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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Labadi69: 8:41pm On Oct 09
jedisco:
Rampant inflation plus currency collapse without economic growth is terrible.

Recently was speaking with someone who was advising I buy land as investment in certain areas. Person used their purchase years back as an example. At about 2009, they had bought a piece for 16 million. That piece is now about 75 million. Good profit he thought.

We sat down and crunched the numbers.
1. 16 million in 2009 at exchange of about 135 was about 118k usd
2. 75m today at an exchange of 1600 is about 46k usd. I.e 72k usd lost.

This is depressing but then we have not considered that the dollar itself has lost over 40% of its value in that time. So despite the land being worth more naira, there is no real term return (i.e after taking out inflation) but rather a significant loss.
Some might say why bother about usd- this would be true if our currency was stable. Today, the usd exchange determines the cost of most goods we buy.

What burst our brain was crunching the numbers to see if that money was put in a globally diversified index fund. Historically, despite volatility, these have yielded an average of 7-9% annually longterm. That 118k usd if invested in a global fund would be worth at least 374k usd today. That's how to track or beat inflation and how many westerners fund lavish retirements. I'm not even going into ease of sale e.t.c between both

Nigerians with Naija passport are not allowed by international brokers to invest in global ETFs. So they must work with what they have na.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by presiade(m): 9:03pm On Oct 09
Joyful365:


Dont the government ever offer these bonds in USD?

Like 80% of my asset is liquid and in USD and losing value too fast cos of inflation in America.

Is there no sure way to buy bonds in USD and earn this good interests, though the fund is not large....it's small but i trust USD more than NGN and I want it to grow instead of sitting idle in a bank that may crash at anytime.

I can offer you 5-6% APY in the US.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nakedman: 9:25pm On Oct 09
efismikoko:
This Zenith will not let me know if fgn saving bond has paid coupon now
No internet banking, no text, no email I tire joor

Got my fgn saving coupon today. Stanbic ibtc
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by efismikoko(m): 4:06am On Oct 10
Nakedman:


Got my fgn saving coupon today. Stanbic ibtc

Good I will get to zenith today to check
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Shalom428: 9:07am On Oct 10
Rate

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by efismikoko(m): 9:08am On Oct 10
Nakedman:


Got my fgn saving coupon today. Stanbic ibtc

Great they paid yesterday just got to zenith hope they are back to normal now
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by martin123: 9:29am On Oct 10
09-October Treasury Bills Auction Result

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IYGEAL(m): 5:10pm On Oct 10
Nakedman:


Got my fgn saving coupon today. Stanbic ibtc

I received too. Seems they have the payment issues fixed.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 3:00pm On Oct 11
Nakedman:


Got my fgn saving coupon today. Stanbic ibtc


Which particular Savings Bond is this? When was it issued because I expected coupon for FGS JUL 2027 that was issued July this year and the payment date is 10 Oct and today is 11 Oct but I have not received anything ooo.

If na that one please indicate make I know where my problem come from.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nakedman: 6:27pm On Oct 11
freeman67:



Which particular Savings Bond is this? When was it issued because I expected coupon for FGS JUL 2027 that was issued July this year and the payment date is 10 Oct and today is 11 Oct but I have not received anything ooo.

If na that one please indicate make I know where my problem come from.

APRIL 2027.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 6:39pm On Oct 11
Nakedman:


APRIL 2027.

Ok. We are still waiting for July 2027 sha.. The payment date is 10 Oct
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chudymario: 9:38pm On Oct 11
Have you checked your banking app yet? Cos I received same coupon yesterday, 10th.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Labadi69: 11:16pm On Oct 11
presiade:


I can offer you 5-6% APY in the US.

Scammer spotted angry
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by presiade(m): 12:38am On Oct 12
Labadi69:


Scammer spotted angry
You must have consumed some cheap inebriating sustenances.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Labadi69: 7:57am On Oct 12
presiade:


I can offer you 5-6% APY in the US.

Joyful365, beware of scammers like this hustler wey never chop belleful, but is offering you 5 to 6% in the US.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 11:19am On Oct 12
Labadi69:


Nigerians with Naija passport are not allowed by international brokers to invest in global ETFs. So they must work with what they have na.

I stumbled on global ETFs on Kuda which were hosted by Bamboo. They're marketed to Nigerians so it would be odd if Nigerian passport holders can't buy them. Another issue is the broker/platform fees for many of these passive funds. While in many places, you could pay no fee or very little platform fees, Nigerian firms tend to charge relatively high rates even above 1% of invested funds.

Also, it's unclear how robust the laws are regarding such platforms are I.e if investor funds are walled from the brokers
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 11:23am On Oct 12
Chudymario:
Have you checked your banking app yet? Cos I received same coupon yesterday, 10th.

Yes, I checked on 10th, yesterday 11th and today 12th morning. Nothing came.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by presiade(m): 4:47pm On Oct 12
Labadi69:


Joyful365, beware of scammers like this hustler wey never chop belleful, but is offering you 5 to 6% in the US.
I won’t waste my energy on a clown like you. When clowns 🤡 talk, we can sense them from a thousand miles away. Thank your stars that a faceless forum offers you a platform to vocalize your stupidity without real repercussions.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Blaqq2: 9:14pm On Oct 12
how do i get started with treasury bills
whens the next auction
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Labadi69: 10:28am On Oct 13
jedisco:


I stumbled on global ETFs on Kuda which were hosted by Bamboo. They're marketed to Nigerians so it would be odd if Nigerian passport holders can't buy them. Another issue is the broker/platform fees for many of these passive funds. While in many places, you could pay no fee or very little platform fees, Nigerian firms tend to charge relatively high rates even above 1% of invested funds.

Also, it's unclear how robust the laws are regarding such platforms are I.e if investor funds are walled from the brokers

I am talking about international brokers. I can never ever use those local brokers. To each his own sha.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ibrahim505(m): 12:32pm On Oct 13
Today marked the rentals payment date for the recent Sukuk bond.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 1:59pm On Oct 13
Ibrahim505:
Today marked the rentals payment date for the recent Sukuk bond.

The payment should be tomorrow. Today na weekend.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by efismikoko(m): 2:14pm On Oct 13
freeman67:


Yes, I checked on 10th, yesterday 11th and today 12th morning. Nothing came.

Boss hope you finally got this cos everyone I know got that 10th
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 3:37pm On Oct 13
Labadi69:


I am talking about international brokers. I can never ever use those local brokers. To each his own sha.

It boils down to how robust the local laws and SEC laws are in protecting investors funds. Ideally they should be ringfenced from the broker or investment firms funds. So if the later two go under, investors remain intact.

Eitherway, it's those same brokers people use to invest in the local stock market
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ibrahim505(m): 4:39pm On Oct 13
freeman67:


The payment should be tomorrow. Today na weekend.
OK.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by oludy: 9:18pm On Oct 13
Will there be SUKUK this year?

Ibrahim505:
Today marked the rentals payment date for the recent Sukuk bond.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 12:16pm On Oct 14
efismikoko:


Boss hope you finally got this cos everyone I know got that 10th

Not yet ooo. I have not seen it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 5:23pm On Oct 14
Sukuk??

13th October

Any update?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IamR: 5:39pm On Oct 14
RayRay06677:
Sukuk??

13th October

Any update?
Still expecting o

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ibrahim505(m): 6:08pm On Oct 14
oludy:
Will there be SUKUK this year?

Probably
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ibrahim505(m): 6:09pm On Oct 14
RayRay06677:
Sukuk??

13th October

Any update?
Still expecting
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 7:16pm On Oct 14
RayRay06677:
Sukuk??

13th October

Any update?

Nothing comes through yet, I just hope FG isn't going broke. I have all my life with them, i need to rethink ways foward.

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