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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:29pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


thank you. Have you noticed how people try to argue it is not human? that is my problem. they dehumanize it because they want to kill it. LAWFULLY

We lawfully kill humans all the time, heck look at you advocating for Israel to kill people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:29pm On Oct 09
lordreed, the irony is that many people who are okay with lawfully killing a baby have problems when it comes to lawfully killing a criminal.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:31pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


I hear you... How do you unlawfully kill a Lice or a Zygote?
Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

not Zygote to Fetus or lice or a Tick.

A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote?

Not sure why I need to repeat that i have already given you an example.

A fetus or zygote isn't a baby, just like a baby isn't an adult.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:31pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


We lawfully kill humans all the time, heck look at you advocating for Israel to kill people.

you are going too far. I agree we lawfully kill humans.
what did the baby do that they are killing it? did it commit any crime? the law is the law, people can have their abortion if the law allows them but let's not dehumanize the unborn child
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:32pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


At least Bill Maher has the courage to call it MURDER and he is a liberal who supports abortion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQvB55pAFy0

I am with Bill Maher on this. Its murder and I am okay with it. Some people are not Okay with it

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:33pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


Not sure why I need to repeat that i have already given you an example.

A fetus or zygote isn't a baby, just like a baby isn't an adult.

absurd analogy. has a woman ever delivered a dog? or a lice? humanity starts when the sperm meets the egg. from there it grows through stage till it dies. Saying a baby is not an adult is crazy. no one is born an adult.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:33pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


What part of UNLAWFUL killing do you not understand?

So why is it DOUBLE instead of Single(Just the woman)
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:33pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:
lordreed, the irony is that many people who are okay with lawfully killing a baby have problems when it comes to lawfully killing a criminal.

May be because the ramifications are on a much larger scale? But you'll have to ask them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:34pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


So why is it DOUBLE instead of Single(Just the woman)

he cannot answer
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:35pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


So why is it DOUBLE instead of Single(Just the woman)

Because you UNLAWFULLY killed a HUMAN fetus and it's HUMAN mother.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:36pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


May be because the ramifications are on a much larger scale? But you'll have to ask them.

A criminal who killed multiple people should live, Society that is okay with the lawful killing of a baby is mad at the lawful killing of a criminal. IRONY
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


Because you UNLAWFULLY killed a HUMAN fetus and it's HUMAN mother.

So you agree killing a Human fetus is homicide(murder)?
Then tell why is abortion where a human fetus is killed not homicide(murder)
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:38pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


So you agree killing a Human fetus is homicide(murder)?
Then tell why is abortion where a human fetus is killed not homicide(murder)

What part of UNLAWFULLY is giving you trouble?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:39pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


A criminal who killed multiple people should live, Society that is okay with the lawful killing of a baby is mad at the lawful killing of a criminal. IRONY

Like I said ask those people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:39pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


So you agree killing a Human fetus is homicide(murder)?
Then tell why is abortion where a human fetus is killed not homicide(murder)

he argues that abortion is a lawful termination of a baby. So I give him that. In that case, it cannot be homicide
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:41pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


What part of UNLAWFULLY is giving you trouble?

Leave the lawful or unlawful. You agree that its taking the life of a human fetus. You just want the murder to be lawful
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:41pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


absurd analogy. has a woman ever delivered a dog? or a lice? humanity starts when the sperm meets the egg. from there it grows through stage till it dies. Saying a baby is not an adult is crazy. no one is born an adult.

Right so a baby can get a driver's license? The absurd one here is you. Tomorrow you'll come and lie about how LGBTQ folks are dancing erotica dance at children's schools. So the children are only adults when you wish it?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:41pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


he argues that abortion is a lawful termination of a baby. So I give him that. In that case, it cannot be homicide

So lawful murder. which I dont have a problem with. Just don't claim its not murder
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:43pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


Leave the lawful or unlawful. You agree that its taking the life of a human fetus. You just want the murder to be lawful

So does an unborn child have the right to life? if it is Double Homicide then the question has been answered. lawful or not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:44pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


Leave the lawful or unlawful. You agree that its taking the life of a human fetus. You just want the murder to be lawful

Yes I want the KILLING to be lawful.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 7:44pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


I hear you... How do you unlawfully kill a Lice or a Zygote?
Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

not Zygote to Fetus or lice or a Tick.

A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote?
It is not a baby until it is born. That's why we start counting its existence on this earth aka its birthday on the day it left its mother's womb, where prematurely or on full term or even extra term. That's why a pregnant woman says I am expecting a baby or I am going to have a baby.
No way a fetus can be termed a baby.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:45pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


Right so a baby can get a driver's license? The absurd one here is you. Tomorrow you'll come and lie about how LGBTQ folks are dancing erotica dance at children's schools. So the children are only adults when you wish it?

driver's License does not signify personhood. I know a lot of adults who do not have a driver's license. If you cannot drive you cannot get one. if you are blind, you cannot get one. so a blind person does not have rights because he can't get a driver's license?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 7:47pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


So does an unborn child have the right to life? if it is Double Homicide then the question has been answered. lawful or not.
It's the mother that gives it the Homicide status, without the mother it is simply termed abortion. If a person kills a baby without killing the mother it could never be termed single Homicide or murder.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:48pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


Yes I want the KILLING to be lawful.

Exactly. I am with you on that. You want the lawful murder of human fetus. Some people think the murder of fetus should be unlawful

I think killing of mass shooters should be lawful, some states dont agree
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:49pm On Oct 09
wirinet:

It is not a baby until it is born. That's why we start counting its existence on this earth aka its birthday on the day it left its mother's womb, where prematurely or on full term or even extra term. That's why a pregnant woman says I am expecting a baby or I am going to have a baby.
No way a fetus can be termed a baby.

He asked a question, why is killing a pregnant woman called double homicide. who are the people they are counting as the Two?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:50pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


Exactly. I am with you on that. You want the lawful murder of human fetus. Some people think the murder of fetus should be unlawful

I think killing of mass shooters should be lawful, some states dont agree


What part of "murder is unlawful killing" is giving you trouble?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 7:51pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


Exactly. I am with you on that. You want the lawful murder of human fetus. Some people think the murder of fetus should be unlawful

I think killing of mass shooters should be lawful, some states dont agree

You are using the correct term now, murder of a fetus and not murder of a baby.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 7:55pm On Oct 09
wirinet:

It's the mother that gives it the Homicide status, without the mother it is simply termed abortion. If a person kills a baby without killing the mother it could never be termed single Homicide or murder.

I did not see the word abortion
Fort Lauderdale man arrested for killing unborn baby after beating pregnant woman with baseball bat
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/fort-lauderdale-man-arrested-for-killing-unborn-baby-after-beating-pregnant-woman-with-baseball-bat/

the mother of the child does not have the power to decide when something is homicide or not.
On Friday, the Broward Sheriff's Office stated that homicide detectives had arrested 34-year-old Emmanuel Prevaly on the charge of killing an unborn child by injury to the mother.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 7:56pm On Oct 09
bemeruca:


driver's License does not signify personhood. I know a lot of adults who do not have a driver's license. If you cannot drive you cannot get one. if you are blind, you cannot get one. so a blind person does not have rights because he can't get a driver's license?

You claimed my analogy was absurd because I said a baby is not an adult, well is it or is it not an adult? Answer that. If you say a baby is an adult then it should be able to get a driver's license since we generally give adults driver's license don't we.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 7:56pm On Oct 09
wirinet:

It's the mother that gives it the Homicide status, without the mother it is simply termed abortion. If a person kills a baby without killing the mother it could never be termed single Homicide or murder.

If you ram a pregnant woman with a car, she survives but the baby dies what have you done?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 8:00pm On Oct 09
LordReed:


You claimed my analogy was absurd because I said a baby is not an adult, well is it or is it not an adult? Answer that. If you say a baby is an adult then it should be able to get a driver's license since we generally give adults driver's license don't we.




a baby is not an adult does not make any sense. you are not supposed to make such a statement in the first place. a baby = a person that will be an adult in the future. the same baby(person) becomes an adult. so what is the point?

Driver's license does not signify adulthood. Teenagers get drivers license.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 8:03pm On Oct 09
raumdeuter:


If you ram a pregnant woman with a car, she survives but the baby dies what have you done?
abortion which is legal grin grin grin lawfully killing of a baby

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