Wow...this is big news. They have done really well

stagger:


Just talking anyhow.

It is obvious you are a member just like me and my family. But you allowed emotion over rule your sense of judgement.

Ask yourself, was it right to come up all these big grammar just to sugar coat injustice dine to these two faithful assistants. Why is the president of the commission not retiring?

These is pure dictatorship. I will not reply again. Peace be with you and I

The man has quickly "retired" the two younger pastors whom he considers competition. This will pave the way for his son

They don chop this one the final mugu, All the congregations he built in Abuja is gone, his own Children have nothing to inherit but Oyedepo's children is now in line to inherit everything.

Bandakisk:


https://x.com/therealchurchg1/status/1844420395618689419?t=duklF_AV_KdVj_ErzLTSSg&s=19

Lol

Black people find it so hard to start using their brains rather than having other people use it for them

Ferdinandu:
They don chop this one the final mugu, All the congregations he built in Abuja is gone, his own Children have nothing to inherit but Oyedepo's children is now in line to inherit everything.

Walai, you get bad mouth.

nedekid:

Succession plan.
If you know you know.

Na so. And he made noise those days that the church won't be family run. Make we dey see.

Very intelligent man

Sincerely wish the two retiring bishops well. I have listened to them a lot in the past. They are great individuals.
I believe the retirement is an opportunity for them to start their own outreaches, one from which no man will retire them from.
I feel it’s unfair, the retirement, but wot do I know? Am not a Christian!

SocialJustice:
If Abioye is out, who is the empire being handed to? I hope Oyedepo is not thinking of giving it to his wife because it will be the decline of the ministry.

Hehehe. He is retiring them because he himself is about to retire and handing over to any of them is not a possibility. Family business must continue.

truth of the matter will soon come out.....

Aksally:


It is obvious you are a member just like me and my family. But you allowed emotion over rule your sense of judgement.

Ask yourself, was it right to come up all these big grammar just to sugar coat injustice dine to these two faithful assistants. Why is the president of the commission not retiring?

These is pure dictatorship. I will not reply again. Peace be with you and I

I am not a member. I am a true Winner and a disciple. Served as unit head in a foreign mission as well. Was part of those who built one of the new churches that started in 2017 and now a blossoming branch. There are loads of guys who worked with us who gave their sweat and blood for the ministry.

Mike, who worked in a block industry for months to purchase equipment with his own money. Now an owner of several block industries and at least 2 houses. Oluwa, who furnished the whole church with her money. A retired Naija soldier who used to walk the streets evangelizing Tuesdays and Thursdays. There are many I cannot count, including those who rehabbed many Naija Yahoo boys and runs girls who were languishing in prison.

These are the real people who put in their effort to ensure that God's Word was heard through that young Winners satellite church with tangible proofs. Their lives have all changed for the better. These people are people I worked with and I salute them. When I left that country to Barbados, I cried. These are the real Winners, not those who claim they are members.

I have nothing to do with people who claim to be "members" but who have probably never even read The Mandate.

You are a rebel. Like Korah, you will perish except you repent. I have nothing to do with people like you or anyone else who is a winner by sticker, not a Winner at heart. Church is a mixed multitude. There are many MEMBERS, but very few DISCIPLES.

After dem don chop church money finish.

Foolish tithing thieves

Preachers of gospel retirering at 58 while the secular sector is even trying to jack up their retirement age to 65 and also when Jesus acknowledged the shortage of ministers when he said that " the harvest is plenty but the labourers are few, pray to God to send more labourers "
All in a bid to make someone the successor

only the founder will have a lifetime of service
You see , family business ni
So founder doesn't retire?
In the U.S various founders of different businesses and organisations do retire

FreeStuffsNG:
Congratulations to the two leaders. It's pentecostalism so they can go start their own ministry.

At the age of 60 abi?

sexiestharam:
This is not funny. I will miss Abioye so much. I don't understand this news.

Prosperity ministry na

Brain washed fellow

stagger:


I am not a member. I am a true Winner and a disciple. Served as unit head in a foreign mission as well. Was part of those who built one of the new churches that started in 2017 and now a blossoming branch. There are loads of guys who worked with us who gave their sweat and blood for the ministry.

Mike, who worked in a block industry for months to purchase equipment with his own money. Now an owner of several block industries and at least 2 houses. Oluwa, who furnished the whole church with her money. A retired Naija soldier who used to walk the streets evangelizing Tuesdays and Thursdays. There are many I cannot count, including those who rehabbed many Naija Yahoo boys and runs girls who were languishing in prison.

These are the real people who put in their effort to ensure that God's Word was heard through that young Winners satellite church with tangible proofs. Their lives have all changed for the better. These people are people I worked with and I salute them. When I left that country to Barbados, I cried. These are the real Winners, not those who claim they are members.

I have nothing to do with people who claim to be "members" but who have probably never even read The Mandate.

You are a rebel. Like Korah, you will perish except you repent. I have nothing to do with people like you or anyone else who is a winner by sticker, not a Winner at heart. Church is a mixed multitude. There are many MEMBERS, but very few DISCIPLES.

Objectivist04:
Preachers of gospel retirering at 58 while the secular sector is even trying to jack up their retirement age to 65 and also when Jesus acknowledged the shortage of ministers when he said that " the harvest is plenty but the labourers are few, pray to God to send more labourers "
All in a bid to make someone the successor

I do not expect you to understand, but I will try to explain. You can choose to throw what I have said away, fine. But I will say it.

This is the first set of generational change in Winners. The present crop of young ministers are in their 40s. It makes a lot of sense to still have the old guard (who are between 63 years and 70 years) to still be in the background providing guidance. If there is a misstep anywhere, there is room for correction. Someone like Bishop Abioye has been there from the beginning: since 1981. FORTY-FOUR YEARS. For goodness sake, do you want them still preaching at 90 years like Bishop Frederick KC Price, or at 80 years like Charles Stanley?

Many of the vice presidents of Living Faith, the ones in charge of local missions, foreign missions, WSF, etc, are all at the retirement age or close to it. By making the leadership now a maximum of 14 years in tenure, those who take over the leaders who are currently in their 40s, will be close to 58 (if not already at 58) by the time 14 years is over. Then a new set takes over. That is how you put a system in place to avoid the kind of succession chaos that almost took over Benson Idahosa's church, Synagogue when TB Joshua died, and SBJ Oschoffa's Celestial church when he died in 1985.

Look at the secular world where you have leaders like Paul Biya who is 90 years. No plan for succession. If he goes, who takes over? Who provides guidance to the younger rulers?

Look at Dangote. He is now 67 years. He has realized age is no longer on his side. He has brought in his daughter and she is now part of the team. He is still there providing guidance. When he is out of the scene totally, she would have found her feet totally.

True leaders put in place proper succession structures so there is no chaos when they are gone. Winners has a clearly spelt out process in the constitution of the church, THE MANDATE.

Sadly, many so-called members of the church have never even read it.

Ferdinandu:
They don chop this one the final mugu, All the congregations he built in Abuja is gone, his own Children have nothing to inherit but Oyedepo's children is now in line to inherit everything.

It seems you don't know both of the retired Bishops. These are Billionaires.

They have been blessed by people who they have impacted.

I can remember how Bishop Abioye singlehandedly bought an 18 million naira bus for a branch in Ondo state. Is that person a poor man?

Why calling P square ,you want spite the ibos with it, overhyped fellows ,with no raw manifestation of power of God. Only boast of material things

fortunez1:
Awesome men of God who are good role models and life coaches.
It's so good that they remained dedicated in service and believed in the vision of Papa David Oyedepo all through this year's without falling out .
Psquare should be humbled by this , everything should not about money , accolades etc but remaining faithful till the end is Key .
Couples should also remain dedicated to there marriage vows irrespective of issues , most especially when violence is involved.
Happy ending like this too shall dey make BRAIN

SUNNINO:
Brain washed fellow

Come and unwash it naaa...nonsense.

seanery:
After dem don chop church money finish.

Foolish tithing thieves

You pay your tithe there?

Aksally:
This is not Christian Ministry, this is business.
His son takes over, because he has less than 5 active health service years left

No doubt, Abioye will take more than half of both Goshen and Durumi members with him.
And watch for Abioye's ideology, it will distinct from the mother ministry's.

May we all be be free from men manipulation call religion

I love abioye teachings.... I will follow him closely

stagger:


I am not a member. I am a true Winner and a disciple. Served as unit head in a foreign mission as well. Was part of those who built one of the new churches that started in 2017 and now a blossoming branch. There are loads of guys who worked with us who gave their sweat and blood for the ministry.

Mike, who worked in a block industry for months to purchase equipment with his own money. Now an owner of several block industries and at least 2 houses. Oluwa, who furnished the whole church with her money. A retired Naija soldier who used to walk the streets evangelizing Tuesdays and Thursdays. There are many I cannot count, including those who rehabbed many Naija Yahoo boys and runs girls who were languishing in prison.

These are the real people who put in their effort to ensure that God's Word was heard through that young Winners satellite church with tangible proofs. Their lives have all changed for the better. These people are people I worked with and I salute them. When I left that country to Barbados, I cried. These are the real Winners, not those who claim they are members.

I have nothing to do with people who claim to be "members" but who have probably never even read The Mandate.

You are a rebel. Like Korah, you will perish except you repent. I have nothing to do with people like you or anyone else who is a winner by sticker, not a Winner at heart. Church is a mixed multitude. There are many MEMBERS, but very few DISCIPLES.

My Brother, if you are Christian, you will not be angry and threatenedme with death as punishment. Ask yourself, which do you believe, Mandate or Bible?

All those you have listed above succeeded not because they mopped the church floor but by grit and determination to succeed. Because for every 4 members you listed above , there are thousands of other members who couldn't make it pass 20k a month 'achievement' who not invested sweat and blood but all of themselves.

Brother continue to worship man.
Long time ago, I have conditioned myself to listen to men to comprehend and audit their motive.

I will never condem you for your stand, please don't threaten me with 'Perish' again. Peace.

Efuaye:
Ministers ought not to leave office in the manner that the civil service does..
They ought to continue serving until old age, unless there is a health concern..
Why is Bishop Oyedepo not retiring if you know what I mean?
Nlfpmd

According to the revised Mandate, the new age of retirement which was formerly 60 is now 58. Only the Founder will have the privilege of a lifetime of service after which every future leader of the Commission will serve for one term or a maximum of 2 terms of 7 years

Hope this is not lost on you. It's business, man.

Does it mean you are unable to differentiate btw retiring from Living Faith and retiring from Ministry in general?

Efuaye:
Ministers ought not to leave office in the manner that the civil service does..
They ought to continue serving until old age, unless there is a health concern..
Why is Bishop Oyedepo not retiring if you know what I mean?
Nlfpmd

This is old news nah, Bishop Abioye has resigned since nah, Bishop Oyedepo's is the one in charge of Goshen City parish ..

stagger:


Just talking anyhow. The rules are clear in the church's constitution known as the Mandate. Even Papa Oyedepo, having reached the age of 70 years, will exit the scene as the overall head. He will be in a supervisory role. Adeboye did same in Redeemed some years back. Many pastors who headed regional offices of the church like Titus Olayemi Oludairo have retired since.

The leadership is now tenured.

And you support the nonsense. Adepoye still preaches. That was forced by government. Give me one reason the constitution wants them to resign. What is the rationale?

Efuaye:
Ministers ought not to leave office in the manner that the civil service does..
They ought to continue serving until old age, unless there is a health concern..
Why is Bishop Oyedepo not retiring if you know what I mean?
Nlfpmd

The church was founded by Oyedepo bro and if you can build such religion stardom and retire for one opportunist to take over and ruins it then good luck to you.

Moses, Elijah etc never retired serving God. Serving God is a lifetime engagement.

Ulogwe1:


It seems you don't know both of the retired Bishops. These are Billionaires.

They have been blessed by people who they have impacted.

I can remember how Bishop Abioye singlehandedly bought an 18 million naira bus for a branch in Ondo state. Is that person a poor man?

This one self dey think like Easu