wirinet:

You are using the correct term now, murder of a fetus and not murder of a baby.

Notice how you remove HUMAN from raumdeuter's words?

raumdeuter:


Exactly. I am with you on that. You want the lawful murder of human fetus. Some people think the murder of fetus should be unlawful

I think killing of mass shooters should be lawful, some states dont agree

lordreed, this is what I am talking about. They dehumanize the baby. this goes back to yesterday about our objective beliefs and we do things even if we know it is wrong. but that is a complex philosophical topic and I digress

budaatum:


I don't think you can ever hear me. Regardless, I'm not done with you yet.

I don't care that you lie about dump or anything else so much, but it does rankle me that you'd be here tarnishing people with your lies.

I mean, where's your dignity? Do you think people would sit with you in real life if you do with them what you do here?

Basilico, you have a skill. It is to dig stuff up. But your inability to measure with the brain in your head what you find before dumping it here just shows how stupidly braindead you are, and that's a pity. And worse is that it is actually disgustingly evil!

From my long held beliefs the excerpt of which I showed you ,can you prove anything wrong?

bemeruca:


I did not see the word abortion

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/fort-lauderdale-man-arrested-for-killing-unborn-baby-after-beating-pregnant-woman-with-baseball-bat/

the mother of the child does not have the power to decide when something is homicide or not.

Chatgpt.


Yes, there have been cases where people have attempted to induce an abortion without a woman's knowledge, although such actions are both illegal and unethical. These situations can involve the administration of substances or medications without the woman's consent, sometimes mixed into food or drink. In most jurisdictions, this would be classified as a serious crime, including charges like assault, poisoning, or murder (if the fetus is viable).

Cases like this are rare but have occurred in situations where one partner does not want the pregnancy to continue, and they take extreme, illegal measures to terminate it without the pregnant person's consent.

If you need more specific examples or information on legal aspects, I can provide further details.



You said:
What were they charged with in that casr
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
In cases where someone induces an abortion without a woman's knowledge or consent, the perpetrator can face multiple serious charges depending on the legal jurisdiction. Some of the typical charges include:

Assault: Administering any substance or causing harm to another person without their consent is often prosecuted as assault. This can range from aggravated assault to battery.

Poisoning: If a person uses drugs, chemicals, or any harmful substance to induce the abortion, they can be charged with poisoning or administering harmful substances.

Manslaughter or Murder: If the pregnancy was advanced and the fetus was viable, the person could be charged with manslaughter or even murder, depending on the circumstances and local laws.

Criminal Abortion: Many countries and states have specific laws regarding unauthorized or illegal abortions, and inducing an abortion without a woman's consent would likely fall under these statutes.

Endangerment of a Child or Unborn Child: In jurisdictions where a fetus is legally considered a person after a certain stage of pregnancy, charges of child endangerment or even feticide may apply.

For example, in the U.S., some cases have led to charges like attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, or unlawful termination of a pregnancy. In other countries, the charges might vary but would similarly focus on the harm caused to both the woman and the fetus.








How long is prison?

Is this common?



ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important

bemeruca:


I did not see the word abortion

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/fort-lauderdale-man-arrested-for-killing-unborn-baby-after-beating-pregnant-woman-with-baseball-bat/

the mother of the child does not have the power to decide when something is homicide or not.

On Friday, the Broward Sheriff's Office stated that homicide detectives had arrested 34-year-old Emmanuel Prevaly on the charge of killing an unborn child by injury to the mother.

I honestly don't understand what you guys are still arguing about. This is first and foremost a report by a reporter on the case. It is not a charge sheet detailing the crimes the criminal is being charged with. Then secondly, the report emphasised Killing of an unborn child . It never used the word murder or homicide. It never used the word baby. An unborn child was killed.

basilico:


Chatgpt.


Yes, there have been cases where people have attempted to induce an abortion without a woman's knowledge, although such actions are both illegal and unethical. These situations can involve the administration of substances or medications without the woman's consent, sometimes mixed into food or drink. In most jurisdictions, this would be classified as a serious crime, including charges like assault, poisoning, or murder (if the fetus is viable).

Cases like this are rare but have occurred in situations where one partner does not want the pregnancy to continue, and they take extreme, illegal measures to terminate it without the pregnant person's consent.

If you need more specific examples or information on legal aspects, I can provide further details.



You said:
What were they charged with in that casr
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
In cases where someone induces an abortion without a woman's knowledge or consent, the perpetrator can face multiple serious charges depending on the legal jurisdiction. Some of the typical charges include:

Assault: Administering any substance or causing harm to another person without their consent is often prosecuted as assault. This can range from aggravated assault to battery.

Poisoning: If a person uses drugs, chemicals, or any harmful substance to induce the abortion, they can be charged with poisoning or administering harmful substances.

Manslaughter or Murder: If the pregnancy was advanced and the fetus was viable, the person could be charged with manslaughter or even murder, depending on the circumstances and local laws.

Criminal Abortion: Many countries and states have specific laws regarding unauthorized or illegal abortions, and inducing an abortion without a woman's consent would likely fall under these statutes.

Endangerment of a Child or Unborn Child: In jurisdictions where a fetus is legally considered a person after a certain stage of pregnancy, charges of child endangerment or even feticide may apply.

For example, in the U.S., some cases have led to charges like attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, or unlawful termination of a pregnancy. In other countries, the charges might vary but would similarly focus on the harm caused to both the woman and the fetus.








How long is prison?

Is this common?



ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important

they know abortion is wrong which is why they dehumanize the unborn child

bemeruca:


a baby is not an adult does not make any sense. you are not supposed to make such a statement in the first place. a baby = a person that will be an adult in the future. the same baby(person) becomes an adult. so what is the point?

Driver's license does not signify adulthood. Teenagers get drivers license.

It makes total sense unless you are being intentionally obtuse. A baby is not an adult so we don't treat it like one.

wirinet:




I honestly don't understand what you guys are still arguing about. This is first and foremost a report by a reporter on the case. It is not a charge sheet detailing the crimes the criminal is being charged with. Then secondly, the report emphasised Killing of an unborn child . It never used the word murder or homicide. It never used the word baby. An unborn child was killed.

Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.
ba·by (noun)
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born:

Do you have to play semantics?

LordReed:


It makes total sense unless you are being intentionally obtuse. A baby is not an adult so we don't treat it like one.

how does it make sense? A baby cannot get a driver's license so it does not have rights? is there something I am missing here?

regardless if a baby is an adult or not... It is a person.

armyofone:
Trump complains about voting fraud. His supporter, Tina Peters was sentenced to 9 nine years for election interference.

The people that cry "wolf "🐺 are really the wolf.

Tina Peters had released a report of the audit. She is going for 9 years fir acting to stop fraud

https://tinapeters.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/CapitolTimesMagazine-Issue4.pdf

* The absence of secure hash algorithm (.sha) files for each digital ballot image makes the authenticity of each digital ballot image, and the ballotlevel record for those ballots, impossible to verify.

** The true total vote count in Mesa County, Colorado cannot be accurately calculated for the 2020 General Election or the 2021 Grand Junction Municipal Election from records in the databases of the county’s voting system

Putins Russia is better than America. There you know Putin will get 99% of the vote unlike Kamala's America where you go for 9 years for exposing 2020 electoral fraud


cc budaatum

bemeruca:


Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.
ba·by (noun)
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born:

Do you have to play semantics?

A fetus is not regarded as a person

A baby needs to be born to qualify as a baby.

I don't still understand what you are arguing about.

wirinet:

A fetus is not regarded as a person

A baby needs to be born to qualify as a baby.

I don't still understand what you are arguing about.

see the highlighted words. so much conflict.

bemeruca:


how does it make sense? A baby cannot get a driver's license so it does not have rights? is there something I am missing here?

regardless if a baby is an adult or not... It is a person.

Who said anything about rights? You keep jumping from pillar to post. A fetus is not a baby, a baby is not an adult. Where did I mention rights in that statement?

LordReed:


Who said anything about rights? You keep jumping from pillar to post. A fetus is not a baby, a baby is not an adult. Where did I mention rights in that statement?

a fetus is a human, a baby is a human, and an adult is a human.

basilico:


Tina Peters had released a report of the audit. She is going for 9 years fir acting to stop fraud

https://tinapeters.us/

* The absence of secure hash algorithm (.sha) files for each digital ballot image makes the authenticity of each digital ballot image, and the ballotlevel record for those ballots, impossible to verify.

** The true total vote count in Mesa County, Colorado cannot be accurately calculated for the 2020 General Election or the 2021 Grand Junction Municipal Election from records in the databases of the county’s voting system

Putins Russia is better than America. There you know Putin will get 99% of the vote unlike Kamala's America where you go for 9 years for exposing 2020 electoral fraud


cc budaatum

Secure Hash Algorithm kwa? You guys just throw around terms you have no clue about. Secure Hash Algorithm is the cryptographic function used in blockchain technology to secure the integrity of the blockchain. Bitcoin uses SHA-256 as its cryptographic function. Using blockchain technology for recording votes will be a very cumbersome affair.

bemeruca:


a fetus is a human, a baby is a human, and an adult is a human.

Did I say otherwise?

This was the question you asked: A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote? I answered you then you jumped to rights.

wirinet:


Secure Hash Algorithm kwa? You guys just throw around terms you have no clue about. Secure Hash Algorithm is the cryptographic function used in blockchain technology to secure the integrity of the blockchain. Bitcoin uses SHA-256 as its cryptographic function. Using blockchain technology for recording votes will be a very cumbersome affair.

https://tinapeters.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/CapitolTimesMagazine-Issue4.pdf

It's a forensic report , She have someone access to the dominion rigging machines and exposed the fraud of 2020 , Download the report and give us your thoughts, I just copied an excerpt

LordReed:


Did I say otherwise?

This was the question you asked: A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote? I answered you then you jumped to rights.

lol... I don't think you are following what you have been saying here.

Joe Biden blamed Obama for Putin invasion.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13937785/bob-woodward-joe-biden-ukrain.html

bemeruca:


lol... I don't think you are following what you have been saying here.

You are the one not following. I have to say something twice or thrice before it gets through to you.

Ijebos. NYT. Op ed literally calls Jack Smith is an asshole

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/opinion/jack-smith-trump-biden.html

https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1844063687788867633

The worst candidate ever

basilico:
Ijebos. NYT. Op ed literally calls Jack Smith is an asshole

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/opinion/jack-smith-trump-biden.html

Since I assume you've read it, why don't you list 2 things where you are in agreement with the author that makes Jack Smith an asshole.

LordReed:


You are the one not following. I have to say something twice or thrice before it gets through to you.

You think one can unlawfully kill a tick or lice when we are talking about homicide.

LordReed:


Yep. Go destroy ticks being used in a lab whether you won't be sued for every penny you own.

so you are all over the place. i don't understand how we got to driver's licenses too

basilico:
Whistleblower
.Secret Service denying govt auditors documents for a very curious reason.

More details here. https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/09/secret-service-blocked-independent-audit-of-trump-security-whistleblower-says/

IjeBos:


Since I assume you've read it, why don't you list 2 things where you are in agreement with the author that makes Jack Smith an asshole.

He broke the cardinal 90 day DOJ rule after expressing his greatest desire to have his sham trial before election.

basilico:
https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1844063687788867633

The worst candidate ever

You spend all day posting this drivel.
Assuming that she is really getting questions to ask from her aides, so what?

What the fux do you think aides do?
Or did you think Presidents and VP's were masters in everything and anything with exponential knowledge on every matter under the sun?
I expect my leaders to hire the best aides.
I expect those aides to give those leaders the best questions, answers and insights.
I expect that leader to listen to those aides so they can be as prepared, competent and get as much expertise and knowledge as possible and necessary.

You're a world class dumbass.

basilico:

Tina Peters had released a report of the audit.

And Judge Barrett, before sentencing, told her:

“You are no hero. You abused your position, and you’re a charlatan who used and is still using, your prior position in office to peddle a snake oil that’s been proven to be junk time and time again.”

And I'm not going to bother trying to convince you why I'd rather take Judge Barrett's word over the word of stupid lying nuisance you whom I would willingly pay to abort.

basilico:


He broke the cardinal 90 day DOJ rule after expressing his greatest desire to have his sham trial before election.

Quote the rule that he broke.

How FEMA got into illegal migrant business.

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/how-fema-got-migrant-business-and-who-covering-it

IjeBos:


Since I assume you've read it, why don't you list 2 things where you are in agreement with the author that makes Jack Smith an asshole.

Why would you assume he paid $2 a month to read what he wouldn't understand?

basilico:

He broke the cardinal 90 day DOJ rule after expressing his greatest desire to have his sham trial before election.

Basilico, show me your uproar when James Comey made an announcement on Clinton email probe 2 weeks before election.

I still believe if not for that she'd have beaten dump.

basilico:


Abortions should be looked at from a moral point of view. In most cases as was stated here yesterday both participants took part in the creation of a new life, with a very delirious ending

Hard to take any word from you when you support the rapist felon trump. You have no right to talk about morality.

LordReed:


You are the one not following. I have to say something twice or thrice before it gets through to you.

And when his error finally sinks in, he runs off for a while and returns with an unrelated topic until he puts his foot in his mouth again.

budaatum:
Should I define intrinsic after I asked you first and you haven't answered or before?

But don't bother answering now, bemeruca. Your right to my time has expired. And I can't be dealing with a person who can't differentiate a question from a statement.