money he's sending is putting a hole in his business account. The current state of naija economy is not helping matters.

Jesus!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:16am On Oct 09
Theflint1:
So doing the pilgrimage is guaranteed jannah, or if you sin post pilgrimage it counts?

You guys sabi maths na

You have 1000 sins ve 900 good deeds

Hell straight

Then again there are a 101 ways to for want of a better word farm good deeds and wipe sins

Night prayers
Supplications
Feeding the poor.
Praying during the night of majesty

Your deeds are recorded until you shuffle off this mortal coil

And even then if you have

Put a well by a mosque
Your kids feed the poor

You still get post death good deeds
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:18am On Oct 09
Itsrm:


Nah, that title is exclusively reserved for GloriousGbola
Anyone who buys excess of usual fuel is a notable contestant
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 10:21am On Oct 09
Amigoss:


Lool...Lagos to Benin,that is here ooo...I sponsored a 14 seater bus and ambulance for a burial ceremony and the bill was returning 300k and 200k,this was July ending before the fuel hike to 1k, the drivers were complaining bitterly about bad roads plus fuel,I just dey wonder the price now.....Na why i personally wan fight obaseki and Apc
The economy of the country isn’t helping matters at all.

I was discussing with an elder two days ago and we talked about prices of items and the price difference between items within the last three years is so significant that you’ll know that this country is going down and has gone down at a very significant level

Nigeria has experienced a better yesteryears

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:22am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Omo! Where person wan come japa to if it's this tough already in the UK?

I spoke with a relative in the US over the weekend and he was telling me of how things are tough in Canada too at the moment. He shared the story of a family he's currently following up with in Canada.

The wife was supposed to study and work in Canada so she moved with 3 kids while the husband remained here in naija. He was supposed to join them after they had fully settled over there. Due to one reason or the other, the woman entered CA one week later than resumption date so the school said she couldn't register this September and will have to wait till January.

The issue now is she has been unable to get any job with 3 kids. One of the 3 kids knows how to braid hair so the girl is the one practically sustaining the family of four with the meagre income from the braiding of hairs she does. The father who is in Nigeria is a businessman and has been sending naira to them but his business is on the brink of collapse because the money he's sending is putting a hole in his business account. The current state of naija economy is not helping matters.
Sorry to say, but it's sounding like they didn't do proper research before moving, e go pay dem down the road, but dem go find am really tough first couple years.

That schooling and working paroles not as easy as it was, even PRs and citizens dey find am tough with jobs, it's why you're seeing Trudeau, a pro-immigration politician enacting stringent immigration policies.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 10:24am On Oct 09
nihilistjnr:


Completely understand your point but subsidy recipients don't all have to be on tbe same level - that's why I mentioned school, fuel etc in addition to Hajj and Jerusalem pilgrimage.

The government doesn't have enough to share to anybody again even the well connected like you mentioned, and that's a serious problem.

Omo with regards to UK, I don't even know where to start..I work as a contractor offering consultancy services to clients but the UK implemented some tax legislation 2 years potential penalising clients if their contractors don't declare taxes appropriately.

As a result a lot of the work that I used to get has now gone offshore, whilst my tax liability has gone through the roof (My business paid over £40k in taxes last year alone, excluding personal income tax), and the prime minister is rumoured to be looking to increase taxes even further up to a rumoured 45%

I ran one small contract on the side this year in a personal capacity rather than through my business and the tax legislation I spoke about led to a situation where my take home after tax and minimum pension contributions was 48%.

Talk about monkey dey work, baboon dey chop. Omo UK as a country is finished for now. It might recover later down the line, but I won't advise anyone to Japa here anytime soon if you want to do more than survive. If you want to earn 25-40k you can turn up - but the moment you decide you want more from life, this country will smack you in the face and dropkick you in the balls.
the rate naija dey influx that uk come dey irritate me .. come be like na invasion sad
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:28am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Omo! Where person wan come japa to if it's this tough already in the UK?

I spoke with a relative in the US over the weekend and he was telling me of how things are tough in Canada too at the moment. He shared the story of a family he's currently following up with in Canada.

The wife was supposed to study and work in Canada so she moved with 3 kids while the husband remained here in naija. He was supposed to join them after they had fully settled over there. Due to one reason or the other, the woman entered CA one week later than resumption date so the school said she couldn't register this September and will have to wait till January.

The issue now is she has been unable to get any job with 3 kids. One of the 3 kids knows how to braid hair so the girl is the one practically sustaining the family of four with the meagre income from the braiding of hairs she does. The father who is in Nigeria is a businessman and has been sending naira to them but his business is on the brink of collapse because the money he's sending is putting a hole in his business account. The current state of naija economy is not helping matters.
You see this japa thing have stopped thinking about it
Every country don't have it easy again, I read from a lady in this Nairaland
She started Canada PR from 2015 and got it this year, then she started looking for work from April only to get it by September imagine she's not financially okay or have people to rely on during those tough times
If you are balling in 9ja it's better to continue or try get foreign remote jobs that pay in USD or pounds
If not to start all over again in foreign land is my biggest fear especially with family
They only have better life in terms of security, good warfare etc
If you look at it sef with money all these are possible in 9ja
Why spend fortune of almost 30m to japa Omo I no fit


Someone was telling us about US sef, school route

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 10:28am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


my generators have dual carburator - with these figures, using lpg is a no brainer - though lpg has also been climbing for reasons no one can pin point

Me and generatordon share garri.....I am on my car cos transportation is about to boom again..



I am trying to get more info about the disadvantage of using cng on cars........

What is the effect on engines
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 10:29am On Oct 09
Shegzdave:

The economy of the country isn’t helping matters at all.

I was discussing with an elder two days ago and we talked about prices of items and the price difference between items within the last three years is so significant that you’ll know that this country is going down and has gone down at a very significant level

Nigeria has experienced a better yesteryears

It is not looking good mehn
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:34am On Oct 09

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 10:45am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Omo! Where person wan come japa to if it's this tough already in the UK?

I spoke with a relative in the US over the weekend and he was telling me of how things are tough in Canada too at the moment. He shared the story of a family he's currently following up with in Canada.

The wife was supposed to study and work in Canada so she moved with 3 kids while the husband remained here in naija. He was supposed to join them after they had fully settled over there. Due to one reason or the other, the woman entered CA one week later than resumption date so the school said she couldn't register this September and will have to wait till January.

The issue now is she has been unable to get any job with 3 kids. One of the 3 kids knows how to braid hair so the girl is the one practically sustaining the family of four with the meagre income from the braiding of hairs she does. The father who is in Nigeria is a businessman and has been sending naira to them but his business is on the brink of collapse because the money he's sending is putting a hole in his business account. The current state of naija economy is not helping matters.

Canada has been fücked for a long time based on what I've heard from awon temi over there.

The biggest problem most people would find is the managing high cost of living vs Income earnings.

That's why I said you can survive in UK because low income jobs still dey and low to mid incomes in the 40-60k bracket are harder to find but them still dey around.

The problem is when you have settled down and are now looking to move from surviving to thriving. Firstly taxation will kick you in the throat.

For example the difference between earning 50k annual salary and 60k annual salary is only £500 extra a month, because additional taxes kick in to ensure that you don't take too much home...yet the difference in operational responsibilities between a 50k earner and a 60k earner in the same company could be fairly substantial.

So like in Hezbollah, you might find people trying to avoid promotion because their responsibilities increase significantly with only margnial increase in compensation. Meanwhile bills are high af and only getting higher.

But it's when you hit 6 figures that you really feel that pain. Your take home on a 100k salary is about 68k before pension contributions. Your take home on a 200k salary is 118k - the government is eating 82k of your money just like that.

When im talking about japa struggle its this particular part I'm talking about. Most of us came here to thrive not just to survive. And the government is making it increasingly more difficult to do so.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:53am On Oct 09
Segedinho:


Me and generatordon share garri.....I am on my car cos transportation is about to boom again..



I am trying to get more info about the disadvantage of using cng on cars........

What is the effect on engines

if you use lpg with petrol engine generator, you burn through oil faster.

that has been my experience
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 11:01am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


if you use lpg with petrol engine generator, you burn through oil faster.

that has been my experience

Oks....
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 11:04am On Oct 09
izzou:


Nigeria is never recovering from this anytime soon.

The country expired a long time ago but does not know. It is like when people cut a chicken's head off and it keeps running around not knowing that it is dead.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 11:08am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


if you use lpg with petrol engine generator, you burn through oil faster.

that has been my experience
Just contacted someone on the cng ..


He said there will be a "waiting time" of approximately 5th months in benin...🥺🥺
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:08am On Oct 09
Theflint1:
Sorry to say, but it's sounding like they didn't do proper research before moving, e go pay dem down the road, but dem go find am really tough first couple years.

That schooling and working paroles not as easy as it was, even PRs and citizens dey find am tough with jobs, it's why you're seeing Trudeau, a pro-immigration politician enacting stringent immigration policies.

Lol @ the bolded. If e never happen to u ehn, u go think say the people involved no plan well. Mike Tyson said everyone thinks they've got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

Even people that planned are extremely well are finding things difficult over there. A very close friend of mine moved to UK around October 2022 for Masters. He already had a masters here in naija and had a decent paying job where he's a team lead. Initially I was worried how he's going to cope running masters and work togther but he was able to weather the storm.

Fast forward to 2023 he was done with masters and the search for a decent job began. It's been over a year now and he's yet to get a decent job that can at least change his status. He's been doing jama-jama till date and bitterly lamenting about situation of things. He has attended several interviews and all they kept telling him is sorry he doesn't have a UK Job experience.

I didn't know how bad things were for my guy until another of our friend who entered UK on care visa was gisting me about his own experience. They both linked up for a while over there before that one japa commot UK. That one told me how they both did any menial job that comes their way from lawn mower job to security for night clubs to even serving jollof rice & small chops at parties. I felt pained that my guy with 2 masters is serving food at parties but the guy that was gisting me said and I quote " Padi even if u get 3 PhD's if u never see better job for UK ehn, u fit do cleaner just to pay ur bills o"

I agree that things will get better in the long run but make person never enter depression before things get better o.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:11am On Oct 09
iamoyindamola:

You see this japa thing have stopped thinking about it
Every country don't have it easy again, I read from a lady in this Nairaland
She started Canada PR from 2015 and got it this year, then she started looking for work from April only to get it by September imagine she's not financially okay or have people to rely on during those tough times
If you are balling in 9ja it's better to continue or try get foreign remote jobs that pay in USD or pounds
If not to start all over again in foreign land is my biggest fear especially with family
They only have better life in terms of security, good warfare etc
If you look at it sef with money all these are possible in 9ja
Why spend fortune of almost 30m to japa Omo I no fit


Someone was telling us about US sef, school route

Na US Visa hard pass, but if u enter US u go still see way to survive unlike UK wey be say depression fit kill person before things soft.

The fact that some Nigerians over there in the UK are further exploiting new entrants is not helping matters. Naija's will give plenty people COS for care job with few shifts available.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:13am On Oct 09
nihilistjnr:


Canada has been fücked for a long time based on what I've heard from awon temi over there.

The biggest problem most people would find is the managing high cost of living vs Income earnings.

That's why I said you can survive in UK because low income jobs still dey and low to mid incomes in the 40-60k bracket are harder to find but them still dey around.

The problem is when you have settled down and are now looking to move from surviving to thriving. Firstly taxation will kick you in the throat.

For example the difference between earning 50k annual salary and 60k annual salary is only £500 extra a month, because additional taxes kick in to ensure that you don't take too much home...yet the difference in operational responsibilities between a 50k earner and a 60k earner in the same company could be fairly substantial.

So like in Hezbollah, you might find people trying to avoid promotion because their responsibilities increase significantly with only margnial increase in compensation. Meanwhile bills are high af and only getting higher.

But it's when you hit 6 figures that you really feel that pain. Your take home on a 100k salary is about 68k before pension contributions. Your take home on a 200k salary is 118k - the government is eating 82k of your money just like that.

When im talking about japa struggle its this particular part I'm talking about. Most of us came here to thrive not just to survive. And the government is making it increasingly more difficult to do so.

Na wa o.Even here in naija I dey vex for how much I pay as tax; anytime I look at my payslip anger dey always build inside me.

Does this high tax rates also apply to footballers too?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:17am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Lol @ the bolded. If e never happen to u ehn, u go think say the people involved no plan well. Mike Tyson said everyone thinks they've got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

Even people that planned are extremely well are finding things difficult over there. A very close friend of mine moved to UK around October 2022 for Masters. He already had a masters here in naija and had a decent paying job where he's a team lead. Initially I was worried how he's going to cope running masters and work togther but he was able to weather the storm.

Fast forward to 2023 he was done with masters and the search for a decent job began. It's been over a year now and he's yet to get a decent job that can at least change his status. He's been doing jama-jama till date and bitterly lamenting about situation of things. He has attended several interviews and all they kept telling him is sorry he doesn't have a UK Job experience.

I didn't know how bad things were for my guy until another of our friend who entered UK on care visa was gisting me about his own experience. They both linked up for a while over there before that one japa commot UK. That one told me how they both did any menial job that comes their way from lawn mower job to security for night clubs to even serving jollof rice & small chops at parties. I felt pained that my guy with 2 masters is serving food at parties but the guy that was gisting me said and I quote " Padi even if u get 3 PhD's if u never see better job for UK ehn, u fit do cleaner just to pay ur bills o"

I agree that things will get better in the long run but make person never enter depression before things get better o.
Single parent with 3 kids and hoping to combine school and side hustle sounds like a recipe for disaster. Maybe like 4 years ago, to wing am no go ruff like that, but from what I'm hearing of Canada these days, all that baggage e go hard wella.

And true, e no get how you wan plan reach for these things, if reality is determined for fvck one over, it will. Even people with tons of experience from Naija and overseas dey find am difficult.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:20am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Na US Visa hard pass, but if u enter US u go still see way to survive unlike UK wey be say depression fit kill person before things soft.

The fact that some Nigerians over there in the UK are further exploiting new entrants is not helping matters. Naija's will give plenty people COS for care job with few shifts available.
Undocumented sef dey drive Tesla, US na different beast. Most Canada japa, na US be target final destination.

That issue of Nigerian's exploiting Nigerian's is a problem in itself, na why sometimes I no dey blame people wey dey advice to avoid Nigerian's when you japa to these countries. We just gats dey do better as a people. Indians, Pakistanis and other nationals are able to settle in a lot faster because their communities over there are helpful.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:22am On Oct 09
Theflint1:
Single parent with 3 kids and hoping to combine school and side hustle sounds like a recipe for disaster. Maybe like 4 years ago, to wing am no go ruff like that, but from what I'm hearing of Canada these days, all that baggage e go hard wella.

And true, e no get how you wan plan reach for these things, if reality is determined for fvck one over, it will. Even people with tons of experience from Naija and overseas dey find am difficult.

They were probably thinking the husband sending naira combined with the wife working over there will see them throughout the period of her schooling. I guess the naija economy made the husband's contribution insignificant.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:23am On Oct 09
Theflint1:
Single parent with 3 kids and hoping to combine school and side hustle sounds like a recipe for disaster. Maybe like 4 years ago, to wing am no go ruff like that, but from what I'm hearing of Canada these days, all that baggage e go hard wella.

And true, e no get how you wan plan reach for these things, if reality is determined for fvck one over, it will. Even people with tons of experience from Naija and overseas dey find am difficult.

the last thing you want is to have underage kids in uk or west in general if you are struggling. there is no support system or cheap child minding labour

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:28am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Na wa o.Even here in naija I dey vex for how much I pay as tax; anytime I look at my payslip anger dey always build inside me.

Does this high tax rates also apply to footballers too?

It depends I guess.

I know a league 1 baller personally that gets paid per month,so his PAYE tax contributions are likely to be pushing 40-50%

I also know a couple of England rugby internationals personally and whilst it's not football, the way they structure their deals is dubious so they pay them lower salaries, then also partly pay them either offshore or through the setup of a limited company on their behalf that they then pay. One of them, his club bought him a landrover defender 2 months ago worth 180k and instead of paying him the cash that would get taxed to hell.

So I imagine that the elite level ballers probably have some interesting tax avoidance schemes setup up by their clubs on their behalf. I cannot imagine Haaland paying half as an example.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:31am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Na US Visa hard pass, but if u enter US u go still see way to survive unlike UK wey be say depression fit kill person before things soft.

The fact that some Nigerians over there in the UK are further exploiting new entrants is not helping matters. Naija's will give plenty people COS for care job with few shifts available.
Plus the 2 years limit them to the job for 2 years
Imagine not doing anything tangible for 2 years

Btw US visa lottery is out
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:33am On Oct 09
GloriousGbola:


the last thing you want is to have underage kids in uk or west in general if you are struggling. there is no support system or cheap child minding labour
Exactly, the system over there doesn't joke with child welfare, those underage kids (say ages 5 below) will need a stay at home parent, or daycare which isn't free.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:34am On Oct 09
iamoyindamola:

Plus the 2 years limit them to the job for 2 years
Imagine not doing anything tangible for 2 years

Btw US visa lottery is out
Nigeria isn't eligible sha
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:36am On Oct 09
iamoyindamola:

Plus the 2 years limit them to the job for 2 years
Imagine not doing anything tangible for 2 years

Btw US visa lottery is out

Yes, that 2 years post job visa, person fit spend am without getting a job that will give u sponsorship visa sef.

Naija has not been on the countries eligible for US Visa lottery since early 2010's or thereabouts
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:37am On Oct 09
Theflint1:
Nigeria isn't eligible sha
yes
BlueRayDick:


Yes, that 2 years post job visa, person fit spend am without getting a job that will give u sponsorship visa sef.

Naija has not been on the countries eligible for US Visa lottery since early 2010's or thereabouts
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:48am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick you can see how bills wan kill my papa and its only Wednesday.

Edit: it's like S.eun server still having problems with posting pics sha
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 11:49am On Oct 09
BlueRayDick:


Na US Visa hard pass, but if u enter US u go still see way to survive unlike UK wey be say depression fit kill person before things soft.

The fact that some Nigerians over there in the UK are further exploiting new entrants is not helping matters. Naija's will give plenty people COS for care job with few shifts available.


The truth is that everywhere is rugged. Apart from maybe some of the oil-rich countries, na oju eje most countries dey. There are people making it everywhere o, but the mathematical probability no dey like before.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:51am On Oct 09
nihilistjnr:
BlueRayDick you can see how bills wan kill my papa and its only Wednesday.

Edit: it's like S.eun server still having problems with posting pics sha

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BlueRayDick:


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