budaatum:


You, basilico, are aborted for making up lies as you do.

Your stance on your body your choice leaves no room for doubt that you would like NHS to pay for your abortion and have a law enacted that NHS should always cover elective abortions at any point of the pregnancy. After it's just a mass of unwanted cells growing in your body.

LordReed:


So you've seen the unedited version? Where did you see it if so?

Search my post here about her word salad, then watch the relevant part of the X video that I posted.

basilico:


Your stance on your body your choice leaves no room for doubt that you would like NHS to pay .........

NHS will not and does not need to pay for aborting the nuisance unwanted cell that you are in this thread that is not about aborting you in UK but about aborting you from a thread titled Politics in America.

In fact, if you had any dignity whatsoever, you would have aborted your nuisance unwanted self a long time ago, but since dignity is not intrinsic in you, I would willingly pay with my own money to abort the nuisance unwanted cell that you are.

budaatum:


NHS will not and does not need to pay for aborting the nuisance unwanted cell that you are in this thread that is not about aborting you in UK but about aborting you from a thread titled Politics in America.

In fact, if you had any dignity whatsoever, you would have aborted your nuisance unwanted self a long time ago, but since dignity is not intrinsic in you, I would willingly pay with my own money to abort the nuisance unwanted cell that you are.

😂😂😂 Omg 🤣

kkins25:

Abortion, in our society isn't the norm. Since it's an new development, it's up to it's champions to come up with arguments to convince society to accept it.

Indeed abortion was not the norm in our society. In the past we carried the unwanted baby to term and then bashed its head with a rock and drowned it in a river, or just smothered it with a pillow, but new development has thankfully arrived and championed abortions instead, which have been very easily accepted instead of the barbaric infanticide that was the norm.

kkins25:
You can't enter building and tell somebody who believes babies are gifts from God that the "baby is like a parasite." Haba!

No one is entering any building to tell anyone that their gift of God baby is a parasite and should be aborted! And if anyone did enter a building and tell anyone that their gift of God baby is a parasite that should be aborted, the mother would rightly scratch that person's eyes out if her relatives and others don't first, unless that baby was basilico, who most would pay and rejoice to have aborted even long after term because he is a nuisance and not from anything worth keeping.

budaatum:


NHS will not and does not need to pay for aborting the nuisance unwanted cell that you are in this thread that is not about aborting you in UK but about aborting you from a thread titled Politics in America.

In fact, if you had any dignity whatsoever, you would have aborted your nuisance unwanted self a long time ago, but since dignity is not intrinsic in you, I would willingly pay with my own money to abort the nuisance unwanted cell that you are.

I can boast 8000 likes out of 12.5K posts.
Hmmm. I'm unwanted here.
By people who support abortions .

kkins25:
I'm not particularly arguing against abortion, I'm just trying to point out that the arguments for abortion, aside from that of rape and minors, aren't a solid one. Or, rather, not convincing.

You'd have a point if anyone here was trying to convince you to abort your baby even if you got it by being raped and are a minor, but no one is trying to convince you to abort anything except the nuisance basilico who does need to be aborted and for whom I got the numbers for already and don't need yours!

kkins25:

Can you answer this though, If an unborn child is not your "child" yet, why do all states agree to check for viability before even agreeing to contemplate carrying out an abortion on a 24-week-old fetus? Why not abort an 8-month-old fetus? why not just wait until delivery and then unalive the baby? We can go on and on about the metaphysics.

The nuisance here will lie to you that "in Springfield, they are aborting 9 month pregnancies, they are aborting at 12 months, they are even aborting at 12 years old", but I guess that's why he's a lying nuisance.

We check because we don't just want to abort willynilly and because we are not murderers and because its the decent proper right thing to do. Otherwise, we'd still be bashing babies heads against rocks at the bottom of the river.

And that act sums it up. I have indeed commited murder if I kill the wanted gift of God foetus in your womb against your will, but if you kill or ask me to help you kill the foetus in your own womb within the limits the law allows, we have committed a legal abortion. The first is like stealing from you, while the second is you willingly giving something away.

It's been days of discussion on the issue of abortion, and I must say it's amazing. Regarding this, I feel the need to give a summary of all I've been saying regarding the issue of abortion.

As I made it known, I'm pro-life, and my reasons for that is because I believe that all human life irrespective of race, gender, viability, socio-economic status, intelligence, or stage of development, has intrinsic value because they're human, and as such should have the principle of human rights, equality, love, respect, care and protection binding on them all. I believe a fetus is a human life because it meets the requirements or the basic requirements for a human life hence the stated principle is also binding on it. I am a huge supporter of liberty, especially bodily liberty, but when a human life is being hurt, I oppose.

Regarding the issue of intrinsic human value, I will address that next week when chanced. And unlike what IjeBos said, it's not a religious belief but a philosophical one. I uphold the belief, religion or no religion, and I will be addressing it from a philosophical lens, and not a religious lens.

Regarding my pro-life, I do make it clear, that I'm not an extreme pro-life but rather I am, what I term, common sense or rational pro-life. This is because, abortion itself is complex due to the fact that it consist of the issues of human life, bodily liberty, health, financial issues, and emotional and mental issues.

Due to the complex nature of abortion, outrightly enforcing pro-life can't be feasible without being inhumane. For such to be the case, there have to be a system that ensures;

* That women aren't forced to assume motherhood responsibilities against their will.
* That the life of the child and fetus are protected
* That the welfare and healthcare of women and children are effectively in place
* That the menance of unwanted pregnancies is being tackled.

The system is what I personally call the Abortion Mitigating System aka AMS. The AMS is a system that is meant to;

* Promote celibacy and birth control usage culture.
* Subsidize birth controls in other to make them affordable, accessible and available.
* Create good, affordable and access healthcare for women and children
* Create effective and well funded child support and orphanage systems.
* Allow abortion in the CRITICAL CASES which are, one, medically or surgically unremedied life threatening pregnancies; two, pre-adolescent pregnancies; and three, life threatening deformity of the fetus. The first two deal with the life of the female, while the last deals with the life of the child.

With the AMS in place;

* Unwanted pregnancies will drop significantly due to, one, the subsidization, affordability, accessibility and availability of birth controls; and two, the promotion of the celibacy and birth control usage culture
* The woman won't be made to bear motherhood responsibilities over the child against her will thanks to the effective orphanage system.
* The health and welfare of children will be ensured thanks to the child support and orphanage systems, likewise the good, affordable and accessible healthcare.
* The health of the woman will be ensured thanks to good, affordable and accessible healthcare, likewise the allowance of abortion in the critical cases.

With the AMS effectively in place, pro-life can be effectively enforced. Trying to enforce pro-life without the AMS in place is like building a mansion without a foundation. It is inhumane and evil. Pro-lifers that think they can actually enforce pro-life without effectively establishing the AMS are just being delusional. This is why I'm against the abortion ban by Red States without the existence of an effective AMS.

If the AMS can be created to address the issue of abortion, rather than jump on the boat of abortion, isn't it moral, altruistic and rational to create it? Is it not better we make the effort to create such system and it fails, than to not make the effort at all?

I believe if the government and the society make effort to effectively establish the AMS, it will and can be possible, and if it fails, well, we tried.

Yes, establishing the AMS will be financially, emotionally, mentally and physically straining, but a human life is worth such strain. It will involve a lot of time, work and resources, but nevertheless if the government and society are committed to ensuring its existence, it will and can be possible, and if it fails, as I earlier said, we tried. But it's better we tried and it fails, than to not try at all, and we can never know if it will work if we don't try

But here is something I need to outline;

* Before the AMS is effectively established, pro-choice should be allowed due ot the complex nature of the issue of abortion.
* If the AMS fails, pro-choice should be allowed due to the complexities of abortion. Yes, some people will abuse the pro-choice system, but that doesn't negate the complexity of abortion. So in such circumstance, pro-choice plays what I will term, a greater beneficial role or function.
* If the AMS works, abortion should still be allowed in the Critical Cases due to the life of the female and the child.

Another concern is, if AMS is effectively established, and pro-life is enforced, should women who abort (with exclusion of the critical cases) face jail term? Of course not. I don't support legal punishment due to the sensitive nature of abortion thanks to the fact that it involves the issues of bodily liberty and human life. But if there should be a legal punishment, it should be a fine, and not a jail term. Jail term is just extreme, inhumane and evil.

This sums up my pro-life view... one I'm enormously proud of and committed to.



#Xavier

basilico:


I can boast 8000 likes out of 12.5K posts.
Hmmm. I'm unwanted here.

You can boast that 2 people follow you too, but I can assure you that I will make profit if I crowdfund to abort you because you contribute only nonsense here.

kkins25:
We already have mandates for other vaccines. The Vaccine in that context was COVID vaccine.

That's just one of the theories often used.

As long as you know I didn't use it.

Yes, I'm aware. Our society is predominantly Christian and Muslim now, and the values have changed.

You are aware yet you said it is a new thing. So what if our society is now predominantly Christian and Muslim now, and the values have changed, how does that change history?

basilico:


I can boast 8000 likes out of 12.5K posts.
Hmmm. I'm unwanted here.
By people who support abortions .

LMAO! Look at a full fledged adult rejoicing over Internet points. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

budaatum:


You can boast that 2 people follow you too, but I can assure you that I will make profit if I crowdfund to abort you because you contribute only nonsense here.

Show us yours😀😀😀
Homework teacher.

Xavier5:

As I made it known, I'm pro-life, and my reasons for that is because I believe that all human life irrespective of race, gender, viability, socio-economic status, intelligence, or stage of development, has intrinsic value......

As I've told you, as soon as I get to those last two words I quoted above in anything you post, I just stop reading.

The reason is that you have not yet explained what you mean by those words so everything else you say is pointless, and much of what you've said up to then becomes meaningless.

Fuq man! You'd have explained your "intrinsic value" in fewer words than this if you cared or knew what you are talking about and respected your intended audience!

I'm going to wait till you explain what you mean by those words. Then perhaps you can repost this to remind me to read it. Until then, and only as far as I am concerned, you are pissing in the wind and I am thankfully upwind so it doesn't blow on me.

LordReed:


LMAO! Look at a full fledged adult rejoicing over Internet points. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

I'm a nuisance. I put that up to prove it. 2/3 of what I ever wrote pleased someone. How about you?

basilico:


Show us yours😀😀😀
Homework teacher.

Compare your limp diq with my bra, basilico, you immature nuisance!

And that's with 42817 posts. Do the math.

basilico:


I'm a nuisance. I put that up to prove it. 2/3 of what I ever wrote pleased someone. How about you?

Yes, a nuisance boasting of Internet points. LoLz.

No, nuisance, I don't boast about Internet points.

raumdeuter:


I completely agree with this. This is exactly why I am in support of abortion. Dont give birth to kids for someone else to finance

lol... And for you that like kpekus and also like sowing your seed on every available fertile land, without abortion, you for pay child support tire

Admit, that is why you are not conservative with abortion

budaatum:


Compare your limp diq with my bra, basilico, you immature nuisance!

And that's with 42817 posts. Do the math.

Impressive. There are more liberals here than conservatives by a big percentage and you also like the sex sections. Which have more traffic

basilico:


Impressive. There are more liberals here than conservatives by a big percentage and you also like the sex sections. Which have more traffic

You are a nuisance liar that needs to be aborted!

budaatum:


You are a nuisance liar that needs to be aborted!

My opinions as stated in my earlier post to the resident idiot is 100% factually correct , and no mere mortal can ever convince me otherwise.
Just like we can never convince you not to abort an 8 month foetus.
Put up with me or ship out.

VP Harris is pressing the right buttons right now, like on Key.

An appeal like this is definitely going to hit a section of republicans. Even Mike Pence would be satisfied because there's the idea the Biden admin sees him in a good way.

She's winning over that "silent" republicans who are tired of the maga cult. And that's a sizeable election winning numbers within this voting bloc.

Vice President Harris: When people are applying for a job, they'll often ask, ‘why is the job open?’ One must ask, why was the job of Donald Trump's running mate open? Because his vice president Mike Pence stood for country above party. He stood for Constitution above pleasing someone who actively incited a violent mob to undo the will of the people

LordReed:


LMAO! Look at a full fledged adult rejoicing over Internet points. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Sadly, he's a micro-penis in the larger maga cult. That's who they are, devoid of reality. Many are languishing in jail for Jan 6th coz they believed in conspiracy theories and lies.

They are so rabid pushing misinformation, and the only place they can do that without guard rails is the internet. So basilico loco will basically fit in this group.

basilico:


My opinions as stated in my earlier post to the resident idiot is 100% factually correct , and no mere mortal can ever convince me otherwise.
Just like we can never convince you not to abort an 8 month foetus.
Put up with me or ship out.

You are the resident idiot, whether you are convinced or not. And no one has to put up with you when we can just repeatedly tell you you are a pointless nuisance.

Trust me. When I'm bored of you, I wouldn't even notice you, but for now I got time to process aborting you.

kkins25:

Abortion, in our society isn't the norm. Since it's an new development, it's up to it's champions to come up with arguments to convince society to accept it. Either that or they employ the governments autonomy to enforce it.

Had to read this part thanks to budas response and I just shook my head.

Let's be objective. What gives you the right to say Abortion isn't the norm? I'm not attacking you, just asking a plain question? I'll guess your obvious answer would be your Religion.

More religions than you can think have nothing against abortion. Judaism is one. So if you want to be fair, why must you use your Religion to make laws for everyone and for a majority that don't ascribe to your Religion? Let's be honest here bro.

Religion clouds our mind and moves our focus away from our complex reality. Most women don't just decide to have an abortion like they are drinking water. There's lots of complexities involved. I believe those who say they are anti-abortion are afraid to grapple with the harsh reality of life.

Obrigardo:
VP Harris is pressing the right buttons right now, like on Key.

An appeal like this is definitely going to hit a section of republicans. Even Mike Pence would be satisfied because there's the idea the Biden admin sees him in a good way.

She's winning over that "silent" republicans who are tired of the maga cult. And that's a sizeable election winning numbers within this voting bloc.

Vice President Harris: When people are applying for a job, they'll often ask, ‘why is the job open?’ One must ask, why was the job of Donald Trump's running mate open? Because his vice president Mike Pence stood for country above party. He stood for Constitution above pleasing someone who actively incited a violent mob to undo the will of the people

When you get to that point, you have lost the plot.
Before 2016 Obama was spying on Trump, his campaign and aides - an offence 1 gazillion times than what Nixon did. After winning by 50000 votes , fbi recorded General Flynn the incoming Nat Sec Advisor a call with Kisylak, the Russian ambassador. Flynn spoke with Pence and he didn't mention that he had talked with the Russian. Then ( Oh Fcck the name of that bitch comes again) Mary McCord and Sally Yates of DOJ confronted WH Counsel with the transcript of the call to the evil Russians. Traitor Pence went public about Flynn not having informed him
of his call with the evil Russian. Flynn had to resign a few days after taking office
Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka ambushed Flynn at the WH asking him about his call with the Russian. They had the full transcript so they wanted him to say something different from what they already had. They were setting him up in a trap of " lying to FBI'. They didn't catch him , but they went ahead and charged him with that crime where they bankrupted him and forced him into a plea deal. This was the redacted interview

https://www.scribd.com/document/395906943/Joe-Pientka-and-Peter-Strzok-Interview-of-Michael-Flynn-Redacted-FD-302.

Pence was a traitor from day one to the last day, He would have sent the contested electoral college back to the states for deliberation.

One day these crimes will be uncovered and acted out in a movie. I might be hired as a narrator since my spoken English has no accent at all.

basilico:


When you get to that point, you have lost the plot.

Everything you wrote after this was your insanity on full display.

But explain yourself. What point? Which plot was lost?

Obrigardo:
I'll guess your obvious answer would be your Religion.

I actually owe kkins25 so much and was about to say but found his own words so he says it himself.

kkins25:

Bear in mind, that I am an atheist.

But know that some atheists are recidivist to their previous religions, or even adopt atheism as their new religion. Not that I'm saying kk does either, mind.

Just so we all know barbarism still exists.

She threw her one-day-old infant into the gutter
https://www.nairaland.com/8234942/housewife-dump-day-old-baby-gutter#132352199

Kamala harris is toast

Obrigardo:


Everything you wrote after this was your insanity on full display.

But explain yourself. What point? Which plot was lost?

Everything I wrote is a very brief summary of the FBI DOJ Obama crimes against mainly the persona of candidate Trump and his close associates

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Obrigardo:


Had to read this part thanks to budas response and I just shook my head.

Let's be objective. What gives you the right to say Abortion isn't the norm? I'm not attacking you, just asking a plain question? I'll guess your obvious answer would be your Religion.

More religions than you can think have nothing against abortion. Judaism is one. So if you want to be fair, why must you use your Religion to make laws for everyone and for a majority that don't ascribe to your Religion? Let's be honest here bro.

Religion clouds our mind and moves our focus away from our complex reality. Most women don't just decide to have an abortion like they are drinking water. There's lots of complexities involved. I believe those who say they are anti-abortion are afraid to grapple with the harsh reality of life.

Abortions should be looked at from a moral point of view. In most cases as was stated here yesterday both participants took part in the creation of a new life, with a very delirious ending