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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 11:37am
raumdeuter:
Harris is struggling with blue collar, struggling with Hispanic, struggling with Union workers

This is not a problem just with black men.

Let us assume what you wrote is true for a moment, we all have our strengths and weaknesses, Harris is doing better among women, and the younger voters, also Harris has powerful surrogates in Obama, Clinton, Biden and many others helping her now to win over these people.

How many powerful Surrogates do Trump have? Elon? Can you imagine him having the likes Bush, Romney and co campaigning for him right now?

I have no problem with some men having issues with Harris, but to think Trump is a solution for the economy they all give as excuse is what I don't get, especially with his proposed tariffs and many other unknown 'concept of a plan'.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:44am
LordReed:


Obama didn't say black men, he said men. Anybody catching feelings is most likely feeling the pinch of their low self esteem.

Did you actually watch the clip or you don't know what Brothers mean

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:45am
ObaIgwe1:


Let us assume what you wrote is true for a moment, we all have our strengths and weaknesses, Harris is doing better among women, and the younger voters, also Harris has powerful surrogates in Obama, Clinton, Biden and many others helping her now to win over these people.

How many powerful Surrogates do Trump have? Elon? Can you imagine him having the likes Bush, Romney and co campaigning for him right now?

I have no problem with some men having issues with Harris, but to think Trump is a solution for the economy they all give as excuse is what I don't get, especially with his proposed tariffs and many other unknown 'concept of a plan'.

This does not make any sense since Hillary Clinton has all that and lost. Since people have seen that Trump's economy and policies was and they prefer his economy to Biden-Harris, they are sure he will be tough on the border; they have seen Kamala unable to say anything meaningful.

You don't win elections by having a surrogate; you win if the people believe in you and like your policies.
Obama'sa first time was good; the second time,e he lost a lot of support from the black voters, though still high. Each year, black voters move away from democrats and since democrats are focusing on illegal migrants, people are rightly pissed.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:45am
raumdeuter:


Did you actually watch the clip or you don't know what Brothers mean

He lives in an alternate reality
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:46am
ObaIgwe1:


Let us assume what you wrote is true for a moment, we all have our strengths and weaknesses, Harris is doing better among women, and the younger voters, also Harris has powerful surrogates in Obama, Clinton, Biden and many others helping her now to win over these people.

How many powerful Surrogates do Trump have? Elon? Can you imagine him having the likes Bush, Romney and co campaigning for him right now?

I have no problem with some men having issues with Harris, but to think Trump is a solution for the economy they all give as excuse is what I don't get, especially with his proposed tariffs and many other unknown 'concept of a plan'.

Trump's surrogate are the American people feeling the pinch of the brutal economy. He doesn't need one elite who does not know the price of groceries to tell the people about the economic struggles of the past 3yrs

Trump ruled for 4yrs that's their evidence of work done which they can compare with the last 3yrs. When was the last time Biden Obama or Clintkn went to a store to buy milk like ordinary Americans

In Nigeria as you are complaining about economy wait make Buhari GEJ and Obasanjo tell you it's actually good and the inflation plus bad govt is just your imagination
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:53am
A lot of Nigerians are in the UK doing care jobs and Elon Musk just showcased his autonomous robots that are like i-robots in will smiths movie. These things could replace humans in care and house chores. For about 30k a piece

https://twitter.com/cb_doge/status/1844610934670590184?t=Tbxync6DK4k4IMFRiwtv4A&s=19

https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1844605299795083763?t=d_iQSqzmkOetABdHa53X0Q&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:53am
bemeruca:


This does not make any sense since Hillary Clinton has all that and lost. Since people have seen that Trump's economy and policies was and they prefer his economy to Biden-Harris, they are sure he will be tough on the border; they have seen Kamala unable to say anything meaningful.

You don't win elections by having a surrogate; you win if the people believe in you and like your policies.
Obama'sa first time was good; the second time,e he lost a lot of support from the black voters, though still high. Each year, black voters move away from democrats and since democrats are focusing on illegal migrants, people are rightly pissed.

Did any of the former Republican president support Trump in 2016? Or who were his surrogates when he got the highest electoral college votes in the last 20yrs and won states Republicans have never won in 30yrs

It's actually a lot of traditional Democrats that joined to vote him. No one needed surrogates to tell them about what they are feeling in their houses
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:57am
raumdeuter:


Did any of the former Republican president support Trump in 2016? Or who were his surrogates when he got the highest electoral college votes in the last 20yrs and won states Republicans have never won in 30yrs

It's actually a lot of traditional Democrats that joined to vote him. No one needed surrogates to tell them about what they are feeling in their houses

You think with all the actors, music starts, RINOs supporting her she should be leading trump with 30 points. But people who actually visit the groceries and people who recognise his policy the first time understands what they are seeing with Harris when compared. Despite the lawfare, the attack from the media, he is still a huge threat.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:04pm
IMAliyu2:


It seems you didn't take correction.
A population and birthrates only falls when a genocide has been successfully carried out.

I guess I'll repeat myself, The criteria used to determine a genocide are not based on it being successful. It's based on the intents and actions of the accused party, not their success.

Also another correction this conflict has been ongoing for a while, it didn't start with oct 7
Though Hamas being a group i would say fundamentally is built on genocidal intent towards jews aswell, just made things worse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
Read to understand who started what.

There is no intent oga. Over 1 year, 45k dead, including Hamas fighters in an urban guerilla warfare. What kind of genocide is that? For people who count Hamas fighters 16 and 17 years old as children.

This does not meet the criteria of genocide.
This is how they are shouting apartheid, yet Arab Israelis are happy in Israel; soldiers are dying to rescue them from Hamas. Israel blockade yet the fence in Egypt is the biggest fence I have ever seen.

You cannot keep hostages for over one year and then shout genocide. Israel is fighting to save their people and to prevent Hamas from attacking in the future.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:20pm
$10 billion for a wall = too expensive.

$450 billion for migrants = bargain.

Make it make sense.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:31pm
bemeruca:


You think with all the actors, music starts, RINOs supporting her she should be leading trump with 30 points. But people who actually visit the groceries and people who recognise his policy the first time understands what they are seeing with Harris when compared. Despite the lawfare, the attack from the media, he is still a huge threat.

Dem no dey tell blind man say rain dey fall.

When economy slaps you hard, be waiting for Obama and Clinton to tell you it's actually good going by some stats they were given. When Obaigwe1 complains about Tinubu, Buhari should come out and read him some stats to make him feel good

It must be desperate for them to be bringing all the big guns out
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:34pm
AmazonTopaz:


There is no intent of genocide. They are not getting killed because of any of the criterion that constitutes a genocide.

I have never seen it in history where a genocided group keep growing their population and at the same time continue to start wars they cannot win. I have never seen a genocided group reject peace but want war.

They are dying because that is what unfortunately happens in a war.

Israel is not targeting Palestinians because they intend to end their race, religion and nationality if they are doing so they are doing a very poor job at it. They would even start with the Palestinians living in Israel. We should use our heads please. Has Israel committed war crimes, yes I can agree but genocide is not one of them.


As to the criterion to genocide, IMAliyu2 wrote some good posts on that.
And I'll add that the UN believes that there are "reasonable grounds" to believe Israel is committing genocide.

But I'll take it from a different perspective.
What do you think Israel's long term objectives are?
And how does basically flattening Gaza fit into it?
In fact, what they are doing makes a 2 state solution even harder to accomplish. How can Israel can have a 2 state solution with a people after all that destruction and death? People have lost, mothers, fathers, siblings and children.
What are the goals of the settlers?

I think at a point we have to believe what some of Israeli politicians are saying and doing?
Look at some of the rhetoric
-Netanyahu brought up the Amalekites when referring to Palestine. He said You must remember what Amalek has done to you. The Amalekites were basically wiped out
-Their Defense minister said they were "fighting human animals".
-The Deputy Knesset speaker said on twitter their goal was "erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth"
-Their Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu said they should drop a Nuclear Bomb on Gaza that there “no uninvolved civilians

And lastly, just look at a map of Israel. Does it not look obvious what they are doing esp. in Gaza?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:36pm
raumdeuter:


Dem no dey tell blind man say rain dey fall.

When economy slaps you hard, be waiting for Obama and Clinton to tell you it's actually good going by some stats they were given. When Obaigwe1 complains about Tinubu, Buhari should come out and read him some stats to make him feel good

It must be desperate for them to be bringing all the big guns out

Ask him if any big shot, tuface, Burnaboy etc. Can convince him to vote Tinubu
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:38pm
IjeBos:



As to the criterion to genocide, IMAliyu2 wrote some good posts on that.
And I'll add that the UN believes that there are "reasonable grounds" to believe Israel is committing genocide.

But I'll take it from a different perspective.
What do you think Israel's long term objectives are?
And how does basically flattening Gaza fit into it?
In fact, what they are doing makes a 2 state solution even harder to accomplish. How can Israel can have a 2 state solution with a people after all that destruction and death? People have lost, mothers, fathers, siblings and children.
What are the goals of the settlers?

I think at a point we have to believe what some of Israeli politicians are saying and doing?
Look at some of the rhetoric
-Netanyahu brought up the Amalekites when referring to Palestine. He said You must remember what Amalek has done to you. The Amalekites were basically wiped out
-Their Defense minister said they were "fighting human animals".
-The Deputy Knesset speaker said on twitter their goal was "erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth"
-Their Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu said they should drop a Nuclear Bomb on Gaza that there “no uninvolved civilians

And lastly, just look at a map of Israel. Does it not look obvious what they are doing esp. in Gaza?

Debunked map shows desperation and your lack of understanding of the matter.

Palestine was a British mandate, the Arabs only embrace that name to have an identity. So when you see the map full called Palestine, it is the map of the Jews and the Arabs living there.

After the partition they waged war to kill off the Jews and take everything, the lost. In war, lands are taking just as how Russia and US took German lands. It was only given back when there is no threat. Same with Japan, Israel has given back lands to Egypt and Jordan ask yourself why.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:40pm
raumdeuter:


Trump's surrogate are the American people feeling the pinch of the brutal economy. He doesn't need one elite who does not know the price of groceries to tell the people about the economic struggles of the past 3yrs

Trump ruled for 4yrs that's their evidence of work done which they can compare with the last 3yrs. When was the last time Biden Obama or Clintkn went to a store to buy milk like ordinary Americans

In Nigeria as you are complaining about economy wait make Buhari GEJ and Obasanjo tell you it's actually good and the inflation plus bad govt is just your imagination

You write some of the most illiterate sounding posts. Whether it be economic illiteracy, political illiteracy or just legal illiteracy. You're just illiterate.

Groceries are more affordable now than in 2019. So why are prices still such a hot-button issue?
For more than two years now, higher prices have been pinching consumers’ wallets and testing their patience — but there’s at least one part of their monthly budget that has more breathing room these days: For the average U.S. worker, it now takes fewer hours of work to afford a week’s worth of groceries than it did five years ago, in August 2019.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/groceries-are-more-affordable-now-than-in-2019-so-why-are-people-still-so-mad-about-prices-74b5a6db

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:43pm
Obrigardo:


When every local teamsters and unions you can ever think of has endorsed her?

Oh look, it's maga cultists again with their INTERNAL DATA. Lol

All you maga cultists know of is polling polling polling lol, none of you are actually living in reality.

He has some horrendous political takes.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:45pm
IjeBos:


You write some of the most illiterate sounding posts. Whether it be economic illiteracy, political illiteracy or just legal illiteracy. You're just illiterate.


Take this graph and go show it to people on the streets who are complaining about their economic realities
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:46pm
IjeBos:


You write some of the most illiterate sounding posts. Whether it be economic illiteracy, political illiteracy or just legal illiteracy. You're just illiterate.


Groceries are getting more affordable; only an illiterate will post such a thing. During Trump, bread was 1 dollar; Harris Biden came, and it went up to 5dollar, and then they reduced it to 3 dollars. IjeBos: groceries are getting more affordable.

Harvard Chihuahua grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:46pm
Obrigardo:


When every local teamsters and unions you can ever think of has endorsed her?

Oh look, it's maga cultists again with their INTERNAL DATA. Lol

All you maga cultists know of is polling polling polling lol, none of you are actually living in reality.

That is actually the words of a black woman Nina Turner a former Congresswoman from Ohio

Maybe she's not living in the reality you are living in
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:48pm
bemeruca:


Groceries are getting more affordable; only an illiterate will post such a thing. During Trump, bread was 1 dollar; Harris Biden came, and it went up to 5dollar, and then they reduced it to 3 dollars. IjeBos: groceries are getting more affordable.

Harvard Chihuahua grin

Someone who is retarded. You only need to read 5 posts from him to know he has mental problems

The overwhelming concern for Americans is the economy maybe because they didn't attend the phantom Latin school he went to

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:52pm
raumdeuter:


88% of black people including Black men supported Hillary Clinton

Abi Hillary no be woman

This is a really silly post as most of your posts are.
You just throw out a number as it means something because it is looks high.
What was this number as in relation to Obama? It was lower, Obama has 93% support.
And what is this number in relation to Kamala. It will most likely be lower as Kamala will have more Black woman support.
And what does the overall support of Black people have to do with Black men and sexism?
Your post is illiterate.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:52pm
raumdeuter:


Someone who is retarded. You only need to read 5 posts from him to know he has mental problems

Things like this grin

IjeBos:


Motherfucka you've seen my pictures. I'm a good looking dude who takes care of my body, drives fast expensive cars, dresses well, travels the world and can (and occasionally do) bed a ton of bad, fVcking gorgeous women.

A 50 years old man 😂😂😂
His mate is sending his daughter to Ivy League IjeBos is on Nairaland telling us he sleeps with imaginary women when he is gay

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:57pm
raumdeuter:


Take this graph and go show it to people on the streets who are complaining about their economic realities

Yes, emotions always Trump facts.
That's why you are a black man voting for a racist party and I'm not.
You live in your emotions.

I showed you economic data showing that because of wage increase, prices are as affordable. You do your Captain Intellectual Dishonesty thing.

It's like someone from the 80's waking up now saying, wow bread used to be 25 cents, it's so unaffordable. Prices increase. The quesiton is have wages increase to offset them. The economic data says they have.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:00pm
IjeBos:


This is a really silly post as most of your posts are.
You just throw out a number as it means something because it is looks high.
What was this number as in relation to Obama? It was lower, Obama has 93% support.
And what is this number in relation to Kamala. It will most likely be lower as Kamala will have more Black woman support.
And what does the overall support of Black people have to do with Black men and sexism?
Your post is illiterate.


Obama was a better candidate than Hilary Biden and that reflects on his polls with black people

Kamala is on a different level of bad, which explains why she's struggling with Black men. On levels lower than what a white woman Hillary, a white man Biden and a Black man got

If Kamala is struggling it has nothing to do with her sex or color, she is just a bad candidate

We know you are retarded so it's no surprise that you can't reason properly

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:03pm
IjeBos:


Yes, emotions always Trump facts.
That's why you are a black man voting for a racist party and I'm not.
You live in your emotions.

I showed you economic data showing that because of wage increase, prices are as affordable. You do your Captain Intellectual Dishonesty thing.

It's like someone from the 80's waking up now saying, wow bread used to be 25 cents, it's so unaffordable. Prices increase. The quesiton is have wages increase to offset them. The economic data says they have.

You that believe you should vote someone because she has the same color and talking about emotions?

Every day you keep plunging new depths of extreme foolishness

Economy is the biggest concern in this election cycle. Obama a real Harvard graduate admitted yesterday admitted that the economy has not been good in the last 4yrs but you the serial failure is telling us everyone including Obama doesn't know what they are saying

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:04pm
Kamala will not kill me. Why is no one telling her to stop this crap?
She has gone batshit crazy with the bullshit.
She should keep appearing on TV the polls are good for trump each time she is on tv

Q: "I used to spend $250 a week on food and now it goes up to $350... What are you going to do to help the middle class so that the cost of living does not destroy us?"

Kamala: "I come from the working class. I'm never going to forget what I come from."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1844572829339037938?t=VZojaWYV0oGUM5TwUuTlsg&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 1:06pm
raumdeuter:


Obama is a better candidate than Hilary Biden and that reflects on his polls with black people

Kamala is on a different level of bad, which explains why she's struggling with Black men. On levels lower than what a white woman Hillary, a white man Biden and a Black man got

If Kamala is struggling it has nothing to do with her sex or color, she is just a bad candidate

We know you are retarded so it's no surprise that you can't reason properly

Yeah, because racism and sexism don't exist.
I volunteered for the Hillary campaign and saw the sexism first hand while in North Carolina. It was so shocking to me it left an immense impression.

You spend quite a bunch of time writing nonsensical illiterate sounding posts here. Spend some time reading and the stuff you write may sound more intelligent.
I'm not sure why anyone would prefer to sound as illiterate as you do here daily.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:08pm
bemeruca:
Kamala will not kill me. Why is no one telling her to stop this crap?
She has gone batshit crazy with the bullshit.

Q: "I used to spend $250 a week on food and now it goes up to $350... What are you going to do to help the middle class so that the cost of living does not destroy us?"

Kamala: "I come from the working class. I'm never going to forget what I come from."

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1844572829339037938?t=VZojaWYV0oGUM5TwUuTlsg&s=19

Let the insane Ijebos show the person his chart and tell them that cost of living is lower
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:10pm
IjeBos:


Yeah, because racism and sexism don't exist.
I volunteered for the Hillary campaign and saw the sexism first hand while in North Carolina. It was so shocking to me it left an immense impression.

You spend quite a bunch of time writing nonsensical illiterate sounding posts here. Spend some time reading and the stuff you write may sound more intelligent.
I'm not sure why anyone would prefer to sound as illiterate as you do here daily.

Black people are now racist to kamala, it stopped existing when Obama won.

You are a loser, the worst victim I have seen.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:11pm
raumdeuter:


Let the insane Ijebos show the person his chart and tell them that cost of living is lower

He is a idiot, a man who can't think for himself. He won't vote for kornel West when Biden was still on but he is talking about racism. What an idiot he is, a good looking idiot 😂😂
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:12pm
IjeBos:


Yeah, because racism and sexism don't exist.
I volunteered for the Hillary campaign and saw the sexism first hand while in North Carolina. It was so shocking to me it left an immense impression.

You spend quite a bunch of time writing nonsensical illiterate sounding posts here. Spend some time reading and the stuff you write may sound more intelligent.
I'm not sure why anyone would prefer to sound as illiterate as you do here daily.

It's always you that racism and sexism happens to. Everything wrong with America always happen to you. Maybe there is something about you that stands you out as retarded and tells people that you are a failure at first sight

You were the same fool who has never been a woman for 1 second arguing with biological females that they are experiencing sexism in the ways their names are called even when they told you it's not

I am sure you have experienced racism this morning already, you experience racism in your sleep in Lagos, you experience sexism in your bathroom

Just go and knock yourself out
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 1:13pm
raumdeuter:


You that believe you should vote someone because she has the same color and talking about emotions?

Every day you keep plunging new depths of extreme foolishness

Economy is the biggest concern in this election cycle. Obama a real Harvard graduate admitted yesterday admitted that the economy has not been good in the last 4yrs but you the serial failure is telling us everyone including Obama doesn't know what they are saying

Another Intellectualy dishonest diatribe.
I'm confidant you had a third tier education because only someone with such an education could write the logically deficient shit you write every time you write a post.
I am also confident you are mischaracterizing what Obama said as is common in the Intellectual Dishonest way you argue.
The truth is I think you're a fVking idiot. Too proud to want to learn and too stupid to know what he doesn't know.

It's no wonder you and Bemeruca sit around talking to each other. Weak men need the constant affirmation of other weak men.

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